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Sincere Apology

Hi, this is a sincere apology from a Wikipedian for threatening you continuously. Sorry. Billapartygang123 (talk) 11:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

MC Stan

Hello Liance Thanks for reviewing Draft:MC Stan, As I can understand that the draft was not much elaborated but as you declined it on behalf of not having WP:RS, I feel it does have enough RS although if you can guide me a bit with what is wrong with its sources as it does have sources like [GQ] and [Rolling Stone], Have you declined them cuz they are Interviews? Thanks Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 13:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi suryabeej - your draft article was declined on account of not meeting the criteria at WP:MUSICBIO. Every source you cited at the time of review was an interview, and they are often considered to be primary or non-independent sources. Articles about musicians require multiple, reliable, secondary sources that demonstrate significant coverage about the artist themselves, not solely their works - please try to locate sources to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO if you wish to resubmit. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Got that, Thank You Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 06:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

File:Puffy-Logo.png - Flag Copyright

Why this is being flag as copyright? How can I add a logo that a organization is using? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Puffy-Logo.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liptapp (talk • contribs) 17:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Liptapp Your file was upload to Wikimedia Commons which only allows files with free-use copyright terms. Copyrighted works like logos of organizations cannot be uploaded to Commons, as the company that owns the work holds its copyright. If there is a published article on Wikipedia about the company (not a draft) you may upload its logo using Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and selecting Upload a non-free file, but note you cannot do it at this time for the file you linked does not have a published WP page. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Liance Thanks this is very helpful because this is my first time to upload and create article, so for now It should be deleted right? How can I delete it I don't want to get block from wikipedia. Liptapp (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Liptapp One copyright violation upload will not get you blocked from Wikipedia or its sister projects so I would not worry. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Careful

This is wrong because, as an elected member of a state legislative assembly, Tripathi meets WP:NPOL.

The draft was a terrible mess, mind you (I've started cleaning it up), and I'd definitely want to check that the sources all say what they're claimed to, but there was absolutely a reasonable claim for notability. DS (talk) 18:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up DragonflySixtyseven - apologies for the error and will be sure not to make the same mistake again. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Request on 06:44:19, 11 March 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Roostermau5

• Roostermau5 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Nicholas Mihailou (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Liance,

Thank you for your feedback on the draft submitted by myself previously.

What would be required for the draft to be accepted as a notable figure? I just want to clarify that it must include further citings in notable media proprietors and remove the sources which you deemed to not be suitable for Wikipedia. Hypothetically, if a multitude of new sources are included, should I submit again and with a higher chance of approval?

Thank you Liance.

Roostermau5 (talk) 06:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Roostermau5 - Wikipedia articles on people must meet notability criteria by citing reliable sources which are secondary, independent (not affiliated with the subject) and show significant coverage (see WP:NBASIC). Adding references that specifically fulfill the requirements helps to establish notability, and if you feel that you can demonstrate the subject's notability this way then you can resubmit your draft. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Question Regarding the Scrat Tales Draft

There’s another tweet from another former employee who worked at Blue Sky that confirmed that the series was coming out that I forgot to add to the Development section, but other than that there isn’t any reliable/notable news articles covering the tweets from the employees. Even if another tweet from another former employee isn’t enough, should I just remove the entire section for Pre-release controversy per your suggestion? SlySabre (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey SlySabre - facts, especially those that may be controversial or contested, must always be backed up by a reliable source for verifiability. If, aside from one or two tweets from former employees, there is no coverage in a reputable source about the rumor, then I would recommend deleting the section entirely. If more reliable coverage of the controversy in 2022 and beyond emerges then the section could be reinstated. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks for getting back with me and letting me know. SlySabre (talk) 18:47, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

How is an organization determined to be notable?

Hi Liance!

I hope all is well! It seems that the Vaad HaBadchanim is not a notable enough organization to receive an article about it. What makes an organization notable or not? For context, the VHB is a known and respected source in the Jewish world for its humor, and runs an annual tournament with the best of Jewish humor that gets tens of thousands of votes.

Thank you so much for your time, and I appreciate all of the work that you put in to make Wikipedia a great website.

Best, Schwartzavij (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Schwartzavij, thanks for reaching out. On Wikipedia articles about organizations must meet the notability requirements for organizations and must fulfill the relevant criteria by citing reliable, independent, secondary sources that have significant coverage about the organization itself. This means that cited sources should cover the subject organization with deep, non-trivial detail, and be secondary sources that are unaffiliated with the organization. Hope this helps! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:27, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Pkillamusik1 on User:Pkillamusik1 (19:56, 15 March 2022)

Pkilla Musik Net Worth --Pkillamusik1 (talk) 19:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Pkillamusik1 Do you have a question or need help? -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:28, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:All Day 8 SPC Any Severe Days

Thank you for rejecting this non-article. This is just a bad test by a newcomer while all info in it is already in the article Storm Prediction Center. This user should not be allowed to create a redundant article.

Pierre cb (talk) 03:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Pierre cb No problem, thanks for letting me know. The submitting user had not included any context so the draft fell short of our required policies regarding context anyway. I will add a note to the draft so future AfC reviewers will be aware as well if the draft is resubmitted. Best, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 03:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Pkillamusik1 on User:Pkillamusik1 (20:25, 16 March 2022)

User:Pkillamusik1 i was deleted i want my page back? --Pkillamusik1 (talk) 20:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Twisted Wood Guitars

Hi Lance. The article draft for Twisted Wood Guitars cites a respected paper which discusses the company in detail, the largest ukulele publication in the world which produced a full 4 page spread about the company, a top 5 wide-reaching industry magazine which discusses the company in detail, and the largest ukulele review site in the world which published a several hundred word review about one of their instruments.... I query how that doesn't constitute significant coverage from reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. I appreciate your desire to be zealous, but in this case, I think perhaps look into these citations in further detail. Many Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Learningtouke (talk • contribs) 21:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Learningtouke - on Wikipedia, articles about corporations have higher standards and must meet the notability criteria for companies, this means citing sources that demonstrate significant coverage in reliable, independent, and secondary sources. A cited source must meet all of the aforementioned criteria, please review WP:ORGCRIT and WP:CORPDEPTH for more information. Your draft article was declined because I did not feel that there were multiple sources that met these criteria and demonstrated notability. If you add more sources and meet the criteria you can click the "Resubmit" button to get another review. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 21:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liance, I have reviewed WP:ORGCRIT and WP:CORPDEPTH.

As aforementioned, the article did contain multiple well-known and reliable independant sources that demonstrated significant coverage of the corporation. 2001:56A:FA97:E800:7449:B402:90CD:75D2 (talk) 21:24, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Could you list the sources you are referring to? -Liance^{talk/contribs} 21:32, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

https://ukulelemagazine.com/gear-reviews/ukulele-review-twisted-woods-switchback-tenor-has-a-clear-warm-sound

https://msretailer.com/omg-music-obtains-exclusive-distribution-of-twisted-wood-ukuleles/

https://www.gotaukulele.com/2021/12/twisted-wood-ember-concert-ukulele.html

https://www.stalberttoday.ca/entertainment-news/hawaiian-style-1287632 Learningtouke (talk) 21:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

1. Ukelele Magazine might be good for establishing notability about the company's product, but there are maybe 1-2 sentences max that discuss the company itself. We are looking for significant coverage about the company, not their products. Also may not qualify as a reliable source.

2. Retailer constitutes trivial/routine coverage (see WP:NCORP#Examples of trivial coverage) and is little more than a business announcement. Also is less than WP:100WORDS in total.

3. Got A Ukelele same as the first source, maybe 1 sentence max actually concerns the company itself rather than its products.

4. St. Albert Today appears to be mostly an interview and quotes from the company's founder which makes it non-independent and a primary source. Additionally please see WP:LOCALCOVERAGE.

Learningtouke Next time, please read through the entirety of cited guidelines like WP:NCORP before requesting additional help, as it would have answered any questions you had regarding your draft. Additionally, if you believe you have a conflict of interest with the company or were paid to contribute please WP:DISCLOSE your connection or you may face a block from Wikipedia. Best, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 22:00, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Examples of substantial coverage

Media coverage of a company's product is regarded as substantial coverage of said organization.

I'm familiar with the guidelines.

Please don't threaten blocks for entirely unsubstantiated presuppositions. There is no need for that, and that kind of inane comment severely reduces the quality of work that we are able to do here.

Many Thanks Learningtouke (talk) 22:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Please see WP:PRODUCTREV? Reviews that narrowly focus on a particular product or function without broader context (e.g. review of a particular meal without description of the restaurant as a whole) do not count as significant sources. - it's on the same page that you cited, and in the two reviews you linked there was at the very most one or two sentences about the company mentioning little other than the company's name or location. As mentioned earlier these sources are also self-published blogs which do not qualify as WP:RS. Additionally I was not threatening a block in any way, I was just adding a reminder that conflicts of interest must be declared as it seemed that you had some relationship to the subject you are writing about, and I apologize if it came off as a threat. Regards, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:09, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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How would you no if the is insufficient context in a artical if you are unfammilair with the subject? not passing the Dig Down Concept / Alan B Christ for this reason is just bad editing by pepole that have no knowledge of the subject matter

                                                     70.190.172.188 (talk) 23:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Alan B Christ

Alan B Christ Your draft was declined because it is not understandable to the average reader. At the time of review Draft:Dig Down Concept / Alan B Christ had no little content on the page that explained the topic or made it accessible to the average encyclopedia reader and consisted of mostly document scans. Please add a proper WP:LEAD section and read Writing better articles before resubmitting. Best, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Goldback article

Hi there Liance!

Thank you for reviewing my submission for article review. I read your critique carefully, and removed all reference to the 'Liberty Block' citations. Frankly, I do not think they were necessary to any part of the article, but included them as redundant source material on top of the existing secondary sources. Several include ABC and NBC news rooms, and the concomitant write ups. I believe that this should now be good enough for a basic starter article. Though of course I will continue to work on it further over time, but this should meet the minimum requirements as I understand them at this stage. Thank you very much. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 01:13, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey Th78blue, thanks for reaching out. Sources need to be independent of the subject to show notability and demonstrate significant coverage. The "KTNV" source is not independent (This segment is paid for by Las Vegas Coin Company is listed at the bottom of the page) meaning it is not a suitable source. KSL looks OK but local news coverage generally do not strongly indicate notability (for example see WP:LOCALCOVERAGE). The subject is not mentioned by name in any other qualifying sources, so WP:GNG is not met. If you find additional sources that are independent, reliable, secondary, and demonstrate significant coverage, you can resubmit the draft and have a reviewer take another look. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:24, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll see what else I can find. I thought the KSL source was good, and I'd consider that regional, not exactly 'local', since it is a dominant station out of the largest city in Utah (Salt Lake) and is referring to use of the Goldback on a statewide basis. That said, how many more would your say are needed beyond that one then? Just so I can see what I can find? Obviously the more the merrier, but a benchmark is always good too. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 01:28, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue I generally abide by WP:THREESOURCES so long as the sources demonstrate significant coverage and are independent of each other. Of course this is not a hard and fast rule and there are cases where two sources are appropriate if they are very in-depth. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Three sounds good. I will see if I can locate two more then. I'd like to keep the primary source as well though so that readers could verify directly from that source, but also add two more secondary sources, if that works? ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 01:34, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Sounds good. No problem with having primary sources in an article to verify information if there are no good secondary substitutes. However do note that primary sources do not contribute to establishing notability, so you will still need to locate two more qualifying, secondary sources. Best of luck! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

That makes sense. I just felt that more information was better, as long as (as you mentioned) it is accompanied by notable and reliable secondary sources. I don't write many new articles. I mostly do work on the typo team, recent changes patrol, and lots of 'gnome-like' work... That said, I would like to do more article creation if I can get the hang of it with some of these smaller ones to start. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 01:38, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue That's good to hear! Article creation is always a bit daunting at first, but once you get the hang of identifying good sources, understanding notability criteria, etc you will have no problem. We all start somewhere :) As always do not hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 01:42, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I just spend a good amount of time on the article. I DID find another source, and removed the paid one that you had flagged as problematic. I have submitted for review again. I think honestly at this stage it should pass basic muster for an article, though I will of course add it to my watchlist and continue to add any other sources too it as they arise (and from more and different regions of course too). ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 03:35, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi again Liance, sorry to pester, and no worries if you just haven't gotten back around to it yet, but I'd love it if you could take another look at my Goldback article for submission. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 14:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue I tend not to review AfC submissions more than once in a row for the sake of fairness and to let a fresh set of eyes have a look in case I missed anything. If you submitted the draft a reviewer should get to it at some point or you could ask at the AfC helpdesk. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:52, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

How do you do that cool "line thing" that you did above to respond to me comment? All I've known to do is colons to indent further and further, but I like the line you're doing! Also, no worries. I am not in any rush and will wait for the next reviewer then. Whenever that is. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 16:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue You can use the {{od}} template and place it ahead of your message. Outdenting is fairly useful for preventing discussions from flying off the page. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 17:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 17:49, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

That didn't include my text. Sorry, I am trying again. NOW I think I got it to work. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 17:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Crypto news sites are often the only sources available

Crypto news sites are among the only sources that exist about crypto games, so it is often impossible to find other sources. Since it is an emerging industry, most of the established news sites are not covering every development in the industry. All sources cited are legitimate journalists that do original reporting for the crypto industry. Please reconsider given the lack of resources to learn about these kinds of games, projects, companies in general. The only sources available on these topics are crypto news sites, in a large amount of cases. All sentences in this article are confirmed by the game and company's own websites and blog posts. If you advise that it would better to cite those instead, please let me know. But I thought it better to cite third parties. Bbpetro20 (talk) 03:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)bbpetro

Bbpetro20 On Wikipedia all articles must meet the notability criteria meaning there must be significant coverage in reliable, independent (unaffiliated), secondary sources, and crypto news sites are not considered reliable per community consensus. Please search for sources that fit these requirements. Unfortunately if your topic is unable to meet these requirements it might not be suitable for inclusion. Hope this helps -Liance^{talk/contribs} 03:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Justinbeibergirly on User talk:Justinbeibergirly (04:00, 20 March 2022)

I am very confused on how to use this website. Ives tried to read messages that were sent to me but it won’t show me them. --Justinbeibergirly (talk) 04:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Justinbeibergirly! I'm Liance, your mentor on Wikipedia. You can view messages other editors send to you at User talk:Justinbeibergirly (also accessible from the menu of links at the top of the page). Please let me know if you have any additional questions. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Stub articles

Why is it that there are so many "stub" articles on the encyclopedia with little to no references and stuff? I am not meaning this question to be confrontational at all, but I am genuinely curious if you could help inform me as to how all of those passed muster and an article like mine (that I believe—albeit with a personal bias of course—is much better and better sourced and written etc.)? Thank you! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 21:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Notability criteria on Wikipedia has changed significantly over the years, and as such there are a large number of stubs and non-notable articles left over from years past that would have been suitable for inclusion back then, but no longer meet guidelines like WP:GNG. Wikipedia is a work in progress so there are always going to be articles that don't conform to guidelines (see WP:WIP and WP:OSE). You are more than welcome to nominate non-notable subjects for deletion with a PROD or AfD provided they really are non-notable and not just lacking in references. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 04:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I was just curious really. I appreciate the response and the relevant links. I am always learning. That is what keeps me coming back! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 04:53, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

...just one more "historical" question then. I don't know if you have been around long enough to gather the answer to this one, but when did that change? c. 2005? c.2010? More recent even? 2015 or 2020? I have not been editing long enough to know myself, but was just curious if you might know. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 04:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Policy on WP constantly evolves since it is based on community consensus, so I'm not sure if there was a specific date where it changed, and was likely a much more gradual shift over the years. I haven't been around long enough or paid enough attention to be aware of when the most drastic changes occurred however so I might not be of much help here unfortunately! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 05:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Memgraph

Hi Liance, thank you for your feedback regarding Memgraph. I've updated the draft with new sources: scientific papers, conference proceedings, etc. I hope that this is now up to Wikipedia standard :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autorko (talk • contribs) 08:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Memgraph

Hi Liance! Thank you for your feedback for Memgraph. I've added reference sources from research papers, conference proceedings, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autorko (talk • contribs) 09:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Advice

Hello,

Can you take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Fusion_Blockchain and maybe leave a comment in the "talk" section with some advice on how to proceed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.193.46.20 (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi 95.193.46.20 - comments were left on the draft regarding where improvements could be made, namely requiring more sources to meet WP:GNG / WP:NCORP (multiple independent, reliable, secondary sources w/ significant coverage). If possible I would identify the WP:THREE best sources for the next reviewer and leave a comment on the draft to let the next reviewer know. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 20:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

New message

Hi Liance, I've added some additional sources hoping to get the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elizabeth_Moore Elizabeth Moore page acceptable to be live. I'm hoping you can take a look. I know there is a backlog, and my hope is to get it approved by the end of week Friday so it can be counted as an accomplishment in our edit-a-thon taking place this week. Thank for your time, Beth Jane Toren 18:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethJaneToren (talk • contribs)

Hi BethJaneToren - given the time sensitive circumstances I have gone ahead and re-reviewed the article. It has been accepted seeing that it meets notability criteria. Best of luck with your edit-a-thon! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 20:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from MCVLTRAIX (06:31, 24 March 2022)

hello, I just wanted to say thank you. being able to edit on wiki is not something i will probably ever do but just knowing I can means so much to me. its the first real change i have seen in over 4 years. thank you thank you thank you I feel alive again --MCVLTRAIX (talk) 06:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi MCVLTRAIX! I'm Liance, your Wikipedia mentor. I am glad you are excited about being able to edit - if you ever have any questions or just want some advice/resources about getting started here, do not hesitate to reach out. Best, -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Vercel Article Decline

Hi User:Liance: Thank you for reviewing the submitted Vercel article. I just have one question. It looks like the article is still in the draft space. Will it remain there so that I might work on improvements? I know that a draft article will be deleted after six months of no activity. Thank you and best, LeepKendall (talk) 17:23, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi LeepKendall - articles in the draft space are unpublished, but as long as you make any edit (minor or major) every six months it will stay there, and you are free to spend as long as you wish to improve it. In the case that the draft does get deleted, that is usually not a big problem as you can reach out to an administrator to get it restored. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 19:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you User:Liance. Yes, it looked like it was still availble in the draft space for future improvements. I just wanted to confirm. Thanks much for your reply. Best LeepKendall (talk) 20:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

"TDEE" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect TDEE and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 25#TDEE until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. — Mhawk10 (talk) 05:02, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

"Start point" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Start point and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 25#Start point until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. — Mhawk10 (talk) 05:07, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your review!

	Awesome Draft Reviewer
	Stay awesome :) FlantasyFlan (talk) 18:50, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you :) -Liance^{talk/contribs} 23:52, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

You are highly welcome. Benedict Maluil Akok (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

List of google easter egg's edits

You made multiple large edits without giving an edit summary, please remember to give an edit summary unless you are making a minor edit. Idontknowwhattouseasmyusername300 (talk) 12:58, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Could you point out which edits you're referring to? Checking the edit history I added an edit summary for every major edit with content addition, I didn't add summaries only for minor edits where an additional ref was added or formatting was changed. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!!!

		The Original Barnstar
		A Barnstar for being one of the best reviewers!

- Free Barnstar from OGxSLAY3R!

Thanks! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 04:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Revised - 90s Art School page

Thanks for your feedback Liance. The entry has been updated based upon your input. Additional reliable sources added. Liz Marks (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Home Service99 on User:Home Service99 (17:56, 4 April 2022)

I want to delete this message --Home Service99 (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Helloheart (00:28, 8 April 2022)

Hello! What pages need creating? --Helloheart (talk) 00:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Helloheart! I am Liance, your Wikipedia mentor. What subjects are you most interested in? We have many WikiProjects, so if you find one about a topic you are interested in or know a lot about that would be a good place to start! -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Request for Review

Hi Liance, Previously you have rejected my article on Akshita Mudgal. That was my first submission and I was not sure on all the changes I could make. I added some citations and references and resubmitted it. I am not sure if I resubmit an article it will go back to your bucket. Please review my article and help me if any improvements are needed in it — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEditor0809 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

WikiEditor0809 If you resubmit the article using the blue "Resubmit" button at the top, then another reviewer will review it soon and provide you with feedback. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Ludovico Technique

Hello Liance! Recently you reviewed my draft for the band Ludovico Technique. I have added several new sources addressing the issue of notability you had brought up. Specifically, the band has released three releases (2 full lengths and an EP) on Metropolis Records , a significant indie that has operated for 30 years and represents many notable artists (meets WP:BAND #5) and have documented evidence of having toured (meets WP:BAND #4). Additionally, an appearance on the German Alternative Charts (DAC) should meet WP:BAND #2. Is it possible for you to take another peek? Thank you so much!! CorinneWestbrook (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

References

Hi CorinneWestbrook - you can resubmit the draft for review using the blue "Resubmit" button at the top of your draft and a reviewer will look it over soon. I do not re-review draft articles for the sake of fairness so a fresh set of eyes can provide a second opinion. If possible I would leave a note with this information at the top of the draft as well. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 00:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok thank you so much! :) I had done all of that last month :) Either way, I appreciate your time!! CorinneWestbrook (talk) 11:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Iceland: Beyond Sigur Rós

Hi Liance,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article, It is a film I really like that we watched in class for study. I am just wondering what else is needed for it to meet the criteria, it has an IMBD and a production website.

Any help would be appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clarkeofsalford (talk • contribs) 07:55, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey Clarkeofsalford - Articles on Wikipedia need to meet notability criteria in order to be included. This means having references that show significant coverage in secondary independent sources - you can refer to WP:NFILM for more info. If the film meets any criteria at WP:NFO there is a good chance it is notable. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:01, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Nora bonaccorso on User:Nora bonaccorso (15:34, 13 April 2022)

Hello, how do i delete my account --Nora bonaccorso (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Nora bonaccorso - unfortunately it is not possible to completely delete a Wikipedia account as all edits need to be attributed. You can request pages you created be deleted, or see WP:DELETEACC for more options. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 05:59, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you; specific questions on specific issues cited?

Hello,

First of all, thank you for the prompt review of this page: [[1]]

Apologies in advance for asking questions that might be answered elsewhere. I have actually looked through many help articles and tried to assimilate information as best as possible, however, it seems there are some specific issues that exist that need to be fixed.

There are no specific flags in the draft article submitted, that I am able to locate, that indicate what the specific problems are that need to be fixed.

Can you provide detail on the specific issues that caused the article to be rejected? Without specific issues highlighted, it becomes a guessing game as to what/how to fix them. I would like to make the adjustments and resubmit the article, which, hopefully, would be the first of several on newer manufacturing, supply chain, and IIoT technologies.

Thank you very much in advance, respectfully yours,

--Viobeatty (talk) 16:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Viobeatty

Hi Viobeatty - articles on Wikipedia must be written with a neutral point of view in order to be included. This means language should objectively describe the subject of the article. Draft:Decisyon had some issues with this, such as, for example, Decisyon Digital Factory is positioned as a "turnkey" solution for manufacturers which is a bit promotional in tone. External links should also be removed from the body of the article. Lastly please review WP:NCORP before resubmitting to ensure your draft meets the notability criteria. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

sup bro, hope you are doing good, i got a question about the reach free school article

hello, just got a question so that i can improve my article; what sources were not good to be used in the reach free school article? so far, after reading more about independent sources, i think that these sources i used need to change: 2,3,7,?10? is there any else that were not reliable enough, or that were not notable enough? i'm quite new to this. thanks in advance if you respond bro. SPPoonsQwert (talk) 16:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)sPPoonsQwert

SPPoonsQwert Articles on most educational institutions must meet the criteria at WP:NSCHOOL which I commented on your draft. Specifically you need additional significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent to demonstrate the draft is notable enough for inclusion. I would recommend picking the WP:THREE sources that best fit the criteria and then note them on your draft. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 04:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Goldback

Hi again Liance! I just wanted to see if you know of any way to "bump" my draft submission that you reviewed and declined the first time around. I think it has enough RS'es now for approval, but I don't want to step out of bounds or out of line, but I was also hoping to see if there was any way to have some visibility into the approval process as to when it may (or may not) be approved into the main space. Thank you! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 17:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Th78blue Unfortunately a vast majority of AfC reviewers do not perform reviews on request and there are no real ways to "bump" a submission (which some editors might see as gaming the system), so you just have to sit tight for now. One suggestion I have is locating a WikiProject relevant to your draft subject and asking someone with lots of expertise in the area to check it over and make sure it looks good to prevent another decline. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 04:02, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Certainly no intention to "game the system", thank you for the information. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 12:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Clarification about article creation criteria

Hi Liance,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article and for contributing to Wikipedia in general. (I also think your Equality for All userbox is really cool.) I was wondering if you could give me more details about article creation criteria. I saw that you denied my article because of WP:LOCALCOVERAGE, and when I read this it said that local sources are considered less significant, but I was wondering if the local independent secondary sources could be considered in combination with the one national independent secondary source as part of the "multiple" count, and if the local coverage being from a major city has an effect on this. If not, how many more national sources would you recommend I add before re-nominating my article?

Thank you! JA's New Camera (talk) 05:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi JA's New Camera - articles about organizations on Wikipedia must meet WP:NCORP, which means (generally at least three) secondary, reliable sources that are independent of the subject and demonstrate significant coverage. Aside from the SD News and Del Mar Times sources the references are not suitable, YouTube is also considered an unreliable source. WP:LOCALCOVERAGE states that at least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary so as long as you have one of those it would work. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 05:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. In regards to your comment about YouTube, do you mean that YouTube is always considered unreliable on Wikipedia, or is it possible to provide additional attribution showing that a particular video's source can be considered credible? JA's New Camera (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

JA's New Camera Unless the video is uploaded officially by an organization/credible source, YouTube is considered unreliable and should not be used if possible (more info at WP:RSPYT). Using YouTube as a source is acceptable at best but should be avoided if a substitute can be located. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 05:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

In my situation, there are sadly no other sources for the information I am citing. Is there any way for me to provide supplementary information to verify the reliability of the channel that posted the video I'm citing? JA's New Camera (talk) 06:13, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

You can cite the media/source directly without linking to a potentially copyright-violating YouTube video if the original source is reliable. Templates like {{cite episode}} or {{cite AV media}} could work. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

The video was originally posted on YouTube, the channel is run by the executive director of the foundation that administers the competition that the video is about. I was just wondering if there were some way for me to cross-reference the video to show that it's reliable. JA's New Camera (talk) 06:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm not terribly certain if there's an elegant or correct way to do that. I would just cite the YouTube video as you would with any web source and note the publisher is the organization you are referring to if there are absolutely no alternatives to the YT vid. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:34, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that actually the SD News source would not be considered independent because it is an interview with individuals related to the subject, so it would not count toward notability. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 05:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your guidance! JA's New Camera (talk) 07:16, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

JoJo's Pitter Patter Pop Article Creation

Hi there. I noticed you declined my submission for the creation of the JoJo's Pitter Patter Pop article. Could you please provide some ways I could improve the article to increase its 'acticleness'. Thanks :) FishandChipper (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi FishandChipper - I commented on Draft:JoJo's Pitter Patter Pop! that the draft did not meet WP:NGAME (notability for video games). On Wikipedia all articles must meet notability criteria, which is significant coverage in independent, secondary, reliable sources. Twitter should not be cited as it is not a secondary source. Otherwise, the draft cites two sources which only cover the game's announcement and shutdown, which is not enough to establish significant coverage of the game. Please add more references to demonstrate notability. Hope this helps. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 15:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for this feedback. This is my first article so Im pretty new to this. FishandChipper (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Regarding an AfC comment

[2] - YouTube is not a source at all. It’s a publishing platform. The level of reliability comes from whoever uploaded it. SK2242 (talk) 19:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:RSPYT YouTube is, in almost all cases, not considered a reliable source which is why I state it's an unreliable source if it is cited as one by a draft author. Although it can be considered a reliable source if a news org, etc uploads it, that was not the case for the review in question. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 16:17, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Moses Brian on User:Moses Brian (14:04, 19 May 2022)

Hello good evening. Could you please help me on how to publish my reports here. Thanks --Moses Brian (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Moses Brian, welcome to Wikipedia. Articles on Wikipedia must meet specific notability criteria. Assuming you are referring to your user page, autobiographies are highly discouraged due to the unavoidable bias they cause. You can take a look at Help:Your first article for more information. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 20:30, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for review & approval of Wikipedia Page/Article

Hi Liance, please I need help with my article page with review and approval it has been 6 months now. I will appreciate any feedback. warm regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Nyiam (talk • contribs) 12:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC) George Nyiam (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from DetectiveTheBand (13:36, 21 May 2022)

Hello. I would like to add a website link to Detective, a band, as well as for Jon Hyde, the drummer in Detective. I just created an account under DetectiveThe Band, but I can't figure out how to add the band's website to the Wikipedia entries. Can you help me? --DetectiveTheBand (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Re-submission

Since I was not the original author, I might not be the right person to re-submit Draft:exaly; but I believe the latest version meets your expectation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MojoDiJi (talk • contribs) 23:21, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Request on 20:06:24, 27 May 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Karupatti

• Karupatti (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Lingesh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I've edited it, added citations, backed it up with resources, and submitted it again. Since then, it has just been there. Hasn't been approved or declined. As time goes by, I feel like I did it wrong or missed something. Can you please check? Am kinda clueless right now and need help to understand what I need to do to get it accepted. Can you please help? Karupatti (talk) 20:37, 27 May 2022 (UTC) Karupatti (talk) 20:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Liance, thanks for taking the time to review the dot big bang draft. I've addressed the notability concerns that led to the draft being declined, and added more detailed citations for recent press coverage from 3D World magazine (a cover feature), a gamedeveloper.com in-depth interview, Dexerto news on dot big bang, and quotes about labor issues from staff members in The Washington Post. I hope this helps the new draft to meet the notability guidelines. I will be maintaining the page and adding more media citations as they come in. Johniceland (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Girls Academy League

Please review draft page for “Girls Academy League” again. Your feedback was addressed. The Draft page was resubmitted for approval almost 4 months ago and no action has been taken. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chicagosoccerdad (talk • contribs) 04:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of PlanetSide 2

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article PlanetSide 2 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 00:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of PlanetSide 2

The article PlanetSide 2 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:PlanetSide 2 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 14:21, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Vaneciamay (09:59, 28 June 2022)

Hi I need help with my srd sassa relief funds are declined I would like to now the reason why? I was declined please help --Vaneciamay (talk) 09:59, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Vaneciamay on User:Vaneciamay (10:54, 28 June 2022)

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Question from Ahmad Raza 07 (02:47, 1 July 2022)

Did I get money after editing. --Ahmad Raza 07 (talk) 02:47, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

IoTeX PR Director

Hi Liance, I hope you are well.

I'd like to establish contact with you to try and understand how we can get the IoTeX Wikipedia page published. Let me be very frank. I joined in late November. Various attempts by malicious actors were made. We had nothing to do with those attempts. We believe a competitor tried to get us blacklisted. But I have no proof so I will not dive further into that conversation. We ourselves have tried to get the page published on various occasiones but we understand we did not meet the notability criteria. When we did, we still got rejected for "other reasons" including COI. Desperate because it was difficult to undestand why we were facing issues, we sought "professional" help but firstly got ripped off by scammers and then were advised by not so professional people.

We are now at the point where we are wary of doing anything. We simply want a 100% objective IoTeX article published. We have no intentions of promoting ourselves in any way, shape or form. We simply want our growing community to have a global forum where they can find basic, simple, non-promotional information about our project.

That being said, is there anyway you can guide me through the process of publication? Is it completely wrong for IoTeX to try and get themselves on Wikipedia? Is it true that we have been "blacklisted"?

Please, help me with this issue.

Cheers and regards,

Ollie4545 Ollie4545 (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mahamed Mahamud islan (06:07, 11 July 2022)

How can I publish my background history --Mahamed Mahamud islan (talk) 06:07, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IoTeX

Hi Liance, I made changes to the IoTeX draft hoping we now fit the requirements for the page to be published. I await your response.

Cheers and regards, Ollie4545 (talk) 20:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Question from AetherKiller (18:47, 20 July 2022)

Hey, I was wondering if there's an easier way to insert "citation needed" than going to the source editor and inserting it there. Thanks a ton :) --AetherKiller (talk) 18:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding User:Timothyplaya/sandbox

Hello, Liance. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:Timothyplaya/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of PlanetSide 2

The article PlanetSide 2 you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:PlanetSide 2 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Article submission on Lightbox (India)

Reason given was that it read more like a promo piece, but if you read, its just to add another player to the list of other Venture Capital firms in the directory. Would appreciate assistance on how this feels like a promo piece. Sources given as quite neutral and reputed as well.

Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lightbox_(India)

Help would be appreciated. Thanks Mattroger (talk) 07:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Grand Basin

Hello Liance, new to Wikipedia - thanks for getting a look at the page I created. I'll beef it up with more sources and link to more existing articles on Wikipedia to better contextualize the importance of getting this page published. I'm really new to the process and really want to improve the quality of the page - how many citations would you recommend? Also, formatting is kinda tough to understand - are the any issues with that currently? M3d6f5 (talk) 16:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Hey M3d6f5! You are off to a great start - I would just make sure to review WP:GNG to make sure the subject you are writing about is notable enough for inclusion, which is a requirement for all articles in the encyclopedia. I would also make sure that you cite more reliable sources as all stated facts should be backed up with an inline citation so that they can be verified. If you have any additional questions don't hesitate to reach out. Liance (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Oh definitely - thank you for linking the GNG page. Feel like this definitely qualifies for page creations given how much exists out there about the topic and related components. There's just so much tied to the location, I'm surprised this doesn't exists already! Lot's of pages with much less information and cross references. M3d6f5 (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Source reliability

Hey Liance! Thank you for your note. I think you are mistaken about what makes a source reliable. The source I provided for my edit was a direct source, the most reliable of sources. That's not to say one way or another weather their claim is reliable, just that they are the source of the claim. Had the source been a 3rd party making a claim on someone else's behalf, then it would not be a reliable source. There are only two direct sources that are possible for that particular edit, the person making the claim and the person who the claim is about. The content that was added was neutral, it took neither side and was merely to provide information about a claim that has been made. As the claim is not baseless and does provide verifiable evidence to support the claim, it is a notable part of The Egg's history and should be included in the article. Had the edit been one sided or presented the claim as verified fact you would have a point. But because the information is about the claim, the only reliable source to state as such are the two people directly involved in the claim. It is not our job to act as the public relations team of either party, we are merely to present the facts. Unless it is in fact your job to act as a public relations representative, in which case your edit is unethical and against Wikipedia's TOS. But I'm assuming that is not the case and that you were merely mistaken about when a source is appropriate. I'll give you a could days to have the opportunity to respond before reversing the edit back to include the fact that a plagiarism claim has been made. 205.144.221.118 (talk) 23:47, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Labour Party Rules

Thanks for your helpful message on the reasons for non-promotion. It's made me wonder if what I want to do can and should be done. It's surprisingly difficult to find independent sources on the Rulebook as opposed to the politics behind the changes, which rightly belong in the history page. DaveLevy (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:Timothyplaya/sandbox

Hello, Liance. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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