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Your Sonic images

Please stop uploading these to wikipedia, these images taken from a camera show them on a TV screen, and they all appear unprofessional, I have removed them as all of the other images are "clean," taken from PC versions or emulators. Not to mention we already have plenty of images and don't need to go past Fair Use, if not already. 阿修羅96 01:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Please raise your concerns about image quality with this user in a more CIVIL manner. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 01:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

YA HAPPY NOW? (Just kidding, hopefully that's it.) 阿修羅96 01:20, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Responded on your talk. Hasek..., please respond to the substance of the user's comment. Newyorkbrad 01:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

You guys know each other well? 阿修羅96 01:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Not really, but I posted on this page once before, and I have my preferences set to watchlist any page I edit, so I noticed your original section heading in the edit summary. Newyorkbrad 01:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much!

Hasek, you are the best! Thanks for helping me fight the vandals of Shaq's Big Challenge! Best wishes to you and the rest of your editing. --JDitto 03:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

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WikiProject Ice Hockey August 2007 Newsletter

WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter Dear Hasek is the best/Archive2007c)! You are receiving this newsletter because you have signed up as a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. The purpose of this newsletter is to update on the goings on of the project, as there have been major changes, and a lot of new recognized content in the past few weeks. If you are an inactive user, you probably won't recognize the new and improved state of the WikiProject! From the project, Maxim. New recognized content By Maxim There have been a lot more Good and Featured articles written in the past few weeks. Here is a list: Featured articles Wayne Gretzky — Promoted on 2006-02-14; on Main Page on 2006-06-13 New Jersey Devils — Promoted on 2006-11-20; on Main Page on 2007-06-30 Martin Brodeur — Promoted on 2007-04-28 Fighting in ice hockey — Promoted on 2007-05-07; on Main Page on 2007-07-19 Dominik Hasek — Promoted on 2007-05-25 Good articles Calgary Hitmen Colorado Avalanche National Hockey League Joe Sakic Nottingham Panthers Stanley Cup Traditions and anecdotes associated with the Stanley Cup Ray Emery The French Connection (hockey) Featured lists List of ice hockey teams in Alberta List of ice hockey teams in Saskatchewan Frölunda HC seasons List of Colorado Avalanche players List of family relations in the National Hockey League List of New Jersey Devils players List of New Jersey Devils head coaches List of drafted Frölunda HC players Notes Article Improvement By Maxim Upon some discussion on the WikiProject talk page, the Article Improvement Drive page was revamped by Krm500 and Maxim. It was renamed Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Article Improvement, and it includes two section. The first section is called articles in dire need of improvement. It list articles, usually important, that are in very poor shape. The second section is called requested help. Users list an article they request help improving a certain article, which will facilitate collaboration, which is the aim of any WikiProject. There is one article currently listed there, Henrik Lundqvist, here. The goal is to at least get it to Good article status. Diacritics By Maxim In the past few weeks, there has been quite heated discussion about the use of diacritics in article name. The current guideline is using diacritics in the pages of articles of all player names which require them, but redirects are exempt. Task forces By Maxim There have been two new task forces started within the WikiProject to coordinate major topics. Sweden Ice Hockey task force This task force was initiated by Krm500. Its current goal is to improve Henrik Lundqvist to Good or Featured article status. It covers all Swedish clubs, leagues and competitions and associated articles, players and coaches that are Swedish, or have played/coached for a Swedish club, and arenas in Sweden. They plan to eventually operate as a sort of a sub-project, which will have its own articles for creation, ranking importance and quality of articles, and co-ordinate article improvement. Its current members are Krm500, Bamsefar75, and CLAES. New Jersey Devils task force This task force was initiated by Bsroiaadn. Its goal is to improve New Jersey Devils to Featured Topic status. Although it currently meets the required article count, the task force wishes to improve it further. Its area of coverage is very similar to the Sweden Ice Hockey task force. Its members are Bsroiaadn, JHMM13, FutureNJGov, Sportskido8, Michael Greiner, JRWalko, and Soxrock. Requested Images By Maxim After discussion on the WikiProject talk page, Serte created a page for Requested Images. The page encourages users to license images for use on articles. The page also has section to request images for players, arenas, game situations, miscellaneous, and team and league logos. The page has been quite popular; since it was created on July 21, there have been six completed requests. There are four currently outstanding requests: Patrik Eliáš — Photo of player, requested by Bsroiaadn Scott Stevens — Photo of player, requested by Bsroiaadn Daniel Alfredsson — Photo of player, requested by Maxim Hart Trophy — Photo of the original Hart Trophy (retired in 1960), requested by Scorpion0422 Article assessement completed By Maxim On July 12, Kaiser matias announced that he had completed assessing all the articles with a {{ice hockey}} tag, sorting them into Category:Unassessed Ice Hockey articles. Kaiser matias has ranked about 9000 articles in that category, and most were stubs, and "have no information at all", according to him. Everybody is encouraged to expand the stubs into real articles. This effort took around 5 months. A big thanks goes to Kaiser matias from me and all the project. Note: You have received this newsletter because you have added your name here. If you wish to no longer receive this newsletter, please remove your name. From the automated Animum Delivery Bot (delivered on 18:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC).

Hasek?

Indeed, Hasek is obviously better than Brodeur, but how about the greatest of all time? :) Jmlk17 03:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello WikiProject Ice Hockey/Participant

I am an advisor to the National Hockey League. With your help over the next few months I plan to review and correct any information on wikipedia relating to the National Hockey League, its franchises, players, executives and partership organisations. I am here to provide you with information. Your work is appreciated. --NHLsource 18:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

My revert

Sorry about that. Clue bot beat me to the article and somehow I didn't get a edit conflict warning. Sorry if I appeared to be that Ip.--Kkrouni/Ккроунл/ΚκρΩυνι 17:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm just getting used to the Firefox layout to use TW, must have clicked revert edits a second after cluebot. I usually read what's been taken off, not the last revert. Well I feel stupid!--Kkrouni/Ккроунл/ΚκρΩυνι 17:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah TW isn't that much better than IE. Accualy it's slower so I've reverted 3 reverts today. I'm going to use IE for another week before I try twinkle again.--Kkrouni/Ккроунл/ΚκρΩυνι 18:01, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: revert in Bleach (Manga)

no worries if you look you'll see that I actually did the same thing. ^_^ --/\sSb\/^TALK/\-- 21:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

redirect

i didn't mean to redirect my user disscusion page to B’Day. that was a mistake on my part. i pasted the redirect there by mistake. it won't happen again.

Dominik Hašek

Dominik Hašek fan? Nice guy, he once signed a puck and card for me. Tony the Marine 01:27, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The Best

Don't know that you're the best, but you are certainly faster than I am today. LOL. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 16:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Test Work?

What test work would that be? —70.240.119.51 14:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Which edit are you referring to? —70.240.119.51 16:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

That was not a test edit; that edit was to stop the page from stretching. —70.240.119.51 16:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It was to stop the page from stretching horizontally, to get rid of the horizontal scrollbar. —70.240.119.51 16:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I put in the full caption. See here. —70.240.119.51 16:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this edit

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3A123.2.168.215&diff=151842784&oldid=151842699

Someone put something on the user page instead of the talk page. I moved it to the talk page. Then you restored it. That's not helpful. If you are an administrator, could you please delete the user page, as it is an IP address shared by many different people, and its not appropriate to have a user page. 123.2.168.215 15:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving the list of "Selected home game consoles" in SNES

I'm guessing you use a high-resolution display, since you stated you are "removing space" in this edit. However, I ask you to reconsider your edit for two reasons:

1. The list of selected home game consoles doesn't actually belong in the references section. They are actually cross-references to related articles, which typically go in the "See also" section.
2. On a low-resolution display, placing the list there squishes the references and results in much more unused space beneath the box. Resize your browser to 800x600 to see what I mean.

Thanks. Anomie 16:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I had a feeling someone was going to tell me something about that template. Well, only if the See also was not just above the references, and I prefer to leave out huge gaps on articles; it looks messy. (Btw, I won't be responding for an other three hours or so, because I'm going golfing. Sit tight, I'll be back. --Hasek is the best 16:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

SNES#See also is not actually just above the references, we have SNES#Content notes in between. As for gaps, as I mentioned we can apparently either have a relatively small gap above the references or have the references themselves squished into narrow columns with unused space to the right. Anomie 18:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, well the second option would be nice, but is there any way to briefen the source info? The only thing the reader really needs to know is the url, date and title. --Hasek is the best 20:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about "briefening" the references to include minimal information, that would be against WP:CITE. Anomie 20:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

But however, if you look at Dominik Hasek's article, there are only a few references that exceed one line. And it doesn't matter if the template stays in the ref heading or not, because as long as the sources are there, it's fine with me. --Hasek is the best 20:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, if all else fails, we'll use a scroll box for the sources, 75 sources should be enough for one. --Hasek is the best 20:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I think moving it up to the Market share heading, because the template is inside the see also there. I'll do it now. --Hasek is the best 20:47, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

(←) The references in Dominik Hasek all take up several lines on my display. Scrollboxes for references are ugly, unnecessary, and interfere with printing. Moving the box up to content sections is even worse than moving it down to the References. It's "See also" type of content, it should go in "See also". I've undone all the random moving you did, and instead left-aligned the portal link and removed the {{clear}}, which should hopefully take care of the issue. Anomie 00:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Jean Lafitte

User:Tiptoety auto-reverted a number edits to this article claiming I was committing vandalism. I believe my rewrites correct a number of grammar and other issues. Please compare with the version before the changes. Am I still a Wikipedia pariah, or can I get unwarned now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.38.24.214 (talk • contribs)

(responded on your talk) - Hasek is the best 18:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I think he spotted as you deleting portions of the article. I'd suggest you discuss it with him. Sometimes those controversial reverts happen on Wikipedia, called "a good faith" revert, meaning that tone, manual of style, unnsessary loss of info or grammar was the edit, however it was reverted. So again, you discuss it with him because I'm not the type of person who likes to handle good faith edits without knowing a thing or two about the person or structure. --Hasek is the best 18:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Career Statistics

After discovering you went on a bit of an edit spree changing the table format for career statistic tables, I have to remind you to stick to the Player pages format. Only goaltenders stats should use the wide (width=90%). All other skaters should either be BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="3" CELLSPACING="0" ID="Table3, or for extra long tables such as Mark Messier, use BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="0" width="75%". Thanks- IrisKawling 23:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Featured topic Drive

Hi, as you may or may not know, some of us at WP:HOCKEY have banded together and are trying to get the various NHL Trophy pages to FT status. It is a big job and if you would be willing to offer any assistance, it would be most appreciated. You can find out more here. Thanks for the time, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Your previous edits against me

On one comment, you said I know nothing about hockey. If you think so, then why did I join Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey? If you know more than me, surely you? (sarcastically). (I actually mean it.) And btw you haven't said anything about your username. "CJ DUB"? What kinda last name is that? And, I'd love to hear what your favourite team is...probably those teams that get about 60-70 point a year, such as the Phoenix Coyotes. Mine's the Ottawa Senators, and they did pretty darn good, eliminating the President's Trophy winning team, Buffalo Sabres.

I actually don't seem like a 12 year old do I? If I did, Id B talkin slang like dis but no, and I was born on January 8; so I'm just past a week of being in the seventh grade. And you know, there's other 12 year olds on Wikipedia too. I'm responding because of your very immature comments. And, mature people help Wikipedia by reverting vandalism, such as blanking pages. And apparantely, you seem to get a lot of notices on this page because of your controversial edits. I do have a list of reasons why Hasek rocks, but on a talk archive. Lastly I'd like to say: Hasek didn't get injured! Woo! And better yet, he re-signed! --Hasek is the best 21:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

• Wow. Welcome to 2 months ago. Just because you join a group on Wikipedia that seeks to improve ice hockey, DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT HOCKEY, or even know how to write an article. It just means you know how to push a button to join. Good for you. Don't EVER post on my discussion page again. CJ DUB 03:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Taxi squad

The article was proposed for deletion due to this concern: This article needs to be improved to eliminate contradictions and to include other sports, among other reasons, by User:Skudrafan1. As you have challenged the prod, I've restored it per policy. --Maxim_(talk) 16:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

STOP POSTING ON MY TALK PAGE

ABOUT STUFF THAT HAPPENED TWO MONTHS AGO

Thx. CJ DUB 23:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Talkpage comments

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Deleting Warnings

...I saw your note to an IP on their page. Just FYI, it's OK to delete from your own talk page. We strongly ENCOURAGE archiving, but the community has taken the position that the warnings remain in the page's talk history, and we as admins usually leave pretty good edit summaries so we can find them quickly. No harm done, just wanted to be sure you knew what the policy was.

I also mirror NewYorkBrad's comment above - please don't edit war them back into a user's page. - Philippe | Talk 04:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of exigent speculative circumstances, we follow the policies as they are written. The user has the right to delete warnings from his own page. It's not the way I'd have written it, but it's the policy we have. - Philippe | Talk 04:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

In any case, he just left a personal attack on his talk page, so I removed it and protected the page for 12 hours, which is the full duration of his block. - Philippe | Talk 04:21, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed... please, stop replacing warnings that I am removing from my IP's talk page. Especially since it's shared, just allow the warnings to remain viewable in history. 66.28.71.162 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.28.71.162 (talk) 16:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Violation

Dear Hasik,

Concerning your recent harassment of me for removing a section from the article on wikipedia that violates basic wiki standards as it is completely un-verifiable, and without any sources, I am asking you to back off, otherwise I will have you banned for both breaking the rules, and harassment. 216.201.33.27 03:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Just a minute, the heading is for a topic that so far has not been proven even exists. It doesn't have to be included, and what's more as nobody but me has even contributed to the talk pages to discuss the section, I find you remarks outragious.

At any rate, I didn't write that section, nor do I care about researching it, but if somebody wants to have it in there, then they should research it and find sources for it. At any rate the entire section does not meet wiki standards of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability, and therefore should be deleted until it does. To include it is continued and deliberate breach of wiki standards. And as it is not sourced, and makes statements about men that are un-porven, that also constitutes POV, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view

At present this article has two major violations, so quite reverting this section, until you source it. 216.201.33.27 03:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Statistics

Yes I did, and yes I am aware. However, the project has recently changed the standards for the statistics and we are in the process of updating all the players. --Djsasso 07:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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Prince of Wales Trophy

The page is looking pretty good, I think the history section could use a couple more sources, then it will be ready. Also, I think the entire table should be amalgamated and you could add a "definition history" list in the history section, something like this, but it's your call. Also, it wouldn't hurt to mark colour the teams in the table that have won the cup. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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User:189.173.32.71

I agree that he is a vandal and should be blocked, but doing so would be in violation of wikipedia policy. We will both keep an eye on that user and hopefully block them. Happy Editing! Tiptoety 01:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yea, but i will still keep an eye on he/r. Thank you, Tiptoety 01:12, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The user just vandalized Creativity once again, i gave them a leve1 4aim warn, next time we can report them. Tiptoety 01:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

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		Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page! SU Linguist 02:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Featured Topic Drive

Hi, I was wondering what your status was with the project. We are very close - there are only 3 unclaimed articles left - and if we all work at it, we could be ready for an FTC by November. Thanks for the time, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks pretty good, so you should go for it. I was going to nominate the Jennings, but I'll wait a few days and stagger the noms a little. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

An article must pass an FLC before it can be an FL. You'll have to nominate it first. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 23:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, your nom was incomplete, so I finished it for you here. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Ice Hockey newsletter

WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter Dear Hasek is the best/Archive2007c)! You are receiving as you are a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey There's been more new thing going on at WP:HOCKEY, and I think this will help you to stay informed. Since the last newsletter sent out in August, there's been great changes. Read on to find out! Maxim(talk) This just in: Maurice 'Rocket' Richard Trophy has just been promoted to featured list status, while the bot was delivering the newsletter. Maxim(talk) 02:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC) And I've just promoted Art Ross Trophy. And Clarence S. Campbell Bowl is at FLC. This should be the last update. Maxim(talk) 00:40, 30 September 2007 (UTC) New recognized content By Maxim Especially due to the featured topic drive, there have been many new featured lists promoted concerning NHL awards. Here's the full list of all the 13 FL's promoted since the last newsletter. Hart Memorial Trophy James Norris Memorial Trophy Vezina Trophy Conn Smythe Trophy Frank J. Selke Trophy Lady Byng Memorial Trophy Lester B. Pearson Award Calder Memorial Trophy Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy King Clancy Memorial Trophy Jack Adams Award Presidents' Trophy List of Calgary Flames players There have been no new good articles or featured articles. Maurice 'Rocket' Richard Trophy has been given A-Class status due to multiple issues raised at FLC. Did You Know? By Maxim There have been 4 new articles featured in the Did You Know section? on the Main Page since August. Wally Tatomir - August 4, 2007, authored by User:Maxim. ...that Wally Tatomir, head equipment manager of the Carolina Hurricanes, holds four patents on ice hockey-related equipment? Mark Major - August 12, 2007, authored by User:Schmackity ...that ice hockey player Mark Major attained 355 penalty minutes during the 1997-98 AHL season for the Portland Pirates, where he averaged 4.5 penalty minutes a game and still holds the club record? Garth Butcher - September 15, 2007, authored by User:Canuckle. ...that Garth Butcher was a member of Canada's first-ever gold medal team at the World Junior Ice Hockey Championships before becoming a pest and setting team records for penalty minutes in the National Hockey League? AMP NHL Winter Classic - September 22, 2007, authored by User:Skudrafan1 ..that the AMP NHL Winter Classic is scheduled to be the first regular-season outdoor National Hockey League game in the United States? Featured Topic Drive By Maxim Started by User:Scorpion0422, the aim of this drive is to make NHL awards a featured topic. A featured topic is basically a set of very high quality articles (good articles and featured articles/lists). In this case, the topic is NHL awards. Many users have helped, including Scorpion0422, Resolute, Serte, Hasek is the best, Maxim, Croat Canuck, Spike Wilbury, FutureNJGov, and T Rex/Dinosaur puppy. The progress has been very good; there are 12 featured lists promoted, and 2 good articles: Hart Memorial Trophy (Scorpion) James Norris Memorial Trophy (Scorpion) Vezina Trophy (Scorpion) Conn Smythe Trophy (Serte) Frank J. Selke Trophy (FutureNJGov) Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (Scorpion) Lester B. Pearson Award (Scorpion) Calder Memorial Trophy (Croat Canuck) Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy (Maxim) King Clancy Memorial Trophy (Maxim) Jack Adams Award (Maxim) Presidents' Trophy (Scorpion) Stanley Cup (Earlier collaboration, very many involved) Traditions and anecdotes associated with the Stanley Cup (Maxim) Check the project page if you are interested in helping out. Although it's closer to being done than not, there's still work to be done. The next topic that might be tackled is Stanley Cup, but this remains purely speculative and in discussion.

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[[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Prince of Wales Trophy]

There have been some issues brought up about the list. You might want to put it on watch and take a look. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 17:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)