User talk:Mann Mann/Archive 2016

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Xiongnu

There is a discussion on the talk page, that you had previously stated an interest.--Kansas Bear (talk) 21:43, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A section of the Bactria article needs to be addressed.

Recently I was on the talk page on the Bactria article starting a new discussion about the section known as Tokharistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bactria

Reason being is because although it says in the last sentence "Later, in the 5th century, it was controlled by the Xionites and the Hephthalites but was reconquered by the Sassanids" There are unfortunately no citations or sources anywhere to support this claim.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactria#Tokharistan

This is why I believe this must be discussed by the editors of the article. I'm not sure how much have knowledge you have on this, but hopefully you can put your input on this. I linked the discussion for you as I did with Rcsprinter123 Kirby (talk) 05:32, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Medes

Hi You wrote me on Wikipedia:) My reliable source was Daniel 6 from the Hebrew Scriptures YoCuzwaasup (talk) 22:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@YoCuzwaasup: Hi. Please read WP:RELIABLE. Discuss your edits on Talk:Medes. --Wario-Man (talk) 05:46, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Tirgil34

Hi Wario-Man,

Take a look at contributions of banned sock Intelinside13core (talk · contribs). It seems that the long-term abuser has obsessed with you since 2012. 46.221.221.7 (talk) 11:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

See this. --Wario-Man (talk) 03:59, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
See 1, 2, 3. Also, I have noticed more socks while I was checking his targeted articles. Thus, the SPI might be a bit late. In addition, see this user who restored socks' edits here. The sock account was created in 2012 and re-activated in 2016! I have also noticed plenty of proxies edited the article. 46.221.219.221 (talk) 10:59, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
It's not helpful to find all possible and suspected accounts by yourself and then try to report all of them. Because admins usually ignore stale accounts. Plus, admins can find all related accounts by checkuser (stale, active, sleeper and new & untouched ones). You should report recent activities and current active accounts in my opinion. --Wario-Man (talk) 04:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
No no, you misunderstood me. I am not going to report stale accounts on SPI, of course. I mean, I have also noticed the other suspicious account and proxies that are currently active-That's what I was talking about. By the way, it is also important to detect stale socks and proxies, thereby can report them when they become active again. Remember Egapleicesp case. Cheers, 46.221.215.221 (talk) 06:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
PS: Most of the socks that were banned within this year were created when Krakkos was not active on WP. See November case and account creation date of those socks. 46.221.215.221 (talk) 07:13, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, you can comment on recent SPI case, since you are also familiar with it. What do you think regarding Nusdlog1? 46.221.198.228 (talk) 17:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Unfortunately, the case is closed. I suggest to verify cited sources by Nusdlog1 & Ilber8000 and see if he (or they) falsified/misrepresented those references or not. For example, his current revision of Blond[1]. Is it a POV version? Plus, you can revert the edits of all confirmed sockpuppets. You need a WP account, because some articles are protected and anonymous users (IPs) are limited. Register an account because it makes your work easier. --Wario-Man (talk) 05:25, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for advices...l'll take a look at them when have time. Best wishes, 46.221.198.228 (talk) 09:23, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
Sigh...See this. Plus, it seems that he knows Turkish (added sources in Turkish) and understand Russian like Tirgil34. An another Tirgil-like edit (adding a link to show the affinity between Europeans and Native Americans: [2]. See the last SPI case. Wario, @Iryna Harpy: what do you think? He has been socking for 5 years and when his socks are banned, he just creates new ones. Admins should provide a clear-cut solution for this vicious cycle/unending sockings.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.221.176.113 (talk) 03:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
P.s.: The newer Tirgil34 socks tried (and are trying) to show that certain IE cultures targeting by him had actually non-IE dna such as Q, N...etc to undermine their IE identity. Thus, there is a paralellity between the suspicious account's edit on Pazyrk culture and banned sock Zolotoya Number's edits on Karasuk culture and haplogroup Q. 46.221.176.113 (talk) 05:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
I saw it. Plus, I think this one is suspect too. --Wario-Man (talk) 03:58, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
No idea. I will take a look at that account's contributions thoroughly. But the point is that the vicious-cycle that i have mentioned above. He has been socking for "at least" 5 years very actively. The last SPI case was closed just a few days ago and we have noticed new socks. We need clear-cut solutions here. Any suggestions? I think, indefinite block for ALL VPN proxies and hard block for his physical IPS are crucial. Otherwise, blocking his socks alone doesn't work. If there is an ongoing sockpuppetry for years, it indicates that admins/checkusers are not deterrent enough. 46.221.176.113 (talk) 04:28, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
@UY Scuti: i have the list of all VPNs. Is it possible to block all, if i reported them on project page? Many of them were already blocked, i believe...It is a bit tiring but crucial to stop sockpuppetry. Unfortunately, i don't think that checkusers check the IPS of sockmasters to determine if they are proxy or not-just label them as "unrelated". 46.221.176.113 (talk) 10:28, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Please register an account and contact other editors via their own talk pages. I will archive this discussion. --Wario-Man (talk) 13:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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FAC: The Ecstatic

Hi. Would you be interested in reviewing my nomination of The Ecstatic for featured status? Dan56 (talk) 13:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Dan56:. Sure, I will check it tomorrow. --Wario-Man (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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I noticed you had a question about finding edit summaries of a particular type that didn't get an answer. For questions of this type, WP:VPT might get you an answer.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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Please discuss on the article's talk page if you disagree instead of continually reverting edits. You mentioned Wiktionary. Well, Wiktionary defines ater as black, malevolent etc. Nowhere is fire listed as a definition of the Latin word. Read carefully please. Fire is only mentioned as the meaning of the PIE etymon not of the Latin word itself. Foreverknowledge (talk) 13:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@Foreverknowledge: You're right and I'm sorry for my carelessness. I should be more careful. Cheers. --Wario-Man (talk) 06:29, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Dubious user/edits

Hi Wario, something particular catched my eye which made me believe that it would be worth sharing with you. I noticed that this user, whose block log reaches well into the double digits, has a very odd editorial pattern -- he makes weird edits, never reasoned (in 99% of the cases not a single word is used in the edit summaries). More funnily, he switches between making petty edits on absolutely zero profile Wikipedia articles, to making (relatively often) controversial unreasoned/unsourced changes on pretty sensitive, rather high-profile articles here and there. Apparantly, said user recently returned from another long time being blocked. Not particularly our scope of editing at all, but it never hurts keeping an eye out. Anyways, that's all. :-) Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 03:14, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@LouisAragon: Hi. I've noticed his edits too. For example, these recent edits: [3] and [4]. He changed sourced content and accepted version of lead section (replaced sourced content with his pov). What do you think? --Wario-Man (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's good you reverted it. Unsourced, unreasoned, mainly. Interesting enough, his revision also includes the entire removal of all cited quotes.
- Btw, you're doing a really neat job at SP! Thanks for that. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:48, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
I just left a comment here. I'd like to stipulate that this users "concerns" and edits are sometimes rather dubious. Quite a few of them seem to be grounded in the promotion of Kurdish ethno-nationalism, and I think his concerns regarding the map have very much to do with that as well. See this, for some other relatively recent examples that attest to this.[5][6] Thought it'd be good to share with you. Bests - LouisAragon (talk)-

Persian Language Location Map

Hello. about Persian Language Location Map, the Previous map had some mistakes. for example Sonqor Satar Sahneh Kangavar Harsin Bisotun Ilam and Kamyaran in Iran and some parts of Diyala Governorate in Iraq considered as Persian speaking cities but it's not true. I replaced it with another map and I corrected the new one. --– Hossein Iran « talk » 12:27, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Hosseiniran: Hi. Start a new section and discuss your concerns on Talk:Persian language. --Wario-Man (talk) 17:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Highly disruptive sock IP's

Hi Wario, I made a section on ANI about the newest range of IP's of this sockmaster (whom I believe you had experience with). Feel free to leave a comment. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Parthian Empire

Did I ever thank you for giving me a barnstar for the Parthian Empire article? If not I apologize. Thanks for that! Sorry, I haven't been very active on Wikipedia in years and only just recently started editing again. Cheers. Pericles of AthensTalk 03:51, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey

Re the archiving edits at Talk:Iron Fist (TV series) and Talk:The Punisher (TV series). The reason I removed them, particularly at The Punisher, is there are so few discussions on each, an archive isn't really necessary at this time. I hope that intent was clear with my edits, not suggesting what you did was wrong, just unnecessary at this time. Cheers. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:12, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

@Favre1fan93: No problem. I read your edit summaries. I thought you were right and that's the reason why I reverted my edits. Because there is no point to enable archiving bot and archive navigation box when there are no sections to archive. Too soon. Thanks for your reply/clarification. Good luck! --Wario-Man (talk) 10:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! And thank you too for the clean up/formatting edits you've done to MCU-related articles. I've seen your edits for a little bit now on the articles, and even though they are just "cosmetic" at times, they are definitely appreciated! - Favre1fan93 (talk)

Roxana

Wario-Man, I am trying to edit the page below, I know its semi protected but there is innacurate information on it which I can prove with the only book written about Alexander the Great's incursion in Afghanistan.

The wife he took in Bactria(Modern day Afghanistan), was not Iranian or Persian as the wikepdia page says she was. Link to page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxana

Please remove the reference to Old Iranian in the first line as there was no "Iran" at that time. The area where she grew up and held a princess title was in Bactria(modern day Afghanistan), it should say this in the page. Please allow me to add this to the page and make the necessary corrections.

My Source:

    • Renault, Mary (2006). Into The Land of Bones: Alexander The Great In Afghanistan. University of California Press; 1 edition. ISBN 978-0-520-24993-6. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
@Shawhistorian007: Start a new section on Talk:Roxana. I will reply to you there. --Wario-Man (talk) 07:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

About Tukharistan and Khurasan

I have been out of Wikipedia for a month, and have to clean the dusts from my book to show you the sources, but I will try and bring it (have been saying that for months), but I assure you 110% Tukharistan is more factual while Khurasan is just too vague. Tukharistan is just eastern Khurasan, on top of that Balkh is an iconic city and capital of Tukharistan. I would recommend using Tukharistan, even though a Wikipedia page is lacking isntead we get Bactria (only has three lines for the Islamic period, when you can write 50). For certain Historical Islamic regions, Wikipedia deems necessary to use an English applicable name, For example Upper Mesopotamia was known as Jibal (Literally Mountains). I hope you understand why I think of that. If Balkh is Paris, then Khurasan is Western Europe, while Tukharistan is France. That was my thinking when I was reading the article. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 21:22, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@Alexis Ivanov: I think it's better to write your comments on article talk page. The related section (opened by yourself) is still active. I will participate there. --Wario-Man (talk) 05:55, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
I like this place better no offense. And I have some contention with another user in the discussion that I don't want to increase any form of hostility, since I believe their knowledge is inadequate, with all due respect. I will add new comments in the talk page of Rumi later in the mean time, I am giving you my reasons for my actions and thoughts. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 06:29, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

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Sigh...

Dear Wario-Man, could you please check the last edit on Pazyryk culture? An ip added a huge and Tirgil-like (most probably his co) content to the article and i cannot check it due to my Internet problem right now. Plus, i saw some suspicious edits/users on other articles too. I'll watch them later. 46.221.177.184 (talk) 18:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@46.221.177.184: IP copy-pasted it from Britannica.[7] Except copyright violation, what's wrong that content? --Wario-Man (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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