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Administrators' newsletter – May 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).

Administrator changes

Spicy

• Ale jrb
• Dbachmann
• DGG (deceased)
• Jimbo Wales

CheckUser changes

Jimbo Wales

Oversighter changes

Jimbo Wales

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

Technical news

• Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.

Arbitration

• The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.

Miscellaneous

• The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.

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Tech News: 2023-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
• When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [1]
• The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports wikitext as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as html5, moin, and html+handlebars, can now be replaced. [2]
• Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the Czech Wikipedia that uses preload=MediaWiki:July. [3]

Problems

• Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph. The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities. [4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).
• Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review. [5]

Future changes

• During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates. You can join the discussion about the format of the temporary usernames. [6]
• There will be an A/B test on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can read more. [7][8]
• jquery.tipsy will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with .tipsy( can be commented out. OO.ui.PopupWidget can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can read more and read about how to find broken scripts. [9]

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Tech News: 2023-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature. [10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 May. It will be on all wikis from 18 May (calendar).
• Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Gorontalo Wikipedia, Hausa Wikipedia, Hakka Chinese Wikipedia, Hawaiian Wikipedia, Fiji Hindi Wikipedia, Croatian Wikipedia, Upper Sorbian Wikipedia, Haitian Creole Wikipedia, Interlingua Wikipedia, Interlingue Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Iloko Wikipedia, Ingush Wikipedia, Ido Wikipedia, Icelandic Wikipedia, Inuktitut Wikipedia, Jamaican Patois Wikipedia, Javanese Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [11]

Future changes

• There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
• Gadget and userscript developers should replace jquery.cookie with mediawiki.cookie. The jquery.cookie library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time. [12]

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Do you want a copy of your CUwiki essay?

If so I would be happy to send you a copy. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

That's quite alright, thank you though — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 18:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello TnT

May I just say that I appreciate you immensely. The importance of your work on this project is undeniable. But more than that, I appreciate your dedication to reflection. Not everyone can do that and even fewer can assess the findings and apply changes to themselves and their conduct upon said reflection. You communicated this beautifully through your words. We have all lost the trust of people we care and admire along life's journey due to our emotional state of being in the moment and it sometimes is very hard to regain or rebuild that trust but I commend you on taking the steps and committing to the task of doing just that. I've never blamed you for your emotional response because I understand the reason behind it, even if I disagreed with your actions at the time. You are a unique and magnificent Rainbow of colors and character. You are an amazing symphony of various talents, abilities and experiences. Though some may appear to be negative or set you back, they are still a part of your Song and your journey whose ultimate goal is to be heard and be a part of the larger sound of human kind. I just wanted to stop by and say that you have been heard and I acknowledge you. --ARoseWolf 14:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Agree with ARoseWolf. Brave stuff, your AN posting. Your stock keeps going up, my friend. You are loved. BusterD (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

As someone who has said stupid things early in my wiki-career due to excessive emotional involvement, I empathize with your admittance of fault. You're not the only one who has made this mistake of letting your emotions get the best of you, but there are few who would make an outright apology. I applaud your statement. The Night Watch (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		Hi Sammy, I fully understand how you felt back then, and your motivation was unquestionably honourable. I almost went for the Barnstar of Integrity, which would be appropriate - but this one has a rainbow, which is nice :-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

👍 ☺ JBW (talk) 20:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

St. Paul's Balika Maha Vidyalaya, Kelaniya

Schools are exempt from WP:A7.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:55, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks Bbb23 — restored.. — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 19:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

That was fast, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal. [13]

Changes later this week

• An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact. [14]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).

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16:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your comments here. I have a very low tolerance for misplaced condescension, but I should have stepped away earlier. I'm happy that two other editors hopped in to explain and resolve the situation on the talk page. --JBL (talk) 17:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

- 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 has given you a Cheeseburger! Cheeseburgers promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a Cheeseburger, whether it be someone you've had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy eating!

Spread the goodness of Cheeseburgers by adding {{subst:Cheeseburger}} to their talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cheeseburger on the giver's talk page with {{subst:burger-munch}}!

Thanks for reverting the vandal on my talk page! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 21:34, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Please consider extending the block and revoking TPA per recent talk page comment. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 21:52, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be proposed to Zotero. The ISBN labels in the VisualEditor Automatic tab will reappear later this week. [15]
• The page Special:EditWatchlist now has "Check all" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [16]

Problems

• For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed. [17]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 May. It will be on all wikis from 1 June (calendar).
• VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on small and medium wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [18]

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Administrator changes

Ingenuity

• Ddstretch
• Prodego
• Resolute

CheckUser changes

Courcelles

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
• As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

Technical news

• Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

Miscellaneous

• Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.

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Tech News: 2023-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The RealMe extension allows you to mark URLs on your user page as verified for Mastodon and similar software.
• Citation and footnote editing can now be started from the reference list when using the visual editor. This feature request was voted #2 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [19]
• Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "Group results by page". This has now been fixed. [20]

Problems

• For a few days last week, some tools and bots returned outdated information due to database replication problems, and may have been down entirely while it was being fixed. These issues have now been fixed. [21]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
• Bots will no longer be prevented from making edits because of URLs that match the spam blacklist. [22]

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Tech News: 2023-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The content attribution tools Who Wrote That?, XTools Authorship, and XTools Blame now support the Dutch, German, Hungarian, Indonesian, Japanese, Polish and Portuguese Wikipedias. This was the #7 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [23]
• The Search Preview panel has been deployed on four Wikipedias (Catalan, Dutch, Hungarian and Norwegian). The panel will show an image related to the article (if existing), the top sections of the article, related images (coming from MediaSearch on Commons), and eventually the sister projects associated with the article. [24]
• The RealMe extension now allows administrators to verify URLs for any page, for Mastodon and similar software. [25]
• The default project license has been officially upgraded to CC BY-SA 4.0. The software interface messages have been updated. Communities should feel free to start updating any mentions of the old CC BY-SA 3.0 licensing within policies and related documentation pages. [26]

Problems

• For three days last month, some Wikipedia pages edited with VisualEditor or DiscussionTools had an unintended __TOC__ (or its localized form) added during an edit. There is a listing of affected pages sorted by wiki, that may still need to be fixed. [27]
• Currently, the "Sort this page by default as" feature in VisualEditor is broken. Existing {{DEFAULTSORT:...}} keywords incorrectly appear as missing templates in VisualEditor. Developers are exploring how to fix this. In the meantime, those wishing to edit the default sortkey of a page are advised to switch to source editing. [28]
• Last week, an update to the delete form may have broken some gadgets or user scripts. If you need to manipulate (empty) the reason field, replace #wpReason with #wpReason > input. See an example fix. [29]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).
• VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on English Wikipedia on Monday, and all other large wikis on Thursday. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here. [30]

Future changes

• From 5 June to 17 July, the Foundation's Security team is holding a consultation with contributors regarding a draft policy to govern the use of third-party resources in volunteer-developed gadgets and scripts. Feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome at Third-party resources policy on meta-wiki.

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ARC

Your statement reminded me of something. My understanding is that if someone isn't active (for whatever reason) when an ArbCom case is started, they have 3 months to respond? AlisonW did try to defend herself and demonstrate accountability, even if it wasn't quite the reponse I was hoping to hear. But it's an attempt at accountability that's more than someone just disappearing from a situation, which is understandable to its own extent too because I'd imagine such events are stressful. So 3 months either way might make sense? I don't have any firm thoughts on this either way and maybe I'm not thinking this through enough, but I do try to keep an open mind. I'll also admit that Secretlondon's statement did bother me because they seem to be extremely concientous about trying to do the right thing. It didn't lead me to the same conclusion as jc37, but it did bother me that something that seemed so clear to me wasn't to others. It wasn't the mistake that bothered me at ARC but the response... I was expected something more along the lines of what GeneralNotability suggested. But I also don't want to make admins from older wikigenerations feel like they're walking on eggshells because some things have changed over time. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:27, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello TheresNoTime,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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Tech News: 2023-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Flame graphs are now available in WikimediaDebug. [31][32]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
• There is now a toolbar search popup in the visual editor. You can trigger it by typing \ or pressing ctrl + shift + p. It can help you quickly access most tools in the editor. [33][34]

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MediaWiki message delivery 20:07, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

AlisonW case request accepted

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW/Evidence. Please add your evidence by June 30, 2023, which is when the evidence phase closes. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 23:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Illusion Flame

Hi TNT. I was surprised to see this on my watchlist. Putting aside the wisdom of handling potentially controversial WP:PERM requests off-wiki, why make the right permanent only two weeks into a two month trial that you yourself decided on? I note that you note that the "concern on the talk page" (User_talk:Illusion_Flame#DRAFTIFY_and_hasty_reviewing, I assume), but I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. For me the issue is decidedly un-resolved since Illusion Flame didn't in fact respond to any of my concerns. I was planning to check whether there were still issues with his draftifications when his trial expired – it's hard to tell now since he seems to have mostly given up on article reviewing since that exchange. A quick look through his talk page—with negative feedback about his CVU patrolling, new page patrolling, RfA conduct, asking to become an NPP coordinator while still on a trial, all from this month—shows that I'm far from the only one worried that this user is biting off more than they can chew. – Joe (talk) 15:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hey Joe, thanks for the message — I had a chat with Illusion Flame on the community discord server the other day, and whilst I do get your point on potentially controversial WP:PERM requests being handled off-wiki (and, on reflection, I should have asked them to reiterate their comments on-wiki, that's my mistake..) I do try to only make decisions based on on-wiki information. Atsme's comment in that thread (which was indeed the one I was referring to) went some way to assuage the concerns I had specific to the NPP right, which along with becoming an NPP coordinator at least made me lean towards the extension of the permission. I agree that Illusion Flame is biting off more than they can chew (and I've told them as much previously), but so did I way back when — I try to judge the "hat collecting sorts" on the likelihood of them causing damage or disruption, and leave those who are well-meaning but overenthusiastic to figure out "the hard way" why collecting headwear never works out.

All that being said, as you started the DRAFTIFY and hasty reviewing thread, and you note that you do not consider the issue resolved, I'm more than happy to defer to your judgement and undo my change. I have no qualms with being cautious — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 15:29, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree that these things tend to work themselves out, one way or another. My concern was that if you let people think that chumming up to admins in an off-wiki chatroom is a way to bypass the on-wiki processes everyone else uses, the fallout is going to be worse for everyone involved. – Joe (talk) 15:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Makes sense, and my intention certainly isn't that, so thank you for pointing out how that may look. Just for clarity, did you want me to revert my permissions change? — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 15:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I think that would be for the best. – Joe (talk) 16:53, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Done — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 17:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello everyone! My internet is going to be shut off in about ~1 hour so I won’t be able to comment here much further. I’m sad to see that @Joe Roe doesn’t think the right was worth extending and I’m interested to hear why they didn’t consider the thread resolved. @Atsme was very clear and I didn’t feel I needed to add anything to her comment. It resolved all of the issues you noted, so I don’t know what’s left to discuss. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Also, there were no issues raised about my vandalism reverting with the counter vandalism academy, nor it that relevant to NPP rights. And I never requested to be a coordinator, I was asked to become one. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I’ll ping some coordinators to weigh in here: @Zippybonzo, @Atsme - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:16, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I didn't post on your talk page because I wanted to hear from Atsme. Nor, I'm sure, does TNT want to host a discussion about your reviewing here. If you feel the expiration of your NPP right is no longer necessary, then ask for it to be made permanent at WP:PERM/NPP like everyone else. Although personally I would strongly recommend you to just get on with some editing. – Joe (talk) 17:40, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I don’t have to justify my actions to you for a second time. Atsme already did so and to repeat it would be a waste of my time. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to say that Illusion Flame would do a lot better if they didn't review such controversial articles so soon, I've been a reviewer for a year and a bit, and still don't want to review controversial articles still. I'm not against neither for the perm change, but I don't think asking admins off wiki when the right is controversial is a best practice, as then some hat collector will just ask for as many rights as they can get away with. If you want it extending, do it how everyone else does it, at PERM. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Just want to note that I had to do that article specifically because it was part of my NPP school training. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I do say that writing a newsletter isn't that intensive. Given I wanted someone to help with the newsletter, and Illusion Flame is rather competent, I'm going to ignore the coordinator concerns. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:50, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

To be blunt, it's not your place to deal with those concerns, as you're not a lead coordinator. Concerns, at this point in time, should be directed to Novem Linguae as they are the only active lead coordinator. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:17, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Since this appears to have been a point of confusion for Illusion Flame as well, it's probably worth pointing out here that the role of NPP coordinator is self-appointed and purely a matter of, as the name suggests, coordinating various routine tasks. The actual NPP permission, like all permissions, is managed by administrators. NPP actions are subject to the same community-based conduct and dispute resolution processes as everything else (talk page discussions, WP:XRV, WP:ANI, etc). NPP coordinators do not have any special role in these processes. – Joe (talk) 04:44, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

I’m not sure where you thought I was confused here. I fully understood this before you made the comment. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:23, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Action API modules and Special:LinkSearch will now add a trailing / to all prop=extlinks responses for bare domains. This is part of the work to remove duplication in the externallinks database table. [35]

Problems

• Last week, search was broken on Commons and Wikidata for 23 hours. [36][37]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
• The Minerva skin now applies more predefined styles to the .mbox-text CSS class. This enables support for mbox templates that use divs instead of tables. Please make sure that the new styles won't affect other templates in your wiki. [38][39]
• Gadgets will now load on both desktop and mobile by default. Previously, gadgets loaded only on desktop by default. Changing this default using the |targets= parameter is also deprecated and should not be used. You should make gadgets work on mobile or disable them based on the skin (with the |skins= parameter in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition) rather than whether the user uses the mobile or the desktop website. Popular gadgets that create errors on mobile will be disabled by developers on the Minerva skin as a temporary solution. [40]
• All namespace tabs now have the same browser access key by default. Previously, custom and extension-defined namespaces would have to have their access keys set manually on-wiki, but that is no longer necessary. [41]
• The review form of the Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standardized user interface components. [42]

Future changes

• How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will change in the coming weeks at group2 wikis. This change improves the accessibility of content. You may need to update your site-CSS, or userscripts and gadgets. There are details on what code to check, how to update the code, and where to report any related problems. [43]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia:Wikisaurus

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Plantdrew (talk) 03:54, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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New pages awaiting review as of June 30th, 2023.

Hello TheresNoTime,

The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

Novem Linguae

• Deckiller
• Electionworld
• MBisanz
• Penwhale
• Raul654
• Roadrunner
• Viridae
• Yannismarou

Bureaucrat changes

MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

• Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.

Technical news

• Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

Arbitration

• Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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Rollback extension

Hi TNT, I was wondering if you could extend my rollback indefinitely, I know it's a few months away, but so far I've enjoyed using the tool and the tools that require it, and would like it extending indefinitely. Best, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 19:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

I know this isn’t required or anything, but I can say that Zippy is definitely competent enough for these rights and is now a CVUA instructor. It doesn’t make much sense for him to still have a trial period. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 19:55, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• As part of the rolling out of the audio links that play on click wishlist proposal, small wikis will now be able to use the inline audio player that is implemented by the Phonos extension. [44]
• From this week all gadgets automatically load on mobile and desktop sites. If you see any problems with gadgets on your wikis, please adjust the gadget options in your gadget definitions file. [45]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 July. It will be on all wikis from 6 July (calendar).

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Edit filters for old AfDs?

I was wondering whether we have edit filters for old AfDs, that tracks non-bot edits made to AfD pages after their conclusion. There's an AfD I begun at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sardar Patel (disambiguation). There is a vandal with 3 usernames that keeps on vandalising this and 4 other AfD pages. Now, my eyes are on the AfD I created, and so are others looking at it, but do we have protection from vandals for AfDs that were closed long ago? Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 16:31, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.

Have a great day!

Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 23:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 July newsletter

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

• Thebiguglyalien, with 919 points from a featured article on Frances Cleveland as well as five good articles and many reviews,
• Unlimitedlead, with 862 points from a high-scoring featured articles on Henry II of England and numerous reviews,
• Iazyges, with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on Tiberius III.

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)