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Seemed like we got off on the wrong foot?

Hi ferret. I feel that we got off on the wrong foot here. Perhaps you took my rant on the Village Pump personally? It was a cry of frustration, as I'm not allowed to edit those articles due to COI (and I have not edited them much beyond initial creation, and reverting vandalism), and there are very few others who have contributed, and most who have, or who used to belong to the MUD task force have left, or become inactive. I was truly trying to follow the rules, which at times seem contradictory, and you must admit can be difficult for those not regularly active on Wikipedia to be on top of.

I am certainly not trying to use Wikipedia as a platform to promote RoD, or SMAUG. I simply feel that they hold enough historical significance in the history of MUDs not to be deleted. I will concede that they may not merit individual articles.

If, as you said, that you are, "familiar with ROD and SMAUG and recognized your name. I'm more than adequately familiar with MUDs and MU*s and their history, having ran several myself", then it sounds like you may agree that RoD/SMAUG holds at least some historical significance within the history of online gaming. Sincerely, --Thoric (talk) 18:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@Thoric: No offense has been taken, I'm just attempting apply to the policy and guidelines in the situation. As my comments at both AFDs indicate, I prefer these to be merged somewhere, rather than outright deleted. While I understand that might not be the outcome you would like, I believe we can at least manage to build a paragraph within the context of Diku MUD to note the existence of SMAUG and ROD and their place in the timeline. But I do not believe the standalone articles will survive, as there simply isn't any significant in-depth coverage. That's what WP:GNG wants to see, reliable sources that have spent considerable text discussing the topic. When a source only has 1-2 sentences about something, we call that a "passing mention". Such sources are still useful, they can prove small facts and details, but they don't help towards WP:GNG or the greater notability policy. -- ferret (talk) 18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Your original suggestion was to merge SMAUG into RoD, but you seemed to change your mind after my Village Pump post. How in depth does it need to be, especially within the context of something like a MUD? There was an entire multipage Toronto Star feature article with colour photos. It was a subject (out of two MUDs) in a 15 page research article published by Forum Qualitative Social Research. Justin Olivetti is a contributing editor for Engadget, and wrote an article about MUDs, and RoD was one of the five MUDs he wrote about. I don't think these are simply, "passing mentions"... but I didn't come here for a debate which is best left for the AfD page. I just feel like we should be on the same team, and I have a nagging feeling that I said or did something to offend you, and would like to apologize for it. --Thoric (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

No, I'm not offended. If any of my statements may imply that, simply understand that text poorly conveys tone and I have sometimes tend to write formally and bluntly. -- ferret (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@Thoric: Can you provide more information on the date or issue of the Toronto Star article? I do not believe it, along with Olivetti's article, is enough to surmount GNG, but it is enough to let me start writing a paragraph at DikuMUD so that we have something well sourced and difficult to challenge ready to go. -- ferret (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Author: Chris Frampton, Date: Mar 12, 2002, Section: LIFE (subsection "Boom!"), Text Word Count: 1293, Title: Guru of low tech, Subtitle: For Internet gaming god Derek Snider, the higher purpose is community, not commerce. --Thoric (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Not as much usable detail as I hoped, as it serve a bit more like an interview and a discussion about early internet gaming and commerce. However, I've started a basic paragraph at DikuMud now. A little bit of expansion is possible, feel free to suggest additional text. COI still applies even at the Diku article. -- ferret (talk) 00:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

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'Tis the season

a rare shot of Fferret in the wild, wild winter

Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. It's been a wild year, and I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your contributions and for the role you play in making Wikipedia as good as it can be. Thank you in particular for your tireless work on the Discord server, which has proven to be a great place for building community, I'd say, and for advising me and being willing to use your *professional voice* on my talk. It was a pleasure interacting with you this year. I wish you and your loved ones all the best this December and in the years to come. Cheers, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

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Valve Index

Hello, I just added a lot of great information regarding Valve Index and you removed it all? Which is beyond my understanding, like okay I can accept that some information there were not that important but I also added some needed information that is simply not there and people have to look for other websites for information. Were you too lazy to pick only the bad things or what was the reasoning behind removing all of it? Also there were many credible sources for example Valve itself and to addition some magazine blogs which are supposed to be acceptable and they didn't differ at all with already existing sources to information submitted by other users before me. Why are primary sources bad, shouldn't they be like the most credible source like I could change it to secondary sources but wouldn't that be less credible? I also believe that every information I added was sourced so I do not agree with your "not sourced at all" comment.

And tell me how does information about indexes Base Stations not belong here? The thing that valve index runs on SteamOS apparently does not belong as well and other extra info I added to make things more clear. I can stomach that accessories do not belong although they are a big part of Valve Index and they are important but design choices for the headset and system requirements are something truly important in my opinion and should be allowed. This is a very empty and bland article about Valve Index there's basically nothing and you remove vital information that I added and hide it behind really lazy and wrong reasoning in my opinion.

Pan Mrkvička (talk) 00:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Mass additions of technical details, system requirements, third party accessories, etc with only primary source runs afoul of Wikipedia policies such as WP:NOTCATALOG. Additionally, MOS:VG is against including system requirements for software and accessories, unless reliable secondary sources have made particular note of them. Blogs are unreliable sources, see WP:SPS and WP:USERG. We only rely on primary sources for very basic facts, but in general we must have secondary sources in order to help determine what's important and noteworthy. You may read more at these policy and guidelines: Reliable sourcing, Original research. -- ferret (talk) 00:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Cancelled platform vandal

I quickly noticed this user adding the "cancelled Nintendo 64 game" category to Luigi's Mansion: 98.151.203.232 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Looks like another sock for your sock drawer? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 05:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@ThomasO1989: This looks to be unrelated, just someone random coming through. -- ferret (talk) 14:21, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I remember having issues with an IP like this many years ago, but it’s impossible to tell if it was the same person or just two separate idiots who like hoaxes. Sergecross73 msg me 14:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Sergecross73: The LTA guy is documented at User:Ferret/Sockdrawer#Cancelled_platforms_vandal and is very much still active. Look for an Ireland geolocate and you've found that guy. -- ferret (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

About the list of fictional deities

Hello, I have seen you reverted one of my edits because the fictional deities I added are not as notable as the others mentioned in the list. I admit that I always assume good faith and I am very aware that my edit may be reverted to be honest. I understand that anyone can be wrong and nobody is perfect.

In other words, thanks for making me learn from mistakes.--André the Android^(talk) 21:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

@André the Android: Please don't be discouraged, this is a minor blip, and doesn't reflect poorly on you. A list of this nature has to constantly struggle with keeping a proper scope. If we added every single fictional deity from every book, tv show, video game, etc, the list would be miles long. So the general idea is to keep it to deities who have one way or another proven to be notable on Wikipedia. And yeah, I know, if you read the list there's a lot of problematic entries, but my goal in watching over it is to try to keep it manageable. -- ferret (talk) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ferret: I realize that, while anyone can add any notable character in most of the list of fictional living beings, it seems that every list of fictional theological creatures are limited to even more notable characters (such as Arceus in the case of the list of fictional deities). The reversion you did means that I will just improve the list (such as italicizing the titles which aren't italicized yet and adding reliable sources) and revert edits made by IPs or accounts who assume bad faith in this list.

Besides, as I see that you dedicate to contribute articles about videogames, I wanted to say two things that are in a more or less complicated situation: 1. I remember that I suggested anyone to split an article about a video game adaption of Littlest Pet Shop into 3 articles and the split proposal isn't answered yet 1 month ago, and 2. an article about Rayman himself has recently turned into a redirect and I get the idea to "recreate" it in a sandbox page I will create later while I search for reliable sources and avoid original research. What do you think of everything I have said? Do you think my future contributions related to videogames will be useful?--André the Android^(talk) 22:44, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@André the Android: The Littlest Pet Shop article does need some work. It's named after and focuses on a single game, yet discusses at least 3-4 other games that aren't the same. Rayman, I personally am not a fan of fictional character articles. But if you want to work on it, it is perfectly acceptable to do so as a draft (Draft:Rayman (character)) and when you feel the sourcing is sufficient, send it to WP:AFC for review. -- ferret (talk) 23:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ferret: OK, I respect your opinion on fictional character articles and I will improve the video game adaptation of Littlest Pet Shop''s article a lot in the near future (probably in 2021). Thanks for your advice.--André the Android^(talk) 23:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism.

I did not intentionally try to defame the Sonic the Hedgehog article. I apologize for my mistake. CheckSuruWayo (talk) 04:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hey Ferret, there is no reason to get into an edit war with me over this. The credits are 40 minutes long and include the names of people who you have removed. You are an administrator and experienced, but you are showing a lack of good faith with edit comments such as this [1]. Please undo your edit and start a discussion on the talk page. --Elephanthunter (talk) 02:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Elephanthunter: No, you're showing a lack of good faith. There's a difference between "failed verification" and "I won't take the time to verify it myself". Reverting good faith experienced editors who have done the verification as "failed verification" is assuming bad faith. You're calling me a liar in essence. Yes, some of those people are mentioned in the credits. If you actual read my edit note and checked the documentation for Infobox video game, you'd see that we limit the fields to Lead/Director designated roles. WrathX is experienced in doing this and properly denoting such, and I back checked it myself watching the credits at 2x speed. Every update was valid for the infobox rules. -- ferret (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ferret: I want to clear up that I think you are right. I misunderstood a couple of very important policies when it comes to AAA game infoboxes. You started a discussion on the talk page and I've responded here [2]. Also I'd like to apologize for reverting you. I probably created a lot more confrontation than was necessary to clear things up. --Elephanthunter (talk) 03:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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Atari VCS 2020

Hello, Ferret. Thousands of project sponsors on Indiegogo already have the console at home. There is no official launch date, but the fact is that it can be reserved on some department store websites since September. And the distribution to the sponsors started in mid-December 2020. Greetings. JoaquinFerrero (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@JoaquinFerrero: Use the article's talk page to discuss and provide reliable sources proving a general release. -- ferret (talk) 23:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm working on limited information here

Perhaps you can fill in the blanks? Your last revert on List of Terminator video games was of 170.51.200.178, which geolocates to Buenos Aires, so not even the same continent, but you say I am "clearly the same editor". Then you say "same edits as led to prior protection". Your last revert was shortening the last sentence of the section "NES version". I did not edit that sentence. Where is the evidence that I am 170.51.200.178? 95.145.229.36 (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Your dispute appears to be with a number of redlinked accounts which were editing here last week. Why not ask a CheckUser to investigate them? The CheckUser will establish which continent the redlinked accounts are editing from and report accordingly. These accounts edit around midnight or the early hours of the morning and I don't edit at that time of day at all. 95.145.229.36 (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Do you know how suspicious it is to even know what a Check User is as an IP editor with minimal edits? Sergecross73 msg me 14:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Regardless of whether the IPs are exactly the same editors, or two editors who just happen to be making similar updates, the protection I applied two months ago was to stop the one replying here. Since they immediately repeated their edits on expiration of the protection, that's why it's been reapplied. I'm not playing whack-a-mole. -- ferret (talk) 14:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I'm a little confused here. The November protection was made two minutes after the South American editor's change and was necessarily made to stop him/her. "The one replying here" is not the South American editor, who vandalised the article again yesterday morning. So why don't you leave the vandal (American) edits reverted and restore the others? 95.145.229.36 (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Pretty obvious that my statement indicated I was stopping your edits. -- ferret (talk) 12:35, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

The reason you cite is "sockpuppetry", but you haven't expressly stated that you consider me to be a "sockpuppet". If you do think that, you should say so and give your reasons for so thinking. If you don't say so you should unprotect the article so that the normal editing procedures which apply to editors in good standing can be followed. 95.145.229.36 (talk) 13:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Whether sockpuppetry is 100% right or not is irrelevant. I would have protected the article anyways, as at least 3 IPs continue to make disruptive changes to grammar and manual of style. -- ferret (talk) 13:38, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) If you are truly not a sock puppet, you have other options, such as the WP:EDITREQUEST system, and/or creating an account. You’d have more luck there then trying to repeal this legitimate page protection. Unfortunately, some anonymous editors ruin it for the rest of them. Sergecross73 msg me 13:45, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Precious

Four years!

Have a good new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion: templates

Dear Ferret, I agree with the decision, the reasons that have been presented seem to me to be adequate, reasonable and expressed with cordiality. Please proceed as you see fit. My best wishes -- AntonioMDA (talk) 11 January 2021 — Preceding undated comment added 15:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

@AntonioMDA: I appreciate you reaching out. Could you please leave your comment at the nomination? That may allow this to close out quicker rather than waiting the normal period for discussion. -- ferret (talk) 15:48, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

@Ferret: I have replied on both messages, can you confirm me if it is correct or if you need something else. Many thanks -- AntonioMDA (talk) 11 January 2021

@AntonioMDA: Wonderful, thank you. -- ferret (talk) 16:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Better assume good faith, but thanks anyway that was my intention

Hi, when you reverted this change you commented “Original redirect was correct”, but maybe you have missed something. Before I changed the “Atari VCS (2020 console)” link, this link was redirecting to “Atari VCS (upcoming console)”, the later being wrong since the release was not upcoming anymore. So because the title was not right anymore, I renamed “Atari VCS (upcoming console)” to “Atari VCS (2020)” like I have seen in other language, and then I fixed the link on “Home video game consoles” accordingly. But then Masem reverted the page name change to “Atari VCS (Upcoming console)” again while this was obviously wrong given the console is released since December 2020 and there is acceptable references about this. Then you reverted Masem's change again and then renamed the page from “Atari VCS (upcoming console)” to “Atari VCS (2020 console)”, so the link in “Home video game consoles” template becomes wrong when it was right before the change Masem did and you reverted yourself. So at this point you're just fighting Masem's reverts. This is just wasting my time and yours. Thank you anyway to have renamed the Atari VCS page with 2020 year in it, this was my intention from the start, whatever the word inside the parenthesis or the English Wikipedia-specific conventions I may have missed. 👍 -- Illwieckz (talk) 08:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Illwieckz: Spare me the "better assume good faith", your comments in this process towards multiple editors borders on incivility, and I wouldn't be surprised if a disruption block is in your future. I don't care about your tone overly, I'm good with it, but don't try to high ground. The revert on the navbar about "Original redirect was correct" is due to the fact that you used improper disambiguation in your page move. (2020) is not how we would disambiguated, it would be (2020 console). So the original redirect of (2020 console) was correct, while the new redirect (2020) was not. (2020) became a redirect when Masem reverted your page move. Different Wikipedias have different guidelines and policies, and how they disambiguate is not always in line with how English Wikipedia does it. Masem never reverted you at the navbar template, only I did. The one wasting people's time is you, for making broad sweeping changes that clearly had opposition and failing to even read the contribution history of the template you're here to berate me about. -- ferret (talk) 12:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Move shenanigans

Hey ferret, I was moving Keywords Studios from draftspace back to mainspace, and apparently, the button click registered twice, first creating a redirect and then moving that redirect over the actual article, deleting the article. Could you help me restore the article and talk page? Regards, IceWelder [✉] 23:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

@IceWelder: Done Clean it up :) 23:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Talk page too, maybe? :) IceWelder [✉] 00:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Cheers! IceWelder [✉] 00:15, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Did I successfully find vandalism?

Hello! I know you may be a little angry at me for what I have done but I don't mean to cause any harm to Wikipedia.

On the Bill Hader article did I successfully find vandalism and report it accordingly? SoyokoAnis 03:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@SoyokoAnis: Yes. It's been happening all month to that article, so I've protected it again. -- ferret (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

They're back

Since you're familiar with it:

• 120.89.81.4 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)

Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:14, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

The Bushranger has already handled. -- ferret (talk) 12:50, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Did I use the feature properly?

Hello! I was wondering if I used the feature properly on the Cletus Dunn article? SoyokoAnis 11:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Not really. There's no point tagging stub articles as needing "Cleanup". They are simply short articles, and already have a category and message at the bottom saying "This is a stub, please help by expanding it." -- ferret (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

A well-baked plot

I am frustrated and a little ticked off by the list of reversions in my contributions page, but I want you to know that I appreciate you trying to keep me out of trouble. I'm a struggling writer, and sometimes I forget that this is a site for the purpose of providing unbiased information. In the future, I may just stay away from pages where other editors have already written sufficient plot descriptions. GenesisMaster 12:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) If writing lengthy/detailed plot sections is your thing, you may want to look into editing some fan-wikis/wikia type places. Those places seem to generally allow that sort of thing. Sergecross73 msg me 17:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

EA DICE Edit

Hey, I see you reverted One of My Edits, I get it That it doesn't make It a Predecessor, It's just that It feels like It's the Same Company. LooneyTraceYT (talk) 19:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

That many employees migrated to DICE after their company closed does not belong in the Predecessor field. That field is for companies with a literal corporate history, such that say, "AT&T Corporation" when it was broken up in 1982. The companies created by that break up, such as BellSouth, their predecessor was AT&T Corporation. -- ferret (talk) 19:41, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I am french

Hello,

I read the translate of this article "No Russian" in French. A sentence were not well translated.

Yours sincerely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.38.185.90 (talk) 19:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

You cannot machine translate an article and use that as a basis for changing the original English... Perhaps editing at fr:No Russian would be more suitable? -- ferret (talk) 20:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

You are right! I dit it. Surely, I have been too influenced by this sentence. -- [[User:31.38.185.90] (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:30, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks you to learn me how to use better Wikipedia. 31.38.185.90 (talk) 21:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Super Mario

Hello Ferret,

The edit that I made to Super Mario was correct, it is a mushroom with a cap. If you look into New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the game describes it as a mushroom. I've looked into other articles on this topic, and everyone else calls it "Propeller Mushroom." If you still think this was an error, leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you!

Leo Aguado (talk) 15:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)Leo, sent at 10:41 EST

Though MarioWiki is not a reliable source, the official manual does refer to the power up itself as a "Propeller Mushroom": Scroll to page 15 --ThomasO1989 (talk) 19:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

References

Spider-Man (2018 video game)

So what's wrong about the sources for the game? Source showed all metacritic reviews were for PS4. (they said you can't mark it) There is a report comparing PS5 version with PS4's and showing the difference. (they said it's fully NOT a review)

So what the standard is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.136.207.209 (talk) 10:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm not discussing this with you. I protected the article because you have been edit warring for days, over 20 reverts. I don't care about the particular content. Feel free to follow WP:BRD and use the article's talk page to achieve a consensus. -- ferret (talk) 13:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

You reverted before blocking the page. It's your move. It's your version of "particular content". Are the sources still unreliable for you? Besides you, the last one reverting me is anonymous one. So I talk to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.136.207.209 (talk) 01:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

No, you talk to the article's talk page. WP:BRD puts the burden on you, the one wanting to make a change, to make a discussion and seek consensus for your change. With reverts from multiple editors, this is clear. I reverted you before protecting the article because your frequently changing IP prevents blocking you. But if necessary, I can do a range block to prevent you from disruptively editing further. -- ferret (talk) 01:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

You can give your opinion about "particular content" here. Maybe I can take it to that talk page you indicating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.136.207.209 (talk) 02:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Please let me back in to Discord

Why did you kick me out? NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

@NASCARfan0548: You were banned by Izno after violating the final warning he gave you about following the server rules, in regards to repeated unsolicited direct messages and video calls to moderators and admins. I endorse the ban. If you do not want to continuously find yourself in situations like this, it would serve you well to begin listening to what people tell you. I've noted several instances where experienced editors, admins and non-admins both, have given you advice or warnings against particular behaviors, and you have (deliberately) continued to do them. -- ferret (talk) 00:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Ferret, Sorry, that was my only way of talking to them. I wasn't trying to get banned. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 01:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

My apologies, this will not happen again. Please let me back in. You can even help me do better if you want, as a moderator. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 01:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Your only way of talking to people was to directly message them and cause pings and notifications at random hours, rather than using the publicly available discussion channels? The fact remains you were repeatedly notified of the rules and warned. Can't help you. I'm not interested in taking you on as a project to guide on proper social media etiquette, following conduct guidelines, or heeding warnings from moderators. By all accounts, such as your ill-fated RFA, you simply don't listen to mentors and advice anyway. Please do not contact me further on this topic. -- ferret (talk) 01:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Video games Newsletter survey

Hello ferret! I'm conducting a feature for the video games newsletter similar to that of a survey. I'm going to ask users their opinions on a specific matter and highlight unique and common answers to determine consensus on a subject. Your input would be very valuable, alongside others, to help answer this question.

The question is: How do you determine what makes a video game character notable enough for their own page? Do you follow pre-existing guidelines or have your own opinions on the matter?

Panini^🥪 10:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ferret

Hi Ferret,

I have not made any unnecessary changes to the official websites that you reverted. If you look, I've simply updated them to the https version / to the actual page that is live in Google's index, please can you revert them, I'm only trying to tidy up Wikipedia. Thanks Konamithree (talk) 13:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Konamithree: Did you read any of my edit notes? Removing {{Official website}} is not the appropriate course, and when a web link lacks http:// and https://, modern browsers will automatically try https:// first. Your changes are unnecessary. Additionally, you are sometimes changing base webpages to the redirected English page. This means uses who use other languages primarily are forced to the English site then have to navigate back to their preferred languages. Leave these alone, they are working correctly. Redirects are fine. -- ferret (talk) 14:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah I get you, thanks for the response and explanation Ferret! Konamithree (talk) 10:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey there

I see that you removed all my links. Can you please explain to me the difference between an actual link to a resource that's talking specifically about the said game and their gacha characters vs actual spam sites that are not related to the subject? How is my link spammy in nature? Just because I posted it to different game pages a bunch of times?

I actually thought I was legit contributing to those pages since I've seen some similar links as well. Anyway, cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StephenMeta (talk • contribs) 17:56, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Spamming a link into multiple articles while having a related keyword in your username (Meta) and editing almost no topics unrelated to the link is almost always clear spamming. WP:RS should also be read. This simply is not a reliable source for Wikipedia use. -- ferret (talk) 18:00, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I see, so the username keyword now somehow is an editorial guideline? What if I was working for CNN and I had StephenCNN, that doesn't make sense no? I simply picked it because anything else was not available. Just for the record "StephenMeta" is not a keyword, if it were separated maybe it would be viewed that way by Wikipedia and search engines, otherwise, it's just a username or a brand.

Regarding the edits yes, I only edit what interests me and is of use to others and I thought that's the point of this no? I see that you're a gamer as well, do you feel confident making edits on medical pages?

Anyway like I said I get it, I've added too many edits today and in a way it makes sense, but categorizing it as spam is a bit too much for me when I'm clearly not linking to viagra sites, and the links made sense. About reliable sources, sure, again if it was a political or medical page, I've read that link and I guess we're not experts if we don't write for Kotaku or whatever.

I don't expect the links to be re-added, by the way, just saying that the reasons for your actions are more on the verge of "meh, you've added it too many times today, and it's part of your name), regardless if it makes sense to the topic or not.

Cheers, Stephen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StephenMeta (talk • contribs) 18:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

It's your choice not to fully read my response. The warning for spamming links was due to adding it a ton at once with a username suggesting a connection. A "StephenCNN" adding CNN links everywhere would immediately be given a spam warning and COI warning as well, and maybe even be blocked immediately. As for their meta tier list site, the detail about it being an unreliable source stands period. These links would have been removed regardless of your username and how often you were adding them. WP:RS doesn't just apply to political and medical pages. You also seem to be confusing our use of "spam" to mean things like spam emails for Viagra and the like. For us, spam is any editing with the intent to promote a site, person, company or product. "Spamming" a link to a site your username suggests you might have a connection with certainly falls within that. -- ferret (talk) 18:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Of course I have a connection to the website, I never tried to hide that in the first place, I just didn't knew that somehow you can't post links to it even if it was relevant to the topic. StephenMeta (talk) 19:10, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

You definitely have tried to hide it. Just above you suggested that "Meta" in your name was pure coincidence and just something that was available. Please, we deal with this all the time, we aren't so naive. -- ferret (talk) 21:20, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) - For what it's worth, I can verify that everything Ferret said is correct, and I would handled things in the exact way had I seen you do the same thing in any articles I watch over. No one should be here primarily to push another website, especially when it's one they have ties to. That's not the intended purpose of Wikipedia. Please stop or your account will end up blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 17:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Halley's Comet

Hi. No worries if you aren't interested but I just wanted to mention that you blocked this IP after a vandalism spree including a bit of a campaign on Halley's Comet. Judging by their edits there, it seems possible that they are (or were) back on this IP for more of the same. But it may be stale and they may have given up ... what do I know? Just though it might be worth a mention. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: Definitely the same person. Blocked to match their IPv6. -- ferret (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 21:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

How you need to be correct

Mess with a freelancer, you get the horns. You need reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UltraJackNotEvenFound (talk • contribs) 18:26, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

First of all, I am a freelancer. Second you need reliable sources. Third if you don't, people think you're lying and you are blocked FOR GOOD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UltraJackNotEvenFound (talk • contribs) 18:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@UltraJackNotEvenFound: First of all, the only one who has not been using reliable sources is you. Multiple editors have pointed out the issues with your edits. LGE is an operating partner, and IGC retains ownership. Second of all... I am a Wikipedia administrator. I promise you that I am not reverting you or warning you over your edits flippantly. If you make them again, you WILL be blocked, by ME, to prevent further disruption of the article. -- ferret (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi! I see you blocked me again, but the block ended last evening (Wikipedia is 5 hrs ahead of me). What edits of mine do you think are vandalism? Also I can give you gaming tips for Super Mario Maker, some other Mario games, Splatoon, Minecraft, and Merge Dragons. Help for Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury will be available on May 1st, and help for Splatoon 3 will be available on TBD. Splatoon 3 has not been released yet, in case you're wondering. -24.115.255.37, 16:45, 21 February 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.255.37 (talk)

You were blocked for continuing to make improper and unsourced edits. If you continue, you'll be blocked again. More than enough warnings and explanations have been given. -- ferret (talk) 16:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

On what page(s)? Also do you want those gaming tips/tutorials? -24.115.255.37, 18:28, 21 Febraury 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.255.37 (talk)

Answer me! -24.115.255.37, 18:51, 23 February 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.255.37 (talk)

You were blocked for neutral point of view, unsourced edits, vandalism, disruptive editing, repeating edits you'd be prior warned about. If you continue to bother my talk page like this, I'll treat it as disruption as well. -- ferret (talk) 19:13, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

What page was it on? I know HOW I got bocked, I want to know WHAT PAGE it was on. -24.115.255.37, 12:52, 5 March 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.255.37 (talk)

I'm not even the admin who blocked you, and it's plain as day to see that you got blocked for disruptive editing. I mean, how are we supposed to take you seriously when you make edits like this. Obviously not appropriate. It's stuff like that, that gets you blocked. Now stop wasting people's time before you get blocked again. Sergecross73 msg me 14:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll try not to vandalize Pearl and Marina again! -24.115.255.37, 00:42, 11 March 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.115.255.37 (talk)

Hi Ferret,

Hi Ferret, I am a new user and that was the first edit I ever made. Sorry, for not seeing your message "We don't include edition break downs and prices without secondary reliable coverage. Encyclopedic tone as well." I have never before been on Wikipedia. I also thought that since I wasn't logged in it was just deleting it thats why I kept re-adding the Hero Edition thing. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, sorry if it came across that way. I hope you have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.76.190 (talk) 19:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

No problem. -- ferret (talk) 19:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Have a good weekend! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.76.190 (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Ore no Shita de AGAKE

Hello! Thank you for helping clean up this article. I was curious as to why you removed the list of voice actors - in that genre especially, voice actors are considered very significant, and most of the ones in that game were famous. Do you think there is a better way to list or mention them? Thanks, Londonbeat41692 (talk) 03:38, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

@Londonbeat41692: See WP:VGSCOPE #6 and #11. #6 forbids character listings that are not backed by reliable secondary sourcing, i.e. showing that secondary sources took note of the characters in particular. #11 is against cast lists in general, unless they are particularly famous actors or significant coverage exists. In either case, it prefers them to be covered in prose, not list format. Note VGSCOPE is a subsection of MOS. -- ferret (talk) 12:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. The articles you removed the lists from did contain reliable secondary sourcing, and the actors were rather famous. I looked at VGSCOPE at the time you did the edits and wasn't sure why you felt it applied, besides that the characters were listed (which was mainly done to note the cast). Would you like me to find extra sources in addition to what you removed? Thanks, Londonbeat41692 (talk) 01:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Apologies, I just went back and checked and see now that even though the sources were present, the footnotes weren't clear on this particular article. Hikaru Midorikawa's performance in particular was covered by Dengeki Online (a major video game magazine), which was posted. https://dengekionline.com/data/news/2007/6/21/b8b03c4b7878aa1f9a43d3720a7d88b2.html Londonbeat41692 (talk) 01:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@Londonbeat41692: That's kinda the point. Yes, you had some sources that verified the character was voiced by the actor. But it's just a list of characters and who voiced them with no context or information. The proper way to do it, especially for Midorikawa, is to use that source that explicitly discusses that role and write prose about it. -- ferret (talk) 01:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Paper.io

Thinking of making a new page about the Paper.io series, not a redirect.

The page will be called ‘Paper.io(series)’.

I know it had a deletion in 2018 before and was protected in 2021 since some IP was disruptively editing to make it pass, without sufficient references. It was a long story.

I want to try something else though. Hope it works.

92.40.171.15 (talk) 16:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

If you do it, it'll be deleted and you'll be blocked again. -- ferret (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind, original block is still up. Blocked for evasion. -- ferret (talk) 19:32, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Arcana Heart

Sorry for bothering you right now and i know you're very busy with your own stuff but i need help, since you're an admin: about 3 days ago, i finished my draft for Arcana Heart (video game) and moved it as an article but after Onel5969 reviewed it today, turns out that the character section i brought from the section of the main series' article (Arcana Heart#Introduced in Arcana Heart) into my draft containded copyright violation from https://www.castingcall.club/projects/arcana-heart-3-love-max-six-stars-2 and i legit did not know it was lifted from somewhere else but upon doing some research in the main series' revision history and outside Wikipedia, i found out that said character section for Arcana Heart 1 was pasted by the User:Mr. Magoo and McBarker from a redirect of an earlier article for Arcana Heart 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arcana_Heart&diff=793875305&oldid=793660691) and that the website Onel linked in the copyvio-revdel template uses text from this IGN article for the first Arcana Heart: (https://www.ign.com/articles/2008/04/01/arcana-heart-character-profiles). Like i've said before, i did not know it was lifted from another source and i really apologize for the inconvenience but this has me worried since i saw the notification from my phone when i woke up earlier today. Roberth Martinez (talk) 21:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@KGRAMR and Onel5969: Couple things going on here. First, KGRAMR when you copy from other articles you must give attribution. The content you added to your draft was taken from Special:Diff/793875305, originally added by Mr. Magoo in 2017. Please make sure you do this in the future by noting in your edit note where you copied from within Wikipedia. Second, Castingcall.club lists this "fan dub project" as being posted Oct 2020, indicating they copied from Wikipedia, not the other way around. The content in question is WP:USERG as well, i.e. some random member of the site made a "fan dub project" then copied profiles out of Wikipedia. This is not a copyright violation, Wikipedia's content is older in this case. -- ferret (talk) 22:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ferret:Thanks for the advice and sorry for the inconvenience! Roberth Martinez (talk) 02:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, without attribution, doing a routine NPP review, I wouldn't know that. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:59, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Prisencolin (talk) 20:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Xbox

i Apologize For Uploading incorrect images Of Xbox And it Will Not Happen Again Thank You Nakita Kelley (talk) 09:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

And then you did it again, which is why I gave you a final warning. -- ferret (talk) 01:29, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay i Will Not Upload Are Edit Anything Nakita Kelley (talk) 01:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Can You Please Tell How To Remove My Account Please Please Please! 😭 Nakita Kelley (talk) 01:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Can You Block Are Something i Just Off Wikipedia And i'm Not Going To Stop Bugging You intell You Remove My Wikipedia Account Nakita Kelley (talk) 01:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be removed or deleted. You can simply stop editing if you don't want to edit any further. -- ferret (talk) 01:29, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

RevanRevanRevan

Hi Ferret, you may already be onto this but fairly certain they are a sock of InfinityTrainer/Cassandra872. InfinityTrainer also took issue with claims of Revan's gender. S0091 (talk) 17:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Worth a quickcheck? -- ferret (talk) 17:14, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

 Confirmed, along with MaxinePowerful. I'm not 100% sure, but there might be some proxy use here. It's hard to tell what you're looking at sometimes. It's possible that some of my range blocks aren't wide enough. I can look closer if more socks show up. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ferret. I believe whoever is behind InfinityTrainer/Cassandra872/RevanRevanRevan is back to editing articles in the KoTOR series (Carth Onasi and Bastila Shan) with the same editing pattern, only this time they are operating as an IP user as opposed to utilizing another sockpuppet user account. Not sure if it's worth noting or looking into, but I thought I'd inform you. Thanks. Haleth (talk) 15:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Behaviorally, seems likely. I know it's an IP, but if you think it's worth doing another check or range adjustment. Looks like it's a proxy IP. -- ferret (talk) 15:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/211.197.11.0/24 looks to me like it's part of a VPN. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Ooof. The /24 makes it clear he's operating on that VPN range. The rest lines up too. -- ferret (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Ferret

Yeah, felt familiar but I was confused since before his previous block he wanted to write something different.Tintor2 (talk) 18:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Asobi Asobase

If you think my edit is not an improvement, I hope you *correct" the translation of the title instead of me. I think I had linked enough informational pages to help for the correct interpretation and explanation of the construction. The current translation is so off that it's hard to pass by for me. As I already asked, where did it come from in the first place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.184.170.210 (talk) 13:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

The first problem is that we simply don't do what you did. We don't cram in an actual dictionary definition of Japanese words and explain them like that. At a glance, there was not a real explanation for your change. Often times a direct literal translation is not intended. Many titles are translated to something more full than their direct literal meaning. Finally... It looks like the current version was set in August 2020, Special:Diff/971479184, by a Japanese editor from Fujitsu. Between two Japanese IP editors changing it, I won't contest further changes, but keep in mind we wouldn't list out dictionary definitions regardless. -- ferret (talk) 13:33, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm saying that the translation is simply *wrong" unless it's a free translation. And I think the translation is supposed to be there to be a literal translation or an explanation of the original language title, but not a free translation (confusing and I think it is not even good at that.) I hope you correct the translation in my place, having you reverted my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.184.170.210 (talk) 14:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Sonic Move

I am very sorry that I moved the page. But I think it is constructive. It was to prevent ambiguity. Should we begin a discussion to move the page? (on sonic talk page) Because That was seriously a constructive edit--CrayonArt45 (talk) 00:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I moved it again, is it good now?--CrayonArt45 (talk) 00:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@CrayonArt45: No, please don't waste time opening such a discussion. The move you made goes against our naming policies, and the current name is the proper location as it's the primary topic (the franchise as a whole). We use other methods, such as hatnotes and disambiguation, to denote other topics that share a similar name like the actual character or first game. You don't seem to have moved it again, THANKFULLY, if you do you'll likely be blocked for the disruption you're causing. -- ferret (talk) 00:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I was just about to do that! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrayonArt45 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

You don't need to do anything. We've already had a lot of discussions on this, and it's currently handled in a way that is supported by policy and had a consensus of editors. There's nothing to be done. Sergecross73 msg me 01:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

DuckTales Remastered

Thanks for correcting the page — my yesterday's edit was done out of mistake. All i needed to do is to add the second composer and a source reference without pressing the undo button. Have a nice day. Eastwestlost (talk) 09:09, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

no knife/rob crow

I get it, but does this count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc3Sl5RQ3YU I'm kinda puzzled, thanks in advance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eastwestlost (talk • contribs) 14:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Please read Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts. This explains what's allow or not. No, guest singing on a cover isn't really enough. "One-time collaboration for a single song" is also disallowed as is "Groups that have played or toured together as separate acts". -- ferret (talk) 14:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

That explains a lot! Kudos to you, sir.Eastwestlost (talk) 14:51, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your support for new editors. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:ImaginesTigers submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

ferret is a long-term administrator with a heavy focus on vandalism. Ferret has long been a vanguard for WP:VG content, but in Early January he undertook a project I would never even consider. Following specific post about the list of PlayStation 3 games, ferret spent hours fixing the lists (1, 2, 3, 4). I know that this award is meant to support mostly new editors, being a part of WP:RETENTION, but ferret does help new editors. For example, me. I mentioned how significant he was on my first FA nomination, and he's assisted me on multiple projects outside of the video game topic. Thank you for your consideration! As someone whose only been editing for a few months, all of the banners on my profile were awarded to me by ferret, and (liking shiny things), that has kept me here. That is a good editor.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

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ferret

Editor of the Week for the week beginning April 11, 2021

A long-term vandalism focused administrator and vanguard for WP:VG content. Early this year ferret spent hour after hour fixing the lists (1, 2, 3, 4) which assisted and supported new editors. Awards banners to newbies which often keeps them participating.

Recognized for

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Submit a nomination

Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 18:31, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Unexpected but greatly appreciated! -- ferret (talk) 18:45, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Very well deserved! Congrats F and enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 18:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Congrats! Sergecross73 msg me 19:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Verdict on discord ban

I know this is not my first time here and I know that my first time here was spitting out total hoax. I just want to know how long I would be banned in the discord server (is it a definite period or an indefinite).

Below is a chronology on my past deeds in the English Wikipedia Discord server:

• Sometime between May-July 2020 I entered the English Wikipedia Discord server
• In December 2020, I spammed "molester" to the entire channel of the server, which caused my account to be banned from the server. The spamming was conducted by myself with my own awareness.
• My first attempt at appeal was by using an alt account on December 2020. The attempt was a stupid hoax by me and the alt was subsequently banned
• From that day to mid-February 2021, I continued infiltrating the discord server with about five different active alts and ten different passive alts.

To conclude, the above are my conducts in the English Wikipedia Discord server. The reason I came here is to request clarification on the duration of my ban. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

P.S. : A month ago I received continuous harassment after entering a server. Therefore, I have to delete the account and switch to another account (Jeromi Mikhael#7051). Please ban this account to enforce the verdict. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeromi Mikhael (talk • contribs) 07:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not even going to consider lifting your ban with an admission of continued evasion as recently as a month ago. Your presence in the server was disruptive, causing complains to moderators, culminating in your "molester" spam that got you banned, which you then lied about and pulled a "little brother" excuse. On top of that, numerous editors since your ban have complained to moderators that it was clear you were still in the server monitoring the chat as they would mention articles and you would suddenly appear and edit them. Try again in six months, similar to WP:SO, and I may consider. Any evidence that you're still lurking the server and interfering with other editors by it will cause my offer to be rescinded. -- ferret (talk) 13:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll add another necessary but insufficient condition to being let in: You must provide the Discord ID of each of the sock accounts and either elect to remove them from the server yourself or have us remove them. Without replacement of any kind whatsoever. Izno (talk) 13:55, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Come on, man. Re-read what you just documented. What part of any of that would indicate that you're ready for a second chance at any point? Don't answer. None of it did. Sergecross73 msg me 13:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know

The edit request that you blocked me for was later granted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.130.113 (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Block evasion? This appears to be the same person who disrupted talk:minecraft. I don't remember the IP they used. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Literally don't know which edit request you're talking about. I don't see any changes at all related to your non-sense edit requests from before. This kind of bragging is disruption as well besides. @Guy Macon: Not evasion as the original block has expired but I don't have high hopes they'll be constructive. -- ferret (talk) 21:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

First of all, the change I wanted was to add hardcore mode to the list of gamemodes in Minecraft.

If you go there, you will see that it is added, with the text in parentheses, (only available in Java edition).

And second, how does someone "evade" a block? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.130.113 (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

• You jump really quickly to the left and the right so the block doesn't hit you. GMG^talk 15:42, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  Like this? [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umj0gu5nEGs ] --Guy Macon (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Hardcore mode" has been in the article for a long long time. It was not recently added. Just further illustrates the disruptiveness of your previous edit requests. None of them seemed to have mentioned Hardcore mode anyways. -- ferret (talk) 15:57, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

174.255.130.113 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is still bothering me on my talk page.[3] --Guy Macon (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Its kinda hard for me to show you, because you deleted said edit requests.

Mind copy and pasting them here?

You said, "not everyone plays on Java edition."

This article is for all Minecraft users.

And yet hardcore mode was not included.

I would like to see my edit requests.

Unless I am losing my memory completely, I asked for you to add Hardcore mode.Or spectator, I dont remember which.

(talk page watcher) Even if edits are deleted, you should be able link to your edit from the WP:PAGEHISTORY, which registers virtually every edit ever made. FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 20:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

The article has a section on hardcore mode and has had it for a long time. All of your edit requests are visible in this old diff: Special:Diff/1012305628. You mention hardcore once, in context of "five difficulties". It's time to drop the stick and move on, continuing to bother people about this, especially when you don't seem to remember what you're talking about, is disruptive. -- ferret (talk) 20:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

You changed something, and I don't know what, but you are right.

This discussion serves no further purpose and is a waste of our time.

• drops stick* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.255.130.113 (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Range block issued

The IP editor has clearly not dropped the stick, continuing to evade as their IP changes and resuming harassment of anyone who's been involved. @Guy Macon, Ashleyyoursmile, and Anarchyte: Special:Contributions/174.255.128.0/22 blocked for 6 months. No constructive collateral it looks like, and it's the third block on this range. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Note

When SoyokoAnis was initially unblocked, I was 95% sure that it would end in a re-block, but wanted that outcome to be on them rather than their mentor rage-quitting over ARBPIA, and now we've gotten there. Thank you for taking the time to keep an eye on it and provide helpful VG links. DanCherek (talk) 20:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Jetcold0 probably IP socking

Hello, I see you blocked Jetcold0 indefinitely. I would like to let you know I suspect them of IP socking at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Toshihiko_Masuda&action=history – I have no other explanation for "how the IP found out about the submission". Since the IP was blocked for long time before, maybe it's a good idea to just block it again, but I defer to your judgement here. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Martin Urbanec: Extreme duckiness, 3 year blocked. Topic area overlap, behavior overlap, logged in versus logged out editing corresponds with blocks on each. -- ferret (talk) 13:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciated :) Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Moving forward with the Switch game list

Hi, in your last message on Talk:List of Nintendo Switch games (A–F) you said Draft the final suggested bullet points so we can say "Support" and move on - I posted my draft on the 15th, but no one has responded. What do you suggest as the next steps to bring this to a close? Can I take silence as acceptance and move ahead to action? Kidburla (talk) 17:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a look, been on and off busy and watchlists fade into distant memory. -- ferret (talk) 18:50, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks a lot for your support. No one else seems to be responding but I think I can probably move forward just on the basis of your approval... Kidburla (talk) 22:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kudburla: The traditional way is to wait at least a week for an important thing like this. That's the rule of thumb for most discussions such as splits/moves/mergers. -- ferret (talk) 22:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay, no worries. I thought as we had already reached a consensus in the earlier sections and this is just about the draft text, it would be a shorter time. But I'm okay to wait. By the way, that's now the third time you've pinged me as "Kudburla" rather than "Kidburla", meaning the ping doesn't get through to me. I only saw this message as I happened to check your talk page. I would appreciate it if you spell my username correctly :) Kidburla (talk) 11:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kidburla: I promise I'm not doing it on purpose, I'd appreciate it if you recognize that simple typos are happening. There's other users with somewhat similar usernames and my fingers do what they want. Sometimes I catch it, sometimes I don't. -- ferret (talk) 11:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Ferret: That is why I didn't even mention it the first 2 times it happened. I assumed it was just a typo. I do appreciate that typos happen. However after it happened 3 times within a short space of time I thought I had better mention it so you are aware. That's all :) Kidburla (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Quack?

• SoyokoAnis (talk · contribs)
• Quaverstand15 (talk · contribs)

I quite hope I'm wrong, but there's at least some behavioral similarity. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 02:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

• I would agree this looks fairly ducky. @Jpgordon: can you look? -- ferret (talk) 12:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Quack. Duck soup. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 14:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • @Jpgordon: Do you mind if I slap the tags on all these for record keeping? And can I take it that SoyokoAnis's block is officially a CU block? -- ferret (talk) 15:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
      • If it says "checkuser block" on the block, it's a CU block. If it doesn't, it's not. As far as tagging, do whatever you want. (That sounded gruff. Didn't mean to, but "sure, if you want; and no, not unless tagged explicitly" would have been nicer.) --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 15:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Rather depressing, to see an editor take what started out as a borderline CIR block that no one was too happy about—I count eight participants (including you and the original blocking admin) at the original AN/I thread, with zero putting indef as first choice—and turn it into what (if I had to put money on it) will soon enough be a routine "Blocked. Tagged. Swept for sleepers. Archiving." Maybe things just seemed scarier when I was new, but the way I remember it, there was a time when a new editor making those kinds of mistakes wouldn't have gotten nearly that much AGF, so to get that and throw it away... sigh.

Next step in the playbook, I suppose, is about 20 unblock requests that both defend and deny the socking, leading to TPA revocation. Was gonna warn her about that too, but I doubt there's much point. If this turns into a 3X and she ever appeals at AN, please ping me. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 20:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

What’s your problem man?

Why are you re-editing my edits. Notdost (talk) 17:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Notdost: My edit summary: "Reverted 1 edit by Notdost (talk): We don't link drafts from article space." Please let me know if you need further clarification. -- ferret (talk) 17:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok. Notdost (talk) 17:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)