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The list was promoted 01:45, 2 February 2008.

List of members of the Hockey Hall of Fame

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I'm back with another list of hall of famers (my fourth such FLC), this time for the Hockey Hall of Fame. The page is fully sourced and (I think) well-formatted. The only drawback (in my opinion) is that the tables are a tad thin. The only thing I can think of that could be added is a years active column, but that's a tad sticky because the Hall of Fame website does not track that statistic for every player, and how do you define years active? Pro leagues only? And if that is the definition, do you include the AHL or Major-Junior leagues? Either way, any concerns brought forth will be addressed. -- Scorpion0422 19:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Lots of information about how the election process works, excellent images, including many of older inductees. Well presented article. Kaiser matias (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - There were some grammar errors I fixed in the text, but you might want to have a more experienced copy-editor go through them. I like the list, but it seems to me that the list is incomplete. At a minimum, I would say it should include years of a player's or official's career, as in List of members of the Baseball Hall of Fame by date of induction. For the players, it might also make sense to include teams they played with, though that may be difficult for players who moved around a lot. Geraldk (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think the years of a player's career should be included because that can lead to POV and how do you define active? Do you include the years they played in semi-pro, or European leagues? Hobey Baker never played professional hockey, what do you do for him? In the end, it's also really not vital information and has little to do with the hall itself. As well, the baseball Hall of Fame website includes a players active years, but the Hockey Hall of Fame site does not, so being able to compile such info would involve a lot of OR and use of sketchy sources. -- Scorpion0422 15:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • You're right that the years of a player's career aren't a necessity for a list of hall of fame members, so I've withdrawn the objection. However, I think in general it's better to err on the side of too much information than too little. And for a reader of this list, it may be useful to have more of this information in one place. Say they're looking for hall of fame players whose careers included the 1970's? Or, more likely, what if they're a person trying to find out which Toronto Maple Leafs players were accepted into the Hall of Fame? I can't think off the top of my head where this would go in WP:WIAFL, but I think it's important for a featured list to be broadly useful. Geraldk (talk) 03:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I too would like a little more context as to why some of these folks were inducted. A notes column could include what teams they played for or helped build, or in the case of the purely amateur ones, point out what was so impressive about their amateur career that led them to being inducted, etc. Still, I give a weak support to what exists now, the intro is very good, and each section has the right amount of context. But I really, really would like a notes column showing the achievements that led them either to being inducted (if such explicit information is available), or more general information of their careers like their teams, any records they held, for referees their years and leagues of service, etc. --Golbez (talk) 22:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would like to see the nationalities column added. It is useful to know whether a player is American/Canadian. OR maybe add a flag next to the names. As Golbez said, teams played for would be a plus, as well.--Crzycheetah 23:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • There have been several debates in the past over the inclusion of Flags and its a tricky issue. The Hall of Fame website has a list of players who weren't born in Canada (and that's less than 20 people) like Stan Mikita who was born in Slovakia but played for Canada on several occasions. As for the inclusion of teams, I'm somewhat opposed to that too as many of these players played for several teams and which ones do you list? NHL only? Pro teams only? Unlike the Baseball Hall of Fame, the HHOF doesn't recognize players as a member of certain teams, so it's a lot harder to do. -- Scorpion0422 14:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, well. I give a weak support, as well. I am not too impressed by this list, but I can't offer much to make it better.--Crzycheetah 00:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great list although like other's said I wish there was something else to provide. But if there isn't anything to add, then you cant do anything. Good work, I liked all the pics! – Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 08:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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