Zagurzem

Sonic 4 image dispute

Since you refuse to listen to my edit summaries, or my suggestion to start a discussion on it, I have started one for you. Please read and comment on your stance here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_4#Infobox_image_dispute

Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 23:59, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Sonic 4 content dispute

Hey again. Looks like we're arguing about Sonic 4 again. I really think it would benefit you if you read up on some of Wikipedia's major policies. You're not just writing random stuff on a Sonic fansite or blogs. Here on Wikipedia, you need things like:

• Reliable sources backing up what you say.
• WP:BURDEN - If something is being challenged, you need to find a source to back it up. As you are the one who wants to include it, it is your responsibility to provide a source.
• Please avoid original research. You can't just say things like if you look at the episode II world map, there is a big lake that resembles Never Lake. Look it up on google images. You need to go find a source directly proving what you're saying.

In short, if you start following these policies more-so, you'll see that your contribution will stick a lot more often. If you got questions, feel free to bring it up on my talk page, or the article talk page. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 01:53, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Also, you'll note that it's not just me who's undoing all of your work. For instance, your edit at Harold Camping was instantly undone because you didn't provide a source. Sergecross73 msg me 01:56, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Zagurzem: OK, let me get things straightened out here (again, LOL), the reason why I said Little Planet is returning over Never Lake is because in both the original (1993) and rereleased (2011) Sonic CD instructions, it said that every year the planet appears over Never Lake. I would assume that in Sonic 4, it would appear over that same lake again. The main reason Sega rereleased Sonic CD a few months ago was because plotwise, Episode II is a sequel to CD. More evidence: if you look at [image] of Never Lake, and compare it to the lake on the Episode II [[[url=http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_4:_Episode_II/Gallery?image=S4ep2_mp1-png][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120422050530/sonic/images/7/77/S4ep2_mp1.png[/img|world map]], you will notice that the two lakes are very similar in shape. Also, look where Little Planet (which is being covered by the Death Egg II) is on the map : right over the lake. It is safe to say that this is Never Lake. Nice detail Sega!

See, this is why I'm saying you should read up on wikipedia policy. You can't "assume" things, and you can't jump to conclusions based on your personal observations of small details. That counts as original research. Furthermore, "wikia" is not a useable source, it fails WP:SPS. You need to learn what reliable sources are, and use them to prove your points, not just random observations and images from wikia. Sergecross73 msg me 17:36, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry about all this, all I wanted to do was provide good information.

It's okay, I just wish you would discuss things when your work is undone, rather than just reinstating it over and over again. Read WP:BRD - basically, the general flow is to edit, and if that edit is challenged or removed ("reverted") then you go to a discussion page, either for the article Sonic 4 or the user's personal talk page. If you did that moreso, you'd probably learn more about how Wikipedia works. Sergecross73 msg me 19:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Zagurzem: BTW, I know the game was leaked and all recently, but can I put the plot for Episode Metal and II up when they come out on the 15th?

Yes, plot doesn't typically require sources once it's released, again, unless a particular part of the plot is being challenged by others. However, it needs to be kept short, considering it's not a plot-heavy type game. It's a Sonic platformer, not Final Fantasy 13 or Mass Effect. Sergecross73 msg me 14:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll keep it as short as I can, but it'll definitely be more plot heavy than a typical Super Mario game!

Well, I'm not sure how "definite" that is, but I'll be around to trim it down if it gets too detailed too. I'd support merging of plots as well, just as long as it stated that the Metal plot points come from Metal in a sentence or something. Sergecross73 msg me 13:29, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I just meant, if you delete a subsection that says "Episode Metal", then the first sentence regarding Espisode Metal should probably start off something like "In Episode Metal, event X happens to person Y", subbing in actual plot points for the X and Y stuff. Sergecross73 msg me 16:14, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so I can't help but notice that you said you were going to Merge sections, and then you just went and deleted the subsection outright. Merging would including some combining of information, not just deleting it. It's one of the few things that actually does deserve to be mentioned, because it's sourced, it just doesn't necessarily need it's own subsection. Sergecross73 msg me 16:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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Sonic 4 image dispute (2)

I've started a new discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Sonic_4_and_images since there aren't many editors, especially experienced ones, that frequently vist the Sonic 4 talk page currently. Feel free to chime in. Sergecross73 msg me 20:49, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Sonic CD/Sonic series template

Thank you for putting Sonic CD back in the "main series" in the template. I don't believe it's a spinoff either. There is currently a discussion going on whether or not Sonic CD belong in the "main series" or "spinoff series", and another user prematurely moved it without consensus. There's currently a discussion going on at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Sonic_games#Sonic_CD_is_part_of_the_main_series.3F -- feel free to join in if you want. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 12:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll respond here, so the Sonic CD/template discussion doesn't go off topic: I like both of your new pictures for Sonic 4 Ep 1 and 2. Good find. Ultimately, I think they are the best choice, unless there is some obscure Wikipedia image policy I'm not aware of that prevents they're use... Sergecross73 msg me 18:27, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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