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Manisha Koirala filmography edit

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Nominator(s): Cowlibob (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Manisha Koirala is a Nepalese actress who has received four Filmfare awards for her performances in Indian films. As always look forward to all the helpful comments on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 08:48, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Yashthepunisher (talk) 04:47, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Yashthepunisher
  • Few links needs to be fixed.
  • Bombay Riots --> Bombay riots
  • Alt text is missing from the second image.
  • Author is missing in ref 2.
  • Two years later, she made her Bollywood debut in Subhash Ghai's Saudagar which was a commercial success. A comma is missing after Saudagar.
  • However she followed this with appearances in.. Whould read better as: " However she followed this by appearing in a.."
  • For portraying the daughter of a mute and deaf couple in Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Khamoshi: The Musical (1996) she garnered a consecutive second Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actress.[2][6][8] Replace "portraying", since it wasn't a real-life character.
  • Redundant to mention "Ratnam" again in Dil Se..
  • A "and" is missing between Dil Ke Jharokhe Mein (1997) and Achanak (1998).
  • Company is a crime drama I guess.
  • The following year, she appeared in Escape from Taliban for which Koirala garnered the.. --> "which garnered her.."
  • How was Paisa Vasool received? Since it was her production debut.
  • "Tamilstar" looks like a dubious source. You can use this one instead.
  • Author is missing from Company review.

Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Yashthepunisher: Thanks for the comments. I think I have sorted them. Please suggest further points. Cowlibob (talk) 21:19, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Krimuk90
  • Would be nice to know what her role was in 1942: A Love Story since it marked a turnaround in her career.
  • Her role in Company would be useful.
  • Khela was quite a critically acclaimed production. Some details on it will be good.
  • Would be good to have an overview of how her roles were in significantly less notable films in the late-2000s.
  • Her role in Ek Choti Si Love Story was one of her most controversial, and a court case dragged on for months. Would be good to mention that.
  • A brief mention of her roles in Elektra and Bhoot Returns will be nice.
  • I would suggest mentioning I Am in the lead, as the film was one of her most acclaimed, as well as controversial.
  • Isn't this image much better than the one being used? Krimuk|90 (talk) 09:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Krimuk90: Thanks for the comments. I've tried to resolve them, added roles, replace image. Wasn't sure how to phrase that Koirala started to appear to less prominent films in the 2000s but gave it a go. Cowlibob (talk) 18:41, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

More comments:

  • "Koirala's career had a turnaround when she starred as the daughter of a revolutionary..." It's unclear what revolutionary? I see the source says revolutionary terrorist. Simply saying daughter of a terrorist should suffice here IMO.
  • "She made her television debut in 2000 as the co-host of game show..." ==> "...co-host of the game show..."
  • "The show did not perform well in terms of ratings and both Kher and Koirala were fired." ==> "The show's poor ratings led to both Kher and Koirala being fired"
  • "During the early to mid 2000s, Koirala's career continued to decline, and she appeared in less mainstream cinema" ==> "Koirala's career continued to decline during the early to mid 2000s, as she appeared in less mainstream films"
  • There's a slight mismatch in the notes column
1) Not sure why "Remake of Telugu film Matru Devo Bhava" is important to mention here.
2) The notes column for Indian does not say that it was simultaneously filmed in Tamil and Hindi, which makes it inconsistent with the other entries.
3) The "Remade in Hindi as Nayak" part of Mudhalvan seems redundant, as Koirala was not a part of the film.
4) The "tied with Rani Mukherji for Saathiya" is better as a footnote.
5) The note for Paisa Vasool should say "also producer" and not just "producer".
  • The caption for the image can be better. Say that it was an event for Bhoot Returns. Krimuk|90 (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Krimuk90: I think I've resolved these comments. Cowlibob (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

All good now in terms of prose. Some comments on sourcing:

  • What makes Filmibeat a reliable source?
  • The source for Pheri Bhetaula does not mention the film's director. Also for the same film, the role field is blank. Is it because we don't know her character's name or because it cannot be reliably sourced?
  • I am not too keen on the Diamond Pocket Books Pvt Ltd publisher, but I can understand if no alternates are available. I appreciate how difficult it is to source information from the 90s. Krimuk|90 (talk) 02:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Krimuk90: Replaced references. Removed Diamond Pocket Book source. I can't find a copy of the film anywhere or any info of character name. Probably the info exists in an offline Nepali source. Cowlibob (talk) 18:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from - Vivvt (Talk) 04:21, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments by Vivvt
  • Ref 114 is a dead link
  • I dont think Anupam Kher was a terrorist in 1942. We may need to find another source which mentions the correct info. He was kind of freedom fighter.
  • "during the Bombay riots" --> "during the 1992–93 Bombay riots"
  • "She also played a terrorist opposite" --> "She played a terrorist opposite"
  • "2002 crime drama Company she received her third Filmfare" need a comma after Company
  • "In 2012, she appeared in Varma's horror sequel"...mention full name for Varma
  • "After six months of treatment, Koirala was given the all clear." Sounds little weird. You may want to rephrase.
  • I see "Notes" column is mostly empty in the table. In that case, you can put all those in the footnotes section.
  • Spaces surrounding "/" are unnecessary in the roles column.
  • Notes b,c,d have exact same text. You can reuse them by clubbing the individual references.
  • Assuming you are linking first occurrence in the references, Rediff is linked for the second reference.
- Vivvt (Talk) 11:38, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Vivvt: Thanks for the comments. I've made the relevant fixes. I think the notes column should remain as if all those became footnotes it would force the reader to flick back and forth from the footnotes to the main table. Cowlibob (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
More comments
  • Any specific reason for using "sort" over "sortname"?
  • link Sushmita Banerjee
- Vivvt (Talk) 18:53, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Vivvt: Linked name. No particular reason, just found it easier to use and it has the same functionality. Cowlibob (talk) 21:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The sorting stuff was also discussed in one of your previous FLCs and related link here. Looks like you discontinued the practice. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Vivvt: Implemented sortname template. Cowlibob (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • All my comments have been resolved. So this nomination has my Support. - Vivvt (Talk) 18:42, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (talk)
Comments from Vensatry
  • WP:ALT suggests that we should avoid having the same details in caption and alt text.
  • Source needed for her nationality.
  • 'The show's poor ratings ...' Link ratings appropriately.
  • "In 2008, she played the eponymous role in the film Tulsi, a Hindi remake of the Telugu drama Matru Devo Bhava." First, the statement is unsourced. Second, the Telugu film itself seems to be a remake of a Malayalam film.
  • "She also starred in Rituparno Ghosh's Khela, where Koirala played a woman in a troubled marriage." Why use pronoun in the main clause and noun in the subordinate?
  • "Two years later, Koirala appeared as an adulterous wife in the Malayalam drama Elektra" The previous sentence doesn't mention the year of release of Khela.
  • 'Koirala' again in the next sentence.
    • The first six sentences of the final para has four Koiralas. —Vensatry (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Vensatry: Have cut it down to two. Cowlibob (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the sentence that talks about Bhoot Returns, a mention of the original could be made, probably as a FN.
  • In the table, 'TBA' should sort before 2016 (in descending order).
  • Her character name in Bombay is Shaila Banu.
  • I don't think every single scene of Indian was separately/simultaneously shot in Hindi. Hindustani was clearly a dubbed version.
  • Not very sure, but I think she did a cameo in Aalavandhan/Abhay.
  • Was it a dual role in Edavappathy? In that case, use a comma rather than a forward slash.
  • Her role in Taj Mahal: An Eternal Love Story: Jahan Ara or Jahanara Begum? The table link points to Jahan (a dab).

—Vensatry (talk) 11:17, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Vensatry: Made relevant fixes. Removed Tulsi. No need to mention Bhoot as she wasn't in the original. I think it was a cameo in Aalavandhan but I can't find source. Have clarified which are double roles etc. in footnotes. Cowlibob (talk) 12:30, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
  • Formatting: no issues found
  • Spotchecks: checked refs 36, 58, 83, 106 - no problems
  • Completeness: Nothing obviously missing

Passing source review, and so closing this nomination as passed. --PresN 15:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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