User talk:Rmhermen/Archive9

A comma here, a turn of phrase there...

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Copyright violation in Bravo Zulu

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Okay, thanks for bringing this to my attention.  slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 18:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Rogue Admin

Please see my User talk:68.110.8.21 and User_talk:Akhilleus#WP:POINT.2C_WP:HOAX.2C_WP:PN.2C_WP:BIAS. Wikipedia seriously needs your help Rmh. Thanks. 68.110.8.21 03:19, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

List of New Testament uncials

Yes, the item is correct. Several manuscripts are in the form of books (codices). In the course of history, sometimes sections of those books are separated from one another, sometimes logically, sometimes for no clear reason. For example, the gospels may have been sent to a scriptorium that was making copies, while the rest of the volume remained at a home location. Other times, manuscripts are divided up to increase sale price, or to protect parts of the work from pillage during war.

In the case of the uncial you asked about, I do not know its history. However, it is authoritatively marked in Novum Testamentum Graece as being the one ms (manuscript). It is probably three sections kept in separate locations. Perhaps one is owned by a library in Paris, another by a museum in New York, and the remaining part in a British library or museum. The numbers were allocated before the relationship between the parts was known. It may have been suspected, but numbers were allocated, so as not to assume a relationship that might not have turned out to be accurate.

I hope that helps. I will try to create an article to cover it at some stage. Cheers. Alastair Haines 13:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

PS I have now fixed things, there is a stub at Uncial 064 and the others redirect to it. Thanks again for your interest. Alastair Haines 07:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:American wine

What an awesome template! Thank you so much for the work you put into it. Once we get the pages going on those red links, this template will be a real asset for the readers. Thanks again! Agne^Cheese/^Wine 00:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Llama Cleanup

Hello. I'm taking on the daunting task of cleaning up the Llama article. I noticed you were the original editor of the article [Here]. At the bottom of the page is a cryptic cite.

Original text scanned in from the 9th (1880) edition of an encyclopedia published in Edinburgh.

Most of the text is still in place and I would like to cite it properly. Can you point me in the right direction? --BlindEagle^{talk~contribs} 16:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

To be clear I did not start that article but was cleaning it up. Much of the edit history from 2001 was lost in software upgrades. The reference is to the Encyclopedia Britannica whose early editions are out of copyright but whose name is trademarked. We avoided using the name back then but now we don't seem to (the 1911 template uses it) Rmhermen 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark FLC

I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your support on the candidacy. I want you to know that I am in the midst of interlinking the articles via some navigational templates and I have started color coding the list according to the templates. I didn't want it to seem like I was sneaking these changes in after you voted so I am notifying you before the nomination closes. Any feedback would be appreciated. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 06:52, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Michigan article assessment

I've been assessing a lot of Michigan articles. Assessing the importance is pretty subjective. I know you do a lot of work on them, so if you have time, can you let me know if you're in agreement with how it's going? Thanks. --Elliskev 16:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Eversmeyer Manor

Eversmeyer Manor is not vandalism. They are a family of Prussian heritage that own a lot of land outside of Leesburg, Va. Please do not remove items you know nothing about.

Maybe Greg's family would like copies of all his juvenile postings mailed to them at 825 Catoctin Cir NE. He doesn't realize that it takes less effort for us to revert his edits than he puts into them.
Jim Dunning | talk 16:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Dude, stop it now

Why did you remove Chester Gap from the list of towns? It's a friggin town in Rappahannock County. Please stop taking out information as you are obviously not bright enough to know any of this information. If you keep doing this, I will report you.

http://www.google.com/maps?q=Chester+Gap,+VA,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

If you are going to remove information, you better do some research first.

If you were bright enough to actually click on Rappahannock County you would have seen that Chester Gap is a town listed on that county's Wiki page. You're the worst editer on this site. You have no credibility. You just go around changing stuff whether you know it's factual or not. Please go do something else with your life.

A very little research on your part would have discovered that Chester Gap is not an incorporated town - which is what the list covers. " five villages, Amissville, Chester Gap, Flint Hill, Sperryville, Woodville, and the Town of Washington have significant historical value"[1] Rmhermen 17:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Rmherman, I wouldn't lose much sleep over this one. Just a vandal— Special:Contributions/216.143.155.35, Special:Contributions/71.252.64.50, Special:Contributions/24.127.62.4, and Special:Contributions/70.174.109.16.
Jim Dunning | talk 17:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes but I did have to track down and update our references on that article since they were renamed and not working. So not all bad. Rmhermen 17:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Someone may want to take a look at post-April contributions for Special:Contributions/71.252.64.8 as well.HaroldPGuy 03:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

William

Hi, you took out a silly addition, but why did you also take out Shakespeare and Gilbert? Have a care! Fayenatic london (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I did it on purpose. Those are not people known as William only and do not belong on the list. Rmhermen 12:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see, thanks. Is that Wikipedia policy on pages where the title is a given name? I see a lot of template:hndis pages listing people with a particular given name, e.g. Zack and Miriam (given name); should they likewise be deleted? The Sara article has a neat link under "See also" to other pages starting with "Sara", but using that doesn't give any info about each person except what's in the title. - Fayenatic london (talk) 12:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Sheep

Hi - your edit, "remove goat from sheep article" - why? The term "goat" is used several times in the article, yet the distinction is never made (bovidae, the goat is closely related to sheep). My contribution added strongly related information. Your comment indicated no reason for the deletion. Please explain. :) Thanks... Gekritzl 01:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

We do not need to define sheep in a goat article. Rmhermen 01:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll agree, thanks. Perhaps some clean-up is needed, as there are references to "goat" in several places that almost indicate they're the same thing. Gekritzl 01:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

No, in fact, they are so different that they cannot interbreed at all (like horse and donkeys do to get mules). Rmhermen 01:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit to Genealogy.

I'm not sure why you vandalized Genealogy, your other edits seem to generally be good. I have reverted your edit, however. Removing links, blanking sections and then repeatedly cut-and-pasting a single paragraph over and over doesn't help the article. ThuranX 04:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what happened there. All I did was remove to overspecific links from a general section. I never even read any of the rest of the article. In fact, I believe I used the section edit so that shouldn't have even been possible. Rmhermen 05:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

List of winners of the Boston Marathon

I've tried to address your concern. Take a look and see if that covers it. If not, let me know. Geraldk 10:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Southeast Michigan

If I've made any errors I will correct them, but population density is one of the very few things that need to be added. We don't need to start taking down information. These pages need to be contiually updated and upgraded. And, just so you know, population density is given in every articles "geography" sections, which takes into account the entire land area to the nearest acre, so it is much, much more accurate than simply taking the density to the nearest tenth of a square mile. --Criticalthinker 21:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

You're misunderstanding. On every page in the "demographics", sometimes the "geography", section population density is listed. This population density is not calculated down to the nearest tenth of a square mile, but down to the nearest acre or so. This information is used on ALL municipal pages, and the information can be found at the census website. --Criticalthinker 00:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

sort WW 2 casualties

Your sort routine includes the total, that is unacceptable. Take a look at the mess created when you do your sort with total line in the middle of the table. Fix it to include only the data NOT the total line--Woogie10w 23:38, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

That is not a problem It is a feature. Really, it should work that way. For instance, say I want to see which countries have a higher than average percent of population loss. I click the sort percent columns and it shows me. Rmhermen 23:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You can't resort back to the original. Cut the total line out of the sort. Think man--Woogie10w 23:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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History of Ultralight Trikes

You wrote in 'Ultralight Trikes' discussion tab: "...in fact, (they) were invented in the U.S. in the 1970s. Rmhermen

I am constantly researching and writting on the history of hang gliders -precursor of the trike- and I am quite interested in any reference, photo or lead to such trike developed in the 70s. Thank you. BatteryIncluded 23:28, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Spaceflight/Anniversaries/August

Hi! At Portal:Spaceflight/Anniversaries/August there's a date given for a Mariner 2 flyby of Venus. Do you happen to remember where you found that info? It doesn't seem to match the Mariner 2 article.... Or am I misunderstanding something? Thanks! (sdsds - talk) 04:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

That would be the launch date (the arrival at Venus date being December 14, 1962). I'll change the entry. Rmhermen 04:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Removal of matrial in space fatalities

You might want to check the diff on your recent edit, I think you may have changed more than you wanted to. Maury 21:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

My change merely completed the changes to that page that removed most of the details from every incident in the table. Why one single incident was left unchanged I don't know. Rmhermen 21:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

No, one entire entry was removed. Maury 01:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

No, the entry was already in the table. I just removed the details and moved the reference into the table. Rmhermen 02:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see, sorry for the confusion. Maury 13:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The Rocky Horror Picture Show

You are listed as one of the earliest editors of this article that still maintains their membership. I invite you to visit the peer review for the current article here.--Amadscientist 08:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Early human rocket flight efforts

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Early human rocket flight efforts --Philip Baird Shearer 15:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Minor

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		Ahh, a sigh of relief from IvoShandor to Rmhermen, thanks for your work on articles related to the Black Hawk War. IvoShandor 05:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Your confusion about the word "American"

IMO your latest reversion does not fit into Wikipedia. Argentinos, Chilenos, Bolivianos are Americans too. The article refers to US-Americans. [2] NoGringo 12:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

No, American means citizen of the United States. You are referring to South Americans. See also American (word). Rmhermen 14:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Camping Cosmos

hey, could you please tell me how to improve "Camping Cosmos", what is wrong with the style or tone? Karel leermans 17:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Karel Leermans

Lines like "Is there any hope for a better life on this planet at the camping?" are unattributed opinions. And phrases like "this colorful camping" are not correct English. What is "a camping"? A campground, someone acting camp? See designated "good articles" like Pan's Labyrinth and compare their style of writing. Rmhermen 18:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

hey, thanks for your answer, Karel leermans 12:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)karel leermans

Wikipedia help desk redirect

Restoring the Wikipedia help desk redirect was not unreasonable, although (so far as I can tell) that material exists in the actual WP:HD archives (and I was alerted to the fact that if it was duplicated by a cut-and-paste move, the GFDL might require preservation of the edit history) but it clearly does not belong in article space. Please move it to somewhere plausible in the project namespace, and those interested can decide whether it does in fact need to be kept, and if so in what form, via MfD, the WP:VP, or similar. Thanks, MCB 05:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. This meets several of the why not to delete redirects criteria. And no consensus for deleting cross-namespace redirects exists. They aren't hurting anything. Rmhermen 11:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you missed the point of my posting. What is it that you are trying to preserve? If it's the page history and/or original content, the page should be moved to somewhere in the project namespace. It's not an article. Preserving it as a redirect in the article namespace makes no sense at all, since it makes the original, historical contents inaccessible except to people who rummage through the edit history. --MCB 18:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Complication with a Commons move

Recently I uploaded to the Commmons this picture, which I had originally taken, as part of my ongoing effort to move all my old Commons-eligible images over there. I was about to tag it {{ncd}}, and delete the original, but then I noticed you had uploaded a lower-res version (why? FUC? Just to save server space?), so it's not a bit-for-bit copy.

I am a bit unsure how to proceed now. Should we jointly request the low-res version be deleted as the authors? Is it OK for me to delete it if you don't object? Or are there some copyright issues? (I can't see how, since the brand isn't shown. All the intellectual property visible is trade dress, which we usually consider to be freely photographable (otherwise you couldn't depict, say, the interior of a McDonald's). Can you let me know? Daniel Case 14:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I edited the picture to straigthen the slant of the words, which meant cutting some of the white space. Thus a smaller picture. I would prefer the edited version moved to Commons and then delete the one here. Rmhermen 15:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Ahmed_al-Ghamdi.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Ahmed_al-Ghamdi.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. OsamaK 20:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

No problems. Rmhermen 00:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Lake Michigan wine region namechange

I have proposed moving the Lake Michigan wine region article to Lake Michigan AVA to conform to the majority naming conventions for other AVA's around the country. You created the page, so I wanted to make sure I solicited your opinion. VirginiaProp 17:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

That would be Lake Michigan Shore but I have no problem with the move. Rmhermen 17:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

My bad! You're right. Lake Michigan Shore AVA is the correct proposed name change. VirginiaProp 17:16, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Cathedral

I observe from your page that you are an admin, so maybe you know more about this than I do.

I add photo acknowledgements specifically to those photos that state within their Wikimedia commons license that they require acknowledgement within the vicinity of the photo. I do not acknowledge photos other than those who are so licensed. On the occasions that I upload my own photos and license them for use with acknowledgement (only those of intrinsic value as a photographic artwork require this, most of them do not) then I expect to be so acknowledged.

Have I got this all wrong, or am I correct in presuming that those who say they want acknowledgement actually mean it? Check out [3] for example of the sort of quality that we have access to provided we acknowledge the artist. Amandajm 02:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia_talk:Images#Image_attribution which discusses this. We generally use the image page text as the required attribution. The only exception I have noticed is the copyrighted Image:TrangBang.jpg. Rmhermen 03:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

re: However

I will have to be more careful with my edit messages in the future. You're right, "however" is a conjunction. But it is not a conjunction in the same sense as "but". Saying "some of the occupants made their way upward, however no rescue plan existed..." is incorrect.

Since you are apparently even better at grammar nitpicking than I, perhaps you can help me rid Wikipedia of this ubiquitous error.

Graue 06:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Image:Mich.png listed for deletion

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not my edit at West Nile Virus - sock puppetry?

Dear Rmhermen,

Thanks Rmhermen for pointing out that there was a bad edit made at WNV using my old user name. I wasn't editing on that day and I have never worked on that article. See my contribution list [4]. I did however change my user name from Jasu to the current. Maybe this change is related to this incidence which seems like an act of sock puppetry. Can you explain how this strange edit was done and how it can be prevented in the future?

Jakob Suckale 15:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of British and United States military ranks compared

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List of Governors of Puerto Rico‎

Hello, I am working with this article and noticed that you opposed this list's nomination, the reason that only three of the governors of the Spanish colonial period are linked is because only those three have a article currently, actually all of the governors in this sections were linked when I started working with the list (see here) but the red links were removed for estetic purpouse, if you think that the links are still needed I will gladly add them back. But I just though you should know the reason why they aren't linked. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Rivers Project

Dear Rmhermen,

I am a participant in the Wikiproject Rivers. I have started compiling a list of European rivers, starting with the rivers in Romania. Actually the same information is included in the ro:wiki and the appropriate links are indicated. What I am trying to do at present is to gather the information about the river network and indicate these links so that any interested user can find the rivers of the network using this link. I would also stress that I am administrator of ro:wiki.

In this exercise I have followed the rules established for the Wikiproject Rivers, and specifically that there are no notability limits for rivers (as there are none for other geographic features). This has been stated in the discussion of wikiproject Rivers. You have yourself contributed to this discussion and there were no objection to this rule from any participants in the project.

I have recently received messages from various contributors, who have marked some of my contributions for speedy deletion, to which I have objected. I find is completely stupid to delete a few rivers and to accept thousands of others meeting the same criteria. As the articles submitted have broken no rules, I consider such repeated interventions and the refusal to accept the project rules as a form of vandalism.

I would kindly request your advice on how to handle the situation and how to stop such interventions from reoccurring. I would request the permission to delete the speedy deletion tags.

SincerelyAfil 00:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Tunguska

The source gives a few different models, which predict radii from 22 to 34 meters. The Tunguska article has estimates as low as 60 meters in diameter - i.e. 30 meters in radius, and it is the same source I use. Cheers, WilyD 17:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Rmhermen 17:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

FLC discussion continued

The discussion you participated in continues at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of basic geography topics. The Transhumanist 04:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

List of films that received the Golden Film

Thank you for your comment to FLC List of films that received the Golden Film, I have posted a reply. – Ilse@ 11:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

History of Greenland

I've nominated History of Greenland for featured article review. Haukur 23:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Los Cerritos Ranch House

HABS = Historic American Buildings Survey. Thanks for noting use of that acronym, and NPS, in the article. Those acronyms should not be used without a wikilink or explanation. Thanks, doncram (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Patrick Cox

Hello, I noticed you made a minor change to the Patrick Cox article that I have started working on. I've now 'finished' the article it as best as I can, so I was hoping you could take a lot at it and my comments on the discussion page and give me some feeback if you have time. Thanks, Crazy-dancing (talk) 04:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Amish school shooting

An article that you have been involved in editing, Amish school shooting, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amish school shooting. Thank you. A. B. ^(talk) 22:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Friends of the Mount Holyoke Range

See the talk page for reasons why this stub shoudl remain. --Pgagnon999 (talk) 18:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Huh?

Hey Rmhermen. Could I ask why you've removed the content of one of the pages I've been editing? It may be a problem on my end, but it seems you've undone all the edits I've done. I'd be happy to discuss this on my talk page. Thanks. — Rudget _{Contributions} 16:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Good question. All I did was re-add the orphan tag. Not sure why the random sections got erased but I have had it happen at least twice before. Possibly an Internet Explorer problem on my end? Rmhermen (talk) 16:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, maybe. Thanks for replying anyway. Best, — Rudget _{Contributions} 17:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Pheasant article

It looks like you may have created an article now located at Common Pheasant. I say this because of this version. Do you remember the title you gave it? Or the title it had originally? (Ring necked pheasant, pheasant, or common pheasant). Thanks. TableManners (talk) 02:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I would have to say that I was not the original author. But it looks like it was under "Ringnecked pheasant" at the time. (11:53, May 2, 2003 Tannin (Talk | contribs | block) (moved to "Ringnecked_Pheasant") Rmhermen (talk) 04:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Franz Josef Strauß

Might I ask you to take a look at the new discussion going on at Franz Josef Strauß? Yes, it is an ancient topic (the use of ß on en-wiki), but this is one of the most prominent articles in which this issue is of significance. Given your experience, your input would be very much appreciated. Unschool (talk) 01:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Northern Michigan

Dear Rmhermen:

I appreciate your editing of this article. However, you eliminated the following as "irrelevant."

- The geographical theme of this region is shaped by the fact that it is part of greater Michigan, which has:

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• 58,110 square miles (150,500 km²) of land.

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• 1,305 square miles (3,380 km²) of inland water.

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• 38,575 square miles (99,910 km²) of Great Lakes water area.

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• 3,288 miles (5,292 km) of Great Lakes shoreline.

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• 11,037 inland lakes.

Of course, we could disagree on what is or is not relevant. I think we should err on the side of relevancy, if it tends to prove a fact at issue. The topography of Michigan is distinctly relevant. Until you have a set of statistics that is limited to Northern Michigan, I think this is informative and useful to the readers.

Consequently, I think you should reconsider this portion of your edit.

Happy holiday. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk)Stan

This is irrelevant to an article on Northern Michigan because it is describing the entire state - even worse it is misleading in that article. Rmhermen (talk) 01:07, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I've commented "sqkm" out in the above since it's soon to be deleted.

WP:LOTD

Congratulations!!!! List of spacewalks and moonwalks has been selected to be a February WP:LOTD. If you have any particular date preferences please contact me by January 24th.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

The February LOTD schedule is up at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 16:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Research guide

I am working with a different administrator to put this template in a discussion forum. Please remove it from the deletion list.Shannon bohle (talk) 06:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I find this request disingenuous as you continue to add the template to articles in the meantime. Also I am not pleased with your assumptions about me on your talk page. Remember that all our actions here are permamently and easily visible. If you want to learn about my editing habits, just investigate the "User contributions" link. Rmhermen (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Space missions WikiProject

Hi, I noticed that you are a member of the Space missions WikiProject. A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that the Space missions and Space travellers projects, which both appear to be inactive be merged into the Human Spaceflight project. Whilst this is being done, the capitalisation of the Human spaceflight project's title would also be corrected (ie. Human Spaceflight → Human spaceflight). The projects are all doing the same/very similar things, and in my opinion, a single, larger, project would be more effective than three smaller, and somewhat inactive projects.. In light of very little response to messages on the project talk pages, I am now sending this message to all members of all three projects, inviting them to discuss the proposal on the Human Spaceflight project's talk page. I would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks. --GW_Simulations_{User Page | Talk} 21:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

British and American losses attacking Dresden

FYI please see Talk:Bombing of Dresden in World War II#British/American losses --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 17:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate Image:Population curve.png

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Lava pillars copyright

Thanks - I've learned something: having re-read WP:C (which only mentions US Govt photographs) and WP:COPYVIO, I've found it under WP:PD. Two questions:

a) that website says nothing about being US Government (no, checking again, it does if you click on a little icon at top right; but it's not obvious) - is the rule of thumb that any website ending ".gov" is US Govt and the contents therefore public domain?

b) is no acknowledgment required when copying from such a site?

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

NOAA is a branch of the U.S. government (and while all U.S. government sites are .gov, I think other country's websites use .gov endings as well - and are not copyright free) Acknowledgment is "best practice" (avoids the plagarism issue). In fact we have some templates for things often copied from like {{Template:1911}}. Rmhermen (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Voskhod2.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Voskhod2.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 03:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is an example of the worst of Wikipedia practice. Someone adds a tittle to a form - then instead of making the change themselves tries to track down thousands of contributors (many of course no longer present) to force them into compliance with your newest regime. I cannot count the number of times I have been asked to relicense or reformat photo pages. It is perfectly valid as it is. And as it was. If you feel the need to change it yet again, feel free to do so yourself. However stop removing valid and important Wikipedia information. Rmhermen (talk) 14:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Mississippi Barnstar
		On May 29, 2001, you created the State of Mississippi article. I hereby award you the The Mississippi Barnstar for this creation! Thank you! - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 07:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Hamza_al-Ghamdi.jpg

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Dark Age of Camelot Wiki article

What is the meaning of deleting the Campaign information for "A Dragons Revenge"? Number4wy (talk) 03:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

That information is copyright of the Mythic corporation - you do not own it so you cannot donate it here. Also it does not follow our style guidelines. Rmhermen (talk) 15:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

It may not be owned, however all of it is cited. In addition all content withing Wikipedia is already someone else's information and is only brought into one source. This content can be found everywhere on multiple site, all across the web. Citations are the key. And all information was cited correctly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.72.145.242 (talk) 15:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Nope. It is copyright of Mythic. It does not matter that others may be stealing it. Also you did not follow correct procedure to make a small sourced quotation either. Most material on Wikipedia is actually specifically written for this site by volunteers, not simply copied from somewhere else. Rmhermen (talk) 21:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Dan Wesson

Hallo Rmhermen !

Just to enter a single content page here, not knowning the system surrounding, causes failures - so i have learned by experience. To improve content professional, i need some help. I spend days & hours in research for my article group, writing them down and learning Wiki (still in progress). These articles are going to be my donation to Wikipedia.

Backwards i really like to have some support in doing this in the right way. Please help me joining the right usergroups to be embedded helpful. The articlegroup i am working is tagged: german, english, firearms, handguns, semi-automatic pistols, revolver, Dan Wesson: name for person, company, products, historic, uptodate.

I consider to work at:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/de
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Illustration
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms

Where to go? which: Wiki Projects Portals ? see my tagged list.

In germany i work with our portal:waffen. Please introduct me (and keep and eye on me) to the correct groups i should interwork with (pls. compare User:Drva1226). I just want to make a good production without struggling around or with a complaint here and there. That steals my and Wiki's time and just spreads fustration around.

Just to have an idea, about my project compare Smith & Wesson and please look at my /Sandbox. The links in there are going deep.

Many thanks in advance Tom

P.S. I'm 50 years - if i hadnot learend programming in the 70th i would not be able to handle the scripts without tool.

--Dan Wesson (talk) 21:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Marshall field interior.jpg

Can you add a source to Image:Marshall field interior.jpg. Current standards require PD images to contain a source. Please respond at my talk page or I will lose track of this request.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 20:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:LOTD

Congratulations! A list you have been involved with was selected a WP:LOTD for May. You may want to add the {{ListoftheDayheader}} or {{ListoftheDaylayout}} templates somewhere in your userspace. Other template options are at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/templates. Your list will appear as WP:LOTD twice. If you have any date preferences in May let me know by April 25th.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

for your stream of edits to sheep breed stubs. I strongly concur that those see also links were totally redundant. Nice work! I'm glad to see someone else interested in making some improvements to that class of article, they often get neglected. Best regards, VanTucky 05:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Graphics Lab request

please see this-- CD 12:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Detroit Red Wings head coaches

The color and the asterisks should stay per WP:COLORS. Also, Jacques Demers is shown on the table as coaching the Red Wings. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 22:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Jacques Demers was born in 1944. Tommy Ivan started coaching in 1947. Demers did not coach when he was 3 years old... ANd he is already on the table. See coach #23.« Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 22:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I see the problem - I copypasted the wrong name. I was referring to Jack Adams. Rmhermen (talk) 23:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

That tells a lot :) Done. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 00:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Metrication caption

Understood. I get your point in Metrication in the United States about the caption. I had thought the front/right-handed wording was extra, unneeded info. Take it easy. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Emma Hunton

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Emma Hunton,. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. —  MusicMaker5376 18:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello to you too. I did intend to remove the tag and I am an administrator (see my user page). I do not believe that this meets the speedy deletion guidelines, although I admit they are rather vague. How much of a career do you expect a 16-year-old actress to have before they become notable? I would go for a quite low standard. Rmhermen (talk) 18:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

My apologies.

However, I expect everyone who has an article in WP to pass notability standards, regardless of age. She does not pass WP:ENTERTAINER -- she does not have "multiple" roles to her credit. —  MusicMaker5376 18:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Spring Awakening, The Drew Carey Show, Angel, Chicken Soup for the Soul, Judging Amy, Happy Endings, Distracted - granted most of these were one episode each of television shows but it seems "multiple" to me. However, I doubt I would go to any lengths to defend it if you took it to AFD. Rmhermen (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Blacklisting

When I Googled part of the main body of the original text, it came back as part of a Myspace page. When I attempted to add a G12 notice along with the Myspace link, the system gave me a warning notice saying the site was blacklisted. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks as if Myspace itself is blacklisted. I found the link, but the system won't let me post it. Here's the text I googled:

"Born in Seoul, South Korea, Denyce was the middle child of three, living a military life with her family abroad in such countries as Korea, Japan, and Germany. Her family moved around the US, living primarily in New Jersey then in Washington D.C. where she" --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:11, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

• I agree it was a copyright violation and did speedy delete it. I was just trying to determine the blacklist bit. Rmhermen (talk) 19:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Emma Hunton

I'm wondering if you might clarify your position on the article. I accept that speedy may not have been the correct option, but I'm still confused as to your stance. You removed the {{prod}}, which indicates to me that you'd like to see the article kept, but you've also nominated it for deletion. It was sort of a proxy nom, but it might help for whomever closes the debate for you to clarify your position. Thanks! —  MusicMaker5376 21:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Westover ARB

Reading the site on how to do it, it seemed like that was discouraged. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

If you are splitting the page you will have to copy/paste some part of the content whichever way you do it. Rmhermen (talk) 00:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not, I'm moving the page because I split the page and one half already has a page and the redirect is the destination for the second half. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for doing so. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Finnieston station → Exhibition Centre railway station

I note you removed the CSD template from the redirect on Finnieston station. Please note that Finnieston station was on the Glasgow City and District Railway, now closed. Stobcross railway station was named Finnieston for around 8 years after the opening of the Argyle Line before being called Exhibition Centre railway station. There is an article Finnieston railway station for the original station. Both articles have a header to identify the possible confusion. --Stewart ^(talk) 08:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Now listed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 May 30. --Stewart ^(talk) 12:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

This is clearly not WP:Patent nonsense which you indicated as your speedy deletion criteria. That only covers jibberish, etc. Rmhermen (talk) 13:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I took the best CSD template I thought fitted, however there does not appear to be a CSD criteria for this case, consequently speedly delete does probably not apply. Thanks --Stewart ^(talk) 13:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, this is now closed. A disambig page has been created. --Stewart ^(talk) 07:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Capital punishment

Yes. The military penal code was annuled in 2007, so the argentine law has been changed. Now the death penalty is totally abolished in Argentina. (I though I had put the reference in the article. I'm checking it right now) Greetings. --Ojota (talk) 02:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is the referenceNewspaper article (in Spanish)

Punjabi people

Hi, can you please explain why you removed the image of the old man from Hindustan from the Punjabi people's article? I suggest you leave it alone until a consesus is made at Talk:Punjabi people. This is fair, don't you think?--119.30.67.250 (talk) 18:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Please stop this misleading editing. The image is clearly labeled Pathan from an article titled "Through The Heart of Hindustan: A Teeming Highway Extending for Fifteen Hundred Miles, from the Khyber Pass to Calcutta". Obviously this does not refer to India as the specific modern conception but to an older less specific and much larger concept of the term "Hindustan". Rmhermen (talk) 19:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Can you please be nice? I'm having a civil discussion but you're trying to be rude and falesly accusing me of something. I'm not misleading editing. Hindustan (meaning land of the Hindus) has always been the other name of India. The title "Old Pathan 1921" was given to the file by the uploader, usually an uploader can give any name to a file and it doesn't mean it's accurate or it be used as evidence. There is no such evidence to indicate where exactly this photo was shot. It could have been shot at a place in what is now Pakistan or in what is now India. The word "Pathan" refers to "Punjabi Pathan", which is a group of people who practice Punjabi culture. See Hindkowans Putting this photo in the Punjabi people article is not misleading. You sound like you probably don't know about the different ethnic groups of South Asia. I'm an expert on the people of this reagion and that is a Punjabi-speaking man.--119.30.77.149 (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello,

Just thought I'd say I completely disagree with the above comments made by the IP contributor, who also seems to be making controversial edits under various ips 119.30.77.149, 119.30.69.250, 119.30.76.138. If possible could I ask that you give your opinion on the North-West Frontier Province article, I do not wish to be caught in an edit war. Regards Pahari Sahib 00:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism on NWFP by User:Pahari Sahib

User:Pahari Sahib is removing well sourced content that I've added and putting false misleading information back in. [5] He accuses me of his bad actions. I clearly explained to him that there are no 3 million Afghan refugees in NWFP but he re-adds it. I explained to him that according to the Government of Pakistan, there are only about 2 million Afghan refugees in entire Pakistan and not all of them live in NWFP. See (NADRA) Has Registered 2.15 Million Afghan Refugees NADRA is Pakistan's federal government. The vandal also removed an important reference from Encyclopedia Britannica that confirms and mentions that the Afghan refugees are not counted in Pakistan's population count.--119.30.77.149 (talk) 00:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Jian River

Thanks for your message. The link that translates Jian River as 剑河 is just an online forum and is not reliable. No reliable source refers to this river as 剑河. Most of Chinese reliable sources call it 湔江. But there are still many reliable Chinese sources calling it 涧河. By Google Search, there are 63,000 hits for "唐家山堰塞湖" + "湔江", and 1,500 for "唐家山堰塞湖" + "涧河". I have added a footnote to Jian River for this naming puzzle. I am also confused about it. Probably this river has two names? Many backgrounds of Tangjiashan Lake are still unclear, especially about Tangjiashan. I searched a lot of webpages, but cannot find much useful information about the mountain (if it's really a mountain). --Neo-Jay (talk) 19:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Tongkou River's Chinese name is 通口河. Its headwater stream is Jian River. See, e.g., this news report by Xinhua News Agency. I have added this information to Jian River. Thanks for your reminding. --Neo-Jay (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Old Punjabi man's image

Can you also please remove the same image from Pashtun people article until an agreement is reached on its talk page? Otherwise it's unfair and we gonna have to re-add the image that you took out back into the Punjabi people article.--119.30.75.34 (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

License for Image:Fairlane Estate.jpg

Your Image:Fairlane Estate.jpg

Move to commons representation

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You also chose a license tag which adds disclaimers to the GFDL. As explained at Wikipedia:GFDL standardization, these disclaimers cause certain re-use problems that make the GFDL less free than it could be.

Before I copy this image to the Commons, I wanted to ask whether you would be willing to remove the disclaimers from your GFDL tag. No one other than you may legally alter the license. If you do choose to modify the license on this image, I respectfully recommend any of the following best-practices license tags:

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Thanks! --Ipoellet (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your consideration of this request. I've gone ahead and copied the image over to the Commons under the filename Image:Fair Lane Estate - Dearborn Michigan.jpg, and the Wikipedia instance of the file should be deleted in a few days. If in the future you should choose to modify the license at all, please remember to do so over at the Commons. Thanks! --Ipoellet (talk) 19:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Amdana dowler talk page

There are no live issues here the issues have gone stale and have not been commented on since the end of February. A blank page is a good thing to stimulate new discussions on the article if any, I cannot see the point of undoing the archive with no good reasoning. Archiving is not opposed by any of the main contributors and the revertions seem wholy pointless. Please can you explain your side of this.--Lucy-marie (talk) 01:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

On a related point G6 criteria cannot be used as the deletion of these is controvertial, as I oppose the deletion and support the archiving.--Lucy-marie (talk) 01:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

"blank page is a good thing to stimulate new discussions on the article" - no it isn't. A blank page seems to be a way to hide problems or deceive the reader. The talk page is far far to short to require archiving and the last comment on the page is not responded to. Rmhermen (talk) 14:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a very low hits article which has remained stable for a long time. If you believe there is a problem with the arhiving why not initiate a discusion first rather than being bold, after the edits you made were undone. I also disagree that this page is too short to archive. There is no deception occuring here, it is simply moving old discussions to a seperate place away from the main page that is easily accesible from the main page. If you believe you can addres the concern of the issue raised please do, but the user has not pushed thir point. I am now initating a DRV on the pages you deleted.--Lucy-marie (talk) 09:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Murder of Amanda Dowler/Archive 1

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Murder of Amanda Dowler/Archive 1. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy-marie (talk • contribs) 10:07, June 7, 2008

Deletion review for Murder of Amanda Dowler/Archives

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Murder of Amanda Dowler/Archives. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucy-marie (talk • contribs) 10:07, June 7, 2008

"Unequal"

Then what does "tuning systems" mean

It is now well-accepted that of the two primary tuning systems in gamelan music, slendro and pelog, only slendro somewhat resembles five-tone equal temperament while pelog is highly unequal; however, Surjodiningrat et al. (1972) has analyzed pelog as a seven-note subset of nine-tone equal temperament.

— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament#5_and_7_tone_temperaments_in_ethnomusicology

?68.148.164.166 (talk) 20:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Ojibway

There is a problem with the lead for this article.

"Ojibwa who subsequently moved to the prairie provinces of Canada have retained the name Saulteaux. The major component group of the Anishinaabe, in the U.S. they number over 100,000 living in an area stretching across the north from Michigan to Montana. Another 76,000, in 125 bands, live in Canada, stretching from western Québec to eastern British Columbia."

At first I thought a vandal had erased some words from the second sentence shown but I didn't find that. Is it even fair to say "the major group" for what seems to be close to a 50/50 split? Any ideas on how this should be phrased? Rmhermen (talk) 16:30, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, I don't see a problem. The Ojibwa are a major component of the Anishinaabe peoples, but not all Anishinaabeg are Ojibwa. Of the Ojibwa, yes, they are relatively 50/50 between Canada and the US. As the term Anishinaabe is not identical to Ojibwa, maybe a clarifying words should be added. CJLippert (talk) 17:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Does the article lead read easier for you now? CJLippert (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that is much better. I would not have guessed that that was the intended meaning at all so it is a good thing I didn't try to clear it up myself. 18:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

skewered food

A kebab is not synonymous with skewered food, it is part of the skewered or spit-cooked food category. Using the category instead of a separate list in each article makes it possible to have a consistent list referenced from every article in the category. If you want to create a content-rich list that's fine - see [[6]] for why that's better. FiveRings (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You have missed my point which is that all kebab is not skewered. And "categories do not replace lists". Rmhermen (talk) 17:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, some kebab is skewered, some is spit-cooked, and some is grilled. This doesn't negate my point. There is already a list of kebabs, as a separate article. FiveRings (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The listed dishes are not kebabs but similar dishes in other cuisines. Rmhermen (talk) 17:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know. They are "skewered foods". Some are probably also (or only) "marinated meat dishes", which should probably also be a category. I'll go edit the first item in the list, so you can understand what mean about content versus collection. FiveRings (talk) 18:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding racist abuses and POV by editor

Well, it has been repeatedly brought to the notice of the administrators that a particular user from Pakistan, through a set of anonymous IPs has been indulging in personal abuses, POV pushing and racism against India.(Ask any Indian editor what this slur in particular means) However, I observe that nothing has been done to this regard. Moreover, this last edit by the same editor clearly indicates that the user is unrelentive and gives the impression that the admninistrators are acting partisan in this regard. This is a very serious issue and may have far-reaching consequences. If this editor is allowed to continue uttering his venomous racist nonsense then I may have to escalate this matter.

Ravichandar84, this is the talk page to discuss things relating to the Pashtun people article. If you have issues with a user over his/her's behaviour you should take it to administrator notice board. Several administrators were involved in your/mines incident and they didn't find my actions offensive, I was leaving message on their talk pages and they didn't warn me about any thing.

-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 02:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Jelly

Hi, I noticed that you have changed the jelly wording on the Jelly page. You edit introduces a bit of an issue because of the differences in English dialects. The article goes into detail as to what jelly is and an explanation on the page is unnecessary. Additionally, the term jelly is often used in North America to refer to all forms of fruit preserves, not just the clear, filtered form. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 18:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it is the other way around and that your edit introduced the ambiguity as "fruit preserves" are not normally thought of as jelly in American English. This language has been in the disambig page for quite a while before I tried to clear up the misplaced reference to jam. The explanation is inline with all the other and necessary explanations on the other items on the page. Rmhermen (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really:

• Gelatin dessert, referred to as jelly in Commonwealth English

--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 20:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Native Americans in the United States

I put a prose contrib into Talk:Native Americans in the United States/Tribes, and subordinated it into the secn it originally arose from. If it's still confusing, i hope you'll ask me a specific question. Thanks for your attention and concern, which has been helpful to me seeing a path twd making it likely to be useful.
--Jerzy•t 21:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

TronixCountry Censorship

Welcome to Wikipedia. I notice that you removed content from a Wikipedia article. However, Wikipedia is not censored to remove content that might be considered objectionable. Please do not remove or censor information that is relevant to the article. You have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide images that you may find offensive. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. - See my talk page. I had less than 9 hrs. If you could please restore, thanks. --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 15:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

This deletion has nothing to do with censorship as you claimed but with following the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) guidelines. We suggest that you complete an article as well as you can before first posting it. More complex articles can be assembled at a subpage of your user page and then moved into the article namespace. If you disagree with the deletion, you can request undeletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Rmhermen (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Your deletion was in violation of policy. Notability is not the bar for a speedy deletion, as discussed on the DR. Why don't you just admit it and apologize? --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

A claim of notability is a speedy deletion criteria (Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion) and the deletion was endorsed at Deletion Review (Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 July 10) with only yourself arguing against it. I don't think I need say anything further. Rmhermen (talk) 13:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, indeed; the quote there from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSD#A7 that is bold shows you violated policy. It seems you believe in WP:IAR.--IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 21:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It is clear that that is your interpretation. However your view was not supported at the Deletion review. Rmhermen (talk) 21:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

state owned companies

The ones I had in mind were the state owned oil companies - there are numerous national oil companies that are bigger than ExxonMobil (the largest publicly traded company), the largest being Aramco. I don't know for a fact that other government owned companies are in the top 5, but I'm pretty sure some of them are. TastyCakes (talk) 22:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You're correct in that the Fortune 500 lists all companies (private and publicly traded) that publicly releases their revenues, but they don't list state owned organizations, either because they don't release the data or they just don't consider them... (not sure) TastyCakes (talk) 22:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm I don't see a revenue listed in the Aramco article... TastyCakes (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, at the bottom there. Well I guess I'm wrong then... By revenues anyway, although it seems they don't officially release their financial data so I guess we're trusting the report cited... I am quite surprised, I totally thought they had higher revenues than Exxon. 03:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

WP Rivers

According to Category "WikiProject Rivers participants", YOU are NOT a member?

I "joined" WP Rivers several months ago when I started updating Alaskan river information; I updated the Susitna river and several other Alaska rivers going back to at least early February. Elsewhere, I make some river updates when I am working on inter-related articles (for instance the river valleys draining into Lake Erie in Northern Ohio).

Yes, I did not also post myself on the WP Participants list until I got around to fixing WikiProject Rivers' broken user template: {{User Wikiproject Rivers}} which User:Ruhrfisch had made. What was "broken" with the WP Rivers user template was the Categories - WikiProject Rivers participants and WikiProject usertemplates were missing. A WikiProject user template and the relevant category are the "standard" way WikiProjects and Users are linked.

Unfortunately, I had run across several instances where Wikipedia article contributors were "clueless" about the issues which I posted:

• using GNIS "official" names
• disambiguation by hydrology unless one is sure one is writing about the only river with that name
• ...

In my Wikipedia experiences, I have mostly run across several authors contributing to or writing "Rivers" articles who are relatively unaware of the issues I posted. Mostly they have been authors writing about a locale, and have little other knowledge of the watershed(s) or hydrology. LeheckaG (talk) 23:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I joined WikiProject Rivers in February of 2004 - long before userboxes or even categories existed. (The category system was added to Wikipedia that year but took a while to get widespread.) I don't feel that those are the normal way to identify project members as opposed to the list of members on the project itself. Rmhermen (talk) 13:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Yowza re Nuni

		The Reference Desk Barnstar
		Better late than never! This barnstar is awarded for your contribution to the amazing collaborative effort that eventually turned up the answer to a very obscure question, Who were the Nuni? Your infomration about the archived papers in Austin helped the process along and added to the collective cleverness that eventually (after weeks of effort) came up with the correct answer. The real joy lies in that success, of course, but this barnstar is awarded to remind you of your part in the triumph.BrainyBabe (talk) 23:13, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Pemones

You posted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indigenous_peoples_of_North_America
"Is anyone aware of a Wikiproject or group working on South America peoples?"
Don't know that one offhand but
"I had a question about the Pemones but couldn't think of anywhere to ask."
- Can sometimes be worthwhile to ask in WikiProjects of relevant countries, or Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anthropology, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Language_families, or the Talk pages of people who have edited Pemon language, or possibly Wikipedia:WikiProject_Linguistics or Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups, if appropriate. Good luck. :-) -- 201.17.36.246 (talk) 22:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

dates

If it weren't such a popular move (or at least one that generates little or no complaint), your view might have traction. In any case, I routinely post to talk pages inviting objections days before proceeding.

This didn't come down in a rain-shower yesterday. It has gradually evolved over more than a year. Tony (talk) 02:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Tony, I've left a comment at your page as well. There's simply no wide-spread consensus for a unilateral removal of the autoformatting, and doing it page-by-page doesn't get around that fact. --Ckatz^chat_spy 09:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ammolite

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Culturally specific illness

Thanks for that. I can never find Culture-bound syndrome when I want it. Now I can! :) 79.66.124.253 (talk) 00:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

vandalism

It is vandalism to delete useful encyclopedic information. If you believe that useful encyclopedic information is better placed in a different article, then be bold and move it. Just deleting it is vandalism. I think that article is a fine place for that data. But you may know of a better article for it. If so wonderful, move it. If you don't have a better place to put it; consider the possibility that you are wrong and that that article is the right place for it. WAS 4.250 (talk) 05:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Just deleting it is not vandalism. Keeping an article on topic is an important part of copyediting. Rmhermen (talk) 13:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Street Gang Edits

The editing regarding the Street Gangs education and safety rules was removed. Could somebody tell me why? MDCCCXLVIII (talk) 00:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

"How to" type material is not allowed on Wikipedia as we have decided that isn't what an encyclopedia is. You could write about gang prevention methods, anti-gang organizations, and community alternates. Sources for such information would also be necessary. Rmhermen (talk) 01:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:CHICAGO

You have been not signed up as an active member of WP:CHICAGO, but you have made at least 25 edits to Chicago. If you consider yourself either an active or semi-active member of the project please sign up as such at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/members. Also, if you are a member, be aware of Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and be advised that the project is now trying to keep all the project's WP:PR, WP:FAC, WP:FAR, WP:GAR, WP:GAC WP:FLC, WP:FLRC, WP:FTC, WP:FPOC, WP:FPC, and WP:AFD discussion pages in one location at the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Review page. Please help add any discussion you are aware of at this location.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hang on just a seconde

Im not trying to be impertinent but I would like to know why my article was deleted while I was in the midst of writing it. I put up the hangon template and explained that I was in the process of adding more to the article. I will acknowledge that from what I had written it might seem like my article was not very important, but I think that you should have given me a little time to correct it. I know this is important and I have seen this thing grow. Please return my article, or barring that, help me to recraft it in a way that would be acceptable Al Exocet (talk) 23:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

The fact that the article was deleted four times in three days by 3 different administrators should indicate that there is a serious problem here. You have presented no claims of notability that would pass WP:N and no actual sources (dead weblinks don't count). Some of your claims are demonstrably incorrect (regarding his Wikipedia edits, for instance) I don't believe I can help you because I don't believe that there is anything encyclopedic here. Rmhermen (talk) 23:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

MyFootballClub membership

Hi there. 12 months membership of MyFootballClub costs £35 (approx. $70) - there are discounts for longer subscriptions. New memberships are welcome anytime - you can sign up at the official site. Come on over and help us conquer the footballing world! Cheers! sparkl_!sm ^hey! 13:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Ec-waterblob.jpg

You tagged the above image with {{PUI}} but never actually started the discussion. Just thought I'd let you know. J Milburn (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I am trying to get the uploader to send OTRS permission at their talk page. Rmhermen (talk) 15:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Olympics highlights

I respectfully request that you self-revert to remove this - the reason for being speedy kept on both occasions is that it was linked off this template, rather than any judgement on the article. Its current inclusion is preventing discussion on the merits of the article from occuring (which is why it was removed a couple of hours ago). Brilliantine (talk) 23:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

No thank you. I thin k it belongs there and that the discussion over whether ity belongs should occur on the In the News talk page - not be premptively removed after all the work put in to set it up for exactly this purpose. Rmhermen (talk) 23:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

But this is causing a circular argument: AFD closed cause it links from the main page -> removed ->put back because AFD was closed. It does not make logical sense. As you can see, I have been attempting to discuss this on the talk page, but there is rather a dearth of people do discuss it there with. I have no objection to it remaining on the template should it properly pass AFD, but as the situation stands, process is causing a stalemate. Brilliantine (talk) 23:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Community forum

I picked the wrong term. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 18:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

The Guardian building

Someone made another image edit in your request about the image of the guardian building front. Can you look and reply if it's good/bad, what else is needed, etc? Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured list removal candidates/Timeline of first orbital launches by country

Hi, unfortunately the list Timeline of first orbital launches by country which you nominated for featured list status does not, in my opinion, satisfy the featured list criteria anymore. Edit creep, and tightened standards for featured lists are the reasons, I think. See Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Timeline of first orbital launches by country for the discussion. Голубое сало/Blue Salo (talk) 05:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:US execution methods.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:US execution methods.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. - AWeenieMan (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

State vs. federal waters

Thanks for your assistance on the reference desk! Your answer was most enlightening. -- Beland (talk) 02:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)