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List of Zambian parliamentary constituencies

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Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 4th nomination in the constituency series. I've improved the lead, added a history section, and converted the list into a table with more information than was present before. I've modelled it on similar FLs like Tripura and Mizoram. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • How are the constituencies formed? Why is there an enormous difference in size among them? Does Zambia have governance and representation issues because of this severe malapportionment?
  • Would it make sense to list the Districts of Zambia covered in addition to the Province they're in?
  • Why does Template:Zambian constituencies have a Sinjembela listed?
  • I know this is a straightforward topic that might not have a ton of information, but the lead is still quite short and the table is just from a single source. Is there anything else that can be added to make this the best of Wikipedia? Reywas92Talk 15:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Reywas92, question: I am slightly new, but would that make it fail WP:CFORK? sorry if this is stupid 48JCL public (talk) 19:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure it's a cfork, but List of members of the National Assembly of Zambia (2021–2026) already has the names of constituencies, along with the incumbents, so there's some duplication there. This should have enough info to justify a separate page and a gold star. Reywas92Talk 14:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Formation of constituencies: Added info to the lead.
    • I've added a district column to the table.
    • Sinjembela is a former constituency. Since it would pass NGEO, I didn't remove it from the template, but moved it to its own section.
    • I have an explanation for the disparity in constituencies, but it would be WP:OR, so I'm not adding it to the article. I'll provide my explanation here for folks who might be interested: The rule is that a constituency cannot cover more than a district. This wouldn't be a problem if there were 4 or 5 times the number of constituencies as districts, but Zambia has 116 districts and 156 constituencies. The highly populated districts cannot be divided into a lot of constituencies because of this. This was interesting to find out, so thanks for asking the question. I tried to look for studies about the disparity in constituency size, but came up with nothing, unfortunately.
    • If there is any other information that you or someone else can think of that is relevant to the list, I'm happy to do the research and add to the lead. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Reywas92: Forgot to ping. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive by comments

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Thanks for checking. Fixed all of these. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nitro Absynthe: Forgot to ping. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Lapadite

@Lapadite: Done both. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Staraction's comments

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  • "The seat of the assembly is at the capital of the country, Lusaka and" -> "The seat of the assembly is at the capital of the country, Lusaka, and"
  • "the Vice President, the Speaker and one of the deputy speakers" -> "the Vice President, the Speaker, and one of the deputy speakers" (this one is optional considering MOS:OXFORD
  • Perhaps add alt text to the seal of Zambia within the Politics of Zambia template?
  • Add caption to infobox image - what is that building?
  • Link first-past-the-post, President in body

That's it from me. Nice work, @MPGuy2824 Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Staraction: Fixed all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Well done. Staraction (talk | contribs) 12:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonzo_fan2007 comments

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  • I know this is a pain, but the information in the "Name" column being centered while the "Province" and "District" columns are left-align isn't consistent. Choose one or the other.
  • I feel like the image order is weird. I would recommend the Infobox and {{Politics of Zambia}} be place d consecutively in the lead, and then move the Location of Zambia and the Constituencies image to the "List" section
  • On that topic, "List" seems like a weird section title. Why not just "Constituencies"?
  • The National Assembly of Zambia is the unicameral legislature of Zambia., the duplication of "Zambia" sounds bad. I think this is fine: The National Assembly is the unicameral legislature of Zambia.
  • On that note, it would be nice to have some context for the country. Something like: The National Assembly is the unicameral legislature of Zambia, a landlocked country at the crossroads of Central, Southern and East Africa. (note, that text is from Zambia).
  • Of them, 156 are elected I think Of those is the appropriate term here.
  • every census, by the comma isn't needed.

That's what I got, nice work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: Fixed all. The country's locator map was added to give some geographical context to the reader, but I think duplication in the text is useful. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support nice work! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Excellent work.

  • Zambia National Assembly Building.jpg has an appropriate CC tag and review.
  • Coat of arms of Zambia.svg has an appropriate PD tag.
  • Location Zambia AU Africa.svg has an appropriate PD tag. Following the comments above from Gonzo_fan2007, would be it be possible to locate this near the mention of Zambia's location?
  • Zambian National Assembly constituencies.svg has an appropriate PD tag. The image lacks any key to show which constituency is which. If that would be too complicated, would be separate maps for each province showing the locations of the constituencies be an alternative?
  • All images have ALT text (as noted by Nitro Absynthe above).
  • Are there appropriate thumbnail images that could be used in the table as it is quite stark? simongraham (talk) 11:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've moved the Zambia locator map to just below the Infobox. Also moved the "Politics of Zambia" sidebar template to a much lower section of the page.
  • The image lacks any key to show which constituency is which. I'll see if there is enough information to correctly add numbering to the image. Might take a few days.
  • Are there appropriate thumbnail images that could be used in the table as it is quite stark? I did a cursory search for a few constituencies and there aren't images that would represent the constituency well. Assuming that the above numbering works out, I could use that to create a new image that would just show only the constituencies of a particular state and add that to the table. Doing the same thing for each state would reduce the starkness of the table. I'll ping you when these are done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Simongraham: I've added numbers to the constituency map and the table. This should work as a key. See if you approve of my other idea of using state-wise subsets of this map to show in the table. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MPGuy2824: That sounds reasonable to me. It would be interesting to see if this also resolves another issue. Currently, I feel that the map may be too small for many screens, so it may be helpful, given the constraints of MOS:IMGSIZE, to make it larger. simongraham (talk) 18:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "The National Assembly is the unicameral legislature of Zambia, a landlocked country at the crossroads of Central, Southern and East Africa. The seat of the assembly is at the capital of the country, Lusaka, and it is presided over by a Speaker and two deputy Speakers. The term of the assembly is five years, unless it is dissolved earlier." - none of this is sourced
  • First three columns of the table are unsourced i.e. what's the source that the 156 constituency names listed here are the 156 constituencies that exist and what's the source that each is in the province and district listed?
  • Ordering the table by district seems a bit odd, would it not make more sense to order by constituency? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude:
    • First paragraph of lead was unsourced - I've added a ref and reused refs from elsewhere. I've also tweaked the prose a bit. Please point out any issues that you notice.
    • First three columns of the table are unsourced I've moved refs to the table caption to make it clear that they cover the whole table, and not just the number of electors column.
    • Ordering the table by district seems a bit odd - This is how the election commission orders them. Per simongraham's comment above, I've added the numbering to the map and the table. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 01:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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