London2024
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After al these years of reading Wikipedia, though it would be abou time to finally help out! If I stuff up, please let me know so I can endeavour not to do so again. Ta London2024 (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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- Thanks for this, very kind of you. London2024 (talk) 16:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Edits adding material to roads articles edit
Hi London2024! It's great to see your enthusiasm for contributing to WP, only a very small percentage of readers become editors so you have joined a noble merry band. Please beware that the main method of communicating here, the talk page, is a very blunt tool as it is difficult to see in an emoji-less and body-language-less medium what peoples' intentions are behind their comments, and the vast majority of editors make their comments because they genuinely want to improve WP.
Can I please ask that you take a moment to read around some of the non-article stuff on here about how to edit Wikipedia well, some of the main links appear in the welcome note above. You'll also see in experienced editors' edit summaries a lot of linked abbreviations such as "does not meet WP:NROAD" or "removed per WP:ELPEREN" - these are ways to learn about specific policies that you can't reasonably be expected to know about on day 1. But follow such advice and you'll have less and less pain of seeing your edits reverted - anyone can edit WP, but also anyone can revert if the edits don't follow policy - that's how we eventually end up with better articles.
Anyhow, the main reason for this message is that there is consensus that a lot of roads articles are in a poor state, and will be improved by removing material rather than adding it. Please visit WP:UKRD for a summary of what is going on, and what is being aimed for. In particular, we're looking to thin out excessive detail in route descriptions, not add more. All material on WP should ultimately be supported by reliable external sources, which specifically excludes open wiki sites such as SABRE and social/blog sites. One of the key things to learn early on is how to use the citation template to link your added (or the existing) material to a reliable source - see WP:CITE.
I'm planning to revert much of your addition to A232 road as while there is nothing factually wrong about it, it is working against what is being done to improve road articles - reducing excessive detail to make the article more readable. But I wanted to extend you the courtesy of explaining this, so that you aren't discouraged from becoming a long-term contributor to Wikipedia.
I've run out of time to do it tonight, so if you want to thin it back yourself before I get to it, please feel free. I don't know everything, but I'm happy to give advice if asked - I may take some days to reply as I work full time in a real world job!
I'm now watching your talk page, so if you use the reply button below, I'll get a notification. Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 01:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hello and thank you for your kind messages. I agree that the article probably goes into excessive detail and repeats things in certain sections. I will have a go at slimming it down. Please feel free to do the same. The main thing is that details which clearly benefit the article are not left out, but that should be possible whilst compressing the article down. London2024 (talk) 16:54, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
January 2023 edit
Hello, I'm Philipnelson99. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Shapwick, Somerset, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, no worries. I may look for a source another time. London2024 (talk) 02:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) To pick up on this, the pillar of Wikipedia is that any statement you add should be linked to a citation that says where the factoid comes from eg "it is regarded as the quintessential..." - you need to say who decided this. You? The parish council? A walking blog? A travel guide? A school textbook?
- I did try to make this as clear as possible in my previous very long answer, and I was trying to help you grow as an editor. The place to start improving articles is not inside the article itself, but outside - by collating information from reliable sources (not blogs, not user-published, other wikis, etc) and adding that information to the article, and removing previously added material that while no doubt added in WP:Good Faith cannot be proven anywhere outside of WP. If you want your contributions to stick (as editors, probably most of us do, nobody writes content in the hope that it's deleted!) then they are much more likely to if supported by a reliable source.
- Please don't be discouraged - keep contributing, but keep citing too! Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 16:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, when you're writing text about the route, can you at least include a citation to a map (which I presume you are using)? It makes things less likely to be deleted. Rschen7754 21:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Blocked as a sockpuppet edit
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 16:19, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Epsom and Ewell Harriers moved to draftspace edit
An article you recently created, Epsom and Ewell Harriers, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more in-depth coverage about the subject itself, with citations from reliable, independent sources in order to show it meets WP:GNG. It should have at least three. And please remember that interviews, as primary sources, do not count towards GNG.(?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.Onel5969 TT me 12:39, 4 February 2023 (UTC)