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Just so it's crystal clear
DO NOT post on my talkpage again. You seem not to understand this. Now go away and make some more bad-faith AfD noms. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:15, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Lugnuts: Your baseless accusation of bad-faith is a clear violation of WP:NPA. Please refactor your post (or remove it if you are incapable of doing so) so that it is in-line with WP:CIV and related policies. Thank you, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
You are requested to please reconsider your decision to delete above page. There are references available about the subject’s contribution to the society. This is not an emotional appeal but a request as this social worker keeps his foundation first before promoting himself, and work significantly towards the betterment and welfare of the society. If you go through their official website or other press coverage, you will find that all the work is done by him only and everywhere his name is mentioned along with his foundation. Thanks Shibanihk (talk) 07:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC) <ref>http://www.thebetterindia.com/80335/uday-foundation-delhi-congenital-defects/</ref> <ref><ref>http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/our-names-may-not-be-khan/2/101119.html</ref> <ref>http://www.hindustantimes.com/mumbai/condom-vending-machines-in-public-places-not-a-hit-in-city/story-UDUJ5bSllRF8gcLvxfLpUL.html</ref> <ref>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rahul-Verma.cms</ref> <ref>http://www.ndtv.com/author/rahul-verma</ref> <ref>http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/voices/story-of-an-invisible-ews-student-you-see-every-day/</ref> <ref>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maam-may-I-go-to-the-toilet-please/articleshow/46595768.cms</ref> and <ref>https://thelogicalindian.com/my-social-responsibility/my-story-junk-food-free-schools/</ref>
@Shibanihk: The Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rahul Verma (social activist) discussion has been closed. Please go to WP:UNDELETE for your options. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:40, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Given that I've already showed you how to check notability of fictional topics, I'm afraid you have well and truly earned this:
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
Feel free to continue to come to me for advice on fictional topics, especially if you don't want to continue looking silly. AfD'ing things like that makes me waste my time to make you look bad. That's a lose-lose. Jclemens (talk) 01:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Lists of Polish politicians
What do you think about ruthless cleaning of List of Polish Socialist Party politicians and others from {{Lists of Polish politicians by party}}? These are 80% in red. I am not aware of similar lists for other countries. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
May 2017 WikiCup newsletter
The second round of the competition has now closed, with just under 100 points being required to qualify for round 3. YellowEvan just scraped into the next round with 98 points but we have to say goodbye to the thirty or so competitors who didn't achieve this threshold; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Our top scorers in round 2 were:
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Proposal
Hey Piotrus... here's a proposal: You stop AfD'ing things that have a good redirect target, and just redirect them. Then, if someone reverts you, come ping me about it and I'll help you find sources, or help with the AfD. When you're nominating fictional elements--100% of which have been mergeable--for AfD, you're taking away the limited time I have to spend in Wikipedia improving articles. Go through my other contributions for the past few months, and see what else I would be doing if I didn't have to be constantly demonstrating that you don't WP:BEFORE adequately. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 04:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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Category:Robbery by year has been nominated for discussion
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DYK nomination of The Old Axolotl
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Pocket Bicycles Deletion tag deleted
such fun being meta. anyway, thanks for the headsup regarding this article. i found a reference, much to my own surprise, and kind of linked it (both directions) into what i consider its notability factor, i.e. the use of cables for stability in bike frames. which in its turn led to my impression that the whole concept of "bracing" with/without cables is terribly fragmented on wikipedia. so i did some mucking around in disambigs and see alsos, but probably will do more later. which will probably involve more linking to the pocket bikes page, maybe... anyway, removed the deletion notice, for now. thanks again. Gzuckier (talk) 21:14, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Aldus PhotoStyler, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Pavlor (talk) 16:16, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Holoverse
Hi, I have removed the prod tag you placed on Holoverse, as it was undeleted on May 8 ([15]) and per policy is ineligible for prod. I did this on procedural grounds only, and would not object to nominating this article at AfD. Thanks, —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:25, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
Why, exactly, do you continue nominating notable things for deletion? I've taught you to fish, and yet you don't appear to do even the most basic searches expected by WP:BEFORE. I've offered to pre-review fictional topics for you; you never do. What motivates you to behave in such an impolite manner? How can I motivate you to work collaboratively and follow best practices? Whatever that takes, it is almost certainly less work and less damaging to the encyclopedia than trying to clean up after your various inappropriate fictional element nominations... Jclemens (talk) 05:04, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
Where to request closure of Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#The criteria of WP:NSPORT here are too inclusive
The discussion (Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#The criteria of WP:NSPORT here are too inclusive) was listed at but then delisted from template:Centralized discussion. Before the listing, the discussion attracted participants. The listing might have attracted others more. How complex is the issue you raised? I want to request closure at either WP:ANRFC or WP:AN. --George Ho (talk) 04:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- – Thanks for the response. Yes, either an admin or an experienced uninvolved closer. I see that the "Question:Deletion" subsection is tagged with RFC. That can be still open, while the remainder above the subsection can be closed. If you can need just one closer, you can go to WP:ANRFC. If more than one closer, best to request it at WP:AN. Thoughts? --George Ho (talk) 15:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- – Okay. So... how many closers do you need? Therefore, I'll go to the right forum. --George Ho (talk) 04:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- Just wondering before I go to the right forum. How complex or simple is the issue that you raised there? George Ho (talk) 05:40, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- – No worries. I was precautious, so I started the subsection about closing it properly before requesting closure. Therefore, someone else can suggest either one or more closers. --George Ho (talk) 04:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
I requested a closure at WP:ANRFC. --George Ho (talk) 22:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
– Someone else suggested two-person closure, so I requested it at WP:AN#Re-requesting closure on RfC discussion about WP:NSPORTS. --George Ho (talk) 18:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Tagging articles for deletion
Hello, I've come across some articles you've nominated for deletion via proposed deletion. I just wanted to give you a heads up that the common best practice is to place deletion tags (speedy, prod, or AfD) at the very top of the article, before any maintenance tags. I have moved the tags you placed on Jedipedia.net and HashiCorp, as they were below the maintenance/problem tags. This is not a terribly big deal, since you still put the deletion tags at the top of the articles before the article text, but as I said before it's a common best practice.
Also it's not a good idea to embed an AfD tag within a {{multiple issues}} template, as the AfD tag gets obscured. I've moved the AfD tag you placed on Holoverse out of the {{multiple issues}} group and to the top of the article. Again, not really against policy as far as I know, just not good practice.
Since you're involved in nominating articles for deletion and adding maintenance tags to articles, and you've been around a while, I'd suggest enabling Twinkle on your account. It's completely optional, but it makes nominating articles for deletion and adding maintenance tags a lot easier. Thanks for your efforts to improve Wikipedia. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
SpiraTeam
Hello, I see your comments on the page I created. "I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:Nicacedric (WP:SPA, creator) with the following rationale "Thank you for your feedback or concern regarding notability. I respectfully but strongly disagree - please look at the 8th reference to see one of the strongest links proving that the information is verifiable and written by a third-party leader". I am not impressed by reference 8, a website with a title like http://searchsoftwarequality.techtarget.com seems almost to be saying 'we review whatever you pay us for'. TechTarget "sells marketing programs and data analytics services for targeted sales and marketing efforts". Marketing, aka spam, is what this entry is. Per WP:CORPSPAM, this is a good example of Yellow-Pages like company spam. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)"
I am a bit frustrated because, within the software industry, Tech Talks is actually a very reputable. Just to be clear, TechTarget writes articles only on the more important
products and I know the company did not pay anything to them for any reviews or write ups. What is notable for other products (e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranorex) that is not for SpiraTeam. All smaller companies all have lots of third party articles, studies, etc. so I am not clear what the
standard is exactly. People in the industry know of SpiraTeam and Ranorex. Gartner has included Inflectra SpiraTeam in its Magic Quadrant each year (only the top tools in the industry get
listed):
https://www.gartner.com/doc/2625917/magic-quadrant-application-development-life
https://www.gartner.com/doc/2037115/magic-quadrant-application-life-cycle
https://www.gartner.com/doc/2980720/magic-quadrant-application-development-life
I look forward to hearing from you and thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicacedric (talk • contribs) 18:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Cracow złoty
Piotrus,
At your request, I opened an RM. Also, I'm not Matthead, please refrain from making accusations like that.
Thanks,
Genealogizer (talk) 04:45, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
That doesn't look like Matthead. I doubt it's a new user or even someone who hasn't been involved in discussion regarding naming and diacritics previously, but not Matthead.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've been on Wikipedia for 15 months, so I'm not exactly new, but if you're insinuating that I'm the reincarnation of another Wikipedia user, you're wrong. Genealogizer (talk) 06:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
DYK review on Cenker
Thank you for the positive review. I request that e Columbia link not be added however. In fact adding any other links (like to RCA) would be a mistake. The reason is that if someone follows the Columbia link (or any other) from the hook to another article they will not see anything about the info I used in the hook. The Columbia article for example is a general article about that Space Shuttle. There is not even anything about Bob Cenker there, never mind anything about the narrowly averted explosion. If they are interested in details on Columbia, once they are reading the Cenker article, there are plenty of links not only to Columbia but other related items in the Cenker article, including the article for that specific shuttle mission, the Space Shuttle Program, NASA, RCA, etc. Thanks again! RobP (talk) 11:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Category:Political history of the Ottoman Empire has been nominated for discussion
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DYK nomination of The Old Axolotl
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Proposed deletion of Florence Gabrielle Abiola Adeniran
Hi Piotr,
For your consideration, this article meets criteria of General Notability and Notability (Biographies) because, in a country with the seventh largest population in the world (Nigeria, 186 million) and where female empowerment remains challenging, the person is the FIRST Nigerian woman to achieve national success at the highest institutional levels in the medical field which remains dominated by men and beginning at a time (1953) when such success was extraordinary. This is verifiable.
For people, however, rather than notability, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice" or "note" – that is, "remarkable" or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded" within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life.
To have been the only woman in medical school in West Africa from 1948 to 1953 is highly remarkable.
Any indigenous surgeon who was performing operations in West Africa in the 1950s is worthy of notice. There were so few.
This person was notable and remarkable enough to be photographed and published in Life Magazine (May 4, 1953), a reliable source, independent of the subject and the glossy magazine Wikipedia of its day.
This person is significant, whether dead or alive. It is incidental that the subject is alive.
The person is regarded as an important figure among peers and successors.
This person is well-known to have contributed greatly to the knowledge and management of malnutrition in maternal and child health among casualties during the Nigerian Civil War (1967 - 1970), a major historical event where between 500,000 and 2 million civilians died from starvation.
This person is very important to the history of women breaking boundaries per se.
The article has reliable information on the subject.
The article has been edited to be more neutral, verifiable, and encyclopedic about the person.
The article is sourced by sufficient reliable sources, independent of the subject. It should be borne in mind that 60 years ago and until recent times, record-keeping in the part of the world where the person is mainly situated has been historically poor. Internet upload of published sources remains scant.
Inline citations have been added to the article's list of references, related reading and external links.
Wikipedia appears to have few, if any, editors from West Africa who would readily understand the notability and nuance of this person among internet users in that part of the world. Some regions just happen to have more dedicated writers. Not to have this article because the person is perceptibly unknown or not well known among usual editors and usual readers encourages systemic bias on Wikipedia.
A couple of requests, Piotr:
(1) Kindly help to improve this article by further editing it to be more neutral and encyclopedic. (2) Kindly advice where to look for further sources to improve the article.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amadeniran (talk • contribs) 15:44, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
i guess we both made mistakes (your side made the biggest...no offence)
well i probably should have made a talkpage request for something this big but your talkpage discussion you mentioned is nonsense Talk:Polish People's Republic#Requested move → Polish People's Republic "really really real name of this state was never..bla bla bla", "English-language reliable sources" etc, see WP:COMMONNAME its not about real names or about "official names in "RELIABLE" sources" thats why we DO NOT have an article called "Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta" (Lady Gaga) nor does we call Manhattan "New York County" i do not come up with this examples myself but from one of the many Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines, this message is not meant to offend or to shout, in case am sorry if you think so Ukrainetz1 (talk) 08:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Sketchy Beats
Whilst the references which I added on this are admittedly few, the concept itself is (as far as I know) unique, and as it now seems reasonably established within the Edinburgh arts scene, I feel the concept of combining these artistic fields is noteworthy in its own right and likely to be expanded. The article is specifically written to focus upon the concept rather than the current cafe which houses the concept. There is a lot more newspaper and magazine coverage of the idea but I did not add all as it mainly repeated the main themes. Does it help if I add more of these references?? --Stephencdickson (talk) 11:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Sigma Software
YanaArb (talk) 13:28, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Piotr! I received the message about your feedback about my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Software
I guess I understood what was the problem with references and made corresponding edits. Hope the article is fine now. Thanks for your review and your time )
communist hungary, well i am disappointed but there is obviously nothing i can do about this, discussion over
well i am disappointed but there is obviously nothing i can do about this, discussion over Ukrainetz1 (talk) 02:52, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Euroleague for Life Sciences
I don't understand what's missing. Do you think ELLS is not notable enough to exist on Wikipedia? For example there is a short article about University of Hohenheim where they talk about world rankings and the ELLS network. You can see for yourself that ELLS is a big deal at several top-ranked Life Sciences universities/colleges across the world, including Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Austria, China, USA,... So I don't think the ELLS article is dubious or not notable enough. Heck, on the German wiki there is no problem with ELLS for ages... https://www.topagrar.com/news/Home-top-News-Uni-Ranking-Hohenheim-wieder-Deutschlands-Nr-1-2848627.html http://prazsky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/czu-klade-vetsi-duraz-na-vedu-chce-prilakat-zahranicni-studenty-20161022.html https://idw-online.de/de/news648330 Logbase10 (talk) 17:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
DYK for The Old Axolotl
On 5 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Old Axolotl, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that The Old Axolotl, an experimental electronic novel by Jacek Dukaj presenting a post-apocalyptic, cyberpunk vision of Earth, incorporates hypertext and 3D-printable models of its characters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Old Axolotl. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Old Axolotl), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Are you planning on closing this GAR soon? Its been up longer than it should have, really. GamerPro64 14:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Update: "Inclusivity" discussion about WP:NSPORTS closed
Hello again. Just to let you know, the discussion about WP:NSPORTS is closed. You may read the whole closing rationale. --George Ho (talk) 06:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Goodby
I have been topic banned (Soviet Union) after a dehumanizing Orwelian accusations. I'm leaving, thank you for your cooperation.Xx236 (talk) 07:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- If you rationalize the lynch on me, are you sure you are human? Maybe you are a bot?Xx236 (talk) 07:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Redirect
I made the redirect and if you find a similar article (subsidiary of this engineering company), just redirect it. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:56, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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Reference: Why the page on cinematographer Kamaljeet Negi perhaps ought to remain
Powerfulideas (talk) 18:16, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
(1) He's a cinematographer of 3 highly successful Hindi films.
On IMDB | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3007194/
(2) He has a page on the OFFICIAL websites of the British Film Institute, Sony, and Arriflex
On BFI website | https://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2bd1bb4d3c/ On Sony official site | https://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/broadcast-products-shooting-piku-with-the-sony-f65/ On Arriflex official site | http://www.arri.com/news/news/alexa-shoots-indian-spy-thriller/
(3) If sufficient citations aren't provided, it is primarily because most of them are in non-ENGLISH languages.
DYK nomination of Fugitive peasants
Hello! Your submission of Fugitive peasants at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HaEr48 (talk) 05:05, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Cenker DYK
Thanks for your DYK review and approval for the Robert J. Cenker article. After the article was approved (and moved to the Approved page here), another editor added complaints. I responded but now am wondering what happens next. Do you know if this has blocked the DYK from progressing? RobP (talk) 13:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Can you please respond to the comment for this DYK so it can move along. Thanks! RobP (talk) 20:32, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for resolving this DYK! RobP (talk) 18:26, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
We could use your help in reviewing some translations from Polish to English Comment
Piotrus 15:27 4 Oct 2025 : == Can you help verify translations of articles from Polish ==
Hello Piotrus,
Would you be able to help evaluate the accuracy of translations of Wikipedia articles from Polish to English Wikipedia?
This would involve evaluating a translated article on the English Wikipedia by comparing it to the original Polish article, and marking it "Pass" or "Fail" based on whether the translation faithfully represents the original. Here's the reason for this request:
There are a number of articles on English Wikipedia that were created as machine translations from different languages including Polish , using the Content Translation tool, sometimes by users with no knowledge of the source language. The config problem that allowed this to happen has since been fixed, but this has left us with a backlog of articles whose accuracy of translation is suspect or unknown, including some articles translated from Polish. In many cases, other editors have come forward later to copyedit and fix any English grammar or style issues, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the translation is accurate, as factual errors from the original translation may remain. To put it another way: Good English is not the same as good translation.
If you can help out, that would be great. Here's a sample of the articles that need checking:
- Jerzy_Juliusz_Kijowski ✓ Pass
- Polish_Hamlet._Portrait_of_Aleksander_Wielopolski ✓ Pass
- Góra Ziuty ✓ Pass
- Agnieszka_Popielewicz ✓ Pass
- Krzeszowskie_Wzgórza ✓ Pass
All you have to do, is compare the English article to the Polish article, and assess them "Pass" or "Fail" (the {{Pass}} and {{Fail}} templates may be useful here). (Naturally, if you feel like fixing an inaccurate translation and then assessing it, that's even better, but it isn't required.) Also please note that we are assessing accuracy not completeness, so if the English article is much shorter that is okay, as long as whatever has been translated so far is factually accurate.
If you can help, please {{ping}} me here to let me know. You can add your pass/fails above, right next to each link, or you may indicate your results below. Thanks! Elinruby (talk) 00:16, 9 June 2017 (UTC) Elinruby (talk) 00:26, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: Done. If there is a list of backlog for Polish translation, please post at WT:POLAND. But in some cases, like the Hamlet article, as well as for Agnieszka Popielewicz, it is clear that it was not a machine translation, but a well done translation, so the backlog seems to have a lot of false flags; making us review those articles is a waste of time, I think. Notes: in JJK article I didn't touch the physic science terminology. I also c/e Góra Świętej Anny (Krzeszowskie Wzgórza), probably created by the same editor as did GZ and the Krzeszowskie Wzgórza articles. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
- I kind of agree with the waste of time comment, but the alternative was seeing them deleted. So I thank you for your patience with the matter.. essentially someone got the idea that anything that used the CTX tool was garbage, and while there was in fact some garbage created, it was in my opinion no more so than in articles that did not use this tool. But I don't speak Polish at all and so could not speak for these articles. Thank you for your time and I will pass along your assessment. Elinruby (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
DYK for Fugitive peasants
On 18 June 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fugitive peasants, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one of the reasons for the partitioning of Poland was the thousands of Russian peasants escaping from serfdom to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fugitive peasants. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fugitive peasants), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello. I nominated the redirect page WP:OBITUARY for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 18#Wikipedia:Obituary, where I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 16:01, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Reply
Thank you for your help I hope I can ask you for help in the future on additional contributions, as they will all be re Poles. Is there a way I can save your talk page for future communication...the advice of using drafts first..simple but excellent... --Gzegosh (talk) 11:42, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Piotrus I have been fighting a lonely battle for Poland. I have produced one book in English, and am finishing a second. And there are two large project in conjunction with the Sikorski Institute. I truly believe than in typical Polish fashion it is hard to get the Poles to get their stories out there. The West has little understanding of Poland, and partly because there is not enough information out there. And as you say Wikkipedia is the place of the future, and present. Which is why I started this effort. And yes its a bit discouraging to have so many beat one up. I will try to continue and not give up. But many comments are not very logical. There are plenty of Wikipedia pages out there with little importance or few references...I will join the Poland desk. Again it is all a matter of persepctive. A mid level US dimplomat in the State Dept will have his page but will be uninteresting to Poles, and will not have a page in Polish Wikipedia. English Wikipedia should be seen not exclusively as a US domain...its where most worldwide info should be...so dificil to measure under an " American" viewpoint. --Gzegosh (talk) 10:48, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
Witam Forgive me for so many questions..I have been involved actively in Wikipedia for less than a month, and so have just begun the learning curve, and feel a bit blind, and groping my way along. 1. I have now various pages up for review and wonder when their fate will be decided: Aleksander Piotr Mohl, Karol Hutten-Czapski(seems like will not be deleted...but still does not appear in a google search),and in the draft box as you suggested, Francis Stanislaw Hutten-Czapski. Could you take a look at these three to see where I stand with them? The complaint of not enough references for Mohl I think is more than satisfied now...at least I hope so..must be over 30 refs. 2. Cant find where to add watch list on WP Poland..obviously dont want to put myself on list of Talks as editor, as I know so little.
3. I have asked various times on how to get into edit categories or actual references...
, which I guess is the template...but as I say cant figure out how to access it, to make revisions or additions.
4. My idea is to start building on the Czpaski family, which I know and have some references in my library. There are many Polish patriots in that family that are not included in Wikipedia(Bogdan/Emeryk Augustus, Maria, etc) 5. I also would like to help re military subjects, but when I check out specific pages, is that there are editors that have overwhelmingly more knowledge than I do. SO not so sure how much help I can be
again forgive me...but I do need a guide of sorts Pozdrawiam --Gzegosh (talk) 11:00, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
- Not sure why your reply to me dosent appear here. I thank you again for your guidance. Obviously your cleaning up of the references looks ten times better...As I have said I just cant figure out how to access the individual refs to edit them. I have been going around in circles. If I go to Karol Czapski, and I press the main page edit button...all is accesible...except the refs..which appear as Reflist without showing the individual refs..I cant figure it out. I use URLs directly to imbed the ref, because I cant access the detail below the ref heading, and therefore cant type in the description and link the URL in the ref detail...so i do the shortcut of inserting the URL alone. I would like to clean up Karol as you did Francis. Following your advice went to User:Zhaofeng Li/reFill page..and it suggested paste Cleanup-bare URLs on the bottom of the refs...I really would like to be less of a bother and at the same time more productive. I am not a young man, and do not have enough expertise or techincal experience or understanding to follow all the lingo. I will try to follow your suggestions. I do have the editor accepted. I see you apparenly left the Pilsudski Institute. An uncle of mine used to work there, Francis Pusloski. But that was many years ago, he passed away in the 90s. On the talk page in the help page I asked if there was anyway to hire a Wikepedian editor or expert to help out on this project. And by the way you are right..leaving Mohls page open..has helped me, also into delving deeper into research...which has been an interesting experience....Icewhiz found an interesting reference..of some disciplinary action against Mohl in 1942, and I wonder if it is a consequence of the Donovan leak. I am contacting the Hoover Institute to try to get into that file.
Thank you thank you... --Gzegosh (talk) 08:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
- Got it...got the bit re the references...I finally got it...I didnt realize you had to edit in the body of the text and not in the list of refs...I laos as I said...am a dinasaur compared to you guysprobably the oldest guy contributing to Wikiepdia..or close to it!
Happy Birthday!
No need to reply here (or at all if you disagree), but I've dug up another of the "Open Access in..." articles which may be a sensible merge target for a sentence or three. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 08:16, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
you did something, but i don't know, what :-)
Hi, dear Piotrus,
you did something with the Molitor & Kuzmin-Site, but i can't see, what? Did i do something wrong??? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 13:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
CitrusPay article deletion
Citrus Pay article is satisfying all the wiki guidelines including notability and neutrality and has good sources and is known and famous fintech company in India. Which also got acquired through one of the highest all cash transaction deals.
Please mention exactly what triggered to delete this article move for this one.
Belated Birthday Wishes, Piotrus.:) Is there anything in specific which you want to mention about? Theaphorist (talk) 16:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
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Complaint against the aticles deletion
Dear Piotrus,
I learn that you are one of the super active and most active Wiki contributors. I can't help but say that your marked for deletion/deletions/redirects of Citrus Pay, Little Eye Labs, FINO PayTech, Paytm Payments Bank etc are in poor taste. Either you did not spend time to Google about the subject of those articles for relevance and notability or you are not aware of the companies mentioned in those articles or the business value/notability of those companies in Indian context or this is a pure case of prodding in connection with the article discussions of a previous another article (Id fresh foods). [where the majority who might know about the company (Indian context) have voted to KEEP].
I believe marking these articles as stub would have been more than necessary if you were unsure about the relevance. I would like to bring it to the attention of the people who might have a neutral and unbaised view about the articles mentioned above with some regional wiki members (to help with context and the following article's need to exist interms of influence in the economy/culture) can also voice their opinion about the relevancy. I hope you point me to the right people, links to take this conflict resolution forward. Thank you.
PS: I totally respect the vast contributions you have made to Wiki community and wish to do achieve even a fraction of you did, nothing personal here. The work you do here, the efforts you put in and the time to dedicate is highly commendable. Theaphorist (talk) 11:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Dziękuję za odpowiedź, niemniej
- Mój angielski czy moje złe maniery to drobiazgi.
- Bezprawie
- Europejskie prawo opiera się na zasadzie Nemo iudex in causa sua. Gdy grupa zbiera się i wymierza sprawiedliwość, to jest Lynching.
- Osoby które akceptują lynching są współwinne, a takie które umywają ręce przechodzą do historii jak Piłat.
- Wikipedia ma procedury rozwiązywania konfliktów, które jednych obowiązują, innych nie obowiązują, bo mogą wykluczać i cenzurować.
- Cenzura
- Ze względu na tematyczny zakaz nie mogę wprowadzić do artykułu o Leninie liczby osób, które zginęły pod jego rządami - 9 milionów za Richard Pipes, A concise history of the Russian Revolution (1995): 9 million deaths, 1917-1922
- Nie po to walczyłem z cenzurą w PRL, żeby teraz akceptować krętactwa brytyjskich lewaków.
- Wykluczenie cyfrowe - Digital exclusion red!
- Jestem wykluczony z racji wieku, słabej znajomości angielskiego, którego w mojej wsi nie uczono.
- Oszustwo
- Jeżeli jestem wikipedyjnym przestępcą, to zawsze taki byłem, więc wszystkie moje edycje stron o ZSRR powinny zostać usunięte.Xx236 (talk) 11:32, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
- Ja nie mam czasu czekać, bo jestem stary. Zresztą czekałem w PRL.
- W polskiej Wikipedii administratorzy zajmują się usuwaniem nowych artykułów, ciekawe ile osób w ten sposób zniechęcili. Ja przeglądałem setki nowych artykułów w angielskiej i były jasne reguły.Xx236 (talk) 05:44, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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Yet another BEFORE failure. What happened? I've showed you how to check for sources... did you not find any, or did you not try? Let me help you here... Jclemens (talk) 02:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Marion Buller
FYI, I unprodded Marion Buller, which you prodded. I think she has sufficient on-going, in-depth, and reliably published coverage to pass WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of NeuronDotNet, Amebis, SendEmail, Accord.NET and Xwt
Hello Piotrus,
Thank you for informing me about the proposed deletion of articles from the title.
I disagree with proposed deletion of some of these articles. Please refer to the argument on my talk page:
- Arguments against deletion of NeuronDotNet, Amebis, SendEmail, Accord.NET and Xwt on my talk page.
I have put some specific arguments and suggestions on the respective articles' talk pages. --Ajgorhoe (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
WikiCup 2017 July newsletter
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Oleg Bezuglov for deletion
Dear Piotrus,
I have added more facts and sources to the Oleg Bezuglov article. I was wondering if you read my justification points for matching the WP:MUSICBIO criteria, and whether you still think the article deserves to be nominated for deletion? Thanks! Fiddler11 14:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
AfD for Amos Lim
Hi Piotrus! Thank you for providing your input on the first AfD for Amos Lim on 15 December 2016. The article was deleted on 23 December 2016. Unfortunately, the article was recreated by a disruptive user and I am nominating the article again for its 2nd deletion. Please kindly proceed to the AfD and voice out your opinion on whether the article should be deleted, again. Thanks! DerricktanJCW (talk) 02:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Deprodding of Xwt
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from Xwt, which you proposed for deletion. I think this should not just disappear from Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what would be the right thing to do with it and currently have no time to do any "research". I would leave this to somebody who knows better/can invest time. Constructive would be to express proposals on the talk page and template it further.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the file. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
I included additional explanation on my talk page: Arguments against deletion of NeuronDotNet, Amebis, SendEmail, Accord.NET and Xwt --Ajgorhoe (talk) 02:52, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your notices regarding AfD (Xwt and NeuronDotNet). I've got involved in discussion, will try to provide further arguments. --Ajgorhoe (talk) 03:49, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
DYK for Mead in Poland
On 2 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mead in Poland, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2013, Poland became the world's largest producer of mead made according to traditional methods (example pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mead in Poland. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mead in Poland), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hello everyone
Myself Vinit Mohan Singh from India.I am very glad to be here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsvinit942 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017
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DYK for Elevated park
On 6 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elevated park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that elevated parks are becoming more common, inspired by the success of New York's High Line? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Elevated park), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
DYK for Janina Goss
On 8 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Janina Goss, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Janina Goss has been described as the "power behind the throne" in modern Polish politics? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Janina Goss. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Janina Goss), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Requires cleanup
"I am not going to waste more time citing further examples, but I've seen this happen enough times. Someone (me...) references sentences. Someone else copyedits the article, removing what they think of are excess citations. AND/OR Someone else breaks paragraphs, creating unreferenced ones. People complain, article is seen as unreferenced, even through someone either took the time to properly reference every sentence (or didn't...). Teeth grinding ensues. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)"
I would like your signature removed from the essay. Other essays link to your essay. If you don't have time to improve that wording I can give it a try. I would like to edit the essay. QuackGuru (talk) 01:04, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Which essay are you talking about? Please link it. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:36, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Remember "Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited". QuackGuru (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- @QuackGuru: Sure. I moved it to Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited and removed my signature, try your hand and rewriting it. Thanks for your interest, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- I wanted to give it a little touch up. It needed a shortcut and a nutshell statement. I did that. QuackGuru (talk) 18:24, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- @QuackGuru: Sure. I moved it to Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited and removed my signature, try your hand and rewriting it. Thanks for your interest, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Remember "Wikipedia:Why most sentences should be cited". QuackGuru (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
New contributor for Poland Portal
Hello! I'm interested in helping out in the Poland portal, but I'm new to contributing to Wikipedia so I don't really know where to start or where to go to connect with others also working on it. From what I can see you seem to be one of the main contributors in the area, so I thought I'd ask you for help. Do you have any advice? I'm up for pretty much anything, but especially geography, history, and music (particularly classical, traditional, and patriotic). Dziękuję! UninventiveWithUsernames (talk) 15:36, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Embassy of Japan, Seoul
Hello! Your submission of Embassy of Japan, Seoul at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 22:36, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
reference needed
Could you take a look at Konstanty Kazimierz Brzostowski--the only reference is a self-published book by an author whose WP article just got deleted. I'm sure you can find better DGG ( talk ) 06:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Nyaa Torrents "forks"
I've reverted you again with Special:Diff/790193388 in article Nyaa Torrents. The edit summary box was a little short for this, but I'll point out multiple issues with your edit:
In the following weeks
seems to be original research, not included in the reference cited and thus broadly interpreted. The date of updated publication may also shift well into the future, which also makes this claim potentially unreliable/unverifiable.- No other reports in computer media have seemingly taken note of the clones listed. Compare to isoHunt article in example, where
[o]ne of them — isohunt.to — became a de facto replacement of the original site.
WP:VERIFIABILITY is in question again. Likely WP:SELFPUBLISHED or WP:USERGENERATED, no information available of authorship or editorial policies there. If torrents.me was notable, it would probably have its own Wikipedia article – currently, it does not. - The website (torrents.me) seems to promote self-interests, such as a VPN service (an ad disguised next to the search?) and their own search engine for torrents.
- It's borderline WP:ELNEVER.
2001:2003:54FA:D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 06:31, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Third opinion decline
I have removed your submission at WP:3O. After reviewing the Talk page for the article in question, I note that there has not been a thorough discussion there. Please be aware that there must be significant discussion at the Talk page as a prerequisite for requesting a third opinion. If you feel that further discussion at the Talk page currently will not be productive, I would invite you to consider other forms of dispute resolution. Thank you for your understanding. DonIago (talk) 16:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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DYK for White House visitor logs
On 18 July 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article White House visitor logs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that disclosure of White House visitor logs have been the subject of several lawsuits brought by government transparency activists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/White House visitor logs. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, White House visitor logs), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
RE: "experienced" editor and removing CSD
I was in the midst of filing an SPI report when I got distracted earlier but also check out the user in questions edits & this. The 007 really seals the deal for me and the specific, consistent interest in the AfD'd article/subjects. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments
I appreciate your feedback on my Talk page about my recent articles. I was not aware there is a T:TDYK area, and when I have the opportunity to work on those articles more, I might need some help if I choose to add them. Thank you for your encouragement.Al Leluia81 (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Bonzai moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Bonzai, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " Nevermind, mistake on my part, please ignore. — InsertCleverPhraseHere 01:51, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please follow the prompts on the Articles for Creation template atop the page.
DYK nomination of Embassy of Japan, Seoul
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Witam Prokonsulu!
I would like to change the title of History of Poles in Königsberg to History of Poles in Königsberg and Kaliningrad. Would you be so kind and advise me on how I go about doing so? Orestek (talk) 18:34, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Embassy of Japan, Seoul
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Piotrus, could you please continue your review of this nomination, at least to the point of adding whatever icon you feel is appropriate? Also, if there is more that the nominator needs to do, please be sure to specify what that is. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
1. You wrote: In February, I got around to trying to contact WVS team about their extensive and long term copying of content ...
As you may have noted, not only they have not rectified it, but also the useful Cultural Map of the World that you mentioned therein is gone from Wikimedia by now. :(. (I wonder if we can use your Cultural Maps of the World to illustrate it instead... )
2. A propos, czy zauważyłeś, iż Polska 'awansowała' z "African-Islamic" (1992) przez South Asia do grupy "Latin America" (2014) ;)
3. Z ciekawości osobistej, jeśliś aktywnym (= płatnym) członkiem organizacji M - czy bywasz na zebraniach jakiegoś GR? Zezen (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Piotrus/South Korean scandals
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DYK for Embassy of Japan, Seoul
On 25 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Embassy of Japan, Seoul, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Japanese embassy in Seoul has seen decades of protests, from weekly demonstrations to the throwing of Molotov cocktails, truck-ramming, self-immolation, and outright ransacking? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Embassy of Japan, Seoul. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Embassy of Japan, Seoul), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
It's not just Polish names
Sadly. Thanks for speaking sense. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- What makes it slightly more annoying is that this account Siobhán → Siobhan , Romani -> Gypsies RM, Pszczyna Castle (Genealogizer moved page Pszczyna Castle to Pless Castle: More common name) is clearly a former User and past activist on "English names"/diacritics returning with the same agenda under a new account. At first I thought it was Kauffner, but Kauffner already has one sock active and this one cites OED constantly rather than Britannica. There's no way this is a new User, do you recognize him? In ictu oculi (talk) 12:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- Found him. Left a message on new accounts page. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- And initiated Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bobby Martnen. There must be other accounts pre-2014, but not sure which. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- Found him. Left a message on new accounts page. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
@In ictu oculi: I've sent you an email. I don't want to even name some people here, per WP:DFTT. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:07, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- Got it, will keep an eye out but don't see diffs on that one indicating the same sock. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Jingu Bashi
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Round 4 of the WikiCup has ended and we move forward into the final round. In round 4, a total of 12 FAs, 3 FLs, 44 GAs, 3 FLs, 79 DYKs, 1 ITN and 42 GARs was achieved, with no FPs or FTs this time. Congratulations to Peacemaker67 on the Royal Yugoslav Navy Good Topic of 36 items, and the 12 featured articles achieved by Cas Liber (5), Vanamonde93 (3), Peacemaker67 (2), Adityavagarwal (1) and 12george1 (1). With a FA scoring 200 points, and bonus points available on top of this, FAs are likely to feature heavily in the final round. Meanwhile Yellow Evan, a typhoon specialist, was contributing 12 DYKs and 10 GAs, while Adityavagarwal and Freikorp topped the GAR list with 8 reviews each. As we enter the final round, we are down to eight contestants, and we would like to thank those of you who have been eliminated for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. The lowest score needed to reach round 5 was 305, and I think we can expect a highly competitive final round.
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DYK for Jingu Bashi (Tokyo)
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Grand Duchy of Kraków
Well I think that shows how easy titling issues can be when the "English name" socks aren't present. But, if you don't mind this comment, it would help if Polish editors took a broader view of this problem on en.wp. The "English name" nuisance affects other articles too. It would be nice if Polish editors also took an interest in Spanish, Serbian etc titles - the "English name" socks certainly do. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:11, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Organization and social movements
At Talk:Antifa there is a discussion about whether a social movement can be classified as an organization. I took a look at the article Organization and as someone who has studied a bit of organizational theory I think it's dreadful. Sections that don't match their main article, sections that are nonsense, etc. I'm also not sure about the definition. I rather like the definition in this version but I can't source it. Or rather I can, it seems to have been used in a number of books - published after it was added to our article. Typical. But it's been changed since.
I don't know what to do about the article. I'm tempted to gut it. I wish I could find a mainstream definition for the lead also.
Back to Antifa - one issue was the infobox. There don't seem to be any for political or social movements.
None of this might interest you of course, so feel free to ignore it all! It's not a high priority for me in any case. But you're the only one I can find who seems to have had some interest in the area. Doug Weller talk 09:40, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. But I've been clumsy in my wording and the name of the article. The discussion is at Talk:Antifa (United States)#Organisation categories. But I'm glad you posted where you did as that's a useful comment. Doug Weller talk 10:46, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Index of Articles Relating to Terms of Service and Privacy Policies
You proposed deletion, and I responded on Talk:Index_of_Articles_Relating_to_Terms_of_Service_and_Privacy_Policies. I didn't remove deletion tag yet, since I didn't understand where you saw original research in the article, so i wanted to ask about that before removing the tag. Numbersinstitute (talk) 23:27, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
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Nomination of Julia Schramm for deletion
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Vandalism on Racism in South Korea
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hello Mr.K
I have finished the Wiki training/ student please check thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloudorca92 (talk • contribs) 05:53, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
[Hanyang Univ. Sociology of Globalization] 2013051473 Jaewoong Kim & 2013051644 Sunbo Sim
Hi professor! We hope you to feedback our topic.
We chose topic "혼족(Hon-Zok)" that means people who are accustomed to enjoy their life alone.
We are going to create new article in Korea Wikipedia so we made simple contents
1. Concept
2. Social Background
3. Type
-Eating alone -Drinking alone -Enjoying hobby alone
4. Result
5. Reference
Thank you for reading. Please tell us if we miss something to add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunbo123 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
I want to post about Erasmus Programme in English.
There are a lot of information about Erasmus Programme in Korea wikipedia. So I want to translate them in English wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mingyeongjooo (talk • contribs) 08:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Kim minseong did assignment.
I did wikipedia: Training/ For students.
My name is Kim minseong and my student number is 2012046805--Amxk12 (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
[Hanyang Univ. Sociology of Globalization] 2012046731 Heo Yoonjae
Sorry. I forgot to save the page. I sign my post now. I would appreciate your confirmation. Thanks. --Somegreen (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia themes / Anna Carel
Hello Mr,
I am in a group with 2 other people : Min Gyeong Joo & Jeon Seung-Hyeon Our English theme to translate in Korean is "Erasmus Program", and our korean theme to translate in english is "Namdaemun Combat".
Thank you, Anna Carel--Annakrl (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I completed the Wikipedia Training/for students!
Hello! My name is So-jeong Yeon. I completed 'the Wikipedia Training/for students' and I got the training certificate. So I leave this talk message to prove that. Please check this, Thank you~--Yeon So Jeong (talk) 04:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Piotrus we are Hyuckchun and Yongil. We got a subject of this project.
Hi professor. We are students of department of Journalbism & Masscommunucation. Hyuckchun Park and Yongil Seon. We talk about topic many kinds but there are definite and many explanation. So we think what we choose and finally select korean language '국뽕' 'Gukbbong' 'Gukbbong' is a compound of nation and philopon. We use this word in many interesting situation. So we will search this word's birth, reference, social problem and so on. How do you think about this? If we need a additory things, give us advise. Thank you. Have a nice day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 박혁춘 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- (by talk page stalker) @박혁춘: Why are you sharing accounts? We have a rule prohibiting sharing. Please tell your instructor. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the last message
Mr.K
I'm sorry that I have done my Wiki training but I didn't verify myself.
I'm Hyunwoo Shin, Senior Advertising major student.
I'm taking your Globalization Sociology course.
Wikipedia article topic
- Team member: So-jeong Yeon, Na Ji-eun (2 members)
- English Wikipedia article(EW): The topic of EW which we selected is the Spirited Garden. The 'Spirited Garden' is a famous tourist attraction in Jeju-do which former presidents of Korea, and well-known people from all over the world visited. There is no Wikipedia article about this, though it is known as one of the most beautiful garden in the world. So we will make new page.
- Korean Wikipedia article(KW): We will start to write new article about Erving Goffman's theory in his book, ' The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life. ' He said that when an individual comes in contact with another person, he or she attempts to control or guide the impression. We think Goffman's theory is appropriate to explain the behavior of individuals in the globalization phenomenon that many people all over the world can be connected and communicate with each others through Facebook(SNS) today.
I should be grateful if you would give us some feedback. Thank you.--Yeon So Jeong (talk) 10:44, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Wiki article topic for Global Sociology assignment
Mr.K
I want to let you know that me(Hyunwoo Shin) and Gwanyoung Park have made up a team for the Wiki assignment.
We are going to work on Korean Character marketing.
As far as we know, emoji was first developed in far east culture, such as Japan, China, and Korea.
Now that it is popular world wide, we thought that Asian character industry can not be ignored.
Please let us know if there are any suggestion as we work on our project.
Thank you
Hyunwoo Shin Cloudorca92 (talk) 13:55, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Globalization Sociology Team (Yun Hui Shim & Ji Yong Kim)
Hello. Professor. We are 'Globalization Sociology' Team (Yun Hui Shim & Ji Yong Kim) We chose the topic of Wikipedia as ' Korea's Web Contents ' Webtoons, Web novels, etc. We're going to look for a variety of Web content, and look into how it's going to spread across the world. Is our topic interesting? I want to show you how a web novel becomes a web drama. That's the latest trend in Korea. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shim yun hui (talk • contribs) 08:58, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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globalization sociology (2012047886 Dong June Yoo)
Dear Professor, My name is Dong-June Yoo. (Student Number: 201204886) I formed a group with Seok Gyun Ko and completed the Wikipedia training for Student. We chose the topic "따봉충," which refers to someone, usually Internet broadcasters, who publically do anything on broadcast to get attention, and they usually ask viewers to hit the subscribe button and the like button on the webpage. I will inform you with more details after I discuss with my group member.--Djyoo1110 (talk) 03:36, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
it was a mistake i did that ok
Leszek, Duke of Masovia
Hello Piotrus. I have expanded the article about Leszek, Duke of Masovia. I think it deserved GA, but it needed some language improve as my English is not good enough. Could you proofreading this article or pointed some Wikipedian who could do it? I leaved a message on WikiProject Poland/Reviwes, but (suprise!) no response. Best regards Swetoniusz (talk) 07:59, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank You very much! Swetoniusz (talk) 22:27, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Your contributed article, Cyber security
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DYK for Kraków Fire of 1850
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Dzień dobry! It is Jeon Seung-hyun [Sociology of Globalization]
Dzień dobry! It is Jeon Seung-hyun [Jack] who listens to Sociology of Globalization.
My activity topics are as follows. English theme is 'ERASMUS Program' and Korean theme is 'Namdaemun Combat'
My team members are Joo Min-Gyeong and Anna Carel.
I hope to be a fruitful activity in the future. Thank you.
Sociology of Globalization (jinsol Park 2015048304& Ha Eun Kang 2016012879)
We've completed our Wikipedia training. Our group topic is "Cheering Culture of Baseball in Korea" both in English and Korean. We discussed this topic with you before, and you said this topic is okay if it has enough sources.\ We've looked it up and found sources in newes from US and Korea. And there were plenty of Korean bloges introducing this topic. Thank you! Wikipedia ID: Jinsol96/Louise Kang --Jinsol96 (talk) 06:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC) --Louise Kang (talk) 06:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
globalization sociology (jiwonpark, 2013048967)
Hello professor. I completed Wikipedia training for student. Thank you!
Sock latest edit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Academicoffee71 .. this is disturbing. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:20, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Census Map - reuse
Piotrus,
I would like your written permission to use a photo of the 1931 census map - Mother tongue Poland 1931 which you posted on Wikipedia. I am publishing a book and need this permission. It is one of best resources explaining how dominant the Ukrainian population was in the area where my parents grew up - Stanisławów Województwo.
Thank you, Barbara Serbinski Sipe barbmsipe@gmail.com
- Hi, Barbara. Please read "Talk:Polish census of 1931/Archive 3" available at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Polish_census_of_1931/Archive_3 — The file was uploaded by User talk:Krzysztoflew~enwiki on July 17, 2007. It was moved to Commons by User:Piotrus. Piotrus is not its author, Poeticbent talk 20:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I have just finished another article. I would like to ask you to check language as I want to nominate this article for GA. Best regards Swetoniusz (talk) 14:51, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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Move review
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- Damn, whats that smell! [16][17] - LouisAragon (talk) 13:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017
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Hotel Polski
Check out talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.55.139 (talk) 00:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I was also on wiki-holidays. Regards Swetoniusz (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
About our topic (character marketing)
We had a conversation about my team research project for Wiki, and you told me that I should suggest you some kind of paper that illustrates my topic. Here is one example of reference that I can work on (http://aodr.org/xml/01492/01492.pdf) I want to restate that I'm going to organize details of not only marketing side of the industry, but influences of Korean illustrators overseas.
Thank you. Hyunwoo Shin and Gwanyoung Park Gwan0404 (talk) 06:23, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of Anastasia Huppmann
The contents of this entry are 100% valid and can be checked against the biography available on the official website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sina.khorasani (talk • contribs) 08:04, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
FYI: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 September 26. The article was rewritten, so please nominate it for a new AfD as per the closing rationale. Cheers – filelakeshoe (t / c) 09:11, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Piotrus (talk · contribs) Hi Piotrus - I apologize for being both representing a corp and for SPA -- my other account has my edits on my personal interests, and I didn't want to mix those. I know lacking other references hurts this account's credibility. I believe I am editing in good faith, and I do think the company is at a notable scale that warrants a Wikipedia page. I'd request that you look at pages of other companies in the industry, and ask if all of those pages would also be justified for an AfD. Smaller company examples: Verbling, Preply, Memrise. Larger or comparably-sized companies: Duolingo, Wyzant, VIPKID. Their pages are generally worse in both neutrality and in notable non-PR references. I am also trying to understand what is the threshold for notability. I believe italki is notable enough (as are those other companies and pages). Kshanghai (talk) 08:29, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Entry Anastasia Huppmann
She is, in fact, a notable pianist, as her many awards show. You need to reconsider this by carefully reading her awards and repertoir, which includes Beethoven's Appassionnata (one of the most difficult works ever written for piano), and many of the most complicated works of the notable pianist Franz Liszt and Chopin. What other evidence do you want to accept that Ms Huppmann is a remarkable pianist indeed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sina.khorasani (talk • contribs) 10:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Books and Bytes - Issue 24
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Category:Military operations involving Polish resistance during World War II has been nominated for discussion
Category:Military operations involving Polish resistance during World War II, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Alcherin (talk) 22:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
Removal of Deletion Notice
Piotrus, please remove the deletion notice for Anastasia Huppmann. Sufficient evidence and arguments are provided and other people also recommend keeping it.
SARP
Dzięki za informacje, dodam coś od siebie. BTW: Zgłosiłeś w polskiej do DNU oddział poznański. Nie wszystkie oddziały są ency, ale ten akurat powinien zostać. Jest niezależny, przyznaje własne nagrody za działalność na rzecz wielkopolskiej architektury, np. pl:Honorowa Nagroda Oddziału Poznańskiego SARP. Pozdrawiam. Anonim WX (talk) 12:08, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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RE: Proposed deletion of RadioBOSS
Hello Piotrus! The main purpose of article about "RadioBOSS" is to provide general information about the software to people. Provided that Wikipedia has lists of internet radio software, or radio automation software, why not list RadioBOSS there, as it's a perfect fit into those categories?
RadioBOSS is very well known in its own niche and it's been around for a long time, almost 15 years. I can provide more links to sites related to the topic where RadioBOSS is reviewed or discussed or job vacancies where "RadioBOSS knowledge" is a requirement, if needed.
As for categories, article about RadioBOSS fits the "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Internet_radio_software" or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Streaming_software category. Most of the software listed in those categories are referenced by their own web sites (I can give you examples if you like), so my article with some external sources, like reviews from software web sites, seems OK.
Thank you for your time.
giedroyc doctrine
Giedroyc–Mieroszewski doctrine please merge into your i didnd see. I have difficulties w computer. - üser:Altenmann >t 00:13, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Template:Chaebol
Just to say thanks for raising the TfD. As the editor who started this (rather quiet) debate, I'd like to contribute but I don't know the subject well enough to give an opinion. (I was just in there to fix bad links such as STX.) Certes (talk) 10:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
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The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:
- First Place - Adityavagarwal (submissions)
- Second Place - Vanamonde (submissions)
- Third Place - Cas Liber (submissions)
In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
- Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
- Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
- Featured List – Bloom6132 (submissions) and 1989 (submissions) both produced 2 FLs in R2
- Featured Pictures – SounderBruce (submissions) improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
- Featured Topic – MPJ-DK (submissions) has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
- Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
- Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
- In The News – MBlaze Lightning (submissions) had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
- Good Article Review – Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (submissions) completed 31 GARs in R1.
Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.
Regarding the prize vouchers - @Adityavagarwal, Vanamonde93, Casliber, Bloom6132, 1989, and SounderBruce: please send Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) an email from the email address to which you would like your Amazon voucher sent. Please include your preference of global Amazon marketplace as well. We hope to have the electronic gift cards processed and sent within a week.
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Piotr, We changed our topic of English Wikipedia article.
- Team member: Na Ji-eun, So-jeong Yeon (2 members)
Piotr, we changed our topic of English Wikipedia article. Our subject was the 'Spirited Garden'. But, when we write the article about this, we are afraid that this tourist attraction is managed by private agencies(it could be advertisement and promotion problem) although it is famous. So we selected other subject, 'oreum(오름)' It is a rising small defunct volcanoes in the Jeju island. There are some famous tourists. There is no article about 'oreum' so we'll create new one and we also confirmed some materials and journals about it. We hope to listen to your opinion and get some feedback.--175.223.44.17 (talk) 08:30, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- I think this is a very good idea to write about a natural attraction instead. You can still try to create a small article for SG for extra credit if you want. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:46, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
We want to add our link on Eng wikipedia article
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q965395#sitelinks-wikipedia
please help out us :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doldoli012 (talk • contribs) 03:29, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
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Category:Polish resistance fighters of World War II has been nominated for discussion
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Dear Porf. Pioturs.
Hello prof Pioturs. This is byungdo jung who graduated hanyang few years ago. I am studying theology and philosophy in catholic univ of korea.
I've learned precious, fantastic subjects in here. Sometime I saw that there is no online archive about my new major, though we already had thousands tons of paper book. So I plan to edit some korean wikipedia about theology and philosophy. It must be a kind of struggle, though, also become a devotional work as well. I will do my best in here and please help me when I need your advice.
All the best. Byungdo Jung. (Thomas Aquinas) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byung do jung (talk • contribs) 00:27, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
X Raion, X District vs X district
"raion" is translated as "district", except for the rural ones in Ukraine. Where it is translated the articles about individual entities are named "X District" - except for South Ossetia-Alania. Also everywhere else it is X Type: Bochnia County, Masovian Voivodeship, Buenos Aires Province, Moscow Oblast... 1 item out of 100000 not named with uppercase was proposed for renaming to keep the naming in enWP consistent https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dzau_district&oldid=809879398 85.180.59.159 (talk) 02:59, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Dear anon. This is interesting, but my talk page is not the right page to raise the issue. Try Wikipedia:WikiProject Geography, and keep in mind WP:SOFIXIT. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:51, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- RE WP:SOFIXIT - WP:IPCANNOTFIXIT-BECAUSE-MOVE-DISSALLOWED-FOR-IP. I thought you are one of the few experts in naming of administrative territorial entities in different countries. The current system across the board is "X Type" not "X type". But the nobrainer was opposed at WP:RMT with a false claim "is usually not done on WP" - it is usually done so. Only exception is India. South Ossetia-Alania is not in India. Expert opinion needed. 77.180.49.63 (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- I really don't know what you want me to do. There is already a RM at Talk:Dzau district. Are you asking me to take a look at that discussion? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:33, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- RE WP:SOFIXIT - WP:IPCANNOTFIXIT-BECAUSE-MOVE-DISSALLOWED-FOR-IP. I thought you are one of the few experts in naming of administrative territorial entities in different countries. The current system across the board is "X Type" not "X type". But the nobrainer was opposed at WP:RMT with a false claim "is usually not done on WP" - it is usually done so. Only exception is India. South Ossetia-Alania is not in India. Expert opinion needed. 77.180.49.63 (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
Polish restaurant chains
Hi Piotruś, Concerning the proposed deletion of Mr Hamburger and Berlin Döner Kebap I thought that instead of making separate articles I'll make a List of restaurant chains in Poland with short descriptions and statistics. I'll also do that for Da Grasso which I guess will also be deleted. I think that'll be a more pragmatic and centralised approach. Please don't delete the articles until Friday. I'll combine them into the article list today. Please tell me what you think. I should have done that beforehand instead of making small separate ones. I guess the Polish market for restaurants is too limited and too young to really provide notability to these arrticles I made. Apologies. I'll get back to doing History and geography articles instead. All the best. Arbustum (talk) 09:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've copied the Da Grasso, Berlin Doner Kebap and Mr Hamburger articles. I'll create a more dynamic List of restaurant chains in Poland today. If you'd like to you can delete the aforementioned articles. Apologies. Arbustum (talk) 09:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- There we go, this seems more uniform and concise: List of restaurant chains in Poland. All the best. Arbustum (talk) 12:23, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
WikiCup 2018
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DYK for Nuclear Claims Tribunal
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Move
May I ask you to look into my request for renaming media according to policy. Here's the link to my diffs in file history. The uploaded quit Wikipedia 4 years ago. Thank you, Poeticbent talk 19:50, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Doom9
Hi Piotrus, I see you poked the article Doom9 for possible deletion based on notability. This is totally fair given the cites that were there. However, I believe Doom9 is notable, just was poorly cited, and I have added a few cites to try to address the issue. I will try to add some more in the near future. Dbsseven (talk) 23:00, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
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<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub>
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Respectfully, Anomalocaris (talk) 01:59, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Anomalocaris: Tnx, done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:59, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:11, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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I deprodded AdsML because I felt that it has significant coverage from a few sources, including these:
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/news/adsml-specifications-progressing/
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On 22 November 2017, I advised you to change your signature to:
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I should have escaped the pipe character and advised you to change your signature to:
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It makes no difference when you invoke your signature with four tildes on a talk page, but it does make a difference if your signature is ever invoked in a template, because there, the native pipe character (|) will be interpreted as an argument separator of the template. So, please change your signature again. Sorry for the inconvenience. —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:48, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
It's a short article but I'd be loathe to lose it entirely due to it's significance in financial services in Australia. Could it perhaps be merged into ISO 8583 with a redirect?
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deleted article
Hi Piotrus, thanks to your action, my article regarding "Port VLAN ID" was deleted. Is there any chance to get a backup of it for my own blog? If it does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, I would like to put it on my own Blog as the search term "Port VLAN ID" gives over 87.000 search results on Google.
Did your action eliminated aggregated knowledge from the internet forever? Or is there any chance to get it from the history?
Thanks, Superwallah — Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user 04:07, December 1, 2017
- I will reply on your talk page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Computer Channel
Hi, I replaced article you PRODed with redirect to parent company. I´m sure this is non-controversial edit, but I notify you anyway. Best regards. Pavlor (talk) 09:15, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
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Eça de Queiroz
Adding the citation was easy, since it was already in the pt.wp article. Anyway, I just did it. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 15:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
I deWP:PRODed Rosati's see the talk.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:21, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Poles in the United Kingdom
Greetings, Piotrus. Would you mind looking at my additions to the article please? Apparently there are insufficient sources - I am still working on them! Best wishes,--212.126.151.98 (talk) 19:16, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello Piotrus, thank you very much for your effective response and getting the excellent Nihil novi on the case. It would be great to get the article to GA status. Re your suggestion re Log in, I have left you an email on your "post" account where much will be made clear. Many thanks again. --212.126.151.98 (talk) 14:51, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
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Wikepedia assignment, Hyunwoo Shin, 2012046537
Cloudorca92 (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Konieczny
Kwanyoung and I have been working on the Wikipedia assignment about Korean Character industry, and finally published it onto the existing articles titled "Korean animation" (English Wiki), and "대한민국의 애니메이션" (Korean Wiki). We would really appreciate your confirmation for our articles. Thank you.
Korean animation : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_animation
Sincerely, Hyunwoo Shin
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Sandboxes and educational drafts are not exempt from speedy deletion except on notability grounds, although they may be given more latitude. I've deleted several spam drafts already today.
There is no way that this article meets WP:NOTADVERTISING. There are at least 20 spam links, not counting the multiple links to the company's own pages and social media, and the interminable lists of sales points that haven't got as far as being spam linked.
Most of the text is unsourced, although that isn't a reason for speedy deletion, or sourced to the company's own sites, which didn't necessarily support the referenced text! The character list looks like a mix of copyright violation and WP:OR
Whether this student was given no advice on editing Wikipedia, was given incorrect advice, or chose to ignore any guidance, I do not know.
The student needs to
- provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. References should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
- write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic.
- Not place any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections. There should be no links to social media, nor should there be lists or spamlinks to sales sites
- Avoid copyright violations. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. Simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
If it were not a student, I would have assumed such a spammy article involved a conflict of interest, but I'm happy to accept your assurances on that. Before attempting to write an article again, the student must make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that they can find independent third party sources. They must also read Your first article.
I'm not prepared to restore the deleted text, it's far too promotional, although I might be able to copy the table into a new neutral version if that would help Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:18, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Your edit summary
[18]. This always amuses me. I am told with equal confidence that I should (a) find a different source myself; (b) remove the text with the source; (c) remove the source but leave the text and (d) leave both and tag the source as {{dubious}}. The most common view, by quite some margin, is that the text goes along with the unreliable source. If someone else wants to reinstate the text with {{cn}} they are welcome. Guy (Help!) 23:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
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...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:49, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Piotrus!!
Hi Piotrus, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,
–Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 21:40, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
DYK for Christmas gift
On 25 December 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christmas gift, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that one-quarter of respondents to a 2016 survey of Europeans said they had re-gifted their Christmas presents to someone else? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christmas gift. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Christmas gift), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Articles for Creation Reviewing
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deprods
- I didn't delete it. His book is very widely held in libraries, needs check for reviews and other sources . Possible other books also. DGG ( talk ) 20:08, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
- I think this needs a detailed search for newspapers in that period . His position in the union was effectively its chief office, and the Communist connection was usually widely reported. The Verona Transcripts is not an adequate source, not even for asserting he was a communist, but there should be others. The article on his union is awful beyond description, and seems to have been done by a succession of illiterate editors. I will either do it over or try to get someone else to do it.
- a little more dubious than the other two, but it is a famous newspaper, so at worst it would be a redirect DGG ( talk ) 22:14, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
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Requested move: Pączki → Paczki
Greetings! I have started a requested move discussion at Talk:Pączki#Requested move 2 January 2018, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks — Kpalion(talk) 16:25, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Request for help
Hello once again, Piotrus. As you've most likely noticed I rewrote the Battle of Warsaw (1705) article a few days ago (mainly because of an unstable online source, that switched between being dead and alive, and with no clear citations) and the user Gog the Mild has helped me with the copy edits of it. I want to push the article to FAC, but with this being my first time, I've been suggested to find a mentor first. I thought of you, as the creator of the article and with knowledge about the subject. Or if you don't want to, or can't find time, maybe give me some advice on the road as you're experienced here. Imonoz (talk) 01:43, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Max Fleischer, Polish American
Dear Oli,
After wading through a lot of confusing and circular references, I hope I am reaching you. While I greatly appreciated your extended clarifications on the political divisions of the regions of the present Poland, the statement that Max Fleischer was a Polish-American and was "born and raised in Poland" is inaccurate. Also citing my book, THE ART AND INVENTIONS OF MAX FLEISCHER: AMERICAN ANIMATION PIONEER as the source of this claim is false. This is obvious since the link going Page 7 clearly shows that I made the distinction of Krakow in 1883 being under the Austrian-Hungarian Empire.
Max and his family never made any ethnic connections to Poland or being "Polish." They identified themselves by nationality as being "Austrian," and ethnically as being "Jews." At least four sources confirm these details. They include Max's birth record in the Rabbinatsamt in Krakow, Immigration Registration Records, Census Records, and Max's Naturalization Papers from 1934. In each case, the country of origin was stated as "Austria." These facts are supported by the family, with particular reference to Max's grand daughter, Virginia Kneitel-Mahoney, who has Max's Naturalization Papers. These facts are also concurred by Mark Langer, formerly of Carlton University in Ottawa, Ontario Canada.
While I can appreciate the subtle differences resulting in changing political conditions and the dissolution of provinces and kingdoms of the time, my research shows that these regions were not formally incorporated as part of Poland until 1919, following World War I. By that time, Max had already begun his career in the animation field.
To say that Max was "born and raised" in Poland is also misleading in this use of the phrase. One can be born in one location and raised in another. In this case, both Max and Charles were born in Austria, but were brought to The United States, specifically, New York City at the ages of four and five respectively. As was the case with many who emigrated to the U.S. as small children during this period, their formative years were clearly spent in The United States. And their Citizenship and nationality was assumed under a condition of established residence, which was common at the time. In this respect, Max was American, having been "raised" in that culture, and mastering the English Language.
Another point about the Polish issue is that Poles had their own language and dialects as you should very well know. Max's parents originally spoke German, and quickly assimilated to American Culture and the English language. The distinction between Polish Jews and non-Polish Jews in the regions of Galicia were more a matter of social status, or class. Even though the residents were all essentially poor, there were distinctions even within this level. While it might be reasoned that the Fleischers might have distanced themselves from some lower level of this "Peasant Class," they seemed to be consistent in their honesty about who they were. For this reason, it does not seem credible that they would deny coming from a low class Polish background especially since there was no cultural connection to the Polish Culture in their history that is confirmed by the family.
Until the publishing of my book, Max's original birth name was not known. And while his parents were known as "William and Amalia (Amelia)," my research reveals the names of Aaron Wolf Fleischer and Malka Palaz. Why they changed their names is unknown. One might assume that they were escaping from something and assumed a "new identity." But there is nothing known in William's history or known character to indicate that this would have been the reason. Had he been trying to "escape" and "hide, he wouldn't have united with his brother Leon, reference in my book. So with the temptation to read some sort of drama into this situation, there simply is no evidence to support it, which brings me to another point of consideration.
You suggest that William "may have spent some time in Vienna." This is a broad generalization that is both vague as well as credible. While it is certainly possible that William may have had clients that brought him to Vienna, there has never been any acknowledgement of this coming from the stories that the family has. It is certainly possible that William may have "visited" Vienna, but to say that "he may have spent some time there" suggests that he took up residence. To date, we have no proof of this being true, and the family does not have any information to confirm this. Accordingly, there would be an interest in knowing what sources can confirm this as fact.
I might suggest that we consider tightening some of the additions about Poland especially since your addition seems a bit redundant and contradictory, especially when one of the opening sentences qualifies the time period of Krakow being then under Austria-Hungary. It might meet mutual satisfaction to add the clarification of(now Poland)to lessen any confusion here.
Very sincerely yours,
Ray PointerRayPointer (talk) 15:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Response on the Max Fleischer entry
Dear Piotrus,
I do not know how my response to "Oli" came to you since I thought I was responding to this person. Frankly the Wikipedia software is very confusing.
Thank you for your understanding.
Sincerely,
Ray Pointer — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayPointer (talk • contribs) 20:09, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
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Unintended Message to Oli via Piotrus
I'm glad that I am not the only one who finds the Wikipedia software unnecessarily difficult and confusing. That aside, "shoe-string budgets" have nothing to do with a badly designed web site. While I have issues with the Amazon software, at least it is clearer in its messaging process by comparison.
Thanks for your understanding over this confusion.
Sincerely,
Ray Pointer — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayPointer (talk • contribs) 16:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Software
There is no disagreement that the Wikipedia web site and software is too confusing and time consuming to navigate or make simple responses. One would think that with so many people with assumed understanding of how effective web sites are constructed, this would could be much better than it is. Budget has NOTHING to do with this problem. I have a web site, and I can certainly attest to operating on "shoestring budgets." Yet, I have been selling DVDs and other products of interest on my web site for 20 years. Not that I am soliciting, but I'd encourage you to visit inkwellimagesink.com and see if you find this site to be more user friendly. Wikipedia is really not user friendly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayPointer (talk • contribs) 21:11, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Re: Wiki web site/software
Hi!
Satisfying me, "the boss" is only one issue. There are MANY web site "experts", whether professional or "hobbyist" who seem quite qualified, and perhaps more qualified than whomever set up the Wiki web site and software. The fact that there are no standards and ultimate Administrator is a big problem. There is no guarantee of consistency and accuracy of Wikipedia entries if the "committee" is involved with everything. How do we know that certain committee members are qualified to be Editors? Based on some examples I've seen, some may not be. This is a prime example of the expression, "too many cooks spoil the broth."
If might be more beneficial that the committee review entries that are posted instead of imposing text that does not match the level of writing, consistency in narrative, and accurate research. This is particularly important in cases where others have added text with bad grammar, confused context, and incorrect historical timelines. And this has been the problem with some entries, with particular reference to the Max Fleischer over the past 10 years. Then by suggestion from my publisher, I re-wrote it last year, and it remained in tact until it was tampered with in October. And you have unwittingly been made privy to those issues due to a routing error of my response to the poster.
I am happy to pass these thoughts to Wikipedia provided they reach the key responsible people, not a committee. It does make one wonder what sort of organization this is, especially since they are listed as "Wiki Media" in San Francisco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayPointer (talk • contribs) 14:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Pál Hermann
Hi Piotrus.
I ask you for help because you helped me improve this wiki page considerably in the past.
Kleuske for some reason keeps insisting to move English and Dutch pages to Paul Hermann. As you say, too many cooks spoil the brothe.
My grandfather's used his birth name "Pál" for his music compositions, although he also used the westernized "Paul" when performing as a cellist. As all that is left of him today are his compositions, IMSLP and German/French/Hungarian wiki pages have accepted Pál, and I would like to undo Kleuske moving of the English and Dutch wiki pages to Paul, but she refuses (see her talk page). Also there was another composer Paul Hermann (1904-1970) active in Berlin, as is explained in all the Pál Hermann wiki pages explain. As cruel destiny will have it, this namesake of my grandfather was a Nazi composer.
The sources of the name Pál Hermann are my grandfather's birthcertificate, and the numerous manuscripts of his music compositions as made accessible through http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Hermann%2C_P%C3%A1l and also the recent scholarship in LA based Colburn School of Music in his name Pál Hermann as is the publicity cellist Clive Greensmith gives to Hermann's cello concerto.
Could you help out? Many thanks and greetings from Italy, Pvangastel. —Preceding undated comment added 09:53, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Christian-Social Union/meta/shortname
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Might be of interest to you
Talk:"Polish death camp" controversy#Vote.--APStalk 19:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018
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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 11
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Western values
Thank you for your comments on proposed article. I have now queried the deletion on wp:delete, revised the article as per comments and posted revised article on Draft:western values. Further comments would be appreciated on that talk page.Patnovak (talk) 17:29, 16 February 2018 (UTC) (Sorry, forgot to put the tildes)
Thank you for your intervention. I have made a "Submit an edit request" on the "View source page" of Western values. I have not yet submitted an Afc on the Drafts:Western value page. Patnovak (talk) 10:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Per this string of edits & edit summaries like "the biography is old and contains information that is incorrect. I did not covert to Judaism. I only embraced my Jewish Roots. Also, the biography does not have current information. I have included this.", it definetely seems like the subject of the article himself edited it, contributing to the problem with length. R9tgokunks ✡ 11:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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