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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 27 February 2023 [1].

Burnley F.C. in international football edit

Nominator(s): Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 08:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Burnley have played several seasons in international football, as recently as in 2018. The article includes early overseas tours (including to Madagascar and Mauritius), the battle of Naples, and a glamorous tie v Celtic in the Anglo-Scottish Cup which turned out not to be so charming. This article passed the GA process two and a half years ago. Since then, I’ve trimmed it down a bit here and there, but expanded the overseas tours and minor international competitions sections. All comments will be appreciated! Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 08:47, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments edit

  • "Burnley's following campaign in a European club competition came six years later" => "Burnley's next campaign in a European club competition came six years later"
  • "involving sides from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland" => "involving sides from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland" (in two places)
  • "Burnley later competed in Anglo-Scottish Cup" => "Burnley later competed in the Anglo-Scottish Cup"
  • "Scottish Cup winner Celtic also made a trip to the continent" => "Scottish Cup winners Celtic also made a trip to the continent"
  • "Burnley was the third English club" => "Burnley were the third English club"
  • "with the match played over one leg" - I would suggest "with the final played as a single match" would be better (in two places)
  • "The team defeated Preston North End (3–2) and Blackpool (3–1), and drew with Blackburn Rovers (1–1)" - does this relate to 1978-79? It's unclear. If so, I would start with "In that season"
  • "including a 3–1 win in the Old Firm" => "including a 3–1 win in the Old Firm match"
  • Think that's all I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support edit

I couldn't really see anything that Chris has missed, so happy to support. Might be in Europe again next season... Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • Jimfbleak With this incredible team and VK at the helm, we might be on a cheeky cup run, continuing against Ipswich in a few hours:) Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 23:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SC edit

Lead
  • Although I don't normally recommend linking countries, I make an exception for territories that no longer exist. Personally I'd link West German, as there will be some people who aren't aware there was once a split, but I leave it up to you.
1960–61 European Cup
  • "Burnley were the third": you can use "they" here. (There is a lot of use of the word "Burnley" in the article – and in a couple of places, I think you can change it out for "they", without any confusion as to subject of the sentence.)
1966–67 Fairs Cup
  • "Fairs Cup committee,[31] who were": "which was", rather than "who were"
  • "since the Inter-Cities": should really be "as the Inter-Cities"
  • "However": although not always wrong to have at the start of the sentence, it does jar. You could just go with "FIFA views the competition as a major honour"
  • "the first leg being held in Frankfurt": -> "the first leg was held in Frankfurt"?

That's the lot from me – an enjoyable read. SchroCat (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: Thank you very much for your comments! I think I've addressed your points. Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 23:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Excellent work. I had no idea about some of the earlier successes, so it was an interesting read. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:03, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Image review edit

Licence, use and ALT text of the images seem fine to me. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – pass edit

I'll start working through this now. Harrias (he/him) • talk 13:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ref #26, remove "EFL Official Website" from the start of the title – it isn't present in the source.
  • Otherwise, all citations are consistently formatted in an appropriate style.
  • What makes Football Club History Database a reliable source?
  • Otherwise, all sources used appear to be to high-quality, reliable sources.
  • Do two other histories of the club by Tim Quelch have anything more to add? From Orient to the Emirates: The Plucky Rise of Burnley FC and Northern Exposure: A Fifty-Year Diary of Watching Burnley FC?
  • I'm a bit concerned about the heavy reliance on Ray Simpson's book, which was published by Burnley themselves, making it a primary source. It is generally used to source factual material, rather than interpretation, but for a Featured article, I would prefer if we could source more of this information to secondary sources. One bit that I'm not comfortable with it sourcing:
    • "and damaged Burnley's fortunes." Ref #28.
  • Spotchecks for copyvio, close para-phrasing, source-text integrity:
    • Ref #13, all okay.
    • Ref #16, all okay.
    • Ref #38, all okay.
    • Ref #50, all okay.
    • Ref #62, all okay.

Nothing much wrong with this other than the possible overreliance on the Simpson book. I'll watch this page, but feel free to ping me. Harrias (he/him) • talk 14:36, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: thank you for the review, I appreciate it. I fixed ref 26 and replaced the Football Club History Database source. Quelch's From Orient to the Emirates begins in the mid-1970s, and was released a year before us getting into Europe, so I can unfortunately not use that book (I don't own his latter book). I also cut back the use of Simpson's book a bit, hopefully to your satisfaction (and replaced ref 28). Eem dik doun in toene (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, looks good to me now, nice work. Harrias (he/him) • talk 15:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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