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Nominator(s): The Kip (contribs) 08:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another VGK FL candidacy, this one being inspired by List of Detroit Red Wings general managers. Dramatically expanded the lead's prose and added a key - the existing table seemed good to go. Won't be nominating any more until this and the players one are complete, per the consensus. The Kip (contribs) 08:58, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • Edmonton Oilers,[9][10], with - There's an extra comma there.
  • Is note b) really needed? I mean, that's not the case with any of the general managers on this list, so I think we could do without it.
  • All in all, I don't think the key is needed at all. If we agree on note b) not being needed, you could do with {{abbr}} for No. = Number and Ref(s) = References, given that the is not used either.

That's what I saw. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 09:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Alavense I've opted to hide the key for now - by default, it'll be used in the future, but I see the idea that it's redundant for now. Added the templates as well. The Kip (contribs) 19:46, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed the extra comma myself. Support. Alavense (talk) 07:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by OlifanofmrTennant

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  • "Las Vegas, Nevada" is linked in the lead but piped as Las Vegas. WP:NOTBROKEN says you should simply use the "Las Vegas, Nevada" redirect.
  • Pacific Division is linked twice in the lead
  • "Ultimately, however, McCrimmon led the Golden Knights" both Ultimately and however seems redundant
  • Not doing a full source review but just noting that citations appear inconsistant in linking to publishers.

All I saw Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 15:47, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant
  • Split the LV link into Las Vegas and Nevada.
  • Fixed the middle two
  • Fixed the publisher/work links such that they're only wikilinked their first appearance in the article.
The Kip (contribs) 19:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first to are good, the third is the problem. They have to be linked every time or never. Also just spotted that in the table "Ref(s)" should just be "Ref." as there is only one reference per row. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha, I'll go ahead and link all that can be linked. The Kip (contribs) 07:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 14:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concerns about length

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I'm concerned with the length of this list, as it only has two entries. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:44, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I unfortunately can't really fix that - I don't have the connections to get McCrimmon fired 😂
In all seriousness, though - is there a minimum required length/number of entries? The Kip (contribs) 19:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the list should be fine, the list will presumably keep growing in length Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also concerned with the length. If it's just two entries, why make it a list article, and not just a regular article? I don't think a list with this few entries has ever been promoted before. Mattximus (talk) 15:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattximus Two points on this:
  • The list is presumed to continually grow in the future; barring something unexpected (i.e. a sudden folding of the team or league), there will be more GMs. It’s not going to be stable at two forever.
  • I feel like a minimum length penalizes organizational stability to a degree - for instance, by that line it’d be difficult to turn the Nashville Predators’ GM list into a FL given that David Poile was in charge for 20+ years and they’ve only had two GMs as a result, while it’d be easier to do so for the Columbus Blue Jackets, who’ve been organizationally unstable and as such have had six permanent/interim GMs in roughly the same span.
The Kip (contribs) 17:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment

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I'd just like to point out that now that that edit has been made about Las Vegas and Nevada, it doesn't comply with MOS:GEOLINK, so that should be sorted. Alavense (talk) 07:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since its a minor MOS change I fixed myself Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]