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Sure, I will put the article in my watchlist. 26oo (talk) 18:52, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Place of birth

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Proposed deletion of Canadian Somali Congress

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I use a UK VPN for viewing European football in the US. So if my IP is anon, so be it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.220.104.251 (talk) 01:59, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

"Category:Somali sultans" be replaced with "Category:Somali Monarchs"

I think the "Category:Somali sultans" should be replaced with "Category:Somali Monarchs" as many Somali rulers did not hold this title, but others like Emir, King, Imam, Governor, and Queen. Despite having these different titles they were still the monarchs of where they ruled. Is this possible to change? If yes, how do I go about this? AcidSnow (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Haha did you really call the category "Somalian"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AcidSnow (talk • contribs) 13:39, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Somali Sultans

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Article "List of poets from Somalia" renamed to "List of Somali poets"

Should the article "List of poets from Somalia" be renamed to "List of Somali poets" instead? AcidSnow (talk) 19:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Dir origin hypothesis

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Somali language

Why do you insist on calling Cushitic a "phylum"? No-one calls it that. And we don't need Arabic in the info box: That's for English and the language itself. — kwami (talk) 14:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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Al-Shabaab

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A barnstar for you!

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Culture of Somaliland

Should we also merge the article on Culture of Somaliland with the Culture of Somalia since its the same exact thing, but includes things not on the Somalia page? AcidSnow (talk) 20:41, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Barnstar

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		Just wanted to thank you for improving the article Somalis in Pakistan and for also creating the article Pakistan–Somalia relations which I was intending to work on! Your help is greatly appreciated :) Mar4d (talk) 02:52, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Difference between "Somali" and "Somalian"

Is there a difference between "Somali" and "Somalian"? I have never heard a Somali call them Somalian before, but on Wikipedia and several news stations would sometimes use "Somalian" instead of "Somali". If there is a difference is it like "Somalian" is for someone who is not ethnic Somali but was born, raised, or lives in Somalia? While "Somali" is the ethnic group? AcidSnow (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

That would be a useful distinction, but a "Somalian" would be any citizen of Somalia, including Somalis.

There are three tokens of "Somalian" in the OED, but they are said to refer to the ethnicity specifically, as opposed to the language or the country. However, I don't have much confidence that this interpretation, as it's contradicted by one of the examples:

The origin of the Somalian alphabet (1948)

Her father was Christian and disapproved of the general Somalian habit of infibulation (1976)

... fishermen [near Mogadishu] who had picked it up on a Somalian beach (1981)

The first is ambiguous, the second could be the ethnicity or the country, and the third is the country. — kwami (talk) 01:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Giving broader context for MSF decision to leave Somalia

Dear Middayexpress, thank you for keeping the page on Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) active and informed. i recently also made an edit to the main page, to clarify what was expressed publicly as the reason MSF announced in August of this year it would stop working in Somalia. though no one would argue against the fact that Al-Shabaab is part of the current Somalia, the fact remains that it is a complex place with many local groups and organisations that have either condoned or supported violence against aid workers and that fact led to MSF's decision to leave. i think it will give readers a fuller picture to not single out Al-Shabaab, since MSF itself did not do this in its communication around the closure (the current wording erroneously suggests this) because it is not an accurate statement. i look forward to hearing your thoughts, and hope we can look at further editing the entry. best regards, yokoloo Yokoloo (talk) 20:40, 13 November 2013 (UTC) (Preceding comment originally posted as unsigned, added by 216.191.43.4 (talk) 19:09, 13 November 2013 (UTC). I am a new editor and still learning how to sign and note different contributions, so i apologize for the error. i am in fact a registered editor, yokoloo)

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Hi Yokoloo. MSF's official statement on why it pulled out is here. The representative makes it clear there that MSF closed all of its programmes in Somalia due to attacks on its staff by Al-Shabaab militants, as well as perceived indifference or inurement to this by the governmental authorities and wider society. This was thus relayed on the wiki page. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

hi Middayexpress, thank you for your response to my talk invitation. the article you cite is penned by the president of MSF at the time, who is indeed representing the organization in what he writes. however, MSF's official statement as an organization is in fact here, dated 14 August. but to refer back to Dr. Karunakara's statement, he in fact clearly says himself that " 'Parties in Somalia' does not only refer to al-Shebaab." I would then suggest to you that to name Al-Shabaab in the entry gives readers the false impression that that one group had overwhelming influence on MSF's decision to leave Somalia; Dr. Karunakara himself in the piece you cite explains that this is not the case. i would like to reinstate my edits of earlier today to reflect the broader, accurate statement the organization and Dr. Karunakara made. Yokoloo (talk) 20:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Eritrea

I've left them a note on their talk page about the edits. If they continue let me know. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 22:07, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

it's hard to tell with so few edits. Probably need to give it a while. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 21:57, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not to good with sockpuppets unless they are really obvious. You might be better to open a Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

And just before I posted above the page was semi-protected. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Good. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 22:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted to before the problems began and fully protected the page. Please don't edit war. You are just as likely to get blocked as the other side. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 22:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Understood, and thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm chomping at the bot to block you too, Midday. Hey, are you implying that Skypernow1 and Birdwatcherblue are the same? Drmies (talk) 00:10, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, you did thank me for my edit on Eritrea and reverted back to it too. CBW was doing routine admin work. This is touched on here. Middayexpress (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Y'all's conversation is in two places, and you don't mention names but list diffs--I'm having a hard time following it, esp. since there's three accounts, and overlappings between two sets of two editors. Drmies (talk) 03:08, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

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Somali Airlines

Hi there, Middayexpress! Thanks for your copyediting. Hope you liked the expansion of the ″History″ section. I will continue with this within the next days. All the best.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 22:08, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

No prob. I will assist you. Best, Middayexpress (talk) 22:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

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You've been brought up for some drama. Drmies (talk) 05:13, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

It's at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive819#Eritrea- Possible conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Eritrea- Possible conflict of interest. I'm only replying to the one at ANI. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:41, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 13:38, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

And now we have an SPI with CU information, that's always helpful. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Eritrea sockpuppets

Blocked now. With something that obvious you can also make a quick report at WP:ANI if I am not about. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Alright, and thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 15:54, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Eritrean cuisine

Semi protected and just going to do Religion in Eritrea. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:37, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 23:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

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Al-Shabaab

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Bari, Somalia

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Blocked that last one you pointed out. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 03:02, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Blocked and article semiprotected for a month. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Shirdon

Is Abdi Farah Shirdon not the prime minister anymore? I dont understand the structure if the government of Somalia. Do you mind comparing positions to that of the USA? AcidSnow (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi AcidSnow. Article 69 of the Federal Constitution stipulates that the Parliament has the power to "give a vote of confidence in the prime minister and the Council of Ministers, and in government projects, to be conducted by a simple majority vote of the total members (50%+1)" or to "carry out a vote of no confidence in the prime minister and his deputy or deputies" [1]. This is what happened. Shirdon's deputies are now serving in the interim. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines

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Format

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Thanks...

...for the barnstar. Much appreciated. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

No prob. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Somalia

Great to see somebody of quality writing for Somalia at last!! It would be good to see the provinces and the 10 most populous towns up to a least start class!! Mogadishu looks in great shape, I think with a bit of work I could help you get it up to GA, but not right now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 19:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Baidoa looks like it needs a bit of work. You do know about google books right? [2]. If you paste a book url into here it makes a full book citation for you. Try this url as an example.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:49, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been meaning to get around to that one. It's an ancient settlement, several centuries old; the pages doesn't really reflect that, focusing instead on the recent conflict there. Middayexpress (talk) 19:55, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Recentism is always a problem of course. A nice historical source for Merca here. I think I'll create a Bibliography of Somalia some time.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. Middayexpress (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

See the power of google books on Yoboki!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:02, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

If you look at the U.S. or European town pages, very few have blow-by-blow accounts of every last conflict that took place there. They instead follow the general structure stipulated on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure. That I believe is the model to follow. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:15, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but for some places you'll find more about it than conflicts. That is a problem though that most of our information about African places is from wars. You can't expect African towns to have the same sort of coverage as US and Europe, and you can only go by what is covered in reliable sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Understood. However, per the guideline above, occupying powers/transitions of power and events that shaped the community are only two of the constituents parts of the narrative of a settlement's history. The history is, in turn, itself but one aspect of a town/city. The wiki guideline is also specifically intended for areas outside of North America and Britain ("This guideline is a supplement to specific guidelines on writing about U.K. cities and towns, U.S. cities, Canadian cities and Indian cities[...] This guideline does not replace those, but amalgamates the information in order to serve as advice for writing about settlements not in those geographic regions"). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Problematic Somali settlements

Can you find anything/cleanup Badel, Somalia, Carmaale, Gadaado, Hamur, Somalia?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:03, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Dervish State

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new African categories

I was just thinking about creating such categories yesterday, but had not come up with names. Yours will work nicely. Do you also plan to create the same type of category for the other regions (East, West, etc.) that currently lack them or should I do so? Also, I think we should match the existing template I added as to which categories to create what to populate them with. Hmains (talk) 18:48, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. The remaining west and central geographical areas are covered now, and the templinks match. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 03:56, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank your for editing HornAfrik Media Inc! Crtew (talk) 19:32, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Should Inc. have a period or no period? In the company article there is no period. In the the other attacks on article, there is a period. Regardless of the decision, it should be consistent! Crtew (talk) 19:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Without a period works ok; I'll rename the other page to match. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

I think you did a great editing job on that article! Thank you, Crtew (talk) 19:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

No prob. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 19:55, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

This article, User:Crtew/Ali Iman Sharmarke, will be in mainspace shortly.

Good to know. Middayexpress (talk) 20:19, 18 December 2013 (UTC)