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Babylon 5
It appears you have an interest in reducing the B5 cruft. I've never seen the show, but I see some low-hanging fruit there, and I've just prod-ed/redirected/merged some obviously bad B5 articles. (I have experience reducing Stargate cruft 10 years ago.) To proceed, I recommend some kind of Universe of Babylon 5 article as a merge target as to not nuke everything, but unfortunately, I lack background knowledge of the show to know what's actually important. Let me know if I can be of help, because I actually enjoy the act of reducing+merging cruft. – sgeureka t•c 09:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'll merge the recurring B5 characters into List of Babylon 5 characters, where they belong in their current state. I am confident that Good Articles could be written about the main characters and even some of the bigger B5 fictional element articles, but then again nearly all of them currently fail WP:PLOT. Trimming+merging them (or even successfully AfDing them) would require more knowledge or pre-research than I intend to invest here. – sgeureka t•c 13:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
update on Umar (Marvel Comics)
Just a heads up. Since you voted on it. The page has gone through many changes with new sources etc. Me and then User:Nightscream did copyediting. I have mixed feelings on the way it is now written a little but overall the amount of sources that I helped add stayed the same. Jhenderson 777 11:20, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
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Patience
An unblock appeal can take a little while sometimes (example from yesterday) — might I suggest you arm yourself with a bit of patience? An unblock seems likely, at any case. But meanwhile, you have commented about this in at least five pages so far. El_C 02:20, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi, I have the impression that this article could use the input of an editor who is familiar with Polish issues. Perhaps you can have a look? Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 10:40, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your edits! --Randykitty (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Wizards
Piotrus, I was just about to complete that merge when you pre-empted me...!--Jack Upland (talk) 09:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
DYK:Kłodzko Synagogue
Hi, I followed your advice and nominated this article for DYK. I am not sure if I did it correctly. Can you check this and suggest corrections, if necessary? Kelvin (talk) 22:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- I added 2 references to the article. Thank you for suggestion. Your hook ALT2 I find very good. Kelvin (talk) 13:58, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
ACE
Hi. You've inadvertently made a bit of a mess with the code for the questions you are asking the candidates. I've sorted mine out, but other candidates, particularly DGG, haven't, and I admit it it took a while to debug. It would be great if you could fix it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I was unable to find your paper at the two addresses you provided without having to give away a host of personal details. Perhaps you can mail a copy of it to me. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Reuben Hill
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DYK for Naoshi Kanno
On 16 November 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Naoshi Kanno, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Japanese fighter ace Naoshi Kanno (pictured), credited with 25 confirmed kills, appears in the anime Drifters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Naoshi Kanno. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Naoshi Kanno), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Proposed Deletion - Celeborn
Hey Piotrus, I just wanted you to know that I deprodded Celeborn. While I agree with you that the article has issues, I don't think proposed deletion is a good way to address them. I left more information on my deprod comment. Thanks, Hog Farm (talk) 23:00, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Hi Piotrus, thanks for taking the time to make indvidual afd nominations of the middle earth/Tolkien related articles instead of bundling them all together, much appreciated.
DYK nomination of A Stanislaw Lem Reader
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DYK for Reuben Hill
On 26 November 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Reuben Hill, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Reuben Hill is considered the "founding father" of the sociology of the family discipline? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Reuben Hill. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Reuben Hill), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Dumb question..
Any idea what this is about? Reyk YO! 11:34, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- They've now had their user page speedily deleted, but for a while they redirected it to yours. Reyk YO! 11:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Judge Dredd-related PRODs
Just posting to wish you well in your efforts to get Wikipedia to apply its notability rules to Judge Dredd-related content. I've tried myself and failed. I think Devlin Waugh, Judge Death and Chopper have a reasonable chance of notability as they are the titular character of graphic novels, and some independent notability might be found for Mega-City One, but the rest are pure fancruft and should only be included, if at all, under Judge Dredd - or on Wikia. But there are plenty of editors who will defend them, notability be damned. Good luck! --Nicknack009 (talk) 13:37, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Piotrus! I've just created a new Poland-related article. Maybe WikiProject Poland would like to take a look on it? (but I'm not sure how to let them know so let me write to you first). Cheers.Dreamcatcher25 (talk) 07:14, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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Proposed Deletion of Lonely Mountain
I recently deprodded Lonely Mountain, which you proposed for deletion. I wholeheartedly agree with you that that article needs work. But I don't think it needs deleted. See my rationale on the edit summary. While the mountain can't gain notability just by being one of the central locations of The Hobbit, it likely has some reliable coverage from this. The article needs either better sourcing or a merge to The Hobbit, not deletion. Hog Farm (talk) 22:19, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
I have also been watching the pord'ing of various Tolkien's legendarium articles with growing concern, Piotrus. I think it's probably time to shift gears and just go exclusively the AfD route for most, if not all, of these submissions. There's clearly a conversation to be had about these. El_C 22:23, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Defense of Katowice
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DYK for Katowice massacre
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Proposed Deletion of Five Flavours Film Festival
The Five Flavours Film Festival entry has been proposed for deletion because of No indication this event passes Wikipedia:Notability (events). Dear Piotrus, I must disagree. I can point out dozens if not hundreds of Wikipedia articles on film industry events of similar or lesser importance/influence/popularity. Removing all would be a small Armageddon. I created this particular article by analyzing which of the many film festivals in Poland still not present on Wikipedia should become included. I chose several which deserve such a distinction and created two entries so far (not including working on articles on other countries' festivals - I recently added an Italian one for example), both of which fell under your scrutiny. As there are several dozens of film events in this country, obviously some are more and some are less important or influential. Many are of local importance only, others are international only by the name. Merits, significance for global film industry, influence of the presented awards, attendance, number of past editions - I realize that there are many aspects to consider.
I re-edited Five Flavours Film Festival (FFFF) today to underline some notability features in the article. Please read it. I could extend it even more but obviously a Wikipedia article on film festival should be mostly information and not accolades or advertisement, so let me elaborate further on the subject here in the discussion page. FFFF is unique for the region (Central and Eastern Europe) as the biggest event of its kind and the only regular one. It's a medium-sized festival, but it has a decent attendance and excellent media coverage, if you analyze internet resources it is clear that it's recognized among Asian film specialists. It is embraced by NETPAC for instance. Many of the films have their European or even international premieres on it (not to mention that most are Polish premieres)[1]. It's growing year by year so further growth of importance should be expected. It can't rival the well established Far East Film Festival in Udine, especially in size, but it certainly doesn't fall far behind. Some initiatives (like Bhutanese films retrospective) are rather unique worldwide.
Creating new Wikipedia articles is a difficult and controversial task and I am not an experienced Wikipedian, I will therefore try to stick to just expand already existing ones. Let's just settle the case of this article here first. If my clarification and re-editing of FFFF article satisfies you, I will do the same with the second one, Short Waves Festival. There, in the already posted article, you can grasp the uniqueness of the festival by reading the history section. The problem is that its category (short film) is very common - there are hundreds(!) of short film festivals and reviews in Poland. I chose this one over some other bigger ones (if you are familiar with the subject you may know Zubroffka for exampe), as I know that it is attended by more international journalists and has some resonance in the (rather niche, but still) industry, also the total money prizes are biggest in Poland and among biggest in Europe.
Thank you for your attention. Dnaoro (talk) 11:49, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Polish–Bohemian War (990)
On 3 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish–Bohemian War (990), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Polish–Bohemian War of 990 resulted in Poland taking control of Silesia? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Polish–Bohemian War (990)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Rather quick and unjust deletion of Sumaru
I was told not to long ago that the page for the Sumaru (character) was under consideration for deletion for being 'non notable' (I guess the new version of 'Non politically correct'). I replied on the talk page that any character from the pen of a famous author (no doubt Sax will get the same treatment soon) was notable as she featured in a BBC radio series, a series of novels, and a series of films as well as being notable for being a female lead character. I notched no other dissenting voices on the talk page and bang i's gone? What is going on here? Do you have an agenda and a flash mob for you to singlehandledy decide what is and what is not notable?Foofbun (talk) 23:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanx for the quick reply and help.Foofbun (talk) 03:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Polish–Bohemian War (1345–1348)
On 5 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish–Bohemian War (1345–1348), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the otherwise inconclusive Polish–Bohemian War of 1345–1348 cemented Bohemian control of Silesia? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Polish–Bohemian War (1345–1348)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Steve Loverso
Thank you for the note. This article is substantially the same as the deleted version, and created by the same editor. I reviewed the sources and they are the same ones as the deleted version, none of which reach the GNG. I think it's eligible for speedy deletion and will tag it as such now. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 04:31, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Kevin Silva et al
All of them have become notable since the AFDs. GiantSnowman 08:49, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Are you asking for my opinion re: Serpent Men?
Because if so I would say no, don't delete. It's a mess, like all fictional articles on Wikipedia, but it's notable enough, thanks to its connection to the Cthulhu mythos and Robert E Howard's work, for inclusion. Serendipodous 13:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Shadow Council-related
Hi. I got your deletion proposal message about the Shadow Council and I am suggesting that there should be a discussion that should determine the fate of it which I left on it's talk page. I'm just making a suggestion here. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:17, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- I did put one up, but somebody reverted it. Feel free to undo it so that a discussion can be started. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Category:Censored works by country has been nominated for discussion
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Your MILHIST question
Hi Piotrus, sorry for being silent for so long time, a RL is a really distracting thing :-). Your question forced me to take a look at the problem at a different angle, and the solution that I propose (see WP:V talk page) may help us to avoid many problem in future. Moreover, it may make some DS redundant. Please, comment on it.--Paul Siebert (talk) 21:27, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
Category:Television censorship in Japan has been nominated for discussion
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Category:Television censorship by country has been nominated for discussion
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Research Interview Request
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Cite fix / cleanup
I have been doing a lot of cite maintenance over the past year. HA showed up in a cite error category. When I open an article I usually scan it for obvious improvements (image sizes/placement, layout, etc.) I sometimes try to make cites more consistent/functional by using templates. I will give the articles you mentioned a look. User-duck (talk) 09:19, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for A Stanislaw Lem Reader
On 11 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article A Stanislaw Lem Reader, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that A Stanislaw Lem Reader showcases the work of one of the most widely read science fiction writers, including interviews on the relation of literature to philosophy and science? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A Stanislaw Lem Reader. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, A Stanislaw Lem Reader), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
DYK nomination of Ronald Grossarth-Maticek
Hello! Your submission of Ronald Grossarth-Maticek at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --evrik (talk) 21:11, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Max Samuel
Thanks for the suggestion and the remark on the article. Isn't the article too long for the DYK format? I feel uncomfortable with selfsuggestions, but am open to hear from your experience. As to the further "category Polish Jew" I think it is not too suited. Max Samuel was a member of the German minority community of Argenau (about his parents we still know only little), wether he mastered Yiddish or Polish language is not recorded anywhere, neither in the family memories nor in documents, but I guess for sure he knew some phrases in view of a majority of native Polish speakers in his hometown. All his siblings who continued to live in his former hometown opted for remaining Germans and left the Prussian partition area in 1920. Best greetings Ulf Heinsohn (talk) 22:50, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Poland 1921 borders
The 1921 eastern border was quite unrealistic, a problem compounded by interwar Poland's ham-fisted attempts at Polonisation and general mis-treatment of its' non-Polish minorities. Even without Stalin, powerful Byelorussian and Ukrainian nationalist forces would have doomed the 1921 Polish border in any plausible alternate history. PAustin4thApril1980 (talk) 05:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
RfC: Including concerts/tours in articles about Korean musicians
Hello,
As you were recently active on the WikiProject Korea talk page, hope it's acceptable to consult you for guidance.
Regarding this RfC on that same talk page, could you please advise on appropriate next steps to get the discussion closed and edit reverted?[1]
I appreciate any assistance that you can offer.
In future
If you encounter an ALLPLOT article on a non-notable fictional character that could be incorporated into a list somewhere if it isn't already, a good idea would be to boldly redirect the page. Theoretically, what you did with the Hodor article was the way to go to seek further community input and consensus for your proposed edit, but given the hostile (one might even say toxic) environment in fictional elements AFDs of late, doing so tends to create needless drahma: if the discussion ends the way it should because some brave admin dared to enforce policy/consensus, it will definitely wind up at DRV, and even if the discussion ends with "no consensus", the same users will just try to paint that as consensus to keep and prevent a good-faith merge/redirect discussion from taking place. If you had redirected off the bat, that would immediately place the burden on anyone trying to revert you to justify their own actions with reliable sources and consensus.
And, to be fair, the policy -- as stated in WBG's original close of the relevant discussion -- is to try redirecting first. This would also prevent "misunderstandings" where the !vote-counters try to say that you were in favour of "deletion, not redirecting". This claim was repeatedly made in the Hodor AFD (Ctrl+F "BEFORE").
(See also a recent incident where an editor claimed that because I had initially supported option C in an RFC and later changed my !vote to "C, but with the freedom to modify it later without being bound by a malformed consensus", my !vote couldn't be counted with the editors who said "C, not A, B or D". They even had the balls to call a 4/9 quasi-plurality Example text
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Help on AfD
hi, I've seen you working some articles into AfD. I have found 3 articles which could be not notable, here Like Nastya Brandon Rogers (YouTuber) and Big Pussy Bonpensiero, can you create it into AfD deletion, Thank you. 153.201.63.53 (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Dear non. I recommend you register an account, and install wP:TWINKLE which will give you one click tool to nominate such problematic articles for discussion at AfD. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!!
Thank you very much Piotrus for your thoughtful greeting. You have my very best wishes for this holiday season. May your heart be filled with happiness during this special time.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
Thank you for continuing to make Wikipedia the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. Lightburst (talk) 22:51, 21 December 2019 (UTC) |
Be well at Christmas
Have a WikiChristmas and a PediaNewYear | |
I hope you are well Piotrus. Have a peaceful Christmas. SilkTork (talk) 17:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC) |
Good luck
Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune.
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Bantha
Hey Piotrus. I've continued my expansions and additions to the Bantha page. You probably saw that the AFD was indeed relisted for further discussion. Given that you had voiced support for it being relisted, I was wondering if perhaps you'd consider formally changing your vote to Support over at the AFD page? Please don't interpret this as an attempt at WP:CANVASSING or anything, I only ask because it seems that perhaps your opinion of the article now is different from how it was when you first proposed the AFD and it might be helpful for that to be reflected at the AFD page itself. Totally up to you, in any event. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 19:28, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Doux commerce
On 28 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Doux commerce, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Enlightenment concept of doux commerce suggests that commerce civilizes people and can even eliminate violence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Doux commerce. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Doux commerce), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
The article Robert J. Szmidt has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Snowycats (talk) 02:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Michler's Palace
On 29 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Michler's Palace, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Michler's Palace, a townhouse destroyed in the Warsaw Uprising, is remembered for a wartime song named after it? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michler's Palace. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Michler's Palace), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
DYK for Krzysztof Warszewicki
On 29 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Krzysztof Warszewicki, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Polish courtier and writer Krzysztof Warszewicki was a respected orator who spoke at the funerals of Catherine, queen consort of Poland, and Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Krzysztof Warszewicki. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Krzysztof Warszewicki), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
DYK for Ronald Grossarth-Maticek
On 30 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ronald Grossarth-Maticek, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that medical scholar Ronald Grossarth-Maticek directed a long-term study involving 30,000 people from 18,000 households, spanning more than 20 years? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ronald Grossarth-Maticek. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ronald Grossarth-Maticek), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Speedy deletion declined: Nemo Systems
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Nemo Systems, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: notable founder, at the very least, it should be merged or redirected to Nick McKeown per WP:ATD. Thank you. SoWhy 19:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: IBM Centers for Advanced Studies
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of IBM Centers for Advanced Studies, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: as part of IBM clearly significant enough to pass the low bar of A7. Thank you. SoWhy 19:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Village Ventures
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Village Ventures, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: having two notable founders indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 19:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia
On 1 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia was published before the copy-editing process was completed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Proposed deletion of Ockel Sirius B
Hi Piotrus. Thank you very much for your comments regarding Ockel Sirius B. It had been quite a long time since I updated the page. My hope was that as the product grew, other collaborators such as yourself would pitch in and improve it. Your reason for Speedy deletion of the article is because of Notability is rather an unfortunate excuse. The company is quite notable to tech and people who are generally in the know with regards to hardware. I also noted that you have been going around labelling products for deletion which is a form of vandalism and would lead to your account being deleted. Be a team player. Help improve Wikipedia. Have a Happy New Year! Zotezangu (talk) 07:13, 01 January 2020 (UTC).
Welcome to the 2020 WikiCup!
Happy New Year, Happy New Decade and Happy New WikiCup! The competition begins today and all article creators, expanders and improvers are welcome to take part. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page. We are relaxing the rule that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2020 will count; now to be eligible for points in the competition, you must have completed significant work on the content at some time! Any questions on the rules or on anything else connected to the Cup should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve the encyclopedia for Wikipedia's readers, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, --A.S. Brown (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Dear Piotrus, I'm sorry I got behind in replying. I was little overwhelmed at the time, but I'm found some good material for Dmowski, which I already started on and I hope to do more next year. Best wishes!--A.S. Brown (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Vision Park
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Vision Park, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: publishing multiple notable games indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 09:55, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski
Hello! Your submission of Cecylia and Maciej Brogowski at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Trekonomics
On 6 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Trekonomics, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the book Trekonomics argues that while the warp drive seems impossible, Star Trek's post-scarcity economy can plausibly be achieved? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Trekonomics. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
DYK nomination of Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne
Hello! Your submission of Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 01:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Bruna (company)
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Bruna (company), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: notable founder indicates significance, consider merging there per WP:ATD. Thank you. SoWhy 14:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Recent speedies
In addition to SoWhy's above message, I am concerned about a number of CSD tags you placed today, including Budlong Pickle Company, The Chainlink and Hypex Electronics. The only one I really felt I could justify deleting was Djinnworks, and even then it's a marginal case; can I be absolutely certain every single one of the 250+ revisions spanning several years unambigiously meets the criteria? Remember that speedy deletions are reserved for very obvious and unambiguous cases; for anything that isn't that, PROD or AfD should be preferred. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:52, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy nominations
Hi. I came here to offer some friendly advice about your speedy deletion nominations, and I see you have already received gentle reminders from two other administrators above. I have had to decline several of your nominations over the last few days, most recently D.I.O. Drogist this evening. I note that some of your nominations have been good, and I just think you need to slow down and raise the bar a bit. Quality over quantity. Most importantly, remember that taking a little time to improve an article is much more helpful to Wikipedia in general, than to spend a cheap 5 seconds just tagging an article and walking away for someone else to deal with it. You could make these articles better with a little effort. Let me know if I can help. ElAhrairah inspect damage⁄berate 23:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Rumcajs
On 9 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rumcajs, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Czech fictional outlaw Rumcajs was so popular in Poland that a brand of detergent was named after his son? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rumcajs. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Deprod RGraph
Hi, I wanted to let you know I have deprodded RGraph according to WP:DEPROD as I consider this article passing WP:NSOFT and anyway we should remember about WP:CONTN. If you do not agree please prove and a constructive discussion would be appreciated. Thank you. Avbgok (talk) 08:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Maxdata
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Maxdata, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: How is "It was one of the top ten European IT producers for several years" not a claim of significance? . Thank you. SoWhy 14:30, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Additionally, since multiple people have now opined, you might want to slow down your tagging. It seems implausible that you are able to fully review those pages in the few seconds you spend on each article, especially when you start multiple AFDs within minutes a thorough BEFORE and ATD check seems unlikely. Nominating clearly notable companies such as Maxdata for A7 is also deeply troubling. Regards SoWhy 14:45, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: ASint Technology
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of ASint Technology, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: two notable owners indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 14:46, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Battle of Hel
The article Battle of Hel you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Hel for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of CPA-5 -- CPA-5 (talk) 18:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello and happy new year. I see you are into company articles now. I came by Category:Fictional companies by chance and thought of you. Maybe you'll be interested in it, too? :-) – sgeureka t•c 15:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Piotrus, the nominator has posted that the citation issues have been addressed. As noted earlier, they don't need a QPQ. When you get a chance, please return and continue your review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne
On 15 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Polish publishing house WSiP had a monopoly on textbook publishing from the 1950s to 1989? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Wydawnictwa Szkolne i Pedagogiczne), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Speedy deletion declined: Postbank (South Africa)
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Postbank (South Africa), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: division of notable state owned company, consider redirecting/merging to South African Post Office instead if notability can't be established . Thank you. SoWhy 15:03, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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Speedy deletion nomination of British Communist Party
Hello Piotrus,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged British Communist Party for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!
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ARCA on newspapers in TA
After further considering this issue, I'm not inclined to follow up on the Arbs' stated positions[2][3][4][5] with an ARCA request to repeat them in a "formal" setting, just because their position was misunderstood by one admin in one case. In other words, I'm less concerned with the fact that ArbCom didn't vote on that explanation, and more with the fact that 2/4 Arbs who voted for the restriction gave the same one. That said, if you wish to file on ARCA I will gladly join as a party. In the meanwhile, seeing as that addition has been reverted by three separate editors, and that the source is a disgraced academic writing on the very subject that got him dismissed from academy, it seems that it is also undue on the usual grounds of RS and CONSENSUS. François Robere (talk) 18:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- What I think should be done is as follows
- Renew the WP:V discussion about newspapers in general, and about this change, which I propose to add to the policy. One important consequence of this change is that it removes blanket approval/disapproval of some type of mass-media, puts everything is a proper context, and makes an additional stress on REDFLAG.
- That will allow us to submit ARCA to request lifting sourcing restrictions completely, because they become redundant. Indeed, there is absolutely no problem to use any source in the Holocaust in Poland area, unless some user objected. First time addition of any source should not lead to any sanctions. However, as soon as a REDFLAG concern has been raised by someone, and that concern looks legitimate (it was supported by RS or logical arguments), the source that caused a concern should be removed, replaced or supplemented by a number of better sources. What do you guys think about that?--Paul Siebert (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Paul Siebert: That sounds like the way to go, Paul. Let me know if any discussion related to this develops. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:10, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Toss a Coin to Your Witcher
Hello! Your submission of Toss a Coin to Your Witcher at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion declined: Mocca.com
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Mocca.com, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: notable owner indicates significance. Consider merging or redirecting per WP:ATD. Thank you. SoWhy 11:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Korea Rail Network Authority
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Korea Rail Network Authority, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: subject is the railroad construction agency for South Korea, clearly not eligible under spirit of A7. Thank you. SoWhy 13:17, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: SaeHan Information Systems
Hello Piotrus. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of SaeHan Information Systems, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: really? Developing the first MP3 player is not a claim of significance? Thank you. SoWhy 13:29, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
January 2020
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Piotrus and A7. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Toss a Coin to Your Witcher
On 31 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Toss a Coin to Your Witcher, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the song "Toss a Coin to Your Witcher" from the Netflix television show The Witcher became a viral hit within days of the series' release? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Toss a Coin to Your Witcher. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Toss a Coin to Your Witcher), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Wug·a·po·des 06:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC) 12:02, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 37
Books & Bytes
Issue 37, November – December 2019
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DYK for Bleach: Brave Souls
On 2 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bleach: Brave Souls, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the mobile game Bleach: Brave Souls features story arcs from the manga Bleach that did not appear in its anime adaptation, including the unaired final arc? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bleach: Brave Souls. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bleach: Brave Souls), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Continuing from WP:RX
To be fair to Elsevier and Co., someone has to foot the bill for doing academic research. Field studies like this one (which I used to improve the articles Coropuna, Casiri (volcano) and Purupuruni) don't often pay for themselves after all. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Somebody, of course, but I have never heard of Elsevier sponsoring academic research. AFAIK they only provide a rather expensive service of copyediting/publishing, and make gigantic profits from it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:12, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
This Month in Education: January 2020
Ping
Hi, you asked me to let me know if the discussion about WP:V start. I has started, and I think it is time for you to join it. I believe that will not be considered by others as canvassing, because that ping was made in a response to your request.--Paul Siebert (talk) 02:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Paul Siebert: Thank you. Where is said discussion? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- WP:V talk page.--Paul Siebert (talk) 15:46, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:BattleTechWiki
Template:BattleTechWiki has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 12:06, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Perfection
Perfection was semi-protected (by you) in 2009, and has been that way ever since! The protection log says something like "constant vandalism, don't ever unprotect" but it's been a ridiculously long while. Any chance of unprotecting? 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:7AC0 (talk) 10:10, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) You should make this request at WP:RFPP. In any event, Piotrus is no longer an administrator and cannot change the protection level of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:58, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will ask there though it could still help if Piotrus weighed in, since he originally protected it and might remember what was going on with it back then. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:7AC0 (talk) 14:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't recall that incident.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I would be very surprised if you did. My instincts, though, are that such an article invites regular vandalism because of its subject matter. I wonder why the IP wants it unprotected. I know we shy away from permanent protection, but in some cases it's probably justified.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Indeed. An IP who can find who was an admin that protected it 10 years ago can probably create an autoconfirmed account. And if said IP cannot, well... this raises some other questions, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- If you look at the page history and click "view logs for this page" it shows who protected it regardless of how long ago it was. The page has been protected for 10+ years so there is no recent evidence that the protection is doing any good. I will ask at RFPP, thanks. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:7AC0 (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I would be very surprised if you did. My instincts, though, are that such an article invites regular vandalism because of its subject matter. I wonder why the IP wants it unprotected. I know we shy away from permanent protection, but in some cases it's probably justified.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't recall that incident.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will ask there though it could still help if Piotrus weighed in, since he originally protected it and might remember what was going on with it back then. 2601:648:8202:96B0:0:0:0:7AC0 (talk) 14:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
How many people read Polish?
Greetings, are you up for an intervention please? During my recent tidying on Madame de Staël, I dared to put a Polish reference (Popowicz 2013) to support the view that she is regarded as a "proto-feminist", not my invention. This is now reverted with the comment (from Holland, I believe) "not many people read Polish"! Should this be put to some kind of adjudication? Thank you for your time and help.--Po Mieczu (talk) 12:49, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have taken your advice. There is now a subsection on "precursor of feminism". Thank you as ever.--Po Mieczu (talk) 22:14, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Reverted post
Piotrus, do you have any idea who 맛있는 만두 is?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:07, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Nope, and the question lacking in context and grammatically incorrect seems like semi-random trolling. Maybe some child clicking on random wiki links? Btw, my classes haven't started yet so it's not one of my students. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:15, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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Lucky and To Lucky
You failed to notice that they are both mascots of the Hanshin Tigers? That is a suitable merge-option for both mascots. The Banner talk 18:23, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Not much to merge, but it is always an option, and you are welcome to propose the merge (do ping me if you do so). Right now I am sure we don't need multiple articles about the mascots. Even ja wiki as far as I can tell has a single one. The benefit of a higher visibility AfD is that it can allow us to discuss whether a merge is indeed preferable to having a stand alone article about the mascots. It is a shame merge discussions have such a low visibility compared to deletion ones, sigh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:08, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I am not willing to clean up your sloppy nominations. The Banner talk 13:59, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Near (Death Note)
I've posted a few comments on the AfD page re: this literary character. I'd like 30 days to update and improve the article before it's deleted. -- GimmeChoco44 (talk) 10:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
prodding
Sorry you are getting threats of ANI. Although I would have to agree that the prods and AFD's get a little premature sometimes. I would recommend googling and finding a place to merge when notability is not proven. If merge was disagreed upon then go for it on AFD. But remember notability can be subjective and articles are allowed to be imperfect. Not all the sources digged upon = every source out there too. Just curious of how many articles you said were inclusive on (besides this one of course)? At least you are not TNT and are deletionist of every AFD out there. Although your prod pattern is more random and aimed at more major things that have plot. Also have you been in here. Another recommendation since you don't like plots and the style of which comic book related articles are done on these comic related articles is to bring a new consensus on style here. Jhenderson 777 06:55, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team
Nomination of Orbiter for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Orbiter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orbiter (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 16:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
CSD and PROD
It might be a good idea that you start doing a proper WP:BEFORE before nominating. Too many of your nominations are based on faulty arguments. The Banner talk 12:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I do it, but when it comes to foreign languages, it is easy to miss things. If you can rescue articles with sources in Dutch or such, god speed. I am happy if we can rescue articles, but articles that do not show any evidence of notability for years need to be fixed, and if that is not possible, considered for deletion. Again, congrats on any article you rescue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you are making way too many mistakes. Sometimes just reading the article provides you with a merge target, but still you nominate for destruction. I expect more quality work from an admin, especially after the recent case at AN/I. The Banner talk 18:16, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Deletion discussion often end in SOFTDELETE (merge), not "destruction".--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Seeing the amount of dodgy nominations, you really give me the idea that removal of knowledge is your purpose. I tend to call that destruction. The Banner talk 14:01, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Deletion discussion often end in SOFTDELETE (merge), not "destruction".--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
If you have trouble with foreign subjects and foreign-language source, it might be a better idea to refrain from nominating them. Your prod of De Consularis is another example of a dodgy WP:BEFORE. The Banner talk 10:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- Just in the last six weeks, I've "rescued" Tom Hughes and Margo Montgomery, Teacup in a Storm, Bluntman and Chronic, Breathless Mahoney, Tara King, Mike Gambit, Captain Battle, Cathy Gale, Dharma Initiative, Fanny Zilch, Knock-off Nigel, Mother (The Avengers), Oceanic Airlines, Persephone (The Matrix), Ethan Hunt, Purdey (The New Avengers), Scott Robinson and Charlene Mitchell, Steve Andropoulos and Betsy Stewart, Teacup in a Storm, Newton T. Bass, Batarang, Power Sword, Day of the Figurines, Nibbles (Tom and Jerry), Royal Flush Gang, Spike and Tyke (characters), Steve Johnson and Kayla Brady, Stormbringer, Sumuru (character) and Terrible Trio. That's thirty articles proposed for deletion, and the only thing that I "rescued" them from was Piotrus' inability to use Google Books and Internet Archive. Piotrus: it is time to step away from Prod and AfD. You are not good at it. -- Toughpigs (talk) 04:10, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Anywhere else and by anybody else, Toughpigs, that would be construed as a Personal Attack. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- You're right. Piotrus, I apologize; I was out of line. You have the right to prod and nominate what you want; if I disagree, then it's up to me to demonstrate notability. -- Toughpigs (talk) 07:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Anywhere else and by anybody else, Toughpigs, that would be construed as a Personal Attack. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:35, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Popping over to highlight something similar to User:Toughpigs and User:The Banner -- instead of treating content that is reasonably straight forward to research as improvable, you have nominated content for deletion. I am sad to see so many many mistaken proposals by someone so experienced as you, Piotrus, is very disappointing. I get how if you don't edit in the fiction space, that you might not have it in your back pocket to check Google Books, or to dig for reviews in fiction websites -- but it appears that your approach to these topics is to try to WP:TNT everything that an enthusiastic fan contributed to: its not good faith or using the deletion processes with due diligence. Who knows how many of the things that were deleted in the last few months are there because the deleting admin didn't check your work and it should have been kept: you're trusted because of your experience, please use it wisely. Hope that you take a break or find a new approach to engaging the topic area with a bit more care, Sadads (talk) 17:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Category:American educators of Korean descent has been nominated for discussion
Category:American educators of Korean descent, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. TM 04:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
WikiCup 2020 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 57 contestants qualifying. We have abolished the groups this year, so to qualify for Round 3 you will need to finish Round 2 among the top thirty-two contestants.
Our top scorers in Round 1 were:
- Epicgenius, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with a featured article, five good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 895 points.
- Gog the Mild came next with 464 points, from a featured article, two good articles and a number of reviews, the main theme being naval warfare.
- Raymie was in third place with 419 points, garnered from one good article and an impressive 34 DYKs on radio and TV stations in the United States.
- Harrias came next at 414, with a featured article and three good articles, an English civil war battle specialist.
- CaptainEek was in fifth place with 405 points, mostly garnered from bringing Cactus wren to featured article status.
- The top ten contestants at the end of Round 1 all scored over 200 points; they also included L293D, Kingsif, Enwebb, Lee Vilenski and CAPTAIN MEDUSA. Seven of the top ten contestants in Round 1 are new to the WikiCup.
These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. In Round 1 there were four featured articles, one featured list and two featured pictures, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. Between them, contestants completed 127 good article reviews, nearly a hundred more than the 43 good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Contestants also claimed for 40 featured article / featured list reviews, and most even remembered to mention their WikiCup participation in their reviews (a requirement).
Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.
If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:47, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
The Signpost: 1 March 2020
- From the editor: The ball is in your court
- News and notes: Alexa ranking down to 13th worldwide
- Special report: More participation, more conversation, more pageviews
- Discussion report: Do you prefer M or P?
- Arbitration report: Two prominent administrators removed
- Community view: The Incredible Invisible Woman
- In focus: History of The Signpost, 2015–2019
- From the archives: Is Wikipedia for sale?
- Traffic report: February articles, floating in the dark
- Gallery: Feel the love
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- Opinion: Wikipedia is another country
- Humour: The Wilhelm scream
WikiCup newsletter correction
There was an error in the WikiCup 2020 March newsletter; L293D should not have been included in the list of top ten scorers in Round 1 (they led the list last year), instead, Dunkleosteus77 should have been included, having garnered 334 points from five good articles on animals, living or extinct, and various reviews. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:30, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Zamachowiec czy nie
Myślę że możesz spokojnie odpowiadać w języku ojczystym. Zastanawianie się czy Jerzy Zborowski jest zamachowcem czy nie jest dla mnie kuriozalne. W okupowanym kraju działalność obronna ofiary raczej trudno nazwać terroryzmem czy działaniami zamachowymi. Oczywiście można powiedzieć że punkt widzenia zależy od punktu siedzenia ale jednak gdyby wprowadzac tego typu rozważania to każdy nasz bohater narodowy byłby mordercą a każda ofiara bohaterem i vice versa. No tak chyba nie można. Okres wojenny jednak to jednak wyjątkowy czas rządzący się swoimi prawami. Pozdrawiam --Adamt (talk) 19:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
This Month in Education: February 2020
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Ready for DYK nomination?
Hello Piotruś, having spent some time in the company of Józef Retinger (1888-1960), it struck me he merits wider recognition, not only on account of his colourful life, but because he accomplished so much and wished for no recompense other than peaceful co-existence. What do you think?--Po Mieczu (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hi Piotr, thank you for the info re:main page features and your interest in the Miss La La article! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully you've enjoyed some of my other articles as well. I'll be sure to add pages to wiki projects--thanks very much for the tip! So all I do is add the project tag on the talk page of any page I create? And where can I find a list of the kinds of tags there are out there? Sincerely, Caterpillar84 (talk) 16:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!
Dear Piotrus, thank you so much for all your kind work and help, which are much appreciated here!😃😃 It is nice to get some positive feedback, which helped to improve my mood on an otherwise gloomy day. I'll better with the talk page template-I've been here for a while, but I'm a klutz with computers and sometimes I get confused about things.🙄 The next article which I'm going to start will be on Mr. Maneli. Unfortunately, there is much about his role in the ICC, but not elsewhere other than he was survivor of Auschwitz who was a prominent law professor at Warsaw State University who fled to the United States in 1968. I prefer to get the balance of his life rather the five years in total that he spent in Vietnam. I certainly take up your suggestion with bringing Mr. Seaborn to widespread attention. I didn't think anybody who was going to pay that attention to that article, so I'm honored that someone like you, who have always found unfailingly intelligent and friendly did notice. Thank you again for all your kindness and I hope you'r having a wonderful day. Best wishes--A.S. Brown (talk) 03:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you again for all kindness and advice. One of my big projects for this year (actually for last year, but I got sidelined) is article for the Danzig crisis, which at present we don't have-which seems a shocking admission given the crisis led to World War II in Europe. I'll hopefully now that I have free time I'll get to the article going, which I intend to be a multi-national affair with equal time given to decision-makers in Moscow, Warsaw, Berlin, Rome, Paris, London and the Free City itself. I'll start out the you suggested, and I would certainly appreciate any suggestions and comments from you. Thank you for your time and help! Best wishes!--A.S. Brown (talk) 08:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- The article on the 1932 crisis seems pretty solid. Thank you for pointing out for me. No, I was thinking about the 1939 crisis, which always seems to get overlooked. I suspect that part of the reason is the popular tendency to see World War II as a morality play, a battle between Absolute Good vs. Absolute Evil. And since Mr. Chamberlain and M. Daladier were the men who went to Munich in 1939, there is a tendency to see them as part of the latter camp. The fact that the same leaders who went to Munich always declared war on Germany in 1939 makes things complicated, which is why the 1939 crisis gets passed over. There is a popular book, On the Origins of War by Donald Kagan, which is a very bad book. Kagan's thesis is that softness and mildness in foreign policy encourages aggression and resolution and hardness discourages aggression. It is not so much that I disagree with the examples he had chosen like the two world wars, but that this is a very selective use of examples to make grand, sweeping claims. If I wanted, I could pick many examples where wars might have prevented had there been a growing willingness to compromise, which would go against Kagan's claims that a willingness to compromise always shows weakness and hence encourages aggression. Different situations require different policies-sometimes one should not compromise and other times one should. What struck me about the chapter dealing with World War Two in Kagan's book is that it basically stops at the Munich Agreement and the events immediately preceding World War Two are given only one page. I suppose since writes this story as a morality play, admitting that the people he chose to cast as villains did after all stand up to Hitler would mess things up for him. Once many moons ago, I wrote up a massive MA thesis about the origins of the Second World War in Europe, and I struck by just different things were from the popular image. The French ambassador to Germany, Robert Coulondre, who being from the south of France was very close to his fellow southerner Daladier. Coulondre kept insisting in August 1939 that if France really stands by Poland, Hitler would back down. There is lot of evidence that Daladier was influenced by Coulondre-which completely contradicts the popular image of the French in 1939 as a cowardly and defeatist, a people who just simply lacked the guts to stand up to Hitler .
- And there is also a certain anti-Polish tendency-one is struck by the number of historians who write in a sneering, mocking tone about the leaders of the Sanation regime, especially Colonel Beck who admittedly was not a likable man, but he gets more abuse than what he deserves. The men who ran the Sanation regime were Polish nationalists, but I don't understand why this is used as a reason for indicting them. Much like French history, there is about Polish history that causes otherwise sensible people to lose their minds. I suspect this is due to irritation about what was perceived as a small power whose leaders insisted their nation was a great power. One of the systematic bias of diplomatic history is the tendency of historians to focus on the great powers and to quietly take in the views of great power diplomats as their own. Hence the tendency of too many historians to accept the tone of annoyance with Colonel Beck expressed by British and French diplomats who found this secretive, proud, obstinate man who believed passionately in the greatness of Poland a very difficult man to deal with. To be fair, Beck overestimated Poland's strength, but one must remember the mental picture that he had of the Polish Army in 1939 was that of the victorious army of 1920. And it is also true that Beck's high opinion of the Polish Army was shared by others. Note the British Army study in the spring of 1939 which rated the Polish Army as superior to the Red Army by a factor of 3 to 1. Yes, Beck as Foreign minister did what he thought was best for his country, which is what foreign ministers normally do; why this is so awful coming from a Polish foreign minister seems to reflect this systematic bias of diplomatic historians that the small powers should do as they are told by the great powers. Beyond, there is the popular stereotype in the English-speaking world (which I never found to be true) that Poles are "difficult". I suppose what I'm getting are here is that for many historians the Czechs in 1938 make for more much lovable victims than the Poles did in 1939. I think for all reasons, the Danzig crisis gets overlooked, a bias that I intend to correct. Thank you again for all your kind words and help, which is much appreciated here. Best wishes and cheer! --A.S. Brown (talk) 06:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Newspapers.com
Hi Piotrus, if you'd like to get access to the Newspapers.com sources, you can get a free subscription through the Wikipedia Library Card platform. You should check it out! It'll give you a lot more sources to use and evaluate. -- Toughpigs (talk) 14:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Paradisus Judaeorum
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Paradisus Judaeorum you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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Your GA nomination of Paradisus Judaeorum
The article Paradisus Judaeorum you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Paradisus Judaeorum for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!
Hello Piotruś, thanks for the encouragement re: Józef Retinger. I shall set to work on the sources as best I can. Kind regards, --Po Mieczu (talk) 11:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)