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  You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you insert unsourced pseudo-history and original research into an article, as you did at Gangwar. Wikipedia is not a platform to glorify your caste/community - please maintain encyclopedic standards. utcursch | talk 17:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Whatever information is provided in this article is based on historical facts and even many of the wikipedia articles validates contents written here. Hope that wikipedia editors will certainly acknowledge my contributions on this topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ds gangwar (talkcontribs)
The information that you are adding is pseudo-historical synthesis. The content on Ganga dynasty includes historical facts, but the dynasty has absolutely no connection with the Gangwars. Please take some time to read Wikipedia guidelines on reliable sources and no original research. Also, please stop adding your own name and list of other IPS/IAS officers to the list of notable Gangwars. You're not notable. If you continue to add pseudo-historical hoaxes and your own name to the article, you'll be blocked. utcursch | talk 17:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for persistent violation of Wikipedia:No original research policy (esp. WP:SYN), and addition of non-notable names (including your own) to the article Gangwar. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  utcursch | talk 19:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

You've been blocked for 1 week for following:

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Request reason:

It is baseless allegation that I have used my own name in the wikipedia on Gangwar community. My name is Dheerendra Singh gangwar and I never mentioned this name on this or any other page on wikipedia. As far as link of Gangwar with the Gang Vansh or Ganga Dynasty is concerned it is a historical fact and even no anthropologist from any India University can contradict this fact. We always had a remarkable position in history as Gang Vansh, Rashtrakuta, Maratha and Kurmi Kshatriya. Even many of the royal houses including Gwalior, Baroda, Satara, Nagpur belongs to Kurmi caste and they were the Greatest Royal Houses during British period. Whatever information was given by me, was based on historical facts and from our rich ancestral traditions. Hope that you will respect my version and restore all the historical contents about Aryan Kshatriya Clan Gangwar. Gangwar community was always considered as a Flag Bearer (Lambardar) Clan of Aryan Culture. Thankfully yours Dheerendra Singh Gangwar

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Sorry about the confusion over your name (DS Gangwar), but you have still added other non-notable people from your community to the page, despite being told not to.
Anyway, the main issue is your persistent violations of WP:NOR and WP:RS. Wikipedia is not a place to boast about "Aryan Kshatriya" / "Greatest Royal" ancestry of your caste.
The history section in your version of the article cites 13 references, none of which even mention the Gangwar community. In short, these are fake references, and what you call "historical facts" constitute a hoax.
There is absolutely no reliable source linking Gangwars to Eastern or Western Ganga dynasties. The source cited by you (kamat.com) doesn't even mention Gangwars. Wikipedia has well-sourced articles (e.g. Origin of the Western Ganga Dynasty), and sources given in these articles don't mention the Gangwars either.
It's same with your other claims, such as Rashtrakuta/Maratha ancestry, establishment of Gaharwar kingdom (actually a Rajput kingdom), claims of defeating Afghans and Pathans etc. All these claims are unsourced, or based on fake references.
As advised earlier, please take some time to read Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. utcursch | talk 19:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well utcursch, I never added any name on this except renowned politicians and buerocrates specially, IAS and IPS officer holding senior positions in administration. Wikipedia articles on Western Ganga Dynasty and Origin of the Western Ganga Dynasty clearly indicates indicates that founders of this royal house migrated from Ahichatra, in Bareilly District an ancient seat of Ikshwaku Vanshi Kshatrya and they joined he campaigns of King Samudragupta into southern India.

There are many documents proving a direct link of Gangas of Talkad and Rashtrakutas [1].

History of Kannauj, Badaun and Kampil also indicates that one branch of Rashtrakutas moved towards North and established some Kingdoms in these cities. [2]

Rathores of Badaun, Having matrimonial relations with Gangwars of Faarukhabad and Bareilly are heirs of Same Rashtrakutas and also call themselves a member of Kurmi Kshatriya Caste. So,if anybody from wikipedia stillhas doubts about our claims regarding History of Gangwars he must go through some more documents to declare facts as Hoax. One thing more, Gangwars in Bareilly and Rampur come fromtwo separate Kshtriya Kul 1. Gang Vansh Santosh Gangwar 2. Yadu Vansh Bhagwat Saran Gangwar[3]

Hope that you will understand these issues. I never posted anything that can be classified as Hoax or baseless. It is all history and need to be promoted in public interest. It is just a misfortune of our people that India did not participated in Genome project to prove their ancestral History.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User::Ds gangwar|:Ds gangwar]] ([[User talk::Ds gangwar|talk]] • contribs)

Once again, see Wikipedia:No original research. None of your sources on Ganga dynasties mention Gangwars. And none of your sources on Gangwars mention either of the Ganga dynasties. Any connection is purely your conjecture. You're completely making things up, even on this page (e.g. the articles Western Ganga Dynasty and Origin of the Western Ganga Dynasty don't even mention Ahichatra or Bareilly. And even if they did, Gangwars are not the only caste that resides in Bareilly.) One final time: Wikipedia is not a place to glorify your caste using pseudo-historical claims. utcursch | talk 20:44, 8 November 2014 (UTC)Reply


Utcursch,

Some Important links that validates my claims are as follows 1. Regarding Gangas it is clearly mentioned that these people came from Ahichhatra. [1] Even The Capital Town of Gangas was named as Gangawadi[2]. During last 1700 years, many things changed and so the name, from Gangas to Ganharwar and then to Gangwar (in Marathi). 2. Gangas marched once again towards north under the Rashtrakuta flag. An inscription of the Chalukya dynasty of Lata, dated 1050 A.D. associates the Rashtrakuta dynasty with Kannauj. During 1089-90 A.D. Chandradeva the first Gahadavala king of Kannauj ruled and have protected the sacred places of Kushika (Kannauj)[3]. It is also found in some inscriptions and copper plate instructions [4]found in Badaun and Kampil[5]. 3. Marathas in Rohilkhand: The first invasion of Maratha on Rohillakhand took place on 1751–1752, The Marathas were requested by Safdarjung, the Nawab of Oudh, in 1752 to help him defeat Afghani Rohilla. The Maratha force left Poona and defeated Afghan Rohilla in 1752, capturing the whole of Rohilkhand. Rohilla were defeated badly and their whole area was Ransacked by Maratha, Later the Maratha resold Rohillakhand to Zabita Khan.]

In 1772, Marathas, led by Mahadji Sindhia[6] defeated Zabita Khan of Rohillkhand and the fort of Pathargarh was completely looted by the Marathas in the form of horses, elephants, guns and other valuable things, which the Rohillas had looted at Panipat.

My all contributions to the Gangwar page were based on concrete historical facts. I understand that wikipedia is not a place to glorify any social group but it must welcome genuine and authentic contributions. Thank you very much for your cooperation. regards Dheerendra Singh Gangwar

Again, none of your sources even mention the word "Gangwar". You might as well claim that "The word Gangster is similar to Ganga. There are gangsters in both Gangetic plains and South India. Therefore, the gangsters must be descendants of Ganga dynasty". Please read up the Wikipedia guidelines on original research and reliable sources while you are blocked. utcursch | talk 18:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ https://archive.org/stream/gangasoftalkad035344mbp/gangasoftalkad035344mbp_djvu.txt
  2. ^ http://www.thehindu.com/2004/01/24/stories/2004012407180300.htm
  3. ^ http://farrukhabad.nic.in/ancient.asp
  4. ^ The Rashtrakutas of Manyakheta gained control over Kannauj for a brief period during the early 10th century (Thapar 2003, p333)
  5. ^ http://kannauj.nic.in/history.htm
  6. ^ "The Great Maratha: Mahadaji Scindia - N. G. Rathod - Google Books". Books.google.co.in. Retrieved 2012-11-12.

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