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Joining the January 2012 MtC drive

Well, welcome, but I saw that you forgot to add yourself to the logs subpage. The reviewers won't review what's not there. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 11:54, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, added self. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Images and Media/Commons/Drives/Jan 2012. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Iowa_Senate#Current_composition

Please update the table, Mathis was sworn in [1][2]. I tried, but I screwed it up, I'm very anti-table, thanks, CTJF83 16:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

  Done. Thanks for pointing it out. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 18:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 November 2011

Feedback Dashboard upgrade

Hi Philosopher,

Thanks for signing up for the Feedback Dashboard response team! I wanted to let you know that the tool just got an important update (see here for details). I also wanted to invite you to the IRC office hours session that Steven and I are going to hold this Sunday, December 4. Hope you can make it and share your experience/questions with us! Thanks again, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite. I don't use IRC currently, so I won't be able to join you. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 00:07, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Kennedy Middle School (Cupertino, California)

I have asked for a deletion review of Kennedy Middle School (Cupertino, California). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Blue Ribbon evidence has been found which may force reexamination. Raymie (tc) 01:58, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I've commented there! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 04:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
I have opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (organizations and companies)#US elementary schools: Inherent notability: for "Blue Ribbon Schools" as to whether the 5200 schools which have been found awarded the "Blue Ribbon" seal of approval get inherent notability, or if they each have to satisfy WP:ORG via significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources.I'm not sure if I'm supposed to notify those who commented at the AFD or the Deletion Review. I received no notification of the Deletion Review, and I was the one who initiated the AFD. I would have certainly had something to say at the Deletion Review, which was closed after 2 days. Edison (talk) 19:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Should the discussion I opened be made an "RFC?" I don't believe I've ever opened one and am not sure of the process. I'd like to see a wide input on this notability issue rather than just starting another AFD. Edison (talk) 19:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
The RfC tag seems to be used fairly often these days, so I think you could open it as an RfC - I don't think I've ever opened an RFC either, though I've helped close at least one. Thanks for notifying me about the discussion, btw, but I think I'm going to sit this one out - I support the idea of inherent notability for some subjects, but have no idea whether this subject is appropriate for inherent notability or not. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
As far as notification, Raymie should have notified you of the DR - and I should have noticed that that hadn't happened and notified you myself, sorry. Then again, I would have just undone the redirection on my own w/o a DR if I'd been asked, so... --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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Law Practice Optimizers?

 
Here's some beer for you!

Hey Philosopher, I hope you're having a great day. As you are familiar with legal matters (according to your user page and my prior interactions with you, anyway), would you mind taking a quick look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Law practice optimization to see if there is any encyclopedic potential with this article? Asking because I've never heard of "Law Practice Optimizers" before and it sounds like one of hundreds of non-notable consultancy "fields". This is in reference to User talk:CharlieEchoTango#Finding Citations; if you have any comments, and suggestions, I'd like to hear them. Best regards, CharlieEchoTango (contact) 17:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I normally reply here, but since there's already a discussion there, I've replied at your talk. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:21, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Very nice of you, much appreciated. :-) CharlieEchoTango (contact) 02:45, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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In Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 81#Proposal for a new free image category, you said you were going to consider the idea and propose some changes at Commons. Are you still interested in doing that? Anomie 18:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for reminding me. I'm a little busy in RL at the moment, so it may be a few days. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
That's fine, I'll be patient. Anomie 23:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Proposed at commons:Commons:Village pump/Proposals#Keeping track of Attribution requirements. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 23:26, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! One criticism though: I don't think that modifying {{Information}} would be the best way to do it on Commons; it should probably be done in the licensing templates instead. While you could do it in {{Information}}, that would require editing every image page on Commons to add the parameter and would require everyone to correctly specify the value of the parameter corresponding to the licensing tags.
I see my reference to {{Free media}} is confusing. Here on enwiki, every free license template contains {{Free media}}, which handles adding of Category:All free media. So the obvious thing to do here is modify that template to take a parameter and modify all the calls to it in the various licensing templates to pass that parameter. Of course, everything on Commons is supposed to be free media, so you probably don't have the equivalent in your licensing templates. You could create a helper template (along the lines of our {{Free media}}) to apply this category, or you could just have the appropriate licensing tags apply the category directly if that's how Commons likes to do things.
Most templates will be unambiguous, but some like commons:Template:Copyrighted free use provided that would need an extra parameter that the user needs to specify to indicate whether the "provided that" requires a link or not. Anomie 17:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks For Introducing Me to wikipedia. Willdude 132 (talk) 09:57, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
A belated thank you! --Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:50, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Lmatt AWB vandalism

I see that you gave Lmatt AWB access. Please take it away. His excessive vandalism is highly disruptive.

  • He changed the template Earthsatmosphere to Earth's atmosphere and then modified pages under a 1RR restriction. This is a simply a highly disruptive nonsense change. So far, he has only modified a few pages with this, but there are about 20 that might be affected.
  • He changed the cite templates on those same pages so they they no longer match the templates, similar to the following.
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His editing is highly disruptive. Q Science (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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WikiProject Maps - File class articles

Hello Philosopher,

I'm stuck, I've manually created this category Category:File-Class_Maps_articles which successfully appears here Category:File-Class_articles&from=M

the reason I created the category is that the majority of items in Category:NA-Class_Maps_articles appear to be files - and all of those articles for example File_talk:1490_map.jpg&action=edit got tagged by the Bot as class=File, importance=NA which seems great.

However I had not already created the Category:File-Class_Maps_articles, so they all appear to show up as Category:NA-Class_Maps_articles which you'll see if you look at File_talk:1490_map.jpg

I've tried purging various pages, I've tried updating the documentation on the template, i've tried running the webform assessment update bot - and it's also run on it's own a few times (i think - or at least it's been a couple of weeks) and I've finally got to the point where I don't know which bit I didn't do in order to get that to work.

my last option (that I've not attempted out of fear of messing it up) might be to directly edit this page User:WP_1.0_bot/Tables/Project/Maps but that still doesn't explain to me why the File class articles end up in the NA class articles category.

I'm a bit confused to be fair - it all seems like it ought to work ok - but perhaps I 've missed something obvious and so I thought I'd ask you as you clearly know a fair bit about this sort of stuff. Sorry to be a burden. EdwardLane (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

My fault - I used the default categorization, not the extended version in the project template - meaning that it didn't know what to do with "File" and threw it in with everything else it didn't know what to do with in NA. I've expanded the template - it may take a bit for the database to update, but the articles should be in the right categories now. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 02:53, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks and it may have been my fault - as I probably didn't mention the extended categories when we started the thing up - but that was in ignorance of what files actually ought to be part of wp maps so no one at fault :) I just 'purged' a file and it appeared in the category correctly so it looks like it will get sorted over time now. Thanks very much. EdwardLane (talk) 11:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Just to let you know it's all now working fine - thanks EdwardLane (talk) 08:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
That's good to know.   --Philosopher Let us reason together. 08:22, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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My Request For Rollback Permission

Hello Philosopher, I was just letting you know that I would like to request rollback permission. I would mainly want to use it for reverting things that are vandalism. I have done this in the past with Twinkle, but I have heard that this interface is much better. See my history for details. Thanks!
--RubinkumarTalk 22:53, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Replied at your talk. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:22, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Just so you know, if you look my contributions, and switch to the 500 edits per page view, you can see that I have nominated around 30 pages for CSD, as I have warned vandals about 25 times making the total amount around 55. --RubinkumarTalk 15:04, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Replied at your talk. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 04:01, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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