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Contested deletions

Hi. I noticed that you contested User:Mikhailov_Kusserow's speedy deletions of Talk:List of Jehovah's Witnesses publications/Archive 1, Talk:List of Jehovah's Witnesses publications/Archive 2 and Talk:List of Jehovah's Witnesses publications/Archive 3. Please note that these three pages are orphaned Talk pages of an article that was renamed List of Watch Tower Society publications. The correct archives are already located at the archive pages associated with Talk:List of Watch Tower Society publications, and the three archives under the old name are orphaned and superfluous. They should be speedy-deleted per the original request.--Jeffro77 (talk) 08:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Specifically, these come under criteria G8 for speedy deletion.--Jeffro77 (talk) 08:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
"No longer needed" is not a valid CSD rationale, especially when I have no clue "that these three pages are orphaned Talk pages of an article that was renamed List of Watch Tower Society publications." Feel free to retag them under G6 or G8. mono 01:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
All tagged: {{db-g6|rationale=Main page moved along with archives; page no longer of any practical use.}} by me. Airplaneman 04:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. mono 04:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I recognize that User:Mikhailov_Kusserow's initial description in the request for deletion was of poor quality. Thanks.--Jeffro77 (talk) 11:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hi, I noticed you contested User:babyox4420's article titled Talk:Storm Team 2 Weather App, which was added to the main WGRZ page in July 2010. I have to question the reasons where you believe the information was not from reliable sources. Sorry if I sound a little blunt, but would you not consider the actual tv station WGRZ and their website wgrz.com a reliable source?

I have included additional links to help show multiple reliable sources: WGRZ announces the Storm Team 2 Weather App: [1] (includes promotional video) WGRZ Storm Team 2 App on iTunes: [2] WSI Corporation (creator of Storm Team 2 App): [3] Gannett Corporation selects WSI as HD weather provider (WGRZ's parent company): [4]

I hope this clarifies any confusion there may have been with the article. Overall, the Storm Team 2 Weather App is an extension of the Storm Team 2 brand that WGRZ uses for its weather forecasts, and if deleted, would detract from the quality of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babyox4420 (talkcontribs) 22:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Maybe mono questioned their notablility, not just their sourcing. Airplaneman 22:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
I am not questioning that it exists. I have nominated the article for deletion, because it is not notable (it has not recieved significant coverage in reliable sources). Wikipedia covers notable topics—those that have been "noticed" to a significant degree by reliable sources. A topic is deemed appropriate for inclusion if it complies with WP:NOT and has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. mono 00:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

In this case if additional sourcing can't be found, would you propose making it part of the main article itself? The only concern some may have in this case is that some would suggest splitting it. I did want to ask what would you define as "reliable sources?" Third party site such as a mobile apps site? Google news? There can be some gray area there based on the link you listed with reliable sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babyox4420 (talkcontribs) 00:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

To be frank, the one-sentence mention in WGRZ is already more than enough, and I can't see any split proposal passing any time in the near future, in which case the article may be recreated. As of now, the app is not notable on its own. See my comments in the AfD. It would be advisable to fix up the article on the TV station itself, as well. Airplaneman 00:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Graphic Lab - Steinkjer Kirke

Hi,

I have corrected picture Steinkjer Kirke, wchich you had taken two days before. What do you think about my work?

Greetings PawełMM (talk) 08:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Looks pretty good. mono 23:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Db-u1? Why did you create it, then tag it for speedy? NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 01:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Just wanted to take a look, however there's no need to keep it around. mono 01:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

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great! iMay test it out with myself soon. mono 01:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Sorry, I do have a job for it, but I can't login with my TUSC account. Error message: "You are not authorized to log in, please request approval from one of the admins (see here for more information)." Could you approve me? mono 00:37, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Swabi District

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For your awesome improvements to Swabi District. They were desperately needed. Cptnono (talk) 22:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! I'm not quite done, however, I certainly appreciate this! monosock 22:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

MOTD

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And here you go!

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My motto to live by on Wikipedia...

Notify me if you want changes, as that can be done very quickly and easily. Oh, speak of the Devil, it's from Percy Jackson. I was roaming around your userspace for ideas and I saw the Percy Jackson Task Force, so I looked up some witty quotes from percy jackson. Belugaboyhow's my driving? 01:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I love it! mono 01:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Belugaboy seems to have forgotten something. :) There is a section in the request for you to rate the motto, on a scale from 1-5. Please do that, if you have time. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 01:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Just wondering

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} I do nothing about the signpost except reading it, so I was wondering if MOTD's recent changes could be covered in the signpost. I know it's not very notable but... Kayau Voting IS evil 07:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Maybe. mono 00:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Does it fit the scope of the signpost and if it does, are the chances high that MOTD's changes will be covered? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Your userpage

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} ...needs fixing. Again. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 17:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

iThink it looks neat :) Airplaneman 00:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
iDon't think so. It's smeared in blue and red, and I can barely see the links. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 01:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Motto thing

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Mono, Belugaboy forgot to add the → for his quote when he delivered it. If you wouldn't mind, this template has it, so if you could switch the one you have for this one, that would be great. Thanks. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 16:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

So, fix it. You ought to train your volunteers better... mono 00:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes, apparently he didn't see the instructions at the top of the page with a bold header... Oh well. :) The reason I asked you to was because I didn't know if you had it anywhere other than this page. Do you? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 00:16, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Okay, did it on this page. If you have it anywhere else, you can swap it. :) By the way, at the top of the page, you have hidden text that you can only see when editing the page, and it tells you to look at [[User talk:Mono|THIS PAGE]] which you would obviously already be seeing. :) ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 00:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

More_permissive_licenses

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Post signed for archival purposes. mono 01:36, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Gah!

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} Why? Airplaneman 04:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Mono, please explain why you g6-ed it. I'd like to know. Thanks, Airplaneman 04:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Uncontroversial deletion (qualifying under G6); page should be at Magic Trackpad (do we call it the Apple Mac Book Pro?). G6 used to perform a "uncontroversial page move." Cheers, mono 00:12, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ah, OK. See the decline rationale. Also, my edit summary specifically stated "moved Magic Trackpad to Apple Magic Trackpad: looks like the current trend; see Apple Magic Mouse, for example". Next time, please leave rationale or even ask me. I might even have g7ed it myself. So yea, take a look at WP:RM, and consider adding "Apple Magic Mouse" and "Apple Wireless Keyboard" to the mix. So yea, the main point is that g6 tags should ideally contain an explanation. Airplaneman 00:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sandbox header

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} Sorry, I never even noticed that (which is weird, because scrolling through its edit history showed that it was there for some time, at least when I last visited it). But why is that header there? What's the difference if users are constantly changing it and the box is automatically cleaned every 12 hours anyway? Nightscream (talk) 01:51, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I don't know. Likely someone thought we ought to have a banner (another one!) and created a warning for it ({{uw-sandbox}}) (why?!?!?)... Every time a user removes the banner (like you did, usually on accident) the bot resets it, so no harm done. Just thought you should know. mono 01:54, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Deo Volente

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Request for adoption

{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}} Dear Mono,

I was wondering whether I would be able to take up your offer for adoption on Wikipedia. I would very much look forward to it, I have learnt a lot of Wikipedia, having been a member for a month or so but still have a lot to learn. I feel that you are very experienced, and I was looking for an admin aswell and I though that you were very good and that I would learn a lot under you. I hope you accept my request to you.

Thank you very much.

Kind Regards,
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Hmmm... I don't exactly remember offering you adoption; but I'm willing to help out. Note that I have a little different style than some: please understand that I do not have concrete plans for you and I won't follow you around unless you ask me about something that's going on. I will be available to discuss the project with you whenever you want, however, if this doesn't sound like you, you'll be much happier with a different mentor. mono 23:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply


Mono, See here Wikipedia:Adoption scroll down to Mono and see what you said 'Apply on talk page'. --HelpingHandTalk 06:45, 30 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I am withdrawing my adoption request to you.Thank you very much.
Kind Regards,
--HelpingHandTalk 11:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

File:Vol cover.jpg

Please tell me if I have corrected the issue you pointed as your reasoning for deletion. I hope I have satisfied your desires for Wikipedia. I used another album's cover art as a reference on how to do this. Any help is appreciated! --Volbeatfan (talk) 04:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

You have. mono 00:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

File:COA of Gediminaičiai dynasty Lithuania.png

Hi, hope you didn't forget. ;) Have a nice day!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, quite busy. Should be done soon. mono 00:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oops - I didn't notice you'd marked this one taken, just saw it was stale, so by the time I saw that, I'd done and uploaded it - I am very sorry if you were working on it. My apologies  Begoontalk 15:09, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
That's ok. mono 19:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hi Mono,

Since you are the coordinator for the Apple Inc. Wiki Project Group, I figured I should just communicate with you directly instead of posting messages on 21 Apple related Talk pages.

I was curious if I could enlist the help of either yourself or other editors from the Apple Inc. Wiki Project team. I have a conflict of interest of posting about Apple products since I am employed by iFixit. I want to be able to provide quality content to multiple Apple product articles on Wikipedia, but I would be contributing from a biased point of view.

If you, or another editor from the wiki project team, could please check out my user page, all of the information and reasonings of mine are posted there.

Straife (talk) 00:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, iFixit doesn't appear to be reliable (no offense; reliable=peer reviewed and stuff), which leads me to believe that the addition of external links would not benefit the quality of the article (If the link is relevant, helpful and informative, it should be included). As I'm not familiar with the product/service, (maybe it is reliable) I can't exactly determine where these might be appropriate. I know you'll find a good deal of similar sites in external links sections, however, these sites really aren't helpful and shouldn't be there. You mentioned that the site was referenced in WP articles already, and this basically shows that the user who added it had to "crowdsource" from a "knowledge wiki". mono 00:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the quick response. In terms of reliability (peer review etc*) iFixit is not always 100% accurate in its content, since it is both contributed by community members and employees with both parties providing varying levels of quality consistency. iFixit's content goes through a peer screening process before a guide can actually be viewed by all visitors to the website. However, I only provided a list of iFixit repair manuals that were of a high enough quality to be worth linking to from a Wikipedia article. Since you are not familiar with our content, would you be able to pose my request to the rest of the Apple Wiki Project team? I am sure that someone in the project team has heard of iFixit and would be able to determine if my suggestions are valid.
I am not attempting to promote any products that iFixit sells (replacement parts and tools). I am merely trying to share the content/knowlede that iFixit provides at no cost. If a Wikipedia editor finds a source that has easier to follow instructions, better quality images, and less paid ads on a website, I would have no qualms with them choosing to not link to iFixit repair manuals. I just feel that it is important for Wikipedia readers to have access to knowledge about how to repair the electronic device they are reading about. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this subject.
Straife (talk) 08:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
OK, I'll bring this to the project discussion page. mono 19:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Transferred to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Apple_Inc.#External_links_for_Apple_product_articles mono 19:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Help-Adoption Program-Need a Mentor

Hello, I am a Wikipedian who has not been making regular contributions to Wikipedia, lately, and would like to return. I was previously involved with Wikipedia's Adoption Program, and was adopted by A Nobody, who has since been permanently banned form Wikipedia.

I have left a message on another Wikipedian's talk page about whether or not the adoption program was still in affect, and asked about getting some guidance help. The Wikipedian was involved in getting A Nobody banned, which I know nothing about. Sadly, the Wikipedian could not find it in his busy schedule to reply to my message.

Could you direct me to the right source?

Thank you,

Irshgrl500 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irshgrl500 (talkcontribs) 09:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
The user who left this question did not sign it. Please sign all talk page messages with a signature (~~~~)


The adoption program is still up and running (I am adopting users on a case by case basis; see User_talk:Mono/Archive_15#Request_for_adoption ).You can find information at Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area. Additionally, remember to "sign" your posts with four tildes (~~~~), which will produce your username and a link to your userpage. mono 19:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

WikiCup 2010 July newsletter

We are half-way through our penultimate round, and nothing is yet certain. Pool A, currently led by Hungary Sasata (submissions) has ended up the more competitive, with three contestants (Hungary Sasata (submissions), Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) and New Orleans TonyTheTiger (submissions)) scoring over 500 points already. Pool B is led by New South Wales Casliber (submissions), who has also scored well over 500. The top two from each pool, as well as the next four highest scorers regardless of pool, will make it through to our final eight. As ever, anything you worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

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10k+ Copy Edit

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GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks to all who participated in the drive! Over 100 editors—including Jimbo Wales—signed up this time (nearly triple the participants of the May drive). This benefited the Guild as well as the articles in need of copy editing. You can see from the comparison graphs that we increased the number of completed copyedits substantially. Unfortunately, we were not able to meet our goal of completely wiping out 2008 from the queue. We also were not able to reduce the backlog to less than 6,000 articles. We suspect people were busy with real life summertime things, at least in the northern hemisphere! We were able to remove the months of January, February, March, April, and May from the backlog, and we almost wiped out the month of June. We reduced the backlog by 1,289 articles (17%), so all in all it was a very successful drive, and we will be holding another event soon. We'll come up with some new ideas to try to keep things fresh and interesting. Keep up the good work, everybody!


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Your userpage...

is full of overlapping templates for me. I use IE8 on the monobook skin. Just telling you so you can fix it. Thanks, Access Denied(t|c|g|d|s) 21:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I think that's the point. fetch·comms 23:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

List of Muslim Rajputs

Removing redlinks is NOT vandalism. Kindly revert your edit to the article and remove the warning from my talk page. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 05:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Unexplained section blanking is vandalism. drippingflame 05:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
69 explained it in his edit summaries; he was removing red links. Clearly NOT vandalism since the article in question says it is only a list of those with existing biographical articles on wikipedia. Therefore the redlinks are out of place until such time as they have articles of their own. Millahnna (mouse)talk 05:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
If you look at the actual diff ([5]), actual entries were removed, not just the links. By the way, redlinks help Wikipedia grow, (see study) and should only be removed if there is no way that an article might exist. Please take common sense into consideration when applying policy, however, the explanation provided in the edit summaries does not explain the actual reason for removing the entries. drippingflame 16:36, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Actually if you look at that very same diff, no real entries were removed. Everything removed was either a red link or borked attempt at an addition (all of which also don't have existing articles). And per the article in question, "The following are prominent Muslim Rajputs with existing biographical articles on Wikipedia." I'm very aware that red links help wiki grow but when they run contrary to the information on the page, I don't see how they are helpful. Different interpretations I suppose; but still, hardly vandalism. Regards and happy editing. Millahnna (mouse)talk 16:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Is this why you put a talkback on my page? I have nothing to add. Millahnna has very nicely summed up my reasoning, and the fallacy of yours. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Talkback

I know how to use a watchlist, thank you!
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For your hilarious, but minor Igloo hiccup. (I am using Huggle which is probably 100 times more buggy.) elektrikSHOOS 03:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Quick on the rollback, though... drippingflame 03:11, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) I might as well add this...

Access Denied(t|c|g|d|s) 03:43, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

What the heck? This is getting fishy. drippingflame 05:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
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WikiProject Apple Inc. August 2010 Newsletter

The iNewsletter/issue 1/august 2010/by mono & dwayne
Project news
  • After several months of collaboration on Macintosh, the article was delisted from featured article status.
  • Last month, WikiProject Apple Inc. quietly launched several new departments (collaboration, outreach and strategy). A new program by the outreach department is preparing to launch a recruiting effort (ORDER).
  • Please take a moment to welcome our new members: Eraserhead1, Leet Sher, and Allmightyduck.
  • Details are being ironed out for a weekly project discussion on IRC. Contact Mono for more information.
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Battle of Ngomano

How long does an article have to be to meet the GA criteria? This particular article seems really short, and yet it's a GA nominee. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 23:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) An article do not have to be very long for GA as long as "it addresses the main aspects of the topic" ("This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics."), according to the good article criteria. - EdoDodo talk 23:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Umm...

About this, Mono(mium). Stuff like this makes you (at least the online version of you) and some of your actions seem ornery and/or attention-seeking. I would go as far to say that this is one of the main reasons you don't always get along well with users here. The least you could do is say something about it on your talk page and/or talk page edit notice (maybe using the template you linked to; that way people will know). I'll post here instead of your editor review to get your attention, as this is something you could improve. Airplaneman 02:51, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Just saw this as well… Airplaneman 02:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Added. Also, {{talkback}}s are meant to be removed.
 ock  03:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Of course talkbacks are meant to and can be removed; what I didn't take a liking to was the apparently snarky comments. There's no need for those. Thanks for clarifying. Airplaneman 03:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
FYI :) Airplaneman 16:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Bad reverts and false warnings

Still having trouble using Gloo without falsely accusing others, I see.[6][7] 69.181.249.92 (talk) 02:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Reverted seconds after, then tagged as WP:G7. Revert rationale was "speedy deletion template removed", so I reverted the edit, then realizing that it should be G7ed. A self-revert tool is coming, however, you'll see this with plenty of automatic programs.  ock  03:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

OS/360 and successors

Mono, are you good with some of the computer lingo? Perhaps you could help with OS/360 and successors and how to incorporate the other articles into this single one. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Not really. Stalkers?  ʄlame  17:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Re: Speedy deletion contested: List of Online Games for Kids

On my talk page, you said,

Hello Bk314159, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of List of Online Games for Kids, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: list (A3 doesn't apply); try PROD. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. drippingflame 02:33, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I believed that criterion A3 did apply because the page consisted exclusively of a collection of external links. Although there was no section explicitly titled "External links" (or similar), it did still consist of only external links, and was thus eligible for A3. Bk314159 (talk) 13:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
It was a list, which would be a collection of links, therefore, we use common sense and fix it. Some of the external links in the "list" have actual artices. Regards,  ʄlame  17:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
For the record, the deletion rationale was "A3 *does* apply to lists that consist exclusively of a directory of external links with no linking content." Lists aren't always just collections of links. See, for example, List of Percy Jackson & the Olympians characters. Airplaneman 19:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Well, yes, however, WP:SOFIXIT...  ock  07:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Fix what? I would hate for the PJ list to be a bunch of links. It may as well be a category, then. Another tip I'll put here instead of your editor review: work on your replies, which can be so curt that I can't understand what you're trying to say. Wikipedians are "cursed", shall I say, to communicate in text, so you have to be extra-clear. Airplaneman 17:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I felt, due to the fact that some items on the list of links had articles, that the list had potential. Instead of quickly tagging it, the "tagger" should consider whether the list might actually be worthwhile. Instead of "suggesting" it should be fixed with a CSD tag, why not fix it?  ock  17:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I see :). I don't think a list of online games for kids would be suitable on Wikipedia for a variety of reasons, though. For instance, what is a kid game? What is not? There are thousands of them. A category would be better, IMO. Thanks for clarifying. Airplaneman 18:37, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Macintosh is a GA

Just to let you know, I reviewed Macintosh against GA criteria, and I marked it as a GA for I believe that it meets the GA criteria. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 15:05, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid there are some problems with the article. I've started a community reassessment at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Macintosh/1. --BelovedFreak 23:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hang in there!

We need good editors-I've seen this same discouraged tag on four friends recently, cheer up, don't let them get you down.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

A break is always nice though. Maybe you just need to set a goal, and work for that one thing instead of bothering with any other stuff (like AfDs or whatnot). fetch·comms 17:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I second the two statements above. I find that some good old article work and a few successful GA noms really give you some motivation. Maybe a MacBook Air GAN? Airplaneman 21:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, I think I'll finish that up soon...  ono  23:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

The Wikipedia Signpost: 9 August 2010

Welcome back

Good to see you back at the Signpost. I think Rock drum also showed an interest in doing a Report for August 13, so you may want to let him know you've taken that spot. Also, how come you're deleting our interview spaces? -Mabeenot (talk) 08:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Glad to be back. After the drama and some rl messes, I decided to take a break. August 13? (the next Signpost publishes August 16). Finally, I thought it might be good to clean them up every so often.  ono  17:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oops... I meant September 13. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I bumped it up to Aug 30. Also, what do you think of a report on WPAFC?  ono  04:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Next Report

I may not have a reliable connection to the internet this weekend. If I have not already started the Report on WP NASCAR by Sunday, could you move the interview from here to the article for me? I'd be very grateful for your help. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I may not have a reliable connection either, so I'll just post a note at the newsroom.  ono  04:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Christmas motto series

Hi! As a contributor to the MOTD, I thought I would draw your attention to a discussion for a possible Christmas Motto series. If you get a chance, could you please pop in and give your thoughts? Thanks! Stephen! Coming... 15:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'll peek in.  ono  23:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hey

Do you really think he deserves his own article? I did that so an actual wikipedian would take notice and delete the article. Anyway the previous version seemed to have been written by an autistic 13-year-old and was not at all encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.247.6.82 (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I have tagged it for deletion. Blanking the page does nothing, so you know. Additionally, do not call people "autistic 13-year-olds", as that is a violation of the "no personal attacks" policy. Comment on content, not editors. Finally, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Thank you.  ono  21:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
"Autistic" is not inherently a personal attack. fetch·comms 21:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Well,yes. However, it certainly not civil and AGFy...  ono  21:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ok, thanks. --189.247.6.82 (talk) 21:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Is Dripping Flame your bot? Cause it isn't marked as one. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 22:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Ok, done. I am a "Wikipedian". Thanks. --RRV56 (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) Dripping Flame is Mono's anti-vandal account that is powered by igloo. ~NSD () 22:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Why, welcome! Yes, it is botish, but I click the button.  ono  22:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
By the way, your new signature uses <big> tags, which is discouraged per WP:SIG. ~NSD () 22:18, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Meh. You were the one who copied it (illegally). @RRV56: may I recommend adoption?  ono  22:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
My signature doesn't have big tags in it though, and it doesn't use the same font or color scheme. It also doesn't have a shadow effect. ~NSD () 23:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
It is clearly a derivative. Also, the gray border is the same...  ono  02:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
iAgree with mono. Personally, NSD, I liked your older sig better. It was less dark. Mono, don't use <big> tags, as iAgree with NSD on that one :). May I suggest <span style="color: asdfads;size= asdfadsf"> as an alternative ? Airplaneman 04:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) Access Denied <---Airplaneman's suggestion doesn't seem to work so well... Access Denied talk contribs editor review 15:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Heh; I'm sure there's no color called "asdfads" :). I was suggesting that the span style tag replace the current big tags in mono's sig. Airplaneman 17:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
BTW, I don't find Mono's sig disruptive; I only really find a sig disruptive when it's something like this... Access Denied talk contribs editor review 01:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Use of the <big> tag isn't what matters. The point of the guideline is that the sig should not be abnormally tall or large. I would say Mono's sig is borderline on that issue, but probably OK. However, the guideline also says that sigs should not be "distracting", a criteria I would definitely say is breached by Mono's current sig, but I suppose it is a matter of opinion. Kaldari (talk) 21:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
You can turn it off by adding .msig {display: none;} to this page.  ono  23:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
It's not about us, but about the community. Denying your signature for our viewing pleasure only isn't going to fix it. I really don't have a problem with your current sig. Kaldari was just pointing a few things out. So yea... Airplaneman 23:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Note a relevant discussion at Wikipedia_talk:SIG#Automatically_wrap_signatures_with_span_class.3F. Anyway, I'm really sick of this. Go write an article.  ono  23:53, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Alright; sorry for bugging you. Airplaneman 00:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Back to adoption

Hey, Mono. Sorry for not replying, guess I thought we two were done here (specially considering all the people who started typing here). Sure you can adopt me! --RRV56 (talk) 23:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Heh... I wasn't really offering to adopt you myself, but of course I'd be willing to help you. I have a little different style than some of the adopters here. Please understand that I do not have concrete plans for you, although I have some activities, if you're interested. I won't follow you around much, unless you ask me about something that's going on; I will be available to discuss the project with you whenever you want (and whenever my schedule permits). If this doesn't sound like you, you'll be much happier with a different mentor.  ono  23:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
No, that's alright. The only problem I see is my tight schedule, I won't be able to spend that much time in Wikiepedia, though I'd be happy to expand articles whenever I have the time. --RRV56 (talk) 15:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

File:525 BfSB.png Vectorization

I've noticed that your vector file of File:525 BfSB.png is particularly large - 2MB - is there any chance of a retrace (perhaps a proper one?) Thanks. Connormah 20:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you very much for reverting vandalism on my talk page and reporting that vandal on WP:AIV NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  01:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Glad to help!  ʄlame  01:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Mackenzie Caquatto

Which of my edits did you object to, the capitalization of her last name or the placing of categories on her page? You would be much better at attacking vandalism if you actually read the edits you are reverting. Please take a few seconds to pay attention to what you are doing in the future. Kinston eagle (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I thought that you were removing the categories, instead of adding them. My mistake.  ʄlame  01:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
You reverted less than a minute after my edit so it's not surprising that you would make a stupid mistake. Please be more cautious in the future and take a few moments to examine what you are doing. Kinston eagle (talk) 01:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I was using a semi-automated program, so most reverts a performed within a few seconds.  ono  02:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

User page

Per your editnotice, I just wanted to let you know that I made a change to your user page. In this edit, I made the M smaller so the talk page link worked. Before it would cover part of the link in a way that it wouldn't work. You are welcome to undo the edit if you don't like it, though there would still be a technical issue if the edit was undone. ~NSD () 15:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Poke

There's now a couple of questions for you to answer at the signpost interview. Thanks, Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Review me) 16:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Oreos!!!!

:| TelCoNaSpVe :| 02:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Warning sign
I am concerned with some possible copyright violations in this article, which remain from the time that you created the page.

For instance, the section now entitled "Contest (U.S.)" seems to be a verbatim copy of the website.

I also note that the text in "Prizes" appears on various websites that predate the article creation, e.g. webpronews.

Therefore, please could you check the article and remove any material that is a copyright infringement. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  05:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Done.  ono  22:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Graphic Lab interview at The Signpost

Hello Mono. You seem active at the Graphic Lab, so I wanted to invite you to participate in The Signpost's interview of the project. The report is being written by Rock drum and will be published September 13; this is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Please stop by and answer some interview questions here. Thank you,  â�³ono 

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Thank you!  ono  03:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 16 August 2010

WP:Univ

Now that I'm online and settled, is there any chance I can add a couple replies to the interview for WP:Univ? I noticed you've closed it to further comments, but I'd still like to participate if possible. -Mabeenot (talk) 15:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Go ahead! I'm OK with that. :)  ʄlame  23:04, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I told ya i wasn't gonna forget  ;)

Congratulations!

Happy Birthday!!

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Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday from the Birthday Committee

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Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake!

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Instead of making a new section, I'll just post it here: Happy birthday! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 05:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Happy Birthday - but I want to know something, how did you manage to fit in 14049 edits in 1 year! It puts me to shame. WVRMADTalk Guestbook 11:03, 18 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
All the best on your special day! Cheers, --Diannaa (Talk) 03:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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CVU Awards

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RE:Help

Because i do not know how to undo multiple edits. I tried undoing the only edit that really removed the roster, but it said cannot be done.Candyo32 00:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

You can use a script like Twinkle or apply for rollback at WP:PERM/R if you wish to do it yourself.  ono  03:42, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have rollback. Candyo32 07:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) You can get Twinkle(instructions are there) then - it will add a brown restore this version above diffs which, when clicked, will undo all the edits that follow it, restoring the page to that version. ~ QwerpQwertus Talk 03:17, 13 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

RFA

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Resolved
 – Not now, but thank you

I'd like to nominate you for adminship, but I thought I'd check with you first per WP:RFA/N. —Waterfox (talk) 22:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've responded by email.  ono  22:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Mono, I would recommend not going for adminship at this time. You have had a lot of issues in the past few months. Maybe in the future, but not now. ~NerdyScienceDude 23:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
If you don't take it personally, it can't hurt, really. You don't have to pass on your first attempt! I'm sure many users will drop by and offer support and/or good advice (others won't…), and most RFA questions are thought-provoking and may teach you something in the process. Either way, I'm indifferent as to wether you run in the near future or later. ;) Airplaneman 00:10, 13 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
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The Signpost: 13 September 2010

Volcanoes

Is there any chance we could move your WP Volcanoes interview up to September 27 (a couple weeks from now)? You seem to have collected plenty of answers already and nobody else has shown interest in doing an article for the 27th. -Mabeenot (talk) 00:18, 15 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sure.  ock  00:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Mark Heaney

{{Resolved}} Hello, I'm notifying you that a user has request the article Mark Heaney, which you proposed for deletion, to be restored. If you believe the subject still does not meet the notability requirements, please nominate the article at WP:AFD. Thank you. — ξxplicit 17:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

OK.  ono  feedback 19:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Template:AFC submission/tools

{{Resolved}} Not sure that collapsing it by default is the best idea, as that slows down the review process. What exactly was the issue with the noncollapsed version? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

BRD; trying to clean things up and rm distractions to newbies. Interesting sig...  Aaargh  02:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes, but it's now more difficult for reviewers (and users, when they try to see how to improve their article). Can you make it uncollapsed by default? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Done.  Aaargh  04:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)Reply