User talk:Stwalkerster/Archive November 2008

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Stwalkerster in topic List of Korean War veterans

Helpmebot access

Hello, just a reminder to add me to the "access denied warning" list for our favorite IRC bot. Thanks, see you around. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:32, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I've added the nick "Hersfold" to the bot's list (in v5.2.7.0) - you'll only be alerted if your current nick matches that. :-) Stwalkerstertalk ] 11:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC

Verifying that I requested ACC access. Let me know if you need any other information. Thank you for your time, MatthewYeager 23:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

CWii's RfA

Hi St, Just letting you know that I removed your !vote from CWii's RfA. He had withdrawn it before you !voted, and there is no need to rub salt into failed RfA's.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 16:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

  Thank you for participating in my RfA, which recently passed with 126 in support, 22 in opposition and 6 neutral votes.

Thanks for your support in my RFA!! And of course just a big thanks in general :)
If you want to reply to this message please use my talk page as watch listing about 150 pages is a bit messy
·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 22:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC todo (note from self)

  • Checkuser known ranges, if they are revealed by checkuser at all. (If not, this will be impossible)
  • Hide IPs of closed requests (FIX),

Stwalkerstertalk ] 00:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Article

Hi again,

you removed the enclosed article from the Kuwaiti Oil Fires, for the third time and I do not appear to be able to get this posted. The article contains useful information of what went on in Kuwait in 1991 and I feel that it is a useful source of information.

I have not been able to find help on this facility and need some help to edit this article and help me put two photographs in the article but no one replies from the help me page.

Can you help?

Regards, Branko R Babic. --InventKuwait (talk) 09:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

In early 1991 the world was shocked by the bedlam inflicted on a small, weak but extremely rich country that was not equipped for war. Defenceless against the well armed aggressor, the people of Kuwait were quickly overpowered. Economics seem to have been the bases for the attack on Kuwait and control of the oil wealth of Kuwait was said to be the primary goal of the powers that conceived the war. When western powers moved into Kuwait the retreating Iraqi forces are said to have destroyed some 700 hundred oil wells crippling the Kuwaiti economy and causing an environmental catastrophe.

The world had never seen a problem of this type before and the specialist services that were instructed to resolve the crisis had no idea how to cope with the scale of the devastation. The Kuwaiti Government watching the burning of a precious, irreplaceable resource and being advised by the specialist teams hired to put out the oil fires that the task could not be completed in less than two years and could possibly take as long as five, the Kuwaitis were faced with the total destruction of their economy.

As a desperate last choice they invited anyone with containment know-how to come forward and present their concept for consideration. All over the world vast numbers of scientists, specialist firms, oil industry consultants, materials specialist, etc and a huge number of ordinary men and women who have never been near a burning oil well, put forward concepts for the containment of the burning oil wells. Soon after the invitation the agencies set up to handle and oversee submitted ideas were flooded with descriptions and methodology that had never been tried or tested before and it was reported that in the UK the offices receiving submissions were stuffed full of letters, drawings and proposals on how to put out the fires. Rooms were full from floor to ceiling with submissions from various quarters, most of which never saw the light of day.

In this scramble to help solve a unique problem an inventor, Branko Babic put forward a proposal to the Kuwaiti Oil Corporation in London UK, that was accepted and used to contain over half of all the burning oil wells in Kuwait. A Chemistry degree from London University provided Babic with know-how, to offer a simple solution for the control of damaged oil wells. A fire is a well understood chemical process in which oxygen reacts with a combustible substance to achieve new products and at the same time liberate a large amount of energy. It was the heat of the fires that was the main problem in containing the damage caused to the oil well heads and as soon as the heat was removed from any given site the repair of the damaged installation, was the simplest of engineering tasks.

The patent applied for technology provided by Babic consisted of a long tube about 10 metres in length, that was positioned directly above the burning oil well. The escaping material being under pressure was forced up this displacement tube to emerge at the top of the structure and continue burning some distance above the damaged installation. In this way, the heat generated by burning oil was displaced some distance from the working area and the engineers could start work on cutting and repairing the damaged oil facility, whilst it was still burning. The fire was put out using basic chemistry principals. A fire being a chemical reaction between oxygen and a hydrocarbon, cannot occur if any of the constituent reactants are absent so that by removing oxygen from the inside of the tube, the fire was immediately extinguished. Very simply principals applied, no oxygen no fire.

The removal of oxygen from the combusting environment was achieved according to prevailing conditions and was planned to be used by lowering the tube containing the burning oil to the ground thus preventing air from entering the lumen of the tube. The second method proposed was the removal of the displacement tube to one side of the oil well so as to create a break in the burning column of oil. In this case, the oil was burning at the top of the tube and as the long tube was rapidly moved to one side of the oil installation the hot end of the assembly was moved some distance from the escaping column of oil and not having a source of heat to promote combustion, the escaping oil did not reignite. Thirdly, given that the oil wells were sited in the middle of the desert the pumping of nitrogen gas into the tube was proposed to prevent air from entering the combustion area. By the time the technology was accepted and applied in Kuwait the fire fighting teams had installed piping to duct water from the sea and vast volumes of salt water were used to keep the working areas around the burning wells cool. Once the displacement tube was in position the intensity of the fires was controlled by pumping varying quantities of water into the lumen of the displacement tube and when the fires needed to be put out the tube was flooded with water, as a means of removing oxygen from the combustion equation.

(Picture Displacement Tube)

The displacement tube concept was extremely effective and well over half of all fires were controlled using this methodology. As a means of controlling burning oil wells the displacement tube has become the preferred method of containing fires, particularly highly pressurised well installations.

Much use for the oxygen displacement has emerged since the concept was proposed for use in Kuwait. The fact that basic chemistry is at work means that no fire can occur if any of the components of the fire are missing and by removing oxygen from the equation a vast number of applications have emerged where combustibles can be prevented from igniting. The technology has successfully been introduced to containers of fuel such as aircraft fuel tanks, fuel carrying super tankers, oil storage facilities, enclosed combustible storage facilities and even controlling fires in contained environments such as housing. Many uses are yet to emerge as the value of the concept of oxygen displacement is further innovated.

Mysterious political pressures were at play at the time and the best technology intended for rapid containment of the damaged oil well heads, was NOT allowed to be used in Kuwait.

In addition to the displacement tubes Babic also designed counter pressure plugs, that were intended to be lowered into the damaged ends of the riser tubes. The technology provided steel plugs with soft metal collars that were lowered inside the burning well head pipes and dropped, to block the opening of any given pipe and thus staunch the flow of escaping oil, in a similar manner to the way that a cork plugs an opening of a champagne bottle. The total weight of the steel plug exceeded the pressure of the escaping oil and once the plug was in position the installation could be left, plugged and secure from escaping oil, until the engineering teams had time to repair the facility. Several damaged oil installations could have been contained per day with a team of tree men. The entire Kuwaiti saga could have been resolved within a couple of months.

(Picture Counter pressure Plugs)

The story of Branko Babic a lone inventor, was documented by the Discovery Science Channel “The Inventors” on shown on Sky TV. science.channel.com

Branko R Babic Invention and Innovation

Dana King

  • I split off the edits for the journalist and moved them back to Dana King. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I assume this was completely my fault, and that the pages were separate to begin with? If so, I'm sorry for the trouble I put you through. I think it's time I had an early night for once. :-) Stwalkerstertalk ] 22:53, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Most of the edits in Dana King were about the football coach, but the last 3 edits were about the journalist. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Help

Ok thanks for your Help I will not abuse this condition and will take this seriously. I have read the conditions and i will asure that i dont cause Bother

Thanks once again --Elite Rhodes ] [Talk] 21:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the support!

Thanks for supporting my successful Rfa! You know where to find me when you need something!--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 20:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

THO

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Thehelpfulone If you'd like to add your joint nom good sir ! Pedro :  Chat  08:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC Tool template rewrite

Hey there. I noticed a slight grammatical error in the wording of the {{ACC-access}} template, and decided to do a minor rewrite. Since you were the one that placed it on the page I just figured I should let you know, I don't know if I have changed anything you would rather keep the same. Have a nice day! :) neuro(talk) 19:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I only added the template's name to the code of the template, like all the uw-vandalism3 (etc...) do. Mww113 is the one you want to talk to :P Stwalkerstertalk ] 19:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC flag

What sort of things make a user eligible for an ACC flag? I recently came across a case which I had to defer because the username was too similar, but the other account met the requirements laid out at this page. I cannot seem to find the criteria - are they decided on a case by case basis? Thanks, neuro(talk) 18:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, this is reporting as taken, but it isn't. I noted that this is a known issue, but what do I do in this situation? neuro(talk) 19:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I tend to give the flag based on need, which is normally a case of you've hit the limit of 6 accounts/ip address/24 hours. However, if the defer thing is really pissing you off, then I can give it to you if you look like you won't abuse it. :P The problem with accounts being marked as taken is a known issue - it's caused by some of the caching servers that the Wikimedia Foundation use to ease traffic. Tim Starling knows about it, and you will probably find that the affected accounts will be creatable in a few hours. However, I know from the way the tool works that requests rarely last that long, and people mark the request as taken anyway. To be honest, the easiest course of action is to say that the account is taken, get the user to choose a new username, and create their second choice (if possible). We really should sort out some course of action to take when these accounts seem to be taken but are actually not, although I can't think of one at the moment - I'm practically asleep after a long journey back from Birmingham. Regards, Stwalkerstertalk ] 21:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I just hit it now with 16799. A flag would be useful, but don't feel compelled to give it to me unless you feel happy about it. I will hit taken next time, that is probably the best idea. Thanks for the advice! :) neuro(talk) 23:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. :) neuro(talk) 05:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC confirmation

You asked me to confirm my account, MathCool10. Well, I confirm that it's my account. MathCool10 (talk) 00:53, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

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RfA thanks

  The RfA Barnstar
Stwalkerster, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your nomination for my RFA, if I have any questions, don't worry -> I'll ask you! ;) The Helpful One 22:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC issues

Hey Stwalkerster,

First of all, a quick thank you for giving me access. I've read the guide, I've approved a few users already and knocked one back for being too similar to an active account, so it seems to be going well. I've had a couple of issues though so I thought I'd send you a quick message (and make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong since I'm still learning). The first issue was that I wasn't allowed to create accounts from uni even while I was logged on with this account, since the IPs there are banned from creating accounts. I spoke to someone on IRC and they said there was nothing that could be done about it, but I thought I'd check anyway. The next issue I had was that there is a limit of 6 new accounts per 24 hours. I understand why that exists, but it seemed a little odd that it doesn't check you're an 'account creator'. If that's normal then that's fine - I'll take the afternoon off :) Cheers, Ben (talk) 20:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response - you can create accounts from Uni if you get the IP block exempt flag. I granted this to another user a week or two ago, if you want this flag, either wait for me to get a free moment, which doesn't look likely for a while, or ask another admin to give you the flag. If you do this, point to [1], and make sure the admin understands why this is needed. The 6 accounts/IP/24 hours limit is overridden if you have the accountcreator flag, which also can be set by an admin. This needs to be set independently of the tool, as the two systems are not connected. Generally, the account creator flag is only set when someone hits the 6/ip/24hrs limit. Again, just ask an admin. Again, sorry for my "not-very-available"ness, :-) Stwalkerstertalk ] 23:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Ahh that's no problem, I'm sure I can find someone to help. Thanks again for your time. Cheers, Ben (talk) 20:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

List of Korean War veterans

Would you mind restoring List of Korean War veterans? Thanks. Juzhong (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

  Done :) Stwalkerstertalk ] 23:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)