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Wikidata weekly summary #581

Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: Vargenau (RfP scheduled to end after 25 June 2023 07:51 UTC)
    • Closed request for adminship: Infrastruktur (closed on May 12th without prior mention)
    • Closed request for permissions/Bot:
  • Tool of the week
    • Mapping Diversity is a platform that utilizes Wikidata to discover key facts about diversity and representation in street names across Europe. E.g. 59% of the streets and squares in Paris are named after people. Of those, 8.9% are named after women.
  • Development
    • REST API:
      • We finished the endpoint for getting data from Properties and it is now available on Wikidata.
      • We started expanding that endpoint with filter options and conditional http headers.
    • EntitySchemas: The new datatype is now available for testing and feedback.
    • mul language code: We've continued working on making the mobile termbox (labels, descriptions, aliases) ready for the new language code. (phab:T329644, phab:T338302, phab:T329655, phab:T316767)
    • Vector 2022 skin: We are fixing an issue with the bolding of results in the main search suggester. (phab:T327510)


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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 17:24, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #582

Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: Wolverène (RfP scheduled to end after 2 July 2023 18:46 UTC)
    • Closed request for adminship: Vargenau (successful) Welcome onboard \o/
    • New requests for permissions/Bot: RomesfulImporterBot (Task: Creating and updating Russian Lexemes by transferring information from the Russian Wiktionary)
  • Tool of the week
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • TU Berlin research group "The Restitution of Knowledge" are exploring the use of Wikidata to build a Linked Open Data (LOD) project that maps German colonial military expeditions into Africa. Interested in getting involved or learning more about their project? Reach out on the project's talk page: Wikidata:WikiProject TheRoK/Data Models.
  • Development
    • Wikibase REST API: We are working on making it possible to get statements from a Property. (phab:T338383)
    • EntitySchema: We're looking into the feedback we received from the testing of the new datatype.
    • Ontology issues: We have released the survey results. The next step is looking into solutions.
    • mul language code: We are continuing to adapt the desktop UI to make it ready for the new special language code. (phab:T329644, phab:T338302, phab:T339103, phab:T329655, phab:T329655)
    • Vector 2022: We are changing the style for search suggestions as the default of the skin isn't working well for Wikidata. (phab:T327510)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 18:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Top Bar Follow up

Latest comment: 10 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi Nthep, you had helped me add my contributions and wathlist to the topbar and sticky header and was wondering if you could help me with something similar. What would be the code to add my sandbox and to-do list page (User:Aza24/To do list) there as well? Best – Aza24 (talk) 06:53, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

responded at own talk page. Nthep (talk) 21:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - July 2023

 

The WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter
Issue 183 – July 2023

The July 2023 issue of the Project Newsletter is now available.
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

 

  Administrator changes

  Novem Linguae
 

  Bureaucrat changes

  MBisanz

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #583

Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Open request for adminship: koavf 3 (RfP scheduled to end after 8 July 2023 13:16 UTC)
    • Closed request for adminship: Wolverène Welcome onboard \o/
    • New requests for permissions/Bot: UrbanBot (Task: UrbanBot's task is to mass-add English descriptions to items that don't have one)
    • Closed request for permissions/Bot: RomesfulImporterBot (Task: Creating and updating Russian Lexemes by transferring information from the Russian Wiktionary)
  • Tool of the week
    • m:User:Base/Scripts/HaveWikibaseLabelLowercased.js - is a Userscript that adds an arrow next to the main label (page title) which upon double click (a tap and a confirmation on touch devices) automatically makes the label's first letter lowercase for the current interface language. If there was already a matching alias it gets removed.
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • The WikidataCon 2023 call for proposals is running until July 31st. If you have questions or need advice before sending a program proposal, join the program team during one of the office hour sessions (online or in Taiwan, in Chinese or in English). More information
    • Scholia has a new aspect dedicated to profiling WikiProjects, e.g. toolforge:scholia/wikiproject/Q56241615 for WikiProject Invasion biology. Using it revealed inconsistencies across WikiProjects in terms of which properties they use (and how) to associate a page with a WikiProject, as discussed here.
    • Introducing Wikibase World. The Wikibase registry has moved. Add an entry for your Wikibase if it's accessible over the open internet.
  • Development
    • Wikibase REST API:
      • We finished the GetProperty endpoint with fields filter and Conditional headers (phab:T338141, phab:T338138)
      • We started working on the endpoints for reading statement data of Properties (both a single statement, and a list of all of a Property’s statement) (phab:T339356), phab:T338383)
    • Ontology issue survey: We put together an overview of solutions for the various types of issues and will share them this week.
    • mul language code: We are continuing to work through the language fallback issues that were uncovered.


You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


Foul (basketball)

Latest comment: 10 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion

"Harry rerok" is back editing here. Same Edit Summary as an edit you reverted and expunged; can't tell whether the edit itself is the same. Spike-from-NH (talk) 20:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Spike-from-NH no apparent copyvio. No comment on the suitability of the content changes as basketball is not a sport that interests me. Nthep (talk) 20:23, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #584

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
    • Closed request for adminship: koavf 3 Welcome onboard \o/
    • New requests for permissions/Bot: FromCrossrefBot 1: Publication dates (Task/s: Using information from Crossref: 1 - Add publication date to items where they are not present in Wikidata 2 - Fix publication dates where they are erroneous)
  • Tool of the week
    • Duplicity is a tool on Toolforge that helps find articles on Wikipedia that do not have a Wikidata Item, and match them to an existing Item, or create a new one. (example for English Wikipedia)
    • HasProperty.js displays presence/absence of specific properties (configurable) after the Statements heading. Clicking a property name will jump to that properties section. For absent property, clicking property name will jump to the end of the page.
  • Development
    • Ontology issues: We published the overview of solutions and are looking for input on them now.
    • mul language code: We continued work on it focusing on showing it in the right place in the desktop termbox (phab:T316767)
    • Wikibase REST API: We continued working on the endpoints for reading statement data of Properties (both a single statement, and a list of all of a Property’s statement) (phab:T339356, phab:T338383)
    • Vector 2022 skin: We continued work on improving the search display (phab:T327510)
    • WMF Governance wiki is now connected to Wikidata so can be linked to in the sitelink section under multilingual sites (phab:T321967)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 13:06, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Big Jim McLain page hubbub

Latest comment: 9 months ago7 comments4 people in discussion

Greetings User Nthep. As you are an administrator, and the one who took the most recent action at the above page, can you please help me understand what's going on there. I have no idea what a "cd-revdel" is (and never heard of the thing, but for the lecture handed out by User Mako). All I know is that no version of the page's history is "active" beyond the first four or five entries. The rest all have lines through their dates and such, and cannot be accessed, even to view what changes the edits had made.

Can you please shed some light on what has happened, and when the page will return to normal and be editable again? Thank you. ~

(Sorry, can't sign this post. Some new feature crept up on my computer today determined to volunteer how to end any word I begin to type, which I can most certainly live without, and which is preventing me from typing four tildes in a row; instead, it volunteers them in groups of like 20. No thanks.) 2601:196:180:DC0:DE0:B9E6:6D56:9050 (talk) 19:09, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Back in 2013 someone added a whole load of copyrighted text. Wikipedia policy on flagrant copyright violations is that as well as the offending text being removed, all the revisions that contained the text (i.e. all those between it being added and removed) need to be hidden from public view - that's revdel, short for WP:Revision deletion. The article can be edited normally except you can't see what specific changes were made by each of the hidden edits. That's an unwanted but unavoidable side effect of a copyright violation not being noticed for 10 years. Nthep (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Why that is completely insane. And exponential overkill. In fact, everything User Mako did (and requested) was, including starting out with an offensive mass revert (rather than identifying any specific issues he had and dealing with them individually). He correctly identified the Production section as a defacto trivia section. Fine, delete anything unwarranted, and the obvious direct cribs from IMDb (which is what I did, flag the cribs). Everything that happened after that is a nightmare.
The best thing you can do as an administrator is restore this page prior to Mako's edits, then delete the obvious/identifed IMDb cribs. If Mako then has anything he'd like to address, he can - individually, not with any repeat mass revert. Let's see if we can't get this page back on track. Thank you. ~ (Same problem, seemingly the browser - Edge - won't let me insert four consecutive tildes. Just one, or blocks of 20.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:180:DC0:B832:7834:9DFB:2E13 (talk) 10:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
The copyright issues have been dealt with per policy. If you and Mako have a content dispute over various sections, the start a discussion at the article talk page, Talk:Big Jim McLain. If needs be put your entire proposed content there -as long as it doesn't contain verbatim copy from IMDB - and then have the discussion. Nthep (talk) 11:48, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Jeepers creepers, this just keeps getting more Orwellian. I'm the one who flagged the problem content, not generated it. This whole thing has completely spun out of control since. This is all wild overkill, from mass reverts to putting an entire page and wonking chunk of its history in permanent quarantine. Can't you see that? "Policies". You need to be able to see the bigger picture - you're an administrator. Neutron-bombing the thing should be a last resort, not first, requested by some over-avid WP user or not. ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:180:DC0:B832:7834:9DFB:2E13 (talk) 15:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
I'm the one who flagged the problem content, not generated it. I apologise for suggesting you introduced any copyvio. Just re-edit the article. This is the text of the amendments you made to the plot
as per the revision of 12:55 on 8 July 2023.
Re-insert this into the text, if you wish, then anything that happens subsequently to that is a content dispute between you and whoever and there is no complication due to copyvios being dealt with at the same time. Nthep (talk) 16:05, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for offering at least a partial common sense solution to sorting out the impacted page. Obviously, I had no reason to make any copy of the edits I'd made to the plot section, and am grateful for the chance to restore them intact (less some small modifications I noticed).

As for the still neutron-bombed former Production section, I'd already done a quite diligent cull of what was and was not lifted (more or less verbatim) from IMDb. That's why I used the multiple citation needed spans to identify it (and, ideally, at least gain independent citation of the flagged content, as, honestly, there is no way of knowing which came first - the WP item or that at IMDb (which offers no means of identifying or tracking edits by date and editor); obviously the onus is on it migrating this direction (a copyright violation, it appears) rather than the other (by license not)).

In theory - and I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here - some "baby" went out with the bathwater in the blanket cd:revdel, as there were entries at WP that were not at IMDb. Which is one additional reason I objected to it (and its "overkill", seeming to use a cannon to kill a mouse. On the other hand, every page with a flytrap "trivia" section (or defacto one masquerading as "In popular culture", or "Famous people (associated with a place by getting a haircut there)") could use a good neutron bombing (or its equivalent), but don't get them.)

In fact, I have come to spend more time at IMDb seeking to clean up its trivia (and other glop there regarded as goofs, plot holes, continuity breaks, and whathaveyou), in some ways an even greater labor of Sisyphus than trying to do the same here), certainly more relatively, as there is no mechanism whatsoever there for verification, just some invisible behind-the-scenes "Oz" who either accepts an item (or edit to it) or not. (Quite a game of blind man's poker.)

Thank you for being receptive to my concerns, and offering a partial solution which is about as Solomonic as it's going to get at this point. I appreciate your amicable and professional manner througout. 2601:196:180:DC0:213B:FD85:694A:C56E (talk) 10:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Under the Volcano (1984 film)

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello Nthep, Thank you very much for the action taken on the page. Yours, -MY, OH MY! (mushy yank) 21:39, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Revdel at Large Indian civet

Latest comment: 9 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion

You removed the revdel template from Large Indian civet with the edit summary Copyvio revdel completed, but the page's deletion log is empty and the revisions are still visible in the page history. Was this intentional? If so I'd be curious what your rationale is for not revdeleting since I'm new to copyright cleanup and I appreciate any feedback I can get. — SamX [talk · contribs] 23:09, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

@SamX nothing wrong with your edits and tagging. For some reason, perhaps the number of revisions, they didn't delete when I hit the delete button. I've gone back and made sure they've gone this time. Nthep (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! — SamX [talk · contribs] 12:27, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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