Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Coachella Valley Firebirds players/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]
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List of Coachella Valley Firebirds players (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): XR228 (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keeping up with my trend of getting ice hockey lists to FL, this time, I'm doing Coachella Valley Firebirds players. I think this list meets all the criteria. Thanks. XR228 (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
edit- I would change "54 players, 8 goaltenders and 46 skaters (forwards and defenseman), have worn a Firebirds jersey in at least one regular season game" to "54 players have worn a Firebirds jersey in at least one regular season game, comprising 8 goaltenders and 46 skaters (forwards and defenseman)," to remove any potential confusion that it's 54+8+46 rather than 54=8+46
- "The Firebirds have yet to win the Calder Cup." => "The Firebirds have yet to win the Calder Cup, the trophy awarded to the AHL champions."
- "who is "the only team members" - not grammatically correct
- That's it, I think -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:29, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: I have made the changes. XR228 (talk) 23:26, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 22:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @PresN: I have made the changes. XR228 (talk) 04:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Except for Name, Nat, Seasons and Notes, the other column headers don't need rowspans at all. Please remove them
- Each row has a bgcolor set to white, which can be removed.
- There is only one note across both tables. You can make it into a normal footnote and eliminate the column completely. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:07, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: I have made the changes. I do feel that keeping the notes column is necessary, because as the Firebirds play more games, there will be more award winners, captains, and (hopefully) Calder Cup winners on the team. XR228 (talk) 16:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I assume that the source for the tables is hockeydb.com. You can make it clearer by adding a citation to each table's caption.
- Every note will require a ref.
- Support in advance since I trust that you'll get these done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:38, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: I have made the changes. If you are able, could you look at my other FL nom? It's been like 23 days since someone commented on it. XR228 (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Since that FLC has two prose supports and seems old enough, I added it to Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/backlog/items. Somebody should come along to get that done in a few days. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. XR228 (talk) 22:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Since that FLC has two prose supports and seems old enough, I added it to Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/backlog/items. Somebody should come along to get that done in a few days. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: I have made the changes. If you are able, could you look at my other FL nom? It's been like 23 days since someone commented on it. XR228 (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824: I have made the changes. I do feel that keeping the notes column is necessary, because as the Firebirds play more games, there will be more award winners, captains, and (hopefully) Calder Cup winners on the team. XR228 (talk) 16:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Alavense
edit- Two consecutive sentences begin with Since their creation, which reads a bit odd.
- For someone (like myself) who knows nothing about how these leagues work, the fact that they have affiliated with the National Hockey League (NHL)'s Seattle Kraken doesn't mean much if it isn't explained. I think.
- Nat should be Nat. and Pos should be Pos.. Besides, please consider using {{abbr}} for those and also the others.
- There are no notes in the first table, so you can get rid of that empty column.
- All in all, I think the lede is a bit short and says nothing about statistics, other than how many players have worn the jersey. Could something be added?
That's what I saw, XR228. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 09:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Alavense: I have made the changes. XR228 (talk) 16:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I would use {{abbr}} as previously stated, but I will support anyway. Alavense (talk) 07:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Source review – All of the references are reliable and well-formatted. The link-checker tool indicated that a few of the links might have been dead, but I checked a couple of them manually and found no issues. Must have been some false positives there. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:24, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. XR228 (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008 hold up is this a support or not? XR228 (talk) 03:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No, it's just my check of the sources. I'd be conflicted out of closing the FLC down the line if I support, so I'll refrain from a full review. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok. XR228 (talk) 00:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008: So far there have been three normal reviews and your source review. Does this mean the review is over? This is my fourth FL nom and I still don't get how it works lol. XR228 (talk) 00:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok. XR228 (talk) 00:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No, it's just my check of the sources. I'd be conflicted out of closing the FLC down the line if I support, so I'll refrain from a full review. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008 hold up is this a support or not? XR228 (talk) 03:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. XR228 (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's over whenever a delegate gets to it and thinks it's ready... which is now: promoting! --PresN 22:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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