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The article was promoted by GrahamColm 17:42, 11 November 2012 [1].

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Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another Australian general of World War II. Stanley Savige is one of the more controversial. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:46, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources and images - spotchecks not done

  • File:Savige.jpg: source link is broken
    • Updated. However, because the FAC one-at-a-time rule guarantees that articles take years to come up, so we should not attempt to repair link rot. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:KandaSurrender.jpg: source link returns error
    • That's not true. In the box below I noted that I uploaded a new copy from the AWM, and that link was not broken. The original has not moved far in fact. I've updated the page on Commons, but the one-at-a-time rule says that link rot is acceptable. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:11, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • FN1: page?
  • FN8: what kind of source is this?
  • FN65, 93: page?
  • FN95: publisher?
  • Dexter: formatting
  • Hetherington: formatting

Nikkimaria (talk) 03:03, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support

  • Reviewed and supported this for MilHist A-Class but it was so long ago that I've treated it here as though I'd never reviewed it, and gone through it again top to bottom making a few edits along the way -- happy with prose, structure, detail, refs, and images.
    • The article dates from 2009. I have 18 articles that could be FAC noms, but I only get six FACs per year due to the one-at-a-time rule. So it takes about three years for one to come up to FAC. This one only made it in 2012 because I was considered it for a good topic. That's why I wanted to replace FAC with a MILHIST A+ review, where articles could be properly reviewed without going through FAC. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • One minor thing, the quote box from Blamey reads in part: "Tell me what when he has let me down in this war!" -- is "what" actually in the quote or is that a typo?
    • Typo. Corrected. Thanks for your review! Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I made a few minor tweaks, but not a lot stood out to me. I believe that this article meets the FA criteria. I have only a couple of minor points below:

  • the duplicate link checker identifies a few examples of overlink: Military Cross, Australian Army Cadets, Charles Bean, John Gellibrand, Edmund Herring, I Corps (Australia), Robert Menzies;
  • should OCLC numbers be added for the works without ISBNs?
  • you might consider adding alt text to the images, although I don't believe it to be a requirement

[2] AustralianRupert (talk) 02:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed comments by Crisco 1492 moved to talk

  • What's with the linking of countries?
    • I linked "Assyria" because I didn't think people knew where it was. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:44, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Egypt? Iran? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • Nope. From the Assyria article: Today that ancient territory is part of several nations; the north of Iraq, part of southeast Turkey and northeast Syria. Hawkeye7 (talk) 12:21, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • I meant "why are Egypt and Iran [should have been Iraq] linked? Japan too." Per WP:OVERLINK those are a bit of overkill. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support This is a very good quality article which meets the FA criteria. I have only the following minor comments:

  • "Later transferring to the Western Front" - this suggests that he had some choice in where he was sent, which I doubt was the case
  • "He was returned to Australia" - 'was returned to Australia' is normally applied to soldiers sent home in disgrace, which doesn't seem to be the case here
  • The lead should note Savige's post-WW2 activities
  • "In 1930, he ran unsuccessfully for the Electoral district of Caulfield on the Nationalist Party of Australia ticket" - you should probably specify that this was an election for the Victorian state parliament

Nick-D (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC) Thanks for your review! Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support with minor quibbles. Have been watching this develop, but two things for now neither of which are within a stones throw of an oppose. I dont like the two sentance forst para. I also dont like "——" in the refs, it makes me all confused. Thre are a few other small things that I can fix myself. Ceoil (talk) 15:21, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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