User talk:Swliv/Archive02

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This is an archive page, 10 October 2011 to 21 February 2013. Please don't post anything or edit anything here. If you would like to address any of the subjects covered on this page, please link to the subject here: For example, use link User talk:Swliv/Archive02#Redirect deletion (if I can get it working; sorry; ask me if not fixed) to refer to #Redirect deletion (click and/or see below for the "Redirect deletion" section) in a new section (which you start) at User talk:Swliv.

Thanks and cheers. Swliv (talk) 15:08, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

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I replied to your most recent response as well. Thanks.--Rollins83 (talk) 13:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Enough said there, I think. Thanks. Swliv (talk) 18:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Extra tildes

thanks for the tip, Swliv.

I have a more involved question: I made a new page which was later deleted, then found that others had previously done so but it had been repeatedly deleted. How do I appeal this decision to delete a page? (and to whom?) If you know or can direct me to someone who does, it would be especially helpful to note that on my page. thanks again Jvol (talk) 00:25, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Reply at Extra tildes ("~"). Swliv (talk) 18:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Malta+

Actually, I deleted Netherlands and Malta, since they had approved EFSF expansion, and hence don't need to me mentioned anymore, leaving only Slovakia to approve EFSF. I guess sourcing a deletion is a bit tricky? What is the protocol there? If ok with you, I will delete the reference to them again and add only Slovakia, with this source? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-10/malta-approves-added-powers-for-efsf-shifting-focus-to-slovakia.html

Then again, by the end of tonight, even Slovakia may have approved EFSF expansion, and then the whole paragraph could be deleted? FinHits (talk) 16:28, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

The rest of this exchange can be found here and here, I think now on its way to resolution. Swliv (talk) 18:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Welcome moment of update

User:FinHits, it turns out, had first started with an edit like the above on my user page. I just found it (and removed it). It took me a little while to figure out the exact course of the exchange all around, but having done so I'll say:

For another chapter in this (broader) story, one may wish to check out this round on Greece. I learned a good deal from it as to how the world works, how Wikipedia works and dare I say? how Wikipedia works in the world. One'll note I've not as of now yet received an answer or a "red-out" action, there; though I'm completely accepting of that resolution-for-the-moment.

I'll also say I've cringed a few times since I wrote "resolution" above on 11 October. Of course I just meant "... of this particular Wikipedia exchange" but I didn't say that ... and the larger situation has been and is of course still hugely unresolved. On we go. Swliv (talk) 18:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

see Rajat Gupta talk page

thanks for the comments! My2011 (talk) 18:40, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Defterleri

Hi,
Sorry for not replying earlier. I've tried to explain a little on my talkpage, and the Defter article has been updated slightly. There are a lot of interesting sources out there, but be careful as uses of words changed over time (following changes in the tax system). bobrayner (talk) 10:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Replied there. Swliv (talk) 16:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Thanks+

That was certainly an interesting way to put it. Heh. --Jtalledo (talk) 05:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

... here. Swliv (talk) 20:36, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

deadlinks

I fixed the deadlink to scout.com in Jerry Sandusky. For future reference, you can refer to Wikipedia:DEADLINK#Repairing_a_dead_link. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 20:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll reply at Bagumba Talk. Swliv (talk) 01:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Nice addition, thanks

to the Stop Online Piracy Act page Elinruby (talk) 03:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Reply there. Swliv (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Ross MacManus

Ha, was wondering whether anyone would pick up on that. WP:NOTINHERITED is a pet hate of mine - if MacManus is a notable enough musician to have his own article here, he's notable enough to be listed under his own career, not his son's. It'd make for quite an interesting discussion on the recent deaths talk page, thinking about it: should we include notable relatives in the description, or limit it to the deceased's own achievements? Apologies for not giving it an edit summary though, I'm terrible for forgetting that. EJBH (talk) 23:46, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notifications (consolidated; slimmed)

Hi. I'm the guilty party. Though I've been getting better. In this section with an amended hed ("Disambiguation link notification of [so-and-so date]" is the norm, I think) I've brought together and emended all the notifications I had strung through this page. I haven't been, and am still not, ready to remove the messages completely (despite the kind offer) -- they are helping me break a tendency to make a simple mistake regularly. Somewhere I think I've commented I wish the bot could stop the edit in process, like the bold-red-letter notifications of "no {{reflist}}" or the like in an edit preview. If one wishes to be sobered, check this DAB Challenge leaderboard. Anyway, hope we can make out the emendations, continue to improve. 16:15 Post script: Page has 29,429 bytes down 6,298 bytes with this emendation. ;-) Swliv (talk) 16:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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Good catch. Corrected. Swliv (talk) 19:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC) ... But you missed this one to Stop Online Piracy Act I made a day earlier (and also now corrected). Swliv (talk) 20:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. In Daniel Mudd, you recently added a link to the disambiguation page SEC ... 11:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Got me again. I thought about it ... but let it get by. Ah, well. ON we go. Thanks again. Swliv (talk) 04:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. ... Donald Gregg ... to Vanity Fair; Restore Our Future ... to Glenn Kessler ... DPL bot ... 10:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Bah!! Double-bah! Both fixed ... and certainly thought about VFair but it slipped through. I am trying (and I know I'm talking to a bot, here; ...). ... Tried dabsolver to no avail -- no apparent directions; maybe I'll try again ... if there is a next time. Thanks once again. (Opt out? Kidding? How can I make it an auto-check-factor before saving?) Happy holidays! Swliv (talk) 20:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. ... Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant ... to the disambiguation page Dai-ichi ... DPL bot ... 10:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

In this case the link was intentional. While Dia-ichi is a dab page, it also has the basic translation info necessary to understand the foreign-language power plant name. As such, I would/will leave it. Thanks. Swliv (talk) 10:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Foster Friess ... to Mother Jones; Michelle Alexander ... to Making Contact ... DPL bot ... 10:58, 17 January 2012 (UTC) Done. :-( Swliv (talk) 16:55, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Allensbach Institute ... to David Marsh; ... Mittelstand ... to David Marsh; ... DPL bot ... 10:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Done (a while back) and via the "fix with Dad solver", liked it!. I commented further on an aspect of the solver here, in the "Oh, yeh" paragraph (yeh, it was a pretty relaxed, may I say? comment bit). Swliv (talk) 01:03, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Benjamin Brafman ... to the disambiguation page Forest Hills ... DPL bot ... 11:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Have been better, lately :-). Done. Swliv (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Urs Hölzle ... to ... Routers; ... DPL bot ... 10:34, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Fixed? I guess. Swliv (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Sir George Cockburn, 10th Baronet ... to ... Counterpunch ... DPL bot ... 14:49, 3 September 2012 (UTC) Ditto. Swliv (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi. ... Paula Wagner ... to ... Lenny ... DPL bot ... 11:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Swliv (talk) 15:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Request for your perspective on SOPA

Hi Swliv, there's currently an ongoing discussion about splitting the Stop Online Piracy Act page at Talk:Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#ONGOING_DISCUSSION_-_Splitting_the_Article. You've familiarized yourself with the entry before, and your insight and perspective on the matter would be appreciated. Hope to see you there, Sloggerbum (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Done, here. Thanks and good luck. Swliv (talk) 00:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks :) Sloggerbum (talk) 13:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Mario Draghi / ECB Tenure

Thanks for the changes and the advice. Not sure I got the "get the red out part", but if that's to reinforce the recommendation to sign my messages, I got that. McKidd (talk) 10:33, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Reply here. Swliv (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks

...for doing the research I didn't bother to do. Also, I'm amused that it's an M&T Employee (Allfirst?). -Ich (talk) 21:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Category on userpage

I fixed it for you: [1] --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 22:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I replied here or (after, say, April 30, 2012) here and have since heard back, below, here: Swliv (talk) 01:03, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

You are right, it was out of date. I think I'll rewrite it so that it does not require updating, which I obviously was forgetting :) Thanks, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 00:34, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

M Weiner

Got your note. I am a pacifist in matters of Wiki policy. I find the Fresh Air interviews to be routinely interesting and I just added the link while it was fresh in my mind to give a pointer to an interesting resource for further insights. What a person says about themselves in an interview may be more or less reliable than what is said about them in the New York Times. I like the interviews as a resource, so that is why I added the link; on the theory that "more is more" (if it is filtered in some way) when it comes to information and sources. But I have no problem if you want to remove it. I am not clear on how it is improved by taking it away, but maybe it is. I don't have strong enough feelings to debate the point, so if you think it is better to delete it, then your view is OK by me. But thanks for leaving me the comment nonetheless. --Mdukas (talk) 01:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Noted, thanks! WolverineLawyer (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Redirect to self?

This is a funny one which [I thought would] may be deleted so keeping an extra copy here:

See Talk:Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference 16:54

They are not identical - the apostrophe in "People's" is a straight apostrophe ' in the article and a curly one (single closing quote ’) in the other. If you put them next to each other ' ’ you can see the difference. JohnCD (talk) 17:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Cusack

Hi, yes, you're right. I was getting irritated by vandalism on the page. It was time to back up and have a nice cup of tea. Let me know if you take milk and/or sugar. Span (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Rajat Gupta article

Hi there, just wanted to point you to Talk:Rajat_Gupta#Entry_getting_away_from_Wiki_Guidelines if you were still interested in helping cleanup the page. I think it's time we tackled it properly! My[2011] (talk) | 02:47, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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R Gupta

I just wanted to clarify a bit of what I was saying. If I was reputation.com I wouldn't be asking to remove his career progress and mentors. I was just trying to emphasis that Wiki is not a news source for updates like ongoing legal cases, its more for decisions. Since you feel and I assume you are correct, that his trial, like that of Rajaratnam's, is notable I will begin the work on that entry and start transfering some of the content. All will be linked to Gupta's entry. I apologize if my wording came off heavy-handed. Monstermike99 (talk) 6:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Swliv, would appreciate your thoughts on this: Talk:Insider Trading 2011#Moving "Gupta's relationships" section back to Gupta article. Interested in your feedback. Thx! My[2011] (talk) | 19:29, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

my reply to your query on the Talk:Tracheal intubation page

On 12 September 2011, you asked a question here. I have been busy elsewhere, and have only just seen this today. I have posted my reply on the Talk:Tracheal intubation page. I hope this answers your question. Believe me, it was not my idea to come up with this convoluted system for listing references. You may find more information at Help:Footnotes. Regards, DiverDave (talk) 04:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Gupta Guilty

Some editors kind of updated the page but we should create an official page also like SEC_v._Rajaratnam, thoughts? --Monstermike99 (talk) 16:44, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Heard. Not having thought the current "second" ("insider trading cases") page was needed, I'm also not too eager on the proposed third (?; conversion?*) page. I've more recently done some work on the second page, started to feel like it's getting a bit presentable at least. I guess the RGupta chunks could be transferred with a link. I don't see me leading the charge. If you're inclined, I guess I'd say for you to propose your idea on that talk page, let apparently interested ed's know of proposal, see how the comments shake out. Fair? *Do you see the second page continuing at all?

I'll also add the second page was getting a quarter the hits the RGupta page was getting recently. And since 99% of RGupta hits were for the trial, I'd say, that seems a substantial loss of readership/reader-awareness, having the trial stuff carved off primarily over to the second page. That updates my original objection to the second page.

Finally, since writing most of the above, I've been to the second page and found nothing about the conviction there; and to the RGupta page and found it pretty shabby on that front. That it was more important to you to come here than to take care of that leaves me still perplexed by what is driving you. ... For now. Swliv (talk) 19:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Gupta 6/15: I accidentally overwrote your edits :)

please go ahead and reincorporate. (if it were anyone else I would have done it myself :-D) My[2011] (talk) | 19:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

OK. Reincorporated. Thnks. Swliv (talk) 19:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Forgot to ask if there was anything else? Swliv (talk) 16:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Penn State Sex Abuse Scandal

I understand where you're coming from and no doubt, I still disagree with you and obviously you still disagree with me. But, I just want to let you know that I had not intention of using a "tone" that you found off-putting. When I was referring to "snarky" and "actually insightful", I was writing exclusively in reference to Dowd, not yourself. I apologize if this all rubbed you the wrong way and you took personal offense. Please know that I meant no harm in my previous comment. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied there. Swliv (talk) 16:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Citation

I assume you're referring to the bit about censure and the quotation, both of which appear in the original article that you posted: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/big-ten-fines-penn-state-13-mln-in-sandusky-case-2012-07-23.

In the article: "The Big Ten Conference of collegiate athletics on Monday officially censured Penn State University for its role in handling the case of convicted child sexual abuser Jerry Sandusky." and the quote of the Big Ten's statement: "The intent of the sanctions imposed today is not to destroy a great university, but rather to seek justice and constructively assist a member institution with its efforts to reform. From this day forward, as Penn State continues to make amends, the Big Ten conference and its member institutions will continue to engage with them in every aspect of conference membership." --Jtalledo (talk) 20:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh and on a related note, there's a discussion on the talk page about the Big Jock Knew link, if you've something to say about it. --Jtalledo (talk) 20:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Actually, the reason I added the info in the first place was because I went to the article you provided and saw there was additional information to add. --Jtalledo (talk) 20:29, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work on the PSCSAS article. Since you've previously done some work on the sections, I was wondering if you could maybe separate the organizational response sections. It is largely divided into responses from shortly after the scandal broke and it sort of jumps forward in time several months through the trial and into the Freeh report and the NCAA/Big Ten sanctions. It would probably be better to section off the initial response stuff from the post-conviction/Freeh report stuff since it just looks chronologically confused. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again for the work on the sections - looks fine. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Solyndra

Hi. I was cleaning up the dead links and grammar. I guess that happens from time to time when articles are archived or deleted. I attempt to stay neutral (bland) regarding a subject. Thanks for the input.--Bf2002 (talk) 23:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Had to look back :-). Lot's gone on at Solyndra since, I see; makes me a little curious, though it did need work; all that politics, you know, hope it's all for the best ;-)`. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 20:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of Iraq War to the Algerian War

As a contributor to this article, you may be interested to know I have nominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of Iraq War to the Algerian War. Robofish (talk) 23:54, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of Iraq War to the Algerian War

I requested userification of User:Geo Swan/Comparison of Iraq War to the Algerian War. I wondered whether if all the unreferenced paragraphs had been excised the article could have sailed through {{afd}}. Since you contributed to the article I thought I would invite you to take a look. Please feel free to offer an opinion on the advisability of restoration to article space on its talk page. Please feel free to edit the user space version.

The closing administrator, in their concluding statement, wrote: "It looks full of OR and, unless multiple works have been published doing an in-depth histiography of the subject, is not a viable encyclopedic article."

I don't understand why the closing administrator wrote we need "in-depth histiographies of the subject". Do you?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied at userfication talk page. Swliv (talk) 19:03, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Typo? Thanks at MPS

Hi thanks for the encouragement. I deliberately spelt "wrong" as "wrng" <smile>. And that "More yet-more-mixed signals. Well, bon chance!" link you provided did some accidently have a discussion on my talk page for someone else? Anyway Wikipedia is very interesting. Yanks for the heads up Senkoshai (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

69th Infantry Regiment (United States)

ok fixed the page yet once again. this time now that heraldry institute has published the federal COA maybe the people who cant read will get a clue. next time give me a shout Brian in denver (talk) 16:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

This is too specialized a response for me to interpret now. I still see "United States" and "New York" articles as identical, from a quick glimpse. And now it seems there's a third 69th, a National Guard unit. I can't work on it now, but my thread can be picked up here. I'll try to come back to it. Thanks. 18:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I've reread this section twice, now, and felt no "tug" to reinvolvement. Was it just the misspelling of Antietam? Yes. I'll have to leave the larger issues, if they're there, to others. Cheers. Swliv (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Gloria Romero article

I appreciate your kind note (posted September 26) regarding the "Gloria Romero" biographical entry. My reply is at User talk:Roman Spinner#Gloria J. Romero.—Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 07:32, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I've replied there. Thanks. Swliv (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Philip J. Hanlon

Thanks for fixing the article. Dartmouth students are the ones responsible for the anecdote about arrests. I'm not going to edit the article, but if you want, you could keep a watch on it. Philip Hanlon and Phillip Hanlon are redlinks that need fixed too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.15.254.169 (talk) 12:59, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to know the basis for asserting the guilty parties. I've now done the first redlink. Resisting so far doing the misspelling. My focus on the article is pretty likely fleeting; was curious about the possible-vandalism play-out. (I'd been drawn to the u's presidency by the appointment away of Prof. Hanlon's predecessor, to the World Bank.) Cheers. Swliv (talk) 03:18, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

I know you're following there, but wanted to show you this one

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Thank You

Thank you for the compliment! I wrote the criticism with the assumption that whoever I was criticizing wasn't going to read it. Sorry )=--Joey (talk) 07:29, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Are you asking if I look at wikipedia page views? If so, yes. I love knowing people are looking at articles I've contributed to!--Joey (talk) 07:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

That is what I was asking. Wonder about today's fig's even.

To your earlier above: No problem. With the simultaneous (to the minute) cross-post ps, I don't know for sure to which (of the) compliment(s) you're maybe referring. I think I'm '07 ... so a skin of a certain thickness myself, in the way of thangs. All best. /:. Fourth 07:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

• Oh are you asking me to look at your edits? I think they look fine, the only problem was the infobox. :) --Joey (talk) 08:21, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Aarg. Backsliding. These and Dec. 21 one fixed. Does one thank a bot? Has a talk page. OK, thank you. (The Dab solver works real well. Thanks again.) Swliv (talk) 17:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

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It was fixed before I got there; but there was another waiting and I fixed it. I've partially removed DPL bot copy at ellipsis for space. :-) Swliv (talk) 05:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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History of this section here and here. I responded to the request here. Swliv (talk) 03:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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