User talk:Coren/Archives/2014/August

I have deleted my page

I deleted the American ratings cause I didn't want you to get confused and alot of errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BasicallyIdowrk (talk • contribs) 16:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Sheridan Barnett

Thanks for the note. The page now in mainspace is a duplicate of a page in my Sandbox where I've tested the page. It (my sandbox) will be deleted shortly so this is not a copyvio. Thanks. Libby norman (talk) 10:38, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Curious false positive

This is a rather interesting false positive: diff. It appears that the source page and the page the bot considers a copyvio are the same. Could it be an issue with the apostrophe? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:26, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

It almost certainly is. That niggling bug has been plaging CSBot for over six years, with no plausible solution in sight: there are annoying issues caused by the apostrophes and the numerous ways they can be encoded (and mangled) by the Mediawiki API, the search engines, and the actual pages (and it doesn't help that different URIs, because of that, can lead transparently to the same content with no visible redirection). The net effect is that while we've been able to greatly reduce the number of false positives, we'll almost certainly never managed to remove them entirely. Thankfully, the tireless volunteers that patrol pages marked by the bot are considerably smarter than the bot itself and quickly notice the errors and remove the tags. — Coren ^(talk) 10:33, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

• Ah, I see. I agree. Based on the wiki text of the bot's post, it's how the symbols are represented (such as ')... but this would mean parentheses and other punctuation marks would be affected too, as well as non-Latin scripts... something I'm not familiar with. Thankfully it's known well enough. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

  The bot is actually mostly good enough to work around most punctuation and rarely gets confused my "mere" parentheses; but single quote marks have extra-magical status and need ungodly amounts of escaping to pass through many tools leading many websites to over-escape it in odd ways, hence the confusion. — Coren ^(talk) 10:50, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Interesting. Can't believe I just came across this in four years of fairly active editing (including several created articles with "catapostrophes". — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:00, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

    It rarely gets triggered: you need the unlikely combination of a title with a confusing apostrophe escape and have it be picked up by a search engine fast enough that it'll end up in the search results by the time CSBot gets around to searching for it. I found it more likely if the title already existed before (presumably, the engines notice the return of a page faster) but it even happens sometimes on brand new pages. — Coren ^(talk) 13:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

    • Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep that in mind the next time I see CorenBot post something like that. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:17, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Possible mirror

CorenSearchBot recently found copied/pasted material from this page in William Burke Belknap. However, the entirety of that potiori.com page was copied/pasted from a version of Belknap, Louisville (which had copyright violations of its own, but that's a separate matter). Here is another page on potiori.com that was copied/pasted from a version of Louisville, Kentucky. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 13:41, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

MBC Bollywood

Dear,

I hope you are keeping well, I am assigned by MBC Group to Updating and Creating wiki content related to MBC Group (Middle East), you can contact me for verification and further confirmation, as for the mirrored content, it is provided by MBC Bollywood Marketing department.

--Issa.younis (talk) 15:33, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Something mixed up?

Please see [1], thanks. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes indeed. I managed to swap the tabs between the perp and the victim! <facepalm/> My goof should be fixed by now. — Coren ^(talk) 15:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Difference between Prismatic compass and Surveyor Compass

Hi, search bot what contents of this article were copied from YouTube. This article was written from surveying text books of S.S BHAVAKATTI and C.L Kochher. I think you are malfactuning. Take a rest. Owais khursheed talk

We placed information on a new page, Ronald L. Dirsmith, that was originally posted on Container Corporation of America's site as part of the Chicago Film Archives Collection. It inter-relates both sites with a common archival film collection by the Chicago Film Archives. Thank your for the question. This is our first attempt at this procedure and is quite a challenge.Dirsmith2 (talk) 03:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Bot not picking up the WP clone kiwix.org

See History of Mosul: instead of detecting a WP:COPYWITHIN, your bot concluded that this page is a copy of a WP clone. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 10:39, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Media Viewer RfC arbitration case - motion to suspend case

You are receiving this message as you have either commented on a case page or are named as a party to the case. A motion has been proposed to suspend the Media Viewer RfC arbitration case for a maximum of 60 days due to recent developments. If you wish to comment regarding the motion there is a section on the proposed decision talk page for this. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs). Message delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 02:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

FYI

Hi Coren! Did you see that you're mentioned on User:Dispenser/Toolserver migration? GoingBatty (talk) 23:07, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Just to make matters clear: [2]. So, while he's being - strictly speaking - accurate, that does not paint the whole picture. — Coren ^(talk) 23:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response! I hope everyone involved can resolve the situation quickly and amicably. GoingBatty (talk) 23:45, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

copyright?

Hi, an automatic message came that the page I was creating was copied from its topic's website. When I reformulated the phrases, it still denied to upload it, so I don't know what to do. How much of the content can be formed the same way as it was in another website (which is among the references)? Do I have to find completelly different grammatical solutions, too, or is it enough to replace the words with synonimes? Since the content of the original website was carefully created, it is pointless to create a complettely new introduction to the same subject on wikipedia (especially because I am not a native speaker of English, so it would be unneccessarily hard to ask this.) thank you!

Edendiss (talk) 14:36, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Edendiss

Bugzilla:54164, again

Any update for that bug?--GZWDer (talk) 15:30, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Text Copyright - Wikipedia article: The Mugshots

hi, I am Mickey from The Mugshots band.

the text I copied from this page: http://www.mtv.com/artists/the-mugshots/biography/ is the official biography (written by our friend Mack Maloney) of The Mugshots, we use it on The Mugshots' website, on the Mtv website, on Facebook, Reverbnation, we use it via email, we print it and so on. it's public domain since a couple of years, I can guarantee.

please remove the notice, as we are not infringing any copyright.

thanks for understanding.

best regards

Michele Savoldi (Mickey E.Vil) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coatlx (talk • contribs) 16:07, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

That's now how it works. That some text is widely available does not make it in the public domain, only an explicit dedication can do that. Unless and until you have a clear license that the text is freely available, then it cannot be used on Wikipedia. Please read the guide to donating your own copyrighted material to Wikipedia. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren ^(talk) 17:11, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

@Coatlx: Specifically, the notability criteria for musicians and ensembles and Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide might be appropriate. GoingBatty (talk) 01:59, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Copyright

See what I wrote at Talk:Love Bug (Raffi) for important info. Georgia guy (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC)