Pachu Kannan

Welcome!

Hello, Pachu Kannan. Welcome to Wikipedia!

I'm Suneye1, one of the other editors here, and I hope you decide to stay and help contribute to this amazing repository of knowledge.

Some pages of helpful information:   Introduction to Wikipedia   The five pillars of Wikipedia   Editing tutorial   How to edit a page   Simplified Manual of Style

The basics of Wikicode   How to develop an article   How to create an article   Help pages   What Wikipedia is not

Some common sense Dos and Don'ts:   Do be bold   Do assume good faith   Do be civil   Do cite reliable sources   Do maintain a neutral point of view

Don't spam   Don't infringe copyright   Don't add original research   Don't commit vandalism   Don't get blocked

If you need further help, you can:   Ask a question

or you can:   Get help at the Teahouse

or even:   Ask an experienced editor to "adopt" you

Remember to always sign your posts on talk pages. You can do this either by clicking on the button on the edit toolbar or by typing four tildes ~~~~ at the end of your post. This will automatically insert your signature, a link to this (your talk) page, and a timestamp.

Sincerely, SUN EYE 1 15:55, 22 February 2021 (UTC)  

ITN recognition for S. Ramesan Nair

On 25 June 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article S. Ramesan Nair, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 20:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Virbhadra Singh

On 10 July 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Virbhadra Singh, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 10:56, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Keshav Dutt

On 11 July 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Keshav Dutt, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 11:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho

On 25 July 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 13:05, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Lester Bird

On 10 August 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lester Bird, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 23:04, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mangala Samaraweera

On 24 August 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mangala Samaraweera, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 13:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for William J. Boarman

On 30 August 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article William J. Boarman, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for B. V. Nimbkar

On 1 September 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article B. V. Nimbkar, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 22:04, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Thanu Padmanabhan

On 21 September 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Thanu Padmanabhan, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 00:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Helmut Oberlander

On 27 September 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Helmut Oberlander, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 22:56, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You are doing a great job  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  07:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Pachu Kannan. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when using rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Widr (talk) 11:28, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for doing your part to revert vandalism. RteeeeKed (talk) 18:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Bernard Haitink

On 23 October 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Bernard Haitink, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 13:29, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Aaron T. Beck

On 2 November 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Aaron T. Beck, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 09:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Tarak Sinha

On 7 November 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Tarak Sinha, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 19:29, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Lee Ying-yuan

On 14 November 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lee Ying-yuan, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Michael R. Clifford

On 4 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Michael R. Clifford, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 22:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Pupetta Maresca

On 5 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Pupetta Maresca, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 00:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gary Burgess

On 8 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gary Burgess, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 14:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gerson da Cunha

On 9 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gerson da Cunha, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Viktor Saneyev

On 9 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Viktor Saneyev, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 22:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Sonya Biddle

On 26 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Sonya Biddle, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 20:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for R. Nagaswamy

On 29 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article R. Nagaswamy, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 15:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Charanjit Singh

On 31 January 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Charanjit Singh, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 06:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Rashid Byramji

On 3 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Rashid Byramji, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 01:13, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Ibrahim Sutar

On 9 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ibrahim Sutar, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 09:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Rahul Bajaj

On 13 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Rahul Bajaj, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 11:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Chennaveera Kanavi

On 20 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Chennaveera Kanavi, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 05:12, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for David Boggs

On 2 March 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article David Boggs, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for finding and reporting that long-term ref-spammer EvergreenFir (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mary Coombs

On 14 March 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mary Coombs, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thanks for keeping an eye on Saline Valley salt tram. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 19:33, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Rima Melati

On 26 June 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Rima Melati, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 05:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Vladimir Zelenko

On 4 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Vladimir Zelenko, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Patrick Watson (producer)

On 9 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Patrick Watson (producer), which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Flibirigit (talk) 19:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for P. Gopinathan Nair

On 13 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article P. Gopinathan Nair, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 11:31, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Barry Sinclair

On 15 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Barry Sinclair, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 04:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Diana Lebacs

On 15 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Diana Lebacs, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 04:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Lily Safra

On 16 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lily Safra, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:18, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gerald Shargel

On 23 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gerald Shargel, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 03:00, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Christopher Meyer

On 3 August 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Christopher Meyer, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Mary Roy

On 4 September 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Mary Roy, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Shaw and Crompton

I have nominated Shaw and Crompton for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm _Talk 18:22, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 12 December 2022. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Philip Pearlstein

On 23 December 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Philip Pearlstein, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Anarchyte (talk) 12:31, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Sengol

I have read the Wire article and saw the photo you refer to. However India today article also includes a photo of the sengol with the walking stick description. So I am not sure why the Wire article should be assumed correct and the India article incorrect. Jagmanst (talk) 02:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Sengol in Malayalam?

@Pachu Kannan your user profile indicates you may be knowing Malayalam language. Recently I have been working on User:Bookku/Indian sceptre. I am looking for some information help regarding Malayalam sources.

1) How do you write word Sengol in Malayalam script ?

2) Is there any separate word for Sengol or sceptre in Malayalam language ? or word Sengol or some other Sanskrit word is used in Malayalam?

3) If Malayalam language uses separate word then how that would be written in English / Roman script

4) Are there any pre-2023 (before ongoing controversy began) reliable sources in Malayalam language in google scholar or google books ? If available I would request your assistance in expanding my user-space draft User:Bookku/Indian sceptre.

Thanks Bookku (talk) 09:07, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

1) ചെങ്കോൽ

3) Chenkol Pachu Kannan (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 11 December 2023. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2023 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:01, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Kumar Shahani

On 3 March 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Kumar Shahani, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 05:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for May 17

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Vineet Nayyar, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Economic Times and Business Today.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 17:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for June 11

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Shivraj Singh Chouhan, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Ministry of Rural Development.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 18:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

July 2024

Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. To help yourself remember, you may wish to check the "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" box in your preferences. Thanks! Ekdalian (talk) 18:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Kerala Newsletter: July 2024

WikiProject Kerala Newsletter JULY 2024

Newly Nominated content

• Western Ghats

Open tasks

You can add your suggestions for open tasks here

Articles to be improved

• Malabar River Festival
• Edamalayar
• Edayattoor
• Erattayar
• Ezhuvathiruthy
• Gayathripuzha River
• High Range, Kerala
• Holy Land Chalakudy
• Irumbuzhi

Miscellaneous

• We need more contributors for the newsletter. Feel free to add your ideas here
• We want to give the newsletter a unique name. Please add your suggestions here.

Events

These are some of the events in Kerala in the month of July

• Malabar River Festival, 25-28 July, 2024
• Muharram, 16 or 17 July, 2024

---

• Discuss this newsletter
• Contribute
• Subscribe/Unsubscribe
• Archive

---

Sent by Path slopu on behalf of WikiProject Kerala. © Copyleft 2024.
Go here to unsubscribe if you wish to opt-out of future mailings.

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for M. S. Valiathan

On 20 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article M. S. Valiathan, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Israeli civilian fatalities

Since you are invested tracking and updating the casualties from the Israel-Gaza conflict, your input on this discussion here [1] would be appreciated. The issue of the IDF reservist, who is counted as a military fatality by Israel, has been resolved. The issue remains in regards to AFP's toll of civilian victims of October 7th. AFP has previously said their reporting of the toll of October 7th includes civilian hostages who were taken to Gaza, but since confirmed dead. Since we had already included in the infobox hostage deaths separately, I downsized the AFP toll to remove hostages whose bodies were subsequently recovered from Gaza, so there won't be doublecounting. An editor has objected to this, requesting we list in the infobox the full civilian toll reported by AFP (which includes hostage deaths). I have stated that I have no objection to this, but that then we would need to remove the separately listed civilian hostage figure because it would be doublecounting since they are included in the AFP toll as well. We can add in brackets beside the death toll of October 7th how many of those were hostages. But doublecounting should be avoided. Like I said, your input would be appreciated. EkoGraf (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for inviting me to that discussion and your outstanding contributions for more than 14 years. But I think my opinion is not necessary. Pachu Kannan (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Wayanad landslides

On 31 July 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2024 Wayanad landslides, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 12:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Help

Hello in the article,Nirmala College, Muvattupuzha, in the controversy section ,there appears to be an edit war with the user അദ്വൈതൻ. The said user seems to present the article targetting the Muslim community in a bad light.So I had changed the tone without changing the meaning to present it in a more neutral point of view.Also he is not allowing me to complete the story.After the incident have happened,the Muslim community have apologized for the incident.Also State SFI president have clarified they are not involved in the protests.He is not allowing me to put both these sentences in the article.They are credible sources that I have added for the both these sources.The said used അദ്വൈതൻ have repeatedly warned of edit wars in the past and have been blocked.Could you please see the section yourself? If I am at fault you can correct me.I am still new to this and I totally understand it I can make mistakes.Tmanthara (talk) Tmanthara (talk) 19:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I reported it to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection today morning. Pachu Kannan (talk) 13:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

But it’s protected with his edit on it.And he haven’t replied on talk page so that editors can reach a consensus. Tmanthara (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Then please discuss it to protecting administrator Isabelle Belato or any other administrators. Pachu Kannan (talk) 14:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:WRONG wrt current protected revision. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 14:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for suggesting that essay to me. Pachu Kannan (talk) 14:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

I think that you should reach consensus with അദ്വൈതൻ in this one week time and then make a edit request to administrators. I pinged that user in this reply. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Other option is editing after one week. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Consecutive refs

Hello! I appreciate your contributions to Israel-Hamas War and Israel-Hezbollah conflict so I'd like to give you a tip to avoid future problems in editing. One is that there is no need to put the same ref consecutively at the end of every sentence within a paragraph unless it is bundled with another ref. The second is that some of your edits were flagged for WP:RECENTISM. Some editors may have explained to you that this is because the articles are not day-to-day reportage of the war. But you may find these edits useful in the timeline articles on these conflicts. Borgenland (talk) 13:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your useful tips. I myself removed at least some of the content added by me per WP:RECENTISM from Israel-Hamas War that I think violate this policy. Pachu Kannan (talk) 13:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Israeli civilian deaths

I have found a source, a regularly updated OCHA chart, of both Israeli and Palestinian casualties, including civilians specifically. It is currently updated to July 8th. I have researched their chart and found that it includes all of the Palestinian-related Israeli deaths (11 to be specific) in the West Bank and Israel during the conflict, except three - the 1 civilian mistakenly killed by Israeli forces (chart says it includes only fatalities caused by Palestinian militants) and 2 civilians shot and killed by Palestinians in January near Ofra (don't know why they are not included). I have added the chart as a source for the 11 (noting in the reference the filter that needs to be applied in the chart) and also noted that the three civilians are not included in the chart, bringing the total to 14 killed for the period. Periodically we should look up the chart if its been updated, and update the figure, so the list note doesn't get too unnecessarily big again. I also wanted to thank you for all your hard work on updating all of the figures in the infobox! :) Happy edditing! EkoGraf (talk) 17:00, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe there should be a "West Bank" section on the Israeli side of the casualties in the {{Israel–Hamas war infobox}}, to mirror the regional breakdown for Palestinian casualties? (tag me if you reply, please) FourPi (talk) 07:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

FourPi Most of the international community consider the territory part of Palestine occupied by Israel, though this is disputed by Israel. So I think that it is better to include it on the Palestinian side of casualties. Pachu Kannan (talk) 08:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

2024 Wayanad Landslides

Posting here since any talk page discussions on the article are closed immediately and it's not exactly conducive to a rational and thoughtful discussion across multiple users. Hoping you can help me understand as you did previously. The current death count of 442 feels like WP:SYNTH to me. I reviewed the central govt report that you and another user discussed, and it says 231 dead bodies and 211 body parts. We are arriving at our own conclusions by adding the two together to arrive at a death count. This is definitely WP:SYNTH to me, but maybe you can explain the rationale. Again posting here as a genuine question because any activity on the article itself is nearly impossible without being completely shut down/reverted/discussion closed Schwinnspeed (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Many reliable sources also mentioned that over 400 people died using the same rationale. For example, please read https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/wayanad-landslides-death-toll-crosses-400-mark-over-150-still-missing-124080700592_1.html. You can find other sources using a simple Google Search. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

We should wait at least until all DNA test results come out for exact death toll. Pachu Kannan (talk) 15:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

It was also the same rationale used by Health Minister of Kerala Veena George. Please read https://thewire.in/environment/nightmare-in-wayanad-torrential-rains-triggered-landslides-but-climate-change-may-not-be-the-sole-culprit. But still it may be an original research as exact death toll mentioned in that article is not explicitly mentioned in the reliable sources. Pachu Kannan (talk) 16:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree multiple sources say over 400 people have died. but the sources themselves keep it general and don't state a specific number like 442. And they don't reference the calculation. Whereas the WP article specifically says 442, and then there is a note on the bottom that shows the calculation. I'm agreeing with your point around the DNA test results - my concern is we are stating very specific numbers that is an inference and considered WP:SYNTH. Wouldn't it be better to just say 'over 400' and link the references above? Schwinnspeed (talk) 17:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I think that this problem is now solved. Pachu Kannan (talk) 03:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	You deserve it . Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Pachu Kannan (talk) 11:22, 18 August 2024 (UTC)