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ken griffey jr.

hey man, not trying to vandalize anything, i just think that alot of what is considered is public knowledge in this day and age about one of the most celebrated baseball players of the 1990-2000s. He is also known to be a CF, RF, DH, occasional LF and 1B. I understand the want to verify and make this page as completely encyclopedic as possible; however, again, a lot of this IS public knowledge and thusly needs no citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.55.75.135 (talk) June 16, 2011, 19:47 (UTC)

Re: Minor league category

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DYK nomination of Three Sisters (musical)

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Where can we duke this out?

You are wrong. Who can moderate this discussion? I have tons of proof and would like for someone else to rule instead of you constantly reverting my edits and thinking you own the place. --FourteenClowns (talk) 17:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Go to WT:BASEBALL. This has been discussed ad naseum. For all we know, he failed his physical, and ESPN is wrong. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

If ESPN changes their profile page that should be enough with all the articles. They are the Worldwide leader and you think they would know more than us chumps if it was official or not. They'd have more egg on their face if it wasn't and they update their page than us. We know more people are looking there than here about Pujols. --FourteenClowns (talk) 17:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

It's the mlb.com profile page that matters, not the espn one. Spanneraol (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Why would ESPN and those other sites change it if it were going to fall through? They'd look like fools. It's done. Stop being angry, controlling trolls who think they own this site. What made it yours? It belongs to EVERYONE and most people want it changed but you censor and block those people. It's not right. --FourteenClowns (talk) 18:10, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, your incivility is not right. I can't discuss any content issues with someone who is being uncivil. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:28, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Frenchy Bordagaray

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DYK for Jack Chesbro

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DYK for Yad Sarah

Hi, thanks for the review. Please see my new note on the nomination page. Yoninah (talk) 17:28, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Posting system

Why are you insistent on leaving out relevant information simply because it doesn't neatly fit into the article? It is important information. I am adding it again. Before you take out the relevant information, feel free to bring it up with the Baseball project. You are giving no valid reason to take it out. Thanks. --Torsodog^Talk 00:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I've given the reason. You're putting information on a posting that is still pending in inappropriate sections. Maybe we should have a section specifically for "pending" postings, but neither of those tables as they stand are appropriate for Nakajima, Darvish, or any other Japanese players in the process of being posted. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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Object Permanence GA Status?

Hello Muboshgu, I have noticed that there has been a lot of recent changes on the review process about the page Object Permanence. I am in a college class that is associated with this page through the aps Wikipedia Initiative. If you could review the page within the week, because our class finishes on the December 16th, that would be really appreciated because my professor wants our page to be as well done as possible and I feel that you will give us some very useful ideas. Thank you for your consideration, (Fredodin (talk) 19:30, 7 December 2011 (UTC))

It is my intention to have it reviewed by Friday at the latest. I should have noted it in the review page already. I'll note it now. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the very prompt response. (Fredodin (talk) 03:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC))

Hello again, sorry to bother you but my professor just sent out an email saying that she needs our final article by Wednesday, December 14th. If you could have our review completed by then I would be very thankful. Thank you again for your help, Fredodin (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for all of your advice and help through this process! My group and I are very thankful. Fredodin (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

interview about baseball editing on WP

I'm a researcher at MIT studying the impact of Google Books digitization of the Baseball Digest on Wikipedia baseball editing. I would like to briefly interview you on the phone to ask you a few questions about how baseball editing is organized on Wikipedia, about prominent bots and your personal experiences with the digital copies of the Baseball Digest.

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discussion

Can you attempt to discuss rather than simply drive by reverting in the middle of a dispute, thanks - Youreallycan (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, per WP:BRD, you're the one who should be attempting to discuss rather than edit warring. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

FYI the page has been part of a discussion at BLPN.. It had seemed to be settled till Youreallycan started rewriting the section. Spanneraol (talk) 21:35, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I hadn't seen that. A link to that discussion should really be posted at Talk:Luke Scott. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:44, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

• - while I don't support the whole story - I will thank you for withdrawing your report at the 3rrnb - I only just noticed it. Youreallycan (talk) 22:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Three Sisters (musical)

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David Pearce

Thanks for your comments on how to improve the David Pearce article! Did you just decide to review it or did someone request it?--Gloriamarie (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I looked through the list of outstanding nominations and chose it at random. I'd never heard of him before. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Muboshbu, thanks very much for the thorough and insightful GA review of Netball! -Pete (talk) 20:24, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Seconded. Keep up the good work. AIRcorn (talk) 21:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. You both did a good job responding to my comments. Be sure to pay it forward by reviewing articles. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Mitch Henderson/GA1

I have addressed your concerns at Talk:Mitch Henderson/GA1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:20, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Great. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:51, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Koji Mitsui

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GAN Jack Chesbro

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I have review your GAN at Talk:Jack Chesbro/GA1 where there is a list of recommended changes. I enjoyed reading it very much.

Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 17:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! I've been changing the name for consistency and wasn't aware you were changing it back. Whatever you think is best! I'm getting ready to pass the article for GA. Its an impressive article. MathewTownsend (talk) 20:08, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't let me stop you, then. The name consistency is fine with me. Thanks for the review! – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Frenchy Bordagaray

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GAN review of George Kelly (baseball)

Hi,

Sorry to bother you again with another review! This one is nothing like the other. I only have a couple of questions noted at Talk:George Kelly (baseball)/GA1. It is a very well done article, beautifully formatted.

MathewTownsend (talk) 23:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

All done. Congratulations! Best, MathewTownsend (talk) 21:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reviews! – Muboshgu (talk) 21:24, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Allie Reynolds

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Gio Gonzalez

Wait. Why did you revert my edit, but still keep the part that he was traded?Gibberish77 (talk) 02:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Even if the deal falls through, the fact is the teams agreed upon it, and that is notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I see.Gibberish77 (talk) 03:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Imperial triple crown jewels

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DYK for Nemo Gaines

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DYK for Brad Boxberger

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DYK for Ryota Igarashi

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WP Cannabis

Thanks for adding the recognized content template to the project's main page. It's a shame the project has so many members but so little activity. Perhaps WikiCup participation will bring new life to the project, which desperately needs more good and featured content! :) --Another Believer _(Talk) 01:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I'm planning on looking at WP Cannabis articles to see which are feasible for promotion during the WikiCup. Got any suggestions? – Muboshgu (talk) 17:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Found a ref

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2011 Tucson shooting

Hi there. I think I've gotten the lead up to GA standards. Please let me know what you think of it, and if there's anything else we can do. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've left some comments. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:07, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Good work. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 16:43, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try to reconcile the suspect sections of the lead and body today, and hopefully we can finish off this review. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:39, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Kuroda

Kuroda was signed pending physical. Read the sources and its all over twitter! http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75getback (talk • contribs) 01:37, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, "pending physical". That means he wasn't signed, only that he will be signed IF he passes the physical. And that's an "if". He's a 37 year old pitcher, and he could fail that physical, nullifying the deal. Please keep him listed as a free agent until he is officially signed. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Please tell me the chances of that happening. Out of all my years following baseball, only ONCE has a deal been dropped because of a physical — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75getback (talk • contribs) 01:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Frankly, anything greater than a zero percent chance is enough. Chances are that Kuroda will pass his physical, and so will the players in the Montero-Pineda trade, but we can't see the future, so we err on the side of caution on Wikipedia. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:50, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery

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Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Muboshgu

Hi, I'm afraid I have removed the GA that you have claimed, as it was nominated in 2011. This makes it ineligible for points in this year's WikiCup. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I understand, I guess, but I don't agree. Much of the work was done in 2012. What would that rule mean for Bonnie Newman? I nominated that article in December 2011, but nobody has started the review. Should I take it out of the queue and put it back in? – Muboshgu (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

It is assumed that most of the work on an article would have been done by the time you go to GAN (which is also good practice, but that's a side point). So unfortunately any article nominated in 2011 is not eligible. Apologies, Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 23:54, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, just to back up what Ed said. Taking it out of the queue and then putting it back in would be gaming the system, and so that wouldn't count either. I'm afraid this is something that the WikiCup has become more strict on in time. However, as it's quite easy to pass into the second round, it shouldn't matter. In the second round, the rule is still that content must have been nominated this year, so any content you nominated during round 1 will still count. Hope this clears things up. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 08:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

You are right re: gaming the system on GA queues. However, this sounds very restrictive in terms of what work was done when. All the articles I want to promote to GA, FA, or FL status, I've edited before 2012. It says on the WikiCup pages you want to honor the spirit of the rules over the letter. Would future promoted content of mine be rejected based on edits that I made prior to 2012? – Muboshgu (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Simpsons project banners

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That makes no sense. I can understand the past talk of not wanting to do the tagging, but undoing my tagging? If it belongs to the project, it should be tagged by the project. Frankly, this is why I don't want to become a member of the project. I'll be steering clear of articles of this project of the future. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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New superpac image

It makes more sense to update the image rather than uploading it under a new file name because this way the old image can still be preserved in case they change the name back (as they very well might). Otherwise the old file will just be deleted as a copyright violation as it will no longer be used in the article and therefore no longer qualify under fair use. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:44, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

The new image is by no means permanent. What evidence do we have that this will last beyond the South Carolina primary? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hall of Fame

The announcement that could inclue Larkin supposedly has not been made yet. USAToday says it will be in about an hour from now. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. I thought the sources I was seeing was an official announcement of his election. In any case, I'll try to prevent him from being added to that table until he's actually inducted. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

There's plenty of speculation that Larkin will be selected, but the announcement is not a done deal yet, as far as I know. MLB.com supposedly has live coverage, if you want to watch. As to that idiot IP, if he keeps up his threats and accusations I'll see that he's taken behind the woodshed. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

It was my mistake, as I saw the IP trying to add him and some sources that I now see are not up to par, including some from allegedly reputable sources. Add to that how the predictability of the vote suggests it will be Larkin and only Larkin, I jumped the gun without checking MLB.com. As for that IP, it's the first time I've been accused of racism in the New Year. That first accusation has to happen sometime, right? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:35, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

They never accuse me of racism. I guess I'm not trying hard enough. Meanwhile, get a load of this, from August:[1] It's not the first time he's leveled a bogus threat. And I wonder how he intends to get your "ISP number". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:41, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

You're too easy going to be accused of anything like that, IMO. I'm abrasive enough that I get all sorts of threats and charges against me. I should dive into the archives of Wikipedia and collect them all, except that I really don't have the time. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:29, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm easygoing? Wow! May I quote you on that? :) Anyway, the HOF voting is now official and Larkin is in. You probably knew that already. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, I guess I meant easy going compared to me. :P – Muboshgu (talk) 03:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Negro League Taskforce adds

Just curious, historically speaking, about recent adds to this taskforce, specifically Sam Kimber and Walter Plock. Were these two involved with the Negro Leagues in some way? If they were, I'd be interested in adding this information to their biographies. Thanks.Neonblak ^talk - 08:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I'd have to double check the accuracy. I added the taskforce to all pages contained within the subcategories of Category:Negro league baseball. That included those two pages. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I see what happened. Kimber and Plock were both in Category:Philadelphia Giants players. That category is for the Negro league team. The two played for a minor league team of the same name in a league I've never heard of (the Middle States League, Wiki hasn't heard of it either), which existed 20 years before the Negro league team. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

According to BRef Bullpen, it was an integrated league. Is that of interest to the taskforce? – Muboshgu (talk) 15:52, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I just took a look at the taskforce's scope, and it appears pretty vague. "dedicated to improving articles covering the African American baseball experience—players, leagues, and teams—prior to the full racial integration of organized baseball (that is, from the mid 1800s through the early 1960s)." Under this, the definition would cover these early integrated leagues. Whether it should cover the white players who played within them might seem outside of the scope due to the 'African American baseball experience' clause. Might be worth asking.Neonblak ^talk - 21:48, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

There's never any harm in asking. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Gary Sánchez

I have never really done any DYK's, but i'll definitely look into it. By the way, excellent work with the Michael Pineda article.--Yankees10 19:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I find DYK to be a useful way of promoting content, and getting some small bit of recognition for your work. It's not that difficult to get the hang of, and I can help you with it if you like. Thanks for the comment about Pineda's article, it should be promoted at DYK soon. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:07, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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David Adams (baseball) DYK

I just approved your DYK hook for David Adams (baseball). However, I think a hook regarding his role in the Cliff Lee would be more interesting. I suggested an alternative hook along those lines in the DYK template. Rlendog (talk) 16:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

You're right, interesting minor brain fart on my part. I must've been too focused on the newly added content. Thanks for the review and new hook! – Muboshgu (talk) 16:57, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for David Adams (baseball)

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DYK for Jimmy Van Ostrand

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Help needed with GA at Talk:Foley Square trial

What is the best course of action for the GA nomination at Foley Square trial? The GA reviewer started the review, then failed it 4 hours later, before I (the nominator) had a chance to reply. I think the reviewer got confused because he saw a PR nomination also. The reviewer is, apparently, rather new to the process, and did not consider waiting a day or two for the nominator to reply to his concerns. It is not a big deal: but I maintain the GA review did not fail. It was simply closed mistakenly. Certainly there is a process for handling that situation and just re-setting the GA nomination back to "in progress"? --Noleander (talk) 02:26, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I noticed the article fail and come back up, which caught my eye since sometimes articles are failed for good reason and renominated without any regard for the review that was done. In this case, I see what you mean. You're not supposed to nominate an article for GA and PR at the same time. On the other hand, it looks like that review was closed prematurely. You might be better off putting it back in the queue and waiting for someone else to pick it up. If you want to discuss what happened at a larger forum, you can create a thread at WT:GAN. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I think the reviewer was acting in good faith, just not very experienced. It was a mistake for me to nominate for PR, and I quickly cancelled that nomination. My preference is to continue the GA process with the original reviewer, and perhaps use this as a learning opportunity (for both of us :-) I'm sure he and I can work it out and get the article to GA status. Anyway, would you object if I removed the "Failed GA" template ... since it is not really an accurate statement? --Noleander (talk) 02:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I don't know about removing the template, since it is part of the article's history, whether it was a full and accurate review or not. It shouldn't really matter anyway. The people at WT:GAN know more on this than I. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:39, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

If the reviewer is happy to re-open the review then you don't need to keep the failed template. If they don't want to continue then it will have to remain as a record of the articles progress. AIRcorn (talk) 03:27, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. I've left a message for the reviewer inviting them to continue the review. We'll take it from there. --Noleander (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Falsified Names

Are you sick of the Carmona/Nunez stuff yet? :-) I've been wondering about the best way to approach needed changes to policy for this kind of thing, but I am not a very experienced editor when it comes to tasks beyond actually editing pages. Where do you think would be the best way to get some input from other editors and build some consensus? -- Wyvern t (talk) 18:21, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, some resolution would be nice, but it may take some time. In both cases, we've been trying to determine the common names for both, but a larger discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard might be in order. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:26, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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Curtis Granderson

Hi. I have initiated the good article review of the above article. I have some early concerns about the prose (I have left one example). I will conduct a full review over the next few days, but it might be a good idea for you to look over the prose before I go much further. AIRcorn (talk) 11:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Happy with the changes and passed the article. Congratulations AIRcorn (talk) 07:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! – Muboshgu (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Abraham Lincoln (Healy)

Hello! Your submission of Abraham Lincoln (Healy) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Smallbones (talk) 02:06, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I've now addressed your comments. Thank you for the review, and catching the article's problems. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

It's ok now, but I did suggest a tad more content. Smallbones (talk) 03:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep researching for more content. I haven't hit Google Books just yet. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Negro league baseball task force

I guess I missed your January 17 post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Negro league baseball task force and wanted to let you know that I've finally responded. BRMo (talk) 02:56, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Yoenis Cespedes

I disagree with you suggestion my edit to Yoenis Cespedes's wikipedia page was not a productive edit. Yoenis Cespedes is the correct spelling for the Cuban baseball player / MLB free agent.

This is displayed in the following article, published by ESPN.

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=7303390&wjb=&pg=1

Included in this article: "Just to clarify, although some reports have spelled Cespedes' first name with two "n's, the correct spelling calls for only one, Katz said."

"Katz" is Adam Katz, Cespedes's player agent.

This is a reputable source and proof that I am correct. Please reinstate my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.209.121.19 (talk) 22:53, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

The way you made the changes was not constructive in that they broke the page formatting. Also, you hadn't provided that source. I agree with it as a valid change, though, and I will move the page accordingly. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:12, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Pineda

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A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	It is with grand appreciation that I award you this barnstar for completing Good Article reviews for the December 2011 Good Article Nomination backlog elimination drive Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy to help! – Muboshgu (talk) 01:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Good article nominations

Can I request that you don't nominate articles until they ready. Darrelle Revis could easily be failed and many of the problems are the same as those noted in Grandersons. David Freese is much better, but there was still a citation needed tag present at the time of nominating. You can write Good articles so I am assuming you are nominating early to compensate for the backlog. I don't think this helps much as it can end up wasting reviewers time and in effect just makes the backlog worse. AIRcorn (talk) 01:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I know the intent is that an article should be at GA standards before it's nominated, but as you mentioned, the way it works with this backlog, I can usually make most of the changes needed before it gets reviewed. Revis' might have been a premature nomination, and I see the problems you're talking about, so I pulled the nomination for now. I'll work on it more and renominate it another time though. Freese's is ready for a full review, though. I just nominated it yesterday and I removed the cn tag as you were posting this on my talk page. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. You are not the only one that does this; I just noticed yours since I had only recently reviewed Granderson. I had a bit of a rant about this at WT:GAN with JClemens, but don't think there is an easy solution without keeping the backlog down (something that may never happen). AIRcorn (talk) 01:48, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the DYK review

Thanks for the quick review of Francis McIntosh -- As unlikely as it seems, I didn't realize the Lyceum speech was up for a DYK at the same time until I had submitted the lynching article (something I had been meaning to write for a while). It was a happy coincidence to discover yours was up. Thanks again! poroubalous (talk) 00:11, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I noticed the article when you wikilinked to it at the Lyceum speech page. I wasn't sure if your date request was a coincidence or because I have a couple in the Lincoln birthday hopper. It's not a coincidence that I reviewed your DYK though, I wanted to make sure it got reviewed in time to be included for the 12th. It's a very good article you started. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Mark Appel

Slap me with a trout. I only looked at the refs and didn't see the external links. I apologize for me not thinking. Bgwhite (talk) 06:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

No trout slapping be required. You tag lots of pages and nobody is perfect. Speaking of which, it turns out that the IP is right; he was born in Houston, despite what the external links say. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Choice

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DYK for Gerardo Concepción

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Colbert page

I worked on some edits for this page and see you are a major contributor. I did not put any of these on-line but I altered two others who work on page. Take what you want. Technically it was 527 organization and not 501 C... I added many cross links and see disclosure I wrote it and decide.

I see that this is a new editor without much experience... Other than the 527 organization suggestion (where I don't agree we need to get into for the article), I can't figure out what changes s/he wants to make without perhaps putting the two side-by-side - and I don't want to take the time to do that. Unless it's a major re-write, do you think we should just say to put in the changes (one-by-one and not all in one edit) and we'll go from there? Gandydancer (talk) 11:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow

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Americans for a Better Tomorrow, Tomorrow (better known as the Colbert Super PAC) is a United States political action committee (PAC) established by Stephen Colbert, who portrays a conservative political pundit on the television series The Colbert Report. As a super PAC the organization can raise unlimited sums of money from corporations, unions and other groups, as well as wealthy individuals. Speaking in character, Colbert said the money will be raised not only for political ads, but also "normal administrative expenses, including but not limited to, luxury hotel stays, private jet travel, and PAC mementos from Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus."

During the January 12, 2012 episode of The Colbert Report, Colbert announced his plans to form an exploratory committee to lay the groundwork for his possible candidacy for "President of the United States of South Carolina." In the process, he transferred control of the Super PAC to Jon Stewart, renaming it The Definitely Not Coordinating With Stephen Colbert Super PAC. On January 30, 2012, Stewart transferred the super PAC back to Colbert.

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DYK for Jon Weber (baseball)

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DYK for Abraham Lincoln's Lyceum address

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DYK for Josh Bell (baseball, born 1992)

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Ruben Rivera

Can you tell me why you deleted the "baserunning gaffe" section again? Your previous justification was lack of evidence that it was "notable", but the latest revision included ample evidence of notability. Thanks. - Hatster301 (talk) 23:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

My point was more that focusing on one play that doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things constitutes undue weight. I'll reread the article and respond on its talk page. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:14, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Could you address my response to you on the talk page when you get a chance? Thanks. -- Hatster301 (talk) 06:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Cody Martin (baseball) question

I have a question on Cody Martin (baseball). Why does he get his own article and not a mention on the Atlanta Braves minor league prospect page? I see you write a cajillion baseball articles, so you are an expert on this. I understand if a player was drafted in the 1st round or was in the Olympics. I just want to get an understating of cases like this one. Bgwhite (talk) 21:44, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

It's become an informal consensus among WP:BASEBALL editors (though it's not yet written into WP:NSPORTS, I'll propose it) that we should consider college baseball First Team All-Americans to be notable. In the three cases I'm working on today (Martin, Michael Roth (baseball) and Jason Krizan), they seem to meet GNG. The individuals on those minor league prospect pages generally don't have the same level of notability, though I'm sure some of them do deserve their own pages already. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I can understand First Team All-Americans. It would be nice to add it into WP:SPORTS. I'm confused enough as it is and adding it in would lessen my confusion level. Thank you. Bgwhite (talk) 22:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy to help explain my actions. I've started the discussion at WT:NSPORTS#College baseball All-Americans. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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I don't think that having a second image of Greinke really adds anything to the article, when it's a picture of him with the same team, and from the same year, as the infobox image. On the other hand, this image is an image of him from the 2009 All-Star game, and I feel like that would contribute more to the article than just another image of him with the Royals. Do you agree? Yankees Expert (talk) 22:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll respond on that article's talk page, because the discussion should be contained there. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:13, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

A. J. Burnett

I would have to say the Burnett to Pirates deal is done. I've added four news stories to the article and they all say that he was traded. This MLB.com article might be of interest to you: Barajas thrilled to reunite with Burnett on Bucs

Thank you for understanding. –BuickCenturyDriver 21:01, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Simply put, the deal is not done. Even that article about Barajas uses terms like "imminent reunion" to indicate that it's not a done deal of any sort. Selig could, theoretically, reject it, for reasons we don't know. The trade is not official until the commissioner signs off on it. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:22, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Baseball at the 2011 Pan American Games.

Hi, would you be interested in completing the article Baseball at the 2011 Pan American Games – Team squads? The squads are located here [2]. Thanks! Intoronto1125TalkContributions 01:00, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Five of the eight still need to be done? How about we split the work? – Muboshgu (talk) 02:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

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Questionable baseball articles

I was going to ask you if my prods on a couple of articles were correct, but I went there and now the creating editor made AfDs for them. Strange.

Could you check if I correctly Proded them. Do you mind me asking in the future about other Prods I may do? I usually see all the new biographies everyday and I want to get a better handle on what is and isn't a notable baseball article.

Players are Exicardo Cayones and Diego Moreno. Bgwhite (talk) 20:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I noticed yesterday that someone created those pages. I was thinking of nominating them myself, and I support them being deleted because they are beyond fringe players with no notability. We've only heard of them because they're being traded for A. J. Burnett, but that's WP:BLP1E to me. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Ibanez

Before reverting me, maybe you should have gone to the LoHud Yankees blog. Be a little more thorough next time please. RevanFan (talk) 18:21, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jordy Mercer

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DYK for Matt Hague

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Corey P. Hughes and Ryan Nawrocki

I proded Corey P. Hughes and the creating editor removed it. I also proded Ryan Nawrocki Could you take a look to see if I was correct in Proding them. Bgwhite (talk) 07:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I think you were. I don't see anything notable about them. There needs to be something, like awards or recognitions, for a minor league player to deserve an article or blurb on a minor league page. They don't seem to have that. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

What should I do about Corey P. Hughes? Should I merge or AfD. When should an article be merged or deleted? Bgwhite (talk) 20:04, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

In this case, I'd be inclined to delete both, because simply being a minor league player in an organization shouldn't be enough to get a blurb on a minor league page, or else those pages would be overrun with hundreds of players. Others may not agree with me, though. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm married... I only know about others disagreeing with me. Ok, I'll write up AfDs on them. Bgwhite (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Heh. I'll support the AfD. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Justin Pope

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DYK for Jennifer Worth

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Mason Williams

Yeah, it was deleted earlier this month.--Yankees10 22:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Hey, Muboshgu. Seeing how you updated the date of your first day on Wikipedia, Happy belated 6th Birthday! There is sickness in the air, people dying everywhere, but Happy Birthday! Bgwhite (talk) 22:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Well thank you. When I was looking at that SPI earlier today I threw my name in a log and found that I created my account about 14 months earlier than the edit counter registered my first edit. I don't know why I had an account I didn't use for more than a year, but I guess that counts even if I didn't edit anything. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I really didn't edit for my first few years either. Saying 6 years is much more impressive sounding, so hey keep it. Doesn't everybody fudge their age? My wife said I acted like a four-year old when we got married. She now says I've grown up and now I'm more of a six-year old... on a good day. Bgwhite (talk) 00:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Help from a Wiki Editor

Hello,

I'm hoping you can help me with an edit on the Francis Bicknell Carpenter wiki entry. The article contains a new entry by Jrcrin001 listed under "Portrait of Mary Todd Lincoln." This entry has to do with my discovery that the portrait of Mary was a fake. He or she is currently not taking talk contacts so I am not able to talk to that editor. The last line of his entry says: "Mr. Bauman is quoted to say, "Not only is it not Mary Lincoln, it's not Francis Carpenter."[10]" The footnote then directs people to the NY Times article.

This is not the original source for this quote--the quote is taken from my Case Study that the NY Times reporter used. I know that wiki prefers original sources so I tried to make the edit myself but since it was my first time I kept getting all these error messages--you'll see that in the editing history. I thought to myself I better not mess this up.

I think the NY Times quote and footnote should be left as is since it was amazing to me they put my discovery on the front page--but I'm hoping you could add a line after the quote stating. "This quote is drawn from Barry Bauman's Case Study on his discovery." and make this footnote 11. Then under footnote 11 add "The Demise of Mary Lincoln: An Artistic Conspiracy." linking to

http://www.baumanconservation.com/TheDemiseofMaryLincolnfs.html

I hope this is not too much trouble for you. I would appreciate an email reply to the email address at the bottom of every page from the above link. Thank you for your help.

Barrybauman (talk) 19:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)-barry

I think you should ask that user as opposed to me. Jrcrin001 is still actively editing. Wikipedia prefers secondary sources over primary. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply--I did try to do that of course but his talk note says he is not presently available (if you click on his talk address you will see what I mean)--so I just went to another editor on the Carpenter article for help--the Times reporter quoted from my Study and therefore the footnote should be changed to the earlier link--because Jrcrin001 is not available can you make the change? Thank you for your help--barry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barrybauman (talk • contribs) 22:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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