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Please do not split another persons comment, add your comment after theirs. Thanks, Nableezy (talk) 23:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

OK, I'll try - in current Wiki format sometimes It's hard to find whom one replies. - Igorp lj (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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{{adminhelp}} As I remember I'd registrated with ' igorp_lj' login name. Why is it really converted to ' Igorp lj ' one consisting of two parts an who may help me to rerun to my choice?
Thank you. - Igorp lj (talk)

You'll notice in your address bar that this page is shown as "User_talk:Igorp_lj" - when you registered your account, Mediawiki interpreted the underscore as a space, because that's how it handles them from URLs. When you log in, it shouldn't make any difference if you add the underscore or not. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

{{adminhelp}} What one can do to let my name be seen according to my choice - 'igorp_lj' in all Wiki's places ? - Igorp lj (talk) 23:00, 16 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Not an admin, but what you can do is change your signature so that it shows up as you want it. Click on the "my preferences" link at the top right of the screen and in the user profile tab write igorp_lj in the text box for Signature. Do not check the box below. Click save and from now on whenever you sign it will show igorp_lj as your name. It wont change the address though. nableezy - 23:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thank you!!! It appears that good news just from you were waiting me while I spent time at ru.wiki. Thanks again and I'll be glad to discuss any topic with you besides of possible difference in our points. - Igorp_lj (talk) 22:54, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

revert

Please note this purely technical revert, I hope it's ok. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 17:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I do not see it as tech. one. Please either explain your change or revert it back.
Any way, I do not know about any Martians living near Itamar. What about you? --Igorp_lj (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Take a look at this diff - you've removed the opening brackets "{{" of "Otheruses" template. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 17:44, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply
Oops & sorry, --Igorp_lj (talk) 17:56, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

A beer for you!

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Thanks & the same for you too ! (not only here) --Igorp_lj (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Problem with Wikipedia:Emailing users

In Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2014 April 11#Problem with Wikipedia:Emailing users you didn't mention you mail provder but if it's Yahoo then you are probably hit by the problem at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 125#Wikipedia email not working when I send but works when others send to me. It's also mentioned at DMARC#History. We may have to update our email help pages. Some mail providers still allow Yahoo mail from other servers than Yahoo's own. My Danish mail provider may be one of them. My advice is still to try another mail provider, especially if you have Yahoo. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes I do, I use Yahoo. I have to think how to arrange this passing. May be I'll try to make test pass to other email provider before.
Thank you for this info. --Igorp_lj (talk) 13:10, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
(at the moment) - Problems with Wikipedia email? answers.yahoo.com (Nihiltres) --Igorp_lj (talk) 22:09, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Rabin Pre-Military Academy

In Rabin Pre-Military Academy#References, I'm removing your remark embedded in the citation of a Jerusalem Post article of March 19, 2009:

That was what Zamir wrote in 1990, reprinted in 2004. The testimonies of the soldiers that he brought to the public's attention seem to corroborate - what a coincidence - his thesis.

This sort of personal commentary doesn't belong on the mainspace page. You might consider adding it to the article's Talk page; I leave that to you. -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:48, 31 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the notification. I do think that article author's opinion should be in the article, and there is no place here for your "This sort of personal commentary", but let's continue at the article's Talk page. --Igorp_lj (talk) 13:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

WP:AE misrepresentation/exaggeration on Hebrew/Israeli quotes and comparison between Arab-Israeli matters and the holocaust

Igorp lj, I promised to notify you. Though there was no direct reply on my querry,[1] two AE executives is enough input for me. See block-log update. According to this, it is appears preferable that future allusions should be ignored. MarciulionisHOF (talk) 06:08, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

RfC United States same-sex marriage map

I opened up an RfC for the U.S. same-sex marriage map due to the complicated situation of Kansas: RfC: How should we color Kansas? Prcc27 (talk) 12:14, 12 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

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I'd ask you to withdraw these your WP:ARBPIA alerts. --Igorp_lj (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2015

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With respect to the ARBPIA alert, as the template says, it "is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date." — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:50, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

+ not short discussion in subtopic at User talk:Malik Shabazz/Archive 51#WP:ARBPIA alerts ?
+ continued in Talk:Palestine#Definition of the term "sovereign state" (moved to Archive_13) by Laurel Lodged, 9 March 2015
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Hi Igorp, thanks for your message. I have moved it to Talk:Palestine so that others can contribute. Oncenawhile (talk) 07:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Talkback Malik Shabazz, 29 April 2015

{{talkback|Malik Shabazz|Your revert (Gaza strip)|ts=02:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)}}

See == revert (Gaza strip)

I wasn't talking about any consensus for Nishidani's "nonsense" (in your words). So I'd suggest you to read a Talk:Gaza Strip#Seib topic before your so fast revert. --Igorp_lj (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Your classification of people into two camps—those who compare the Gaza Strip to a concentration camp and therefore must be pathological "critics of Israel and left-wing / pro-Palestinian activists" and those who reject the comparison and can be left undescribed—violates both WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. I did read that section of the Talk page and, as I wrote, there was no consensus for your nonsense. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Are you meaning that Lauren Booth, Giorgio Agamben aren't "critics of Israel and left-wing / pro-Palestinian activists"? IMHO, if someone may find an information about activism of "those who reject the comparison" it may be added as well.
Any way, there is no consensus for your edition as well, it isn't attributed, their RS are grouped confusedly, etc. So I'd invited you to take a part at the Talk page to discuss the arguments against it. --Igorp_lj (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Igorp. Could you look into the Binjamin Infantry Brigade? I can't see it listed in Israeli brigades but it is called thus on Haaretz's report concerning the al-Kasbah incident today. If it's a bother, forget it. Thanks Nishidani (talk) 17:30, 3 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

It should be named either Binyamin Region Brigade as at Arutz 7, or Binyamin (Regional) Brigade as at JPost. I have no idea why Haaretz has called it just as Binyamin infantry brigade. I'll check Hebrew sources later. --Igorp_lj (talk) 20:40, 3 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
Another var: Binyamin Territorial Brigade (Judea and Samaria Division)
see אוגדת אזור יהודה ושומרון / חטיבת בנימין - באזור רמאללה ויריחו - מח"ט: אל"מ ישראל שומר
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Sabra & Shatilla survey

Thanks for adding your view there- You should add your signature to the comments you provided. All Rows4 (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks &   Done --Igorp_lj (talk) 19:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

FAQ

(reply to my "Talk:Mandatory Palestine/FAQ: Transjordan": I've returned "Response by DaoXan" & Zero's reply to the page to let know to a reader about other POV. Can you please explain your "moving to main talk page - this is an FAQ, and should be discussed on the main talk page" deletion's description  ? Regards, --Igorp_lj (talk) 22:04, 6 July 2015")

...Sure, his comments were almost impossible to understand, poorly structured and poorly sourced. The FAQ should not be a discussion, but a consensual position reflecting the views of the editors who are discussing at the talk page. See the banner I added, which explains it. Oncenawhile (talk) 22:11, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

And as it turns out, when his response was pasted into the main talk page, it was disagreed with universally. Oncenawhile (talk) 22:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
The template banner says "These FAQ answers reflect the decisions found in the talk page archives. Please feel free to change them in light of new discussion."
Which means that the discussion should be had at the main talk page itself.
Oncenawhile (talk) 22:20, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • "his response was pasted into the main talk page"; "decisions found in the talk page archives"...{{where}} - ??
P.S. Let's continue at one - either my or your User_talk, where I've already written my questions along with leaving FYI at DaoXan page. --Igorp_lj (talk) 22:32, 6 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Removed your precious ITIC garbage addition (@The kyle 3)

Considering that the article in question is about Israeli strikes and Palestinian casualties during last year's attack on the Gaza Strip by Israel, and not about the whiny piddling and excuse-making of pro-Israel and IDF-apologist "think tanks" trying to defend a 65-70% civilian death rate through lying.

I see that you exhibit a lot of the worst traits of the obnoxiously pro-Israel Wikipedia editor-- for example your wailing over the single Israeli child killed last summer while shamelessly ignoring the 400-500 children killed by Israel. Even more rationale for me to revert your "additions". The kyle 3 (talk) 17:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

@The kyle 3: explain what are you talking about in the message. Maybe it'll be news to you, but the pro-Israeli (as well as pro-Arab, etc,) editor - isn't a curse word. IMHO, much more important is to bring and to use correct & reliable information. That's what I haven't found in this your "whiny piddling" message.
So when you'll be able to formulate your charges specifically, basing on relevant RS & diffs - wellcome. But not before :) --Igorp_lj (talk) 18:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

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You are discussing in the wrong place. You want Skunk_(weapon), not Skunk. Kingsindian  14:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Poll on Peace Now article

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You reverted my edit on Peace Now. A poll is a primary source. Wikipedia is based on secondary sources. Do you have any media articles that report on this poll? Otherwise it's not a valid source... --Perplexed566 (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'll check.
At the moment: it seems to me that this poll is more RS and closely concerns to "Peace Now and the Second Intifada (2000–2005)" section than the following PR about its own success from Peace Now itself & its allies:

Despite the arguable decline in the Israeli public's support for the Oslo Peace Process, Peace Now succeeded in leading a demonstration of 100,000 people (in May, 2002) for the purposes of pressuring the government to withdraw from all Palestinian territories.[23] (According to "Peace Now" itself) Shortly after the outbreak of the Second Intifada, Peace Now was instrumental in creating the Israeli Peace Coalition, which later evolved into the Israeli-Palestine Peace Coalition.[1] Its main objective is to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands, and to achieve a just, lasting and comprehensive peace based on a two-state solution.[24]

Let's clarify & continue at Talk:Peace Now. --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

FYI

WP:ARBPIA3 is now open and evidence can be submitted until September 8. 62.90.5.221 (talk) 09:09, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

BBC or MFA

It seems to have been discussed years ago so there was a consensus.

If you actually want to make a change, you should focus on the new case at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 3/Evidence. Settleman (talk) 18:31, 3 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I'm still trying to understand what are the changed 'Scope of evidence'.
As I see it's worth to read already moved numerous 'Preliminary statements' too. --Igorp_lj (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Palestine-Israel articles 3/Evidence

Please rewrite your evidence so that it is more general and not focussed on any specific editor. I've already made it clear to another editor that they need to do this and if they don't it will be done by someone else. There are no parties to this case. We are interested in the general issues and although hopefully we can revise the existing remedies to improve the area, we won't be sanctioning any editors. Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 17:54, 8 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

@Doug Weller: I am not sure that other evidences do prove that "there are no parties to this case", but I'll try to correct my text, so it'll describe a situation without specifying therein the names of specific editors.
Do I understand right that your ask doesn't mean removing the links to examples themselves, or ..? --Igorp_lj (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
(before receiving your answer)   Done [2] --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Regarding..

...my welcome of Settleman: yes, I would say that was absolutely correct in this case. Have you looked at his first edits? His *very* first edit was the creation of a new article! ..In a very controversial area, no less. Now, how many new editors do that?

And I´m answering your question here, as I don´t want to "clutter" arb.com evidence page, with things that *really* don´t belong there, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 00:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Huldra, sorry, I'll reply you later, afer my return to Internet. --Igorp_lj (talk) 14:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
See my As I know it wasn't your 1st such "greeting". The rest - see my opinion above. --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:50, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

messages to other users

You are not entitled to continually return material to another user's personal pages. On the contrary, he is entitled to remove them, see WP:REMOVED. Even more, continually returning deleted messages is harrassment, see WP:HUSH. Zerotalk 01:00, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, it appears that there is only "although archiving is preferred" recommendation in e-Wiki. In ru-wiki such demand is tougher.
If so - ok. I'll move my message from his Talk to my one. --Igorp_lj (talk) 14:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

(moved from Pluto2012/archive1)

== Caution: AGF & EQ ==

Hi, you seem to have broke wp:AGF & wp:EQ here: "Paid editing ; former editing on wp". I'd suggest you apologize to S. and disavow your provocative questions. --Igorp_lj (talk) 09:58, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Returned after removing by Pluto2012. --Igorp_lj (talk) 10:24, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, but I have to return it again. See also: AGF, EQ, removing a Caution from a Talk page --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:58, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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Removing material from own talk page

Re this: per the guidelines, one is fully entitled to remove most kinds of material from their own talk page. You certainly do not "have" to restore a comment once it has been removed by the owner, they certainly have read it and apparently decided not to reply. Do feel free to remove this comment :) WarKosign 10:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

WarKosign, thank you & see topic above. --Igorp_lj (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
У каждего монастыря свой устав. Я бы на вашем месте извинился, что-бы это недоразумение не раздули. WarKosign 17:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

DRN for Duma

Here . Settleman (talk) 06:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
(=> Archive #124: Duma arson attack#Ya'alon on Jewish extremists --Igorp_lj (talk))

Ok. Rather after Hatima tova (!)
Btw: it's worth while to move the same message from there to here (pls wiki-mail me to let me sent you such minor notes). --Igorp_lj (talk) 09:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
  Comment: Please go to the link above and provide a concise, specific summary of the dispute. --JustBerry (talk) 03:21, 23 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
@JustBerry: Thank you for reminder. I've already began to prepare it, hoping to leave my summary either today or tomorrow. --Igorp_lj (talk) 21:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
Sounds like a plan. --JustBerry (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
:) => [3]. Sorry, I'll have only mobile phone in a next 4 days. --Igorp_lj (talk) 09:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hello

Hi there. Just wanted to drop you a line and say good work on the list of violent incidents page. I know from personal experience how hard it is with all the incessant harassment and subtle source falsification. If you happen to see obvious distortion of sources, please let me know on my talk page (I mean really obvious stuff, like turning "some" into "most" or "black" into "white", stuff that can't be argued about). No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 22:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

@No More Mr Nice Guy: Hi here too. 1. Ok.
2. Regardinhg to these Lists: I have another proposal:)
--Igorp_lj (talk) 23:51, 11 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that article is completely ridiculous and useless. But I'm glad to see someone has the patience to look after it. Nishidani couldn't write an NPOV article if his life depended on it. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 00:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
here's a source with video of a Palestinian man deliberately driving over some Israeli civilians, then getting out of his car and chopping people up with a cleaver. Might be useful for that ridiculous list. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 15:02, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thanks + צפו: הפיגוע הבוקר במלכי ישראל מתחילתו ועל חיסול המחבל (זווית שלא פורסמה, ממצלמת האבטחה) enlarged, + here: Security footage of Malchei Yisrael attack --Igorp_lj (talk) 19:44, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
I think the ynet one can actually be used in articles since it comes from a reliable source. You know what the BBC headline would be for this incident? "Palestinian man wounded by Israelis during car attack and stabbing". No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 19:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Yes: :( Why the BBC is biased against Israel --Igorp_lj (talk) 23:40, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. There have been more over the last few days. Interesting stuff, I don't know if I agree with this guy's reasoning, though. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 00:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Did you see the one with the 13 year old who's father said he was out to buy CDs (or wood for his steam engine?). Apparently to get a CD you must stab some Jews. See here. Also good for the ridiculous list. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

@No More Mr Nice Guy: Thank you, I've seen it and I'm going to check how it is presented in the List.
I was out of wiki a ~couple of weeks, and currently I can visit wiki only sporadically, but I've already tried to add a bit of common sense in what some editors do, e.g., in the same List. Nevertheless, if you see something interesting, pls send me a mail and I'll try to find a time to do something. --Igorp_lj (talk) 10:31, 29 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Will do. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 17:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Can you please add in 2018_Gaza_border_protests some of the arson attacks since the 25'th June until today ?159.253.248.234 (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Could you request to add the 28'th and 29'th of May events please  ?

May 28:

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Report-One-wounded-one-killed-in-IDF-artillery-fire-toward-Gaza-Strip-558562

May 29:

https://www.kan.org.il/item/?itemId=31819 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/world/middleeast/gaza-israel-mortars.html

Request to edit by IPs are removed and ignored.5.144.49.8 (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Terrorism-info.org.il

Hello Igorp lj,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Terrorism-info.org.il for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

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Here is my reply there "because... it simply points to the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center page" --Igorp_lj (talk) 14:41, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
You cannot have Urls as redirects. AmericanAir88 (talk) 15:13, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
If Rules do not allow such title even as reDirect, so ... as I see, Dlohcierekim has already erased it. --Igorp_lj (talk) 15:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

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