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Latest comment: 11 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion
I shouldn't have semi-indeffed Two-spirit, even though it needs the protection, as I edit the page. Could you please redo the protection so it's clean? I'd appreciate it. Thanks. - CorbieVreccan☊☼20:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
@CorbieVreccan Just to make sure I understand correctly, you'd like me to remove and then reinstate the indef semi protection. Alternatively, I think I could just "endorse" the protection by protecting the already-protected page and it would appear in the log (if that makes any sense). EvergreenFir(talk)22:11, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Latest comment: 10 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
May I ask if you could semi-protect Pachycephalosaurus and Triceratops for a while? They're being targeted by an anonymous editor using different IPs to rewrite the type species in order to introduce erroneous info while ignoring and deliberately changing the invisible comments explaining why the type species are not be changed. Mr Fink (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
อย่ามาตบะ is the user in question. I've been trying to resolve a dispute about how to go about dealing with the infobox for House of Representatives (Thailand) and his responses in my talk page have been extremely unhelpful. It has come to a point where I do not think WP:3O will be of any use. He has also persistently reverted what I've edited despite insisting that the article must stay frozen until we've come to a conclusion. I've been forced to undo his reversions because if I don't do so he would simply ignore my side of the discussion (I've waited in good faith and determined that he's actually not willing to talk without his version being struck down). I would like to ask for your adjudication on this matter and how to move forward with these kinds of incidents in the future since I've never participated in the conflict resolution process before. If my conduct in this matter has been sub-par I most certainly will welcome feedback and advice. KrebsLovesFiesh (talk) 07:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 10 months ago5 comments3 people in discussion
Hi, back in July you blocked Special:contributions/2601:152:5080:9D30:0:0:0:0/64 for 3 days for disruption and "likely block evasion/socking". I know it's been a while, but I don't suppose you remember, or can easily figure out now, whose block the IP was evading? I tried to figure it out myself but failed. I was thinking maybe MegaSmike46, but my knowlege of the subject matter is nil, so I didn't want to reblock the range (for a lot longer, they are prolific) without more. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:24, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
Ain't that the truth? Usually, I don't try. So, we have "my" range (Rockville, Maryland), "your" (blocked) range (Rockville), and Special:contributions/24.126.30.250 (Rockville) referred to in your blocked range...+ the block log of the 24. IP, which indicates it was CU-blocked for 6 months back in January 2023 by NinjaRobotPirate. That's enough for me to block my range for 6 months, which I just did.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
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Hello! Youtube videos are usually not considered reliable sources unless they are about the person in the video or from a major news organization. If you can find a source like AV Club that says there's a cult following, that would help support your edit. As for other articles, unfortunately we cannot catch every instance of poor sourcing. If you know of them, I suggest either making an edit request or removing them yourself. EvergreenFir(talk)20:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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Ok, done. Maybe they'll move on to another school or an elevated level of maturity by the time the block expires (she thought, simultaneously hopeful and doubtful).-- Ponyobons mots18:34, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
List of presidents and vice presidents of the United States
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Latest comment: 7 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Good evening,
Respond to this at your leisure, but I saw that you removed the Universal Kids tag from the Tree Fu Tom article, when it lists the networks it was on. Why, if I may ask? I know it hasn't aired on it for a while, and it was before it even rebranded, but I think it's still somewhat accurate. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but why not put it back, with perhaps more accuracy? Triviatronic9000 (talk) 03:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hi; thanks for the block. You may want to take further action, as this user has accused myself and other editors of being "Nazi thugs" (diff) and is making threats to evade blocks (1, 2). Tol (talk | contribs) @ 05:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Hello again. Sorry if what I said on the last topic of conversation was bad in some way. I don't know what I said, but I'll try and do better, if I know what I said. Triviatronic9000 (talk) 01:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Malaysian IP rangeblock
Latest comment: 6 months ago4 comments4 people in discussion
I have been contacted by a Malaysian user who says:
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WP:BLPN#Luis Elizondo (see OP's talk page} which is related to WP:FTN#UFOlogy promoter BLPs We are getting new editors on these topics more or less every day. And given the attempt to dox an editor, I'm taking this all very seriously and it's a time swamp. Read the Reddit thread[10] if you have the stomach (and of course time and interest, don't if you lack these). And this one[11]. Thanks. Doug Wellertalk09:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hello! I have just requested for page protection and i see you have done it just before i put in the request. Thank you very much. I have reverted multiple of the same exact edits from different users. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 05:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
@Elvisisalive95 great minds think alike! I reverted an addition related to rapping earlier and saw in the history that it's continuing so I added the protection. Hopefully that will stop the disruption for now. EvergreenFir(talk)05:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes they do! I appreciate it. I originally just added a short sentence about it under his personal life. Then it got turned into people adding an entire discography, including him in rapper categories, and most recently the changes to his occupation. Let’s hope this stops it! Thanks again & i’ll see you around. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 05:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Latest comment: 5 months ago3 comments1 person in discussion
Hey so this diff. I had warned for removing content without accurately explaining why. This came after this edit by the IP in which they were warned by another user. Not to mention a plethora of other unexplained removals. Looking again at their repeated deletion here, where they gave the explanation “fake news” I can see how i overlooked that. But to the eye of someone patrolling recent changes and their talk page it sure seemed like it was constituting vandalism at the time. Just wanted you to see where i was coming from. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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Moving this here because NOTFORUM things. But radfem seems to be a self-created label. TERF seems to be a label from one group of radfems to distinguish themselves from TERFs. Comes off a bit like old school splits in the Internacional. Because of course radical socialist are the natural enemy of capitalists, monarchists, socialists, globalists, anarchists, socialists, that neighbor who let's their dog crap on your lawn, oligarchs, socialists, and above all other socialists. GMGtalk12:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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Is there a reason why you seem to be going through my contribs and reverting them, giving justifications that are, on face, rather weak? This all seems vaguely antagonistic, though, of course I will assume good faith. Peter L Griffin (talk) 01:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Good call on the prot, but changed to semi based on the fact that all of the disruption is anons, new accounts, and is pretty sporadic - Alisontalk19:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh wow, you're 100% right. I'm not sure why but I had thought you reverted the edit including the comment's text for some reason. I definitely deserve a trout for that.
Latest comment: 4 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion
Just a heads up that guy you just edit blocked for us is just doing stuff on his talk page now. Id like to also take the time to thank you for doing that, definitely a interesting past 15-20 minutes for me. Good work.
Latest comment: 4 months ago2 comments2 people in discussion
In 2020, you had protected the page to permanently restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be reduced to match the edit protection? – robertsky (talk) 03:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Your response was "?" You know more about revision deletion than I do, but if "normal" editing is not subject to revision deletion then hiding the edit is misuse of the tool. Please read the comment and let me know whether a "normal" administrator (i.e. yourself) would consider it to be
"Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material...long-term abuse...personal attack...troll".
Something else I discovered this morning: at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy/Archive 24#Blocking IPs per request of school administration? an IP asked that where IT departments have procedures in place to ensure editing is constructive pupils should not be blocked from editing. This was seconded by Doug Weller. Seven hours and two minutes later, without any notification to the participants, an administrator blocked the IP for five years, claiming "long-term abuse". Again, I can see no basis for the call whatsoever. Another example I spotted this morning: IP 80.5.88.70, which appeared to be making really constructive edits, was blocked for three years eight hours after editing without any kind of warning by the same administrator. The reason given in the block log was "long-term abuse from this IP". Couldn't the administrator have engaged with the editor first? Judging by the amount of RD2 deletions on this page over the past decade there may be a lot of people watching who have an opinion on the matter. 92.25.133.126 (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Marceline the Vampire Queen: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. –DMartin05:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Updated White Mexicans Metrics
Latest comment: 3 months ago9 comments2 people in discussion
I see you went ahead and combed through the recent publications we have on the data which is appreciative and great! However, why is the info box still displaying numbers that were completely made up and not backed by a single source? Analyticalreview (talk) 00:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but are you able to even see the pie chart provided? They clearly state by their calculations (which are not official by any means), the Mestizo population is 62%, Amerindian 7%, and "Other" is 31%. If we are assuming everyone in the other category is "White" (which the article itself states not everyone in the "Other" category is in the White category)
Here is the quote:
Generally speaking, the mixture of indigenous and European peoples has produced the largest segment of the population today—mestizos, who account for about three-fifths of the total—via a complex blending of ethnic traditions and perceived ancestry. Mexicans of European heritage (“whites”) are a significant component of the other ethnic groups who constitute the remainder of the population
So if I was being extremely strict to what the source is explicitly stating we actually would not be able to even say it is 30% (it is in fact probably lower due to what all other sources state). Analyticalreview (talk) 23:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
My mistake here is the full quote:
Mexico’s population is composed of many ethnic groups, including indigenous American Indians (Amerindians), who account for less than one-tenth of the total. Generally speaking, the mixture of indigenous and European peoples has produced the largest segment of the population today—mestizos, who account for about three-fifths of the total—via a complex blending of ethnic traditions and perceived ancestry. Mexicans of European heritage (“whites”) are a significant component of the other ethnic groups who constitute the remainder of the population.
Here are the numbers the pie chart provides:
62% Mestizo
31% Other
7% Amerindian
It is stated a "significant amount" of the Other percentage is indeed Mexicans of predominate European ancestry but it's definitely not all of them which they make clear. We also have Afro-Mexicans (which according to official government publications make up around 2% of the population), Asian-Mexicans, etc. Analyticalreview (talk) 23:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
I don't see such chart on the ref used in the article, I see a picture of a church though. There may be a misunderstanding here, as the chart you mention does appear in the "Kids Brittanica" site and is dated as being from 2012, but rather than argue wheter this has to be threated as a different source or wheter it is outdated now or not I want to use your sudden openess to accept much higher percentages of White Mexicans as an oportunity to ask you: do you agree now that sources such as the World Factbook who report percentages as low as 9% (or your edits from last month to the article [13][14]) are completely disconnected of reality?. Pob3qu3 (talk) 00:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Nope, the 10% figure is the most accurate one. Mexico never had anywhere near the post independence European migration that the USA or South America had. The 40% figure is the one completely disconnected from reality. Also, here is the most recent Britannica article on Mexico which states:
"More than three-fifths of Mexico’s people are mestizos, about one-fifth are American Indians, and the bulk of the rest are of European ancestry."
This would have the figure much closer to 20%, not 40% like you pulled out of thin air.
What your last reply proves is that Brittanica does not update uniformly, with no mention that their entry focused ethnic groups alone should take precedence over other entries for the country (that one is also the most recently updated), I don't get why you say that the 40% figure was materialized of thin air when you cited that Brittanica entry yourself[15], you shouldn't ignore Mexico's government surveys whose results range from 29% (similar to Kids Brittanica) to 49% either. Pob3qu3 (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Read the updated intro done by @EvergreenFir themselves. Let me clarify, they wrote this, not me.
"The government releases data on the percentage of "light-skinned Mexicans" in the country, with 12.5% of Mexican people surveyed choosing the three lightest shades in 2017. Using the same skin tone categories, a 2022 survey found that 10.2% chose the three lightest shades."
Evergreenfir acknowledges on her diff that the standard of the government is H-K and that wrote it that way for comparative purposes[16], she also restored the 40% figure recently[17]. Furthermore the talk page of another editor is not the proper place to discuss on this kind of manner, even if that editor is an administrator, I'll see you in the talk page of White Mexicans[18] where I've been waiting for you for more than one month now as you seem to have come full circle with your arguments again. Pob3qu3 (talk) 03:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Have a look
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It is regarding this article. The IP range changed/removed sourced content immediately after the protection (set by you) expired. Please take a look. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hello. I know you must be a very busy person, but, if you are interested and available, I'd like you to take a look at the feminist metaphysics article. I have dedicated myself to expanding it and I believe that your knowledge can help, even if it's with small adjustments. Thanks! 😊 Gmsrubin (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, can revision-deletion be done for this? I feel like it qualifies, but let me know if it does not (as I don't normally make such requests). Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me)12:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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You have prematurely closed the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Unsourced_defamatory_claim_about_Bret_Weinstein. Would you please reopen it? Insofar as I can determine the parties commenting on the issue are ignoring the clear text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD. If indeed the plain text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD does not apply to BLP articles then that carve-out seems to indicate a change is required to the text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD. E.g. "there is no exception to citation requirements specific to leads"
Given Wikipedia's sensitivity to the the integrity of BLP articles, I'd expect that more attention would be paid to compliance with the clear text of Wikipedia polices. RealLRLee (talk) 20:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
No. You are the one who is ignoring (or refusing to hear) the policy. You received multiple opinions, all in agreement. If you think a citation is needed, use the article's talk page to ask for one to be added. There's plenty in the article to choose from. EvergreenFir(talk)20:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
If everyone agrees with one interpretation of policies and guidelines, and agree with a different interpretation at some point you'll have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Insofar as I can determine the disputed lack of citation(s) is in violation of MOS:CITELEAD, MOS:LEAD, and BLP ("All quotations and challenged material must be supported by inline citations to reliable, published sources"). Of course I could be wrong. But, prior to User:EvergreenFir's premature closing of the discussion, I was unsuccessful in eliciting a reasoned explanation as to why those policies don't require the disputed claim to be correct cited or removed.
And now, as User:EvergreenFir preemptively closed the discussion, there is no opportunity to obtain the as yet missing reasoned explanation.
User:ScottishFinnishRadish: l "have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on"? Really? Are you entirely sure that you're being truthful here? As a Wikipedia administrator I would expect that you'd be very attentive to the veracity of your claims. RealLRLee (talk) 21:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure. Sometimes our interpretations, the weight we apply to different policies and guidelines, or simply how we'd like something presented in an article don't have consensus. Happens to the best of us, even me, a vaunted Wikipedia administrator. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
User:ScottishFinnishRadish: Indeed? I'd expect that were you closely adhering to the obligations that Wikipedia places on administrators for veracity and knowledge of Wikipedia policies then your "[I] have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on" would have been written, instead, "[I] have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on [or pursue the matter further via Wikipedia's dispute resolution mechanisms]".
If, User:ScottishFinnishRadish, I am misunderstanding the expectations that Wikipedia places on administrators then please explain how I'm getting this wrong.
Indeed! I'll have you know I'm the Heimlich county substitute administrator of the year three years running.
You've already discussed this on the talk page and BLPN. That's about as solid as consensus comes without a well attended RFC. Wasting a bunch of editor time pushing for more and more dispute resolution when there's a clear consensus isn't worthwhile. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
I am a new Wikipedia editor but my girlfriend, who has some expertise in these matters is pleased that her tutoring has her none-too-bright boyfriend not looking like a neophyte.
She predicted that my habits of careful reasoning would bestir some of the people involved in Wikipedia editing. The constraints of WP:GOODFAITH prevent me from quoting her specific comments on this matter.
For instance, Usage by extremists and terrorists of 'Allah Akbar', portrayed as a cinematic trope. Check out almost every Wikipedia article on the Quran - they sanitize or avoid the contentious elements.
@Kelator: I don't understand what you're saying. That new users get banned for editing on that one page? Because from the edit history, it's all one user with different accounts. Speaking of which, do you have a previous account? EvergreenFir(talk)23:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
If you can not understand what I am saying, then it is no wonder, Wikipedia's active-editor numbers are declining.
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Heya, hope you're well. I've just noticed that you protected the Graham Linehan page for three months. Is there any way I could convince you to stretch it to an indef, or at least longer? The page has undergone a pattern of "protected for a year/6 months, immediately the same behaviour starts after the protection ends, page is protected again", repeated again and again for about five years. It's almost definitely not going to end any time soon, and because of the subject's anti-trans views I think there's a case for an indefinite semi-protection under GENSEX at this point. No worries if not, just said I'd ask to try protect the article from having the same happen again. Thanks, — ser!(chat to me - see my edits)17:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Latest comment: 1 month ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Hi, I don't think we've interacted before and I hope it's alright that I ask you, but could you delete this revision (contains a slur; no sensitive material or privacy concerns) of the article LGBT rights in Europe if you agree that it meets the RD2 criterion? Felida97 (talk) 22:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)