User talk:E. Brown/Archive 5
Re: award edit
Thanks a lot! You were a great help and inspiration in my early days (wow, feels so long ago). I am just doing what I love here, and if anything I write will be read by someone else, then it's all worth while. Also, my contributions are hardly superior to yours. You always manage to state your mind to remind us knuckle-heads of what we are supposed to be doing. There's no one leading the race right now. There's a lot of us up front, and quite a few ones lagging behind, perhaps pulling us back, but trust me, my shadow doesn't fall on you. :) In honor of that, I award you this barnstar for your unnoticed work in keeping Wikipedia the way it is supposed to be. Well done! Hurricanehink 02:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, and thanks! Hurricanehink 12:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good, only I'd like a bit more facts in it. For example, instead of writing Habitat For Humanity and other non-profit relief organizations lined up to do whatever they could to aid in the rebuilding process, you could write, Habitat For Humanity and other non-profit relief organizations lined up to construct 10,000 (or what the number may be) new homes for families that were affected by the hurricane's landfall, and sprinkle it with references throughout. Otherwise, sounds good. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
archive move edit
I deleted the redirect from the wrong pagename to User talk:E. Brown/Archive 2, in case you wondered where it went. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 04:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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RE: edit
Uhhh...maybe you didn't notice but the English wiki isn't updated on any tools that use the ToolServer anymore (for over a week now) - including interiot's and kates. That is what the flashing text "en.wikipedia.org data is no longer updated" means. I actually have 5100 something edits at this point. (The 2-sec rep. lag that you see is for the other encyclopedias - (french, german, etc.) that are still functioning properly. Weatherman90 00:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- The flashing text is right under the editcountitis can be fatal reference ("en.wikipedia.org data is no longer updated".) You can find a whole discussion about it here. It appears that Interiot's and Kate's or any tool that replicates from the ToolServer will not be working for a very long time. (Me no mislead) :) --Weatherman90 00:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, it wasn't intentional and it came from when they did the last update to the servers. Hopefully they can fix it sometime soon - it comes in very handy when dealing with RFAs. Weatherman90 00:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh and heres the link to my contribs (sorted by groups of 5,000) if you are still reluctant :D
[1] Weatherman90 00:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- I can tell i have over 5,000 by looking at the link I just gave you. As for the 602 edits in a week (well, lets just say that the 4-day easter weekend wasn't every eventful. :) --Weatherman90 00:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, I discovered that a while ago - all you gotta do is just click on one of the options besides the deafult of 50 and then go look at the huge web address and find the part where it says limit=20 or what ever it is and just change that to whatever number you want. It is a real time-saver. Weatherman90 00:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
2005 storms edit
Hey, I was going to submit a mediation request to the cabal a couple days ago, but you went inactive for a bit. In the meantime I have worked on Hurricane Irene (2005) and have now gone over Tropical Storm Lee (2005) again. Those are probably the most useful two to do, as they are respectively the storms with the most and least info respectively of the non-articled storms (before their resurrection). I know you dislike their existence as seperate articles, but given your editing experience I'm sure you could provide positive feedback on improving them. If you want to go ahead with a mediation, could you let me know, and I will get that rolling (with those 2 articles we have the evidence a mediator would need IMO). --Nilfanion 14:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II edit
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List of casualties of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan listed for deletion edit
You're back!!!! edit
Welcome back! Long time no see. Has everything been OK? Hurricanehink (talk) 01:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, got that right. We've missed you! It's fine that you got bored. Everyone deserves a break. I'm sorry that we won't be seeing too much of you, but best of luck with schooling. School should always come first. Best of luck vacationing as well. From one beach goer to another, that's one thing that can't miss. A few new people have popped up as some of the big leaguers, so it's pretty cool. The 2005 debate was settled as every storm having an article. What's worse is that Hurricane Irene (2005) was actually featured. I know I was sort of a proponent for the all articles, but how could they feature a fish storm?! Oh well. Mitch was also featured, and Claudette (2003) is up for FAC. A lot of people have finally started on improving the existing articles, including Storm05. He's done especially well over the last month, and he's ready to be one of the big 5 (or however many of us there are). Incidentally, he also noticed you were gone a little bit back. Anything 2004 and before is basically the entire project. Many users have sort of abandoned the 2005 season, with the notable exception being Nilfanion. It's going to be weird not having your traditionalist ways around here. In that regard, I sort of feel sorry for you. I can't imagine how hard it would be to have everyone against your view points. You got us to compromise on some things. Now, people are getting pretty bold, but things are still good. Happy early birthday! Mine is coming up in July. Yea, there aren't too many of us old-timers left. Those were good times. I feel really old compared to some of the other ones. It feels like Jdorje and I are senior citizens, while there's tons of teenagers roaming through. Now we have a new gang (Me, Jdorje, Rattleman, Cuivienen, Titoxd, Storm05, Nilfanion, CrazyC83, Miss Madeline, NSLE, CapeVerdeWave), some potentials (Icelandic Hurricane, Jake52- Really new but good with images, Thegreatdr), and some enthusiastic and getting there members (Cyclone1, HurricaneCraze32, HurricaneRo). Yes, the amount of active TC users has gone up a lot. The quality of writing for some of those users isn't the best, but they all have some sort of passion for TCs. That's basically what's been happening over the last month. I got nominated to be an admin, but I got scared so I pulled out after about 4 hours. The notability criteria has basically disappeared, partially my fault. I'm sorry if you don't want articles for storms like Jerry, Felix, Odette, or Bonnie, but I still stand that if there's enough information, then there can be an article. Well, it's good to talk to you again. I wish you luck in the future, and I'll talk to you later. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- I saw it. I personally don't see the need for a notability summit. I believe that if there's enough information, then it's fine to have an article. What is the harm in having an article on Tropical Storm Bonnie? There's no duplicated information. The storm did little, but the article is informative. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Just so you know, I am fairly liberal. I proposed a few new ideas on the project that you didn't support, including storm pics and the list of New Jersey hurricanes, and both are in full force now. We simply have different view point. I, for one, believe the season page should be a summary of the season. I know that's different from earlier views, but the season shouldn't go into excessive detail. Also, I'm not 100% for having articles for every storm. The article pages would have the extra detail not worthy to be in the season summary. People interested in hurricanes would look through the "not-notable" articles, but those not particularly interested would be sufficed with a summary in the season summary. My policy for a while now has been, "If there's any more information out there, feel free to add it in". If it's menial information, so be it, but as long as there isn't too much repetitive info between the season summary and the article, I think it's fine. I can't believe I'm hearing you say that. Things are continually getting better in the project. There's more organization, more information, and more people to help out. I'll ask once again. What is the harm in having well-written articles on "non-notable" storms like Bonnie or Felix? Hurricanehink (talk) 03:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Still, I ask, what is the harm in having articles on Jerry, Felix, Odette, and Bonnie? You want to raise the notability issue? I am in favor for it because it allows for maximum organization and information. Having everything in the season article holds back on how much you can elaborate and put in. If you still think there should be a notibility summit, feel free to bring it up at the Wikiproject page. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I was worried about you. Welcome back! -- RattleMan 01:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- My thoughts are mostly the same as Hink's. Your beach condo is in Georgia, yes? Good luck with your upcoming exams, have a great summer, and I'll see you later! -- RattleMan 03:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I know we've had some disagreements, but welcome back anyway, and I'm glad you're alright. :) Happy editing! --AySz88^-^ 04:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, glad to hear you are all right! I see Hink has given you the lowdown on what has happened. I am just about the only editor working on 2005, which is really unfortunate, as I'm basically the only one working substanially on any of the storms at this time. for what its worth on Irene being an FA; I believe its unofficial policy that an article which can survive AfD can be an FA. That means either Irene should not exist as a seperate article or it can be featured; AfD being the forum for "non-notable". Also, it is a non-main page FA, so its not too bad in the long run. As for my position on older seasons, my belief is all Atlantic season articles should have a storms summary like 2004s (2004 isn't perfect, I think a seasonal impact (Florida) is sensible). In theory I believe any tropical cyclone is article worthy, but lack of information will kill any attempt at taking that back into the 20th Century. Personally, I'm not going to attempt to create any articles when I escape 2005; but switch over to improving existing articles.--Nilfanion (talk) 07:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow...senior year of high school as your last year of youth? As someone that is 33, and went through 4 1/2 years of college, I can tell you that is not the case. Maybe the senior year of college is a better yardstick for the end of youth...most people have much more fun in college than they could in high school, mainly because you're essentially on your own. Nowadays, what passes for youth seems to extend to at least the age of 24. Some of us never get/feel old. There's no such thing as acting your age, in my opinion. Thegreatdr 16:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - May 2006 edit
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Article formatting edit
Dear Tropical cyclone editor,
As a member of the Tropical Cyclone Wikiproject, you are receiving this message to describe how you can better tropical cyclone articles. There are hundreds of tropical cyclone articles, though many of them are poorly organized and lacking in information. Using the existing featured articles as a guide line, here is the basic format for the ideal tropical cyclone article.
- Infobox- Whenever possible, the infobox should have a picture for the tropical cyclone. The picture can be any uploaded picture about the storm, though ideally it should be a satellite shot of the system. If that is not available, damage pictures, either during the storm or after the storm, are suitable. In the area that says Formed, indicate the date on which the storm first developed into a tropical depression. In the area that says Dissipated, indicate the date on which the storm lost its tropical characteristics. This includes when the storm became extratropical, or if it dissipated. If the storm dissipated and reformed, include the original start date and the final end date. Highest winds should be the local unit of measurement for speed (mph in non-metric countries, km/h in metric countries), with the other unit in parenthesis. The lowest pressure should be in mbars. Damages should, when available, be in the year of impact, then the present year. The unit of currency can be at your discretion, though typically it should be in USD. Fatalities indicate direct deaths first, then indirect deaths. Areas affected should only be major areas of impact. Specific islands or cities should only be mentioned if majority of the cyclone's effects occurred there.
- Intro- The intro for every article should be, at a minimum, 2 paragraphs. For more impacting hurricanes, it should be 3. The first should describe the storm in general, including a link to the seasonal article, its number in the season, and other statistics. The second should include a brief storm history, while the third should be impact.
- Storm history- The storm history should be a decent length, relatively proportional to the longevity of the storm. Generally speaking, the first paragraph should be the origins of the storm, leading to the system reaching tropical storm status. The second should be the storm reaching its peak. The third should be post-peak until landfall and dissipation. This section is very flexible, depending on meteorological conditions, but it should generally be around 3. Storm histories can be longer than three paragraphs, though they should be less than five. Anything more becomes excessive. Remember, all storm impacts, preparations, and records can go elsewhere. Additional pictures are useful here. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its peak, use a landfall picture in the storm history. If the picture in the infobox is of the storm at its landfall, use the peak. If the landfall is its peak, use a secondary peak, or even a random point in the storm's history.
- Preparations- The preparations section can be any length, depending on the amount of preparations taken by people for the storm. Hurricane watches and warnings need to be mentioned here, as well as the number of people evacuated from the coast. Include numbers of shelters, and other info you can find on how people prepared for the storm.
- Impact- For landfalling storms, the impact section should be the majority of the article. First, if the storm caused deaths in multiple areas, a death table would work well in the top level impact section. A paragraph of the general effects of the storm is also needed. After the intro paragraph, impact should be broken up by each major area. It depends on the information, but sections should be at least one paragraph, if not more. In the major impact areas, the first paragraph should be devoted to meteorological statistics, including rainfall totals, peak wind gusts on land, storm surge, wave heights, beach erosion, and tornadoes. The second should be actual damage. Possible additional paragraphs could be detailed information on crop damage or specifics. Death and damage tolls should be at the end. Pictures are needed, as well. Ideally, there would be at least one picture for each sub-section in the impact, though this sometimes can't happen. For storms that impact the United States or United States territories, this site can be used for rainfall data, including an image of rainfall totals.
- Aftermath- The aftermath section should describe foreign aid, national aid, reconstruction, short-term and long-term environmental effects, and disease. Also, the storm's retirement information, whether it happened or not, should be mentioned here.
- Records- This is optional, but can't hurt to be included.
- Other- The ideal article should have inline sourcing, with the {{cite web}} formatting being preferable. Always double check your writing and make sure it makes sense.
Good luck with future writing, and if you have a question about the above, don't hesitate to ask.
Hurricanehink (talk) 19:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #1 edit
The Hurricane Herald
This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary of the activities of the WikiProject over the past month and upcoming events over the next month. In addition monthly tropical cyclone activity will be summarized.
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Storm of the month
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Other tropical cyclone activity
- Tropical Storm Aletta existed in the eastern Pacific Ocean from May 25 to May 29, peaking as a 45 mph tropical storm.
New and improved articles
- New storm articles include: Typhoon Joan (1970), Hurricane Bonnie (1986), Tropical Storm Matthew (2004), Storm of October 1804, Typhoon Chanchu (2006) and Cyclone Olaf.
- New non-storm articles include: Tropical cyclone rainfall climatology, Dvorak technique and List of Bangladesh tropical cyclones.
- New Featured articles: 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, Hurricane Mitch, Hurricane Irene (2005) and Hurricane Claudette (2003)
- Articles which became A/GA class: Hurricane Katrina (A), Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans (A), Hurricane Felix (1995) (GA), Cyclone Percy (A), Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 (A), List of New Jersey hurricanes (A), Hurricane John (1994) (A), Tropical Storm Isabel (1985) (GA), Tropical Storm Odette (2003) (GA)
New articles and improvements wanted
- An article is requested on subtropical ridge
- The current collaboration of the fortnight is Hurricane Gilbert, please help improve this article.
- Improvements are requested to Indianola Hurricane of 1886, Hurricane Camille and Hurricane Andrew.
- The WikiProject is likely to submit Hurricane John (1994) and Hurricane Katrina to Featured Article Candidates in the near future, so please help improve them to featured standard.
Member of the month
The May member of the month is TitoXD. The WikiProject awards this to him for his brilliant work in improving articles. TitoXD joined the WikiProject in October just after it had been founded. Since then he has contributed substantially to many articles, for example Hurricane Nora (1997), which is currently a Featured Article Candidate. He is also actively involved in the assessment of articles and so helps to improve many more articles.
Explanation of content
If you have a topic which is not directly related to any specific article but is relevant to the WikiProject bring it up on the Newsletters talk page, and it will probably be included in a future edition of The Hurricane Herald.
These two sections are decided by the community on the newsletter's talk page:
- Storm of the month: This is determined by a straw poll on the page. While all storms will be mentioned on the newsletter, the selected storm will be described in more detail.
- Member of the month: Nominations are made on the talk page, voting is by secret ballot; read the talk page for details. The winner receives the WikiProject's barnstar (when we make it).
Main Page content
- 2005 Atlantic hurricane season appeared on the Main Page as Today's Featured Article on June 1.
- Hurricane Floyd will appear on the Main Page as Today's Featured Article on June 17.
- Entries from Dvorak technique, Typhoon Joan (1970), Typhoon Chanchu (2006), and Storm of October 1804 appeared on the Main Page in the Did you know column during May.
- Entries from 5 other articles relating to tropical cyclones had appeared in the Did you know column earlier in 2006.
Storm article statistics
| Grade | April | May | June |
|---|---|---|---|
 FA
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7 | 7 | 10 |
 A
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4 | 5 | 7 |
 GA
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0 | 3 | 5 |
| B | 62 | 66 | 82 |
| Start | 154 | 177 | 168 |
| Stub | 13 | 12 | 10 |
| Total | 240 | 263 | 282 |
| percentage ≥Less than B |
69.6 | 71.6 | 63.1 |
The assessment scale
- The cyclone assessment scale is one of the bases of the new assessment scale for Version 1.0 of Wikipedia. It splits articles into several categories by quality, to identify which articles are "finished" and which ones still need to be improved.
- The assessment scale by itself counts of several grades:
- FA: reserved for articles that have been identified as featured content only.
- A: this grade is given to articles that are considered ready for Wikipedia:peer review. The way to get this grade assigned to an article is by asking other cyclone editors at the WikiProject's assessment page.
- GA: reserved for articles that have passed a good article nomination.
- B: these articles are "halfway there", and have most of the details of a complete article, yet it still has significant gaps in its coverage.
- Start: articles that fall in this category have a decent amount of content, yet it is weak in many areas. Be bold and feel free to improve them!
- Stub: these articles are mostly placeholders, and may in some cases be useless for the reader. It needs a lot of work to be brought to A-Class level.
- The way to use these assessments is by adding a parameter to the WikiProject template on the articles talk page ({{hurricane|class=B}} as an example). This feeds the article into a category which is read and parsed to create an assessment table, summary and log.
I award you edit
ALL HAIL WIKIFREEDOM
Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - June 2006 edit
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Hey edit
Hey, just want to give you some feedback. I love your tastes in music. And political views, but don't tell anyone else that. Aaрон Кинни (t) 02:52, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Aah! edit
Hey, welcome back! Glad you had fun down there, and I'm glad the tropics didn't effect you too much. Thanks for the congrats. Actually, I'm turning 18 in 3 days, so I'll be young for a freshman in college. --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Cool, I'm glad you enjoyed your break. I spent the usual amount of time for school as everyone else. I'm just a bit young for my age. I guess you're a bit old for your age. Enjoy the rest of high school. It's a great in-between time. Yea, hopefully Bilis won't be too bad. Luckily Ewiniar was extratropical when it made landfall on South Korea. The last typhoon to hit the area caused a lot of damage. The EPAC is getting active, too. TD-3 just formed, and another TD is possible soon. The Atlantic is usually quiet at this time of year. Remember, this isn't last year, and this is still July. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be upset when we only have 1 Cat. 5, 3 major hurricanes, 8 hurricanes, and 16 tropical storms (my prediction, btw). So, now that you're back, what are your plans for Wikipedia? As you might have seen on my user page, I'm still in to getting articles to FA, which means Charley or Pongsona is next on my list. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yea, we have Hurricane Bud and TD-4E now. Yea, predictions aren't smart, but they can be fun. Glad to hear your todo list, and good luck finding your lost links. Are there any particular articles you are looking forward to doing? True, the Atlantic always has surprises, but you can generally tell if anything is going to happen or not within 3 days. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, you're right, that snuck up pretty fast in the last day. I wish you luck for the Atlantic hurricane seasons. A lot of seasons need a lot of work, basically from 1492 to 1992 :) Hopefully those 500 years won't take too much work. However, it's good that you're focusing from 1979 onward. They have a lot of data, compared to previous years, but not much of that data is on Wikipedia. --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey, welcome back Eric. Nice to have you back. -- RattleMan 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Help!, other useres are trying to delete my article but I objected saying that the plane crash is notable. Please vote keep on the vote page in order to save this article.Storm05 16:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: Award edit
No problem, You deserved it being the leader in the campaign for Wikifreedom. I would have added "Happy Birthday", but I didn't know. So, Happy Belated Birthday. →Cyclone1→ 23:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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