User talk:Qcne/Archives/2023/August

A cookie for you!

Welcome back! Thanks for helping out at the AfC help desk and elsewhere! S0091 (talk) 14:11, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Qcne (talk) 14:15, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Boukari Laouali

Hello, I just saw your tag, I added sources that can prove notoriety, can you check and fix the problem please? Wikipedien28 (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Wikipedien28. Your sources do not seem to be Wikipedia:Independent sources of the subject. They are mostly promotional interviews for his books. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (people) for details of what Wikipedia requires for articles about living people.

Finally, as the article only has one line it is not suitable at this time. Please read Wikipedia:Stub. Qcne (talk) 18:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Saeed Kashani

Hello Qcne. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Saeed Kashani, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Playing field hockey internationally for Pakistan is enough to pass A7. Thank you. BangJan1999 20:44, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi @BangJan1999. The article has zero references. Therefore it cannot pass the Wikipedia:Notability (sports) threshold. To summarise:

- Reliable Sources: Your article should rely on strong, reliable sources. These sources should be independent of the subject (not self-published or from the subject's own website) and published by reputable institutions. Primary sources can be used for basic facts, but they should be supplemented with strong secondary sources that offer analysis or interpretation.

- Significant Coverage: Your subject should be discussed in detail in the sources you find. A brief mention is not usually enough to establish notability. The sources should provide in-depth information about the subject, going beyond basic facts or promotional material.

- Multiple Sources: You should find at least three strong, reliable sources that discuss your subject. If all of your information comes from a single source, it may not be enough to demonstrate that the subject is notable.

As your current article has zero references or sources it is not suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 21:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

If source of Article is in the form of Journal like INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF SCIENCE & RSEARCH, IIFJMR ETC

Then will it work ? Drxhemant (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi

hi Thandokuhle London Mali 23 (talk) 14:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Thandokuhle London Mali 23, please do not edit my User page as you did a few moments ago. Qcne (talk) 14:44, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks damn Thandokuhle London Mali 23 (talk) 14:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Decline / reject before tagging for speedy deletion

Hi Qcne, thanks for all you're doing. A little request - when you speedy a draft, could you decline or reject it first, to remove it from the AfC queue? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Hiya @Curb Safe Charmer.. I'm not a AfC reviewer so don't have that capability.. is my speedy tags clogging up and causing issues? should I only be using Suresh speedy for mainspace? Qcne (talk) 11:26, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I had assumed you were a reviewer. No, it doesn't cause much of an issue, it is just that reviewers will go to review a draft only to find that it has already been deemed inappropriate and tagged accordingly. If it had been declined as promotional before tagging as G11, then it would no longer be in the queue.

Perhaps think about joining AfC as a reviewer? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, hadn't realised that side effect. Will look into joining AfC :) Qcne (talk) 11:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Sorry for my mixup about your User page. Ten years on Wikipedia and I still have to double-check myself! Thanks for being a good sport. Liz Read! Talk! 04:27, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Note

Hey, Qcne,

Thanks for interacting with new editors who might not understand how editing on Wikipedia works. But if they have already received one Welcome message, they really don't need two. You might consider posting an invitation to the Teahouse. I can find that under the More tab on my laptop. Thanks and I hope you are having a good weekend. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:08, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

You're right, thank you for the advice. Qcne (talk) 09:33, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Umbiginus advertising??

Im sorry, but how is adding a YouTube series to Wikipedia advertising? I am not advertising for the show or any shape or form, I wanted to just put it on Wikipedia. GraisonVlogs (talk) 21:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi @GraisonVlogs. Unfortunately you do not understand the purpose of Wikipedia: Wikipedia is not a place for any type of self-promotion or advertisement. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia: not an advertising platform, directory, or a way to promote a subject.

All articles on Wikipedia must meet the strict Wikipedia:Notability threshold. Articles which do not meet this are liable to be deleted. I am afraid that your vlog channel does not meet this criteria at this time.

Let me know if you have any questions, Qcne (talk) 09:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Draft:Jeffrey Taliaferro

Hello Qcne, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Jeffrey Taliaferro, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:16, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hmm, I felt because it was basically just a resume with no evidence of notability or secondary sources, it would fall under G11? Qcne (talk) 20:18, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

My draft with significant coverage

User @Zxcvbnm want me to appeal so. My draft Rayman (character), at this time had 55 sources and nine of them what I think are significant coverage. Most of them were Super Smash Bros. and Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope then there were three of them which wasn't about those two games. So can you review my draft and check to see if I need to find more or the total is actually more or less. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I left a response at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#15:56, 4 August 2023 review of submission by NatwonTSG2. Basically it comes down to, I don't believe it has significant coverage and nobody else from the Video Games WikiProject does either when the editor brought the article there. The character may be WP:TOOSOON, but given how Ubisoft has pivoted towards the Rabbids subseries, I don't see him becoming huge in the future either. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:53, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

FYI @NatwonTSG2 you left this message on my Talk Page (Qcne), not @Zxcvbnm's. But they've now answered your question at the above Help Desk link. Qcne (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Clarification on Quantum Mind Theory

Hello,

I noticed that my comment about a new theory on the quantum mind was removed due to a lack of reliable source. I'd like to clarify that I am the source of this theory; it originates from my ideas and insights. I understand the need for reliable sources, but in this case, the theory itself is my creation. Thank you and best regards. QuantumMind7 (talk) 09:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello @QuantumMind7:, this is called original research, see here: WP:NOR. --DoebLoggs (talk) 09:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @QuantumMind7.

I am afraid that is not permitted on Wikipedia and breaks one of our fundamental rules: Wikipedia:No original research. Nothing on Wikipedia must come from an editor's own ideas and insights. Everything must come from an independent, reliable, source. Get your new theory into a reputable academic journal, have other reliable researchers cite and discuss it, and only then may it be included in Wikipedia.

Let me know if you have any further questions, Qcne (talk) 09:51, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I'm going to put my theory into a reputable academic journal. Best regards! 2806:103E:22:5A3D:7151:7BD3:FB24:F1E1 (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Good luck! Qcne (talk) 20:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello!

Just popping in for a moment. Bbb23 did say I could revert them. Hope you're doing well. Stolitz (talk) 21:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Stolitz, yes I just replied to your message on your Talk Page. I had no idea 'per cent' was a valid spelling until I checked the manual of style just now. I guess the more you learn.

Sorry for reverting your edits, it looked to me like small scale vandalism. I think maybe change your edit summaries to be something like "Correcting British spelling" or similar, as "Reverting now everything is cleared up" was meaningless to me as I was watching all the changes on the new changes feed. Qcne (talk) 21:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry about it! I'll heed that. We all make mistakes. Thanks. Stolitz (talk) 21:56, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your help at the Teahouse! You helped a lot of users. :) Tails Wx (they/them) ⚧ 18:46, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Qcne (talk) 18:53, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Josh G Wilson

Hi and thank you for your comments on the Inner Circle Music page, I appreciate it you taking the time to help.

You mentioned that most of my sources are still linked to Inner Circle Music by being interviews with the creator. Even though it is true that there are around 3 interviews with the creator, the information taken from the interview was not from the creator but from the person who did the interview, usually in the introduction. In addition, there are more than 3 independent references that are not linked to the label such as: Ben Ratliff from The New York Times, Richard B. Kamins from Step Tempest, Patrick Jarenwattananon from NPR, and articles on Downbeat Magazine and The New Yorker. There is also the entire discography of more than 80 albums on Discogs which is created by people that are not connected to the label. Can you please help me a bit more on what to do in this case so the page can be verified.

I'm just a longtime fan from this amazing jazz label that has ben around for more than 15 years and founded by an amazing artist. It really deserves a space on Wikipedia.

On a side note, I've noticed there are many other labels in wikipedia with only 2-3 references and linked to the label so I'm just curious how are they verified. I just want to learn more about how this work.

Thanks you so much again, Josh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh G Wilson (talk • contribs) 17:42, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Josh,

Firstly, please remember to sign your comments! :)

It would be worth reading Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Wikipedia has millions of articles of which lots are of bad quality, and should be improved or deleted. Their existence can't be used to judge a new article unfortunately. Wikipedia policies have tightened up over the years too, so it is likely a lot of them would never be accepted now. If you were to try and base your draft on an existing article, choose one that is from Wikipedia:Good articles.

The Richard B. Kamins from Step Tempest source is hosted via Blogspot, which is generally regarded as an unreliable source. Can you let me know if Richard is a subject matter expert and is reliable?

My main worry about the NPR, Downbeat, and New Yorker sources is that they're primarily about Greg Osby not the record label - the record label just gets a passing mention. I don't have access to the New York Times - any chance you can archive it at [1]https://archive.is/?

Unfortunately you need to remove the Discogs and RateYourMusic sources - these are both Wikipedia:User-generated content so not permitted to be used as sources. I'm sure there's gotta be a better source, even if it's a primary one, for the number of artists and releases. Check out Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources too. Qcne (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Qcne

Thank you getting back to me and for all these notes, they are very helpful.

Richard B. Kamins is an excellent writer and music critic. He's been reviewing records and concerts for many years and I've also been following his blog for a long time. He's also a professor and host a radio show where he plays a lot of the music that he reviews. Highly recommended!

Regarding The New York Times, thank you for the recommendation, I've just archived the article and added it to the references and external links. I've also removed Discogs and RateYourMusic, I didn't know they were Wikipedia:User-generated content.

I've added a few more references from some of the artists included in the label's roster where the name of the label is mentioned several times.

Please let me know if is looking in good shape to submit.

Thanks again! Josh G Wilson (talk) 05:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Josh - we're getting there! I think for the External Links section keep it to just the official webpage. External Links should be carefully populated (see WP:EXTERNAL). The other links are already in the reference section so we can probably just remove them. Qcne (talk) 10:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Qcne,

Thanks again for your notes, I just removed the external links except the official webpage, that makes sense, specially since like you said, I already mentioned those in the reference section. I've also added one more reference to one of the artists mentioned in the roster and added a few dates in the reference section. Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you! Josh G Wilson (talk) 16:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Great. I've made some minor copy edits and accepted it. Feel free to add it to more categories. It's accepted as a Start article. Qcne (talk) 16:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks again @Qcne, I appreciate your help. Josh G Wilson (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Arthur Yorinks draft

Hello! You recently rejected my draft for not establishing notability. I was fairly certain that his profiles in source 1, 2, 3 and 4, established notability, as they were indepedent biobibliographic profiles of Yorinks. I know the other sources don't establish notability, but I presumed the first four had it covered already. Yorinks also had an article before, which was deleted due to copyvio (not notability problems). I actually started work on this article because another article, Night Kitchen Radio Theater was tagged for speedy deletion and this message on the talk page saying that it should probably be merged into Arthur Yorinks who doesn't have an article. So I'm pretty certain that he's notable and I'm hoping you could take a second look! But of course if you think it still isn't notable, we may have to look back on speedily deleting Night Kitchen Radio Theater again ;). Sincerest well-wishes! Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Hia @MonarchOfTerror. I've got a bit of a problem with source 4, encyclopedia.com - which states it takes information from secondary sources. Unfortunately there's no policy on if encyclopedia.com can be used as a source, but I think I'd rather go directly to whatever original source encyclopedia.com pulls from? Source 1, 2, 3 look okay.

Source 7 and 10 are primary, I wonder if you can find a secondary source that lists his works instead? Qcne (talk) 16:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Qcne Apparently Yorinks' profile from encyclopedia.com is from "Contemporary Authors, New Revision Series" (you can find it at the bottom). I’ll try to find the original source. I'm going to see if I can find any additional sources for the selected works list as well. Will inform you when I'm done. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:47, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

@Qcne: So I managed to find the original source instead of encyclopedia.com, so we're good to go for that. I added ISBNs for the books that were primary sourced, and I also found sources for two of the primary sourced Radio plays. Unfortunately, I could not find a non primary source for the two other radio plays; if you think that stops this draft from being accepted feel free to comment it out. I think the article looks fairly ready now. If you think so too, then I'm ready to resubmit it or you can directly move it to mainspace. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 17:22, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Great! I've accepted it. Could you add some categories to it? Qcne (talk) 17:49, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your work and helpfulness! I'll add categories later when I'm done eating. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 18:10, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

There is a Thank You Baklava!

Hi! I'm new to the Wiki and still learning how to use it. Thank you for leaving a comment on my draft; I translated from the Turkish wiki page, and it seems there were quite a lot of problems with its sources. Well, thanks to you guys, I realized that. In reality I just wanted to translate bunch of pages fast but it seems there are more things to consider in this Wiki. Oh, and apparently, you can send baklava here on the wiki as a way of saying thank you. It would go well with a tea. Raqquduassa (talk) 21:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I will do some minor copy editing then approve your draft :)

The English Wikipedia has the strictest content policies compared to the other language projects, so extra care does need to be taken. Have a read of HELP:HOWTRANS for guidance. Qcne (talk) 08:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Taiwan Semiconductor Draft

Hi @Qcne

First of all, after 4 months wait, I thank you for your time to review my draft Draft:Taiwan Semiconductor. I'm reaching out to kindly ask for a quick review of the article I recently submitted. I've put in the effort to refine it according to Wikipedia's guidelines on neutrality and encyclopedic style.

I totally understand the need for accuracy and objectivity on Wikipedia. I've reworked the content to make sure it maintains a formal and informative tone, in line with Wikipedia's NPOV and Manual of Style. The changes aim to provide readers with reliable and unbiased information about Taiwan Semiconductor (TSC) and to differentiate with Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC).

If possible, could you please expedite the review process? I have checked out the reference you shared to ensure the article is up to Wikipedia's standards. I'm open to any suggestions or adjustments you might recommend. Kevin CW Lu (talk) 02:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Kevin CW Lu. It is better, but still has some problematic language or some odd choice of wording, such as (emphasis mine):

- has evolved from its origins as a manufacturer of rectifiers and label printer to a global enterprise

- strategically located

- In the realm of automotive electronics development

- Furthermore

- Amidst its pursuit of growth

- A significant milestone

- infused capital

- Demonstrating its commitment to innovation

- alignment with the burgeoning significance

- unveiled its Q3 financial report, highlighting consolidated quarterly revenue that surged to NTD3.9 billion, reaching an unprecedented peak for a single quarter

I think you can therefore tighten up the language quite a bit more, so have declined the draft again. You need to write dispassionately: pretend you are writing an autopsy, it needs to be factual and no WP:PEACOCK language used.

I also note that the Subsidiary section and the first paragraph of History is completely unreferenced- either remove or reference accordingly (ideally with a secondary, independent, source).

Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 08:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Qcne, I will take some time go deeply to the reference, and revise the content to massage the words and language, and resubmit soon as possible. Kevin CW Lu (talk) 00:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Chinguetti Province

Hello @Qcne,

Thanks for your feedback and review of my draft. The issue with the word Sebbe word definition was a typo, I meant to write war chiefs as it's defined in the source (General History of Africa: Africa from the Sixteenth to the Eighteenth Century). It has been fixed. The definition of the word Satigi is taken from the same source.

Thanks again! StaticOasis (talk) 16:58, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Perfect, I've accepted it. Congrats on an excellent article. Qcne (talk) 17:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Stenogale has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stenogale. Thanks! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 20:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Artists co-op (Wellington)

Thank you so much for your help getting the Artists' co-op article over the line. I'm working with another senior NZ editor to help sort out the images issues and I have corrected spelling issues - thank you again. Barry Thomas b'art homme 02:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by B'art homme (talk • contribs)

Second opinion

Hi, do you as the AfC reviewer of this page have any thoughts on my decision to redirect Beliaghata metro station? Please see the note to creator: User talk:122.187.144.98#I have sent you a note about a page you started. Cheers —Alalch E. 09:07, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Alalch E.. Hmmm. Yes I can see why you've re-directed it, my thought process was that it was an existing red link with sources but you are right they discussed the metro itself as opposed to the station. Sorry- I was perhaps too hasty with this one. Qcne (talk) 09:12, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

No need to say sorry, thanks for the feedback. —Alalch E. 09:17, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

The Times of India

It is usable per WP:TOI which says it "is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable". It only says the site is "generally unreliable for factual reporting on any topic with politial ramifications, such as the numbers of people who may have died in a riot, or the numbers of malnutritioned chidren, because of the newspaper's history of a pro-government bias, especially after the 1970s". This is entertainment, not politics, and it passes on that condition. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Kailash29792. The relevant bit for WP:TOI is The publication is also known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage.. This is relevant to entertainment drafts, for hopefully obvious reasons? How can we know the film didn't pay The Times of India for good press?

You do have other sources, so as I said I'd rather you replace the Times of India sources with ones that are more reliable and don't have a history of accepting submissions for payment.

Hope that explains my reasoning. Qcne (talk) 11:35, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Because of the two-star rating for 3 Bachelors. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Yep, that's ref # 9. But the other Times of India references are still in use, so it would be good if you could find alterative sources. If you don't agree with my assessment, feel free to re-submit and I'll recuse myself from reviewing it again. Qcne (talk) 11:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Please check again. Kept only one TOI ref now. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)