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AfC question
Hi Chicdat - just saw your note on the AfC request for "2024 Republican Presidential primaries." Given, at some point in the next four years, that standalone page will be created, I was wondering what standard is used to judge whether it is ready for creation at any specific time. As in, how will an editor know the time is appropriate to migrate the page from its current home on 2024 US Presidential Election to a new, standalone page?
Thanks! --Mihir.pethe1 (talk) 20:11, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- Probably sometime in late 2023. It's really much too early to tell. Relevant reading: WP:TOOSOON. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:21, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 21:42, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank you! The same to you 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 13:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Request on 05:37:51, 4 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hockeydogpizzapup
Hockeydogpizzapup (talk) 05:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@Hockeydogpizzapup: See above. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Owen
Have you got a reason for not wishing to present the updated 1-min winds from the JTWC in the infobox? BTW You still need to work on that MH - even more so now that the JTWC has presented their BT and called it subtropical in the latter parts of its life. Jason Rees (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry. I sincerely thought that the BoM was the primary TCWC in the Australian region. However, yes I will improve Owen. See that I am adding the advisories? 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 14:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- The BoM are indeed the primary TCWC but we include the JTWC's information and their 1-min winds, as they are a notable warning centre who even used to name tropical cyclones. Yes I have seen that you have added some of the JTWC advisories in.Jason Rees (talk) 14:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- I should note that the BoM and the majority of the RSMC/TCWC's use 10 min winds, the IMD uses 3-min winds, while the JTWC & NHC use 1-min winds.Jason Rees (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- The BoM are indeed the primary TCWC but we include the JTWC's information and their 1-min winds, as they are a notable warning centre who even used to name tropical cyclones. Yes I have seen that you have added some of the JTWC advisories in.Jason Rees (talk) 14:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Ayana Evans - New York Times article, what else?
Hi Chicdat! Thanks for reviewing my submission on Ayana Evans. I had it reviewed by another user in the Teahouse who helped me reorganize and add more sources. They thought it merited publishing and helped me move it out from the draft to published - if this was malpractice I am sorry.
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A note on sources: Currently, the New York Times feature (which is SOLELY about the artist) is the most notable source, in addition, I have listed top tier art publications (Artnet, Hyperallergic) and a number of blogazines where the artist is mentioned. In addition to important awards and conferences, and museum exhibitions she has participated in an upcoming book and her position at Brown University.
I appreciate you reviewing this as you are specialized in women in the arts and I know that it is hard for them to met Wikipedia's criterias and want to help change that!
To the point: What specifically is missing? Should I cite her only as an artist (which sources strengthen) and not an educator? PLease give me some direction.
Thanks for your help!
ADDED: Thanks Chicdat for your swift response and feedback during this process. Cheers to more female artists on Wikipedia and wiki community members like yourself keeping submission quality high! Matriarch-info (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Matriarch-info (talk) 13:14, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Matriarch-info: I declined it because at that time it did not meet Wikipedia's guidelines. It has been nearly a month now, and since then, you have greatly improved it. I believe that now, it is ready for mainspace! 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 13:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi again, the article is being considered for deletion. Can you help make sure that doesn't happen? Or let me know what needs to be done? Thanks! Matriarch-info (talk) 00:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the cookies, Shift674! I appreciate them. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
What a quick wikibreak. Welcome back to Wikipedia, Chicdat!
MarioJump83! 02:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. It was supposed to be several weeks. But then when I saw the AfC backlog... 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Owen
I made a mistake. I shouldn't have recommended Jason Rees, who is tough on you regarding Cyclone Owen. I want to let you know that LightandDark2000, who I just nominated for MoTM and it is likely going to win it, is willing to give a help. He came back from WPTC inactivity recently, and he's nice. I even pinged him, but I removed that ping once I saw you taking back your statement. MarioJump83! 11:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Didn't you see my (most recent) comment? I am. I'm going to make Owen a GA, even if it takes me a year. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're doing it by myself without help? I want to wish you luck! I hope with your best efforts Cyclone Owen is GA! If you want any advice, just ask me or LightandDark2000, he's quite helpful so far! MarioJump83! 11:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Excuse me @MarioJump83: but I am not being tough on @Chicdat: and am trying to guide them into bringing Owen up to scratch but all I keep seeing are excuses for not taking our advice, reverting our edits and not looking at other articles for ideas on how to write it. Hell, I even rewrote a bit of the MH in order to try and encourage them.Jason Rees (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay... I hope, hope this doesn't repeat all over again. MarioJump83! 12:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- You're doing it by myself without help? I want to wish you luck! I hope with your best efforts Cyclone Owen is GA! If you want any advice, just ask me or LightandDark2000, he's quite helpful so far! MarioJump83! 11:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
AfC submission
Hi Chicdat, please don't randomly submit AfC drafts when they aren't complete just yet. Thank you. MarioJump83! 02:14, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wasn't trying to submit them; I was trying to clear Category:AfC submissions without an age! 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi chicdat I wanted to bawk to you about my cool article I'm working on
Hi chicdat I wanted to bawk to you about this cool article I'm working on. back in 2005 I tried to create articles sometimes. It has been a while since I did that. I couldn't believe there was not a Wikipedia article about the traditional religious song, "This World Is Not My Home." I think it would be fun to write a good one. I would love to see it grow. it'd also be fun to see if others can help it grow.
I just feel like I'd love to read a good article about it and there is a lot that is interesting about it to me. can I bawk to you about ways to make it better?
- Sure, you're welcome to bawk to me all you want. Anyway, let's think about the page first. Most song articles at least have some sections. It might not be so much not notable as "too short, not enough references". For instance, you should add a "Lyrics" section. Readers probably do not know the lyrics. You might also find it useful to have a "History" section, which would include most of what you've already worked on. Also useful would be a "See also" section which would link to related pages. Do that, and I (or another reviewer) will be sure to accept it! 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Hockeydogpizzapup (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC) haha great ideas. thank you!
Hello, how are you? I have been reviewing all the instructions for about 4 months and made changes on this article.
I make the necessary arrangements on the article text
In the source links I added Turkey Ministry of National Education Links to national and international news agencies scientific article links non-governmental organizations url are available. I would be glad if you help me in this regard Thank you for your understanding greetings Emremer (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- The article looks better now. You're welcome to resubmit it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
The capture of Mers el Kébir being made up?????
I don't even understand where this comes from. Mers el Kébir was captured in 1505[1][2][3], that article i sent in to review was directly translated from Spanish and i added a few citations to it. Please explain why a historical event which caused Spanish rule over the city for nearly 300 years which was only broken once (1708-1732) before it's reconquest (1792) is made up.
Whatever748 (talk) 04:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I'll re-review it. Maybe there was an error. I couldn't see the references. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
References
References
- ^ Muzaffar Husain Syed; Syed Saud Akhtar; B D Usmani (14 September 2011). Concise History of Islam. Vij Books India Pvt Ltd. pp. 452–. ISBN 978-93-82573-47-0.
- ^ T.A. Morris (11 September 2002). Europe and England in the Sixteenth Century. Routledge. pp. 567–. ISBN 978-1-134-74819-8.
- ^ Sir Robert Lambert Playfair (1881). Handbook to the Mediterranean: Its Cities, Coasts, and Islands : for the Use of the General Travellers and Yachtsmen. J. Murray. pp. 10–.
45th edition of Hurricane Herald!
The Hurricane Herald: Wikipedia's 20th Anniversary and New Year's Special Edition!
The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from December 1, 2020–January 15, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are MarioJump83, Hurricanehink, Destroyeraa, Chicdat, Typhoon2013, CycloneFootball71, Hurricane Noah, LightandDark2000, Cyclone Toby (editor's pick for member of the month), Skarmory, Shift674, and HurricaneCovid. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include:
Typhoon Ike was also promoted from GA to A-class article. Member of the month (Editor's Pick) – Cyclone Toby Cyclone Toby first joined Wikipedia in July 2020 as I like hurricanes. Since then, they have become one of the most active editors, taking the initiative of fulfilling article requests, as well as helping us work on finishing many drafts we have. These articles include Hurricanes in Hispaniola, Hurricanes in Nicaragua, and Hurricanes in Honduras, as well as helping out getting Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas (a long-standing draft that took many efforts to get it published to mainspace) nominated for GA, as of this writing. There are more articles Cyclone Toby is currently working on other than the ones previously listed. Also, Cyclone Toby is one of the kinder members of WPTC, actively welcoming many new editors that edited articles under WikiProject Tropical cyclones banner, as well as inviting some of these editors to the project, in which their influence ended up bringing more editors to WPTC without any invitation. We thank Cyclone Toby for work they have done in the past year, which was a horrible year for many of us, but Toby is one of many bright spots that helped us get through that year. As we enter the new year, we encourage Cyclone Toby to keep up their work and eventually complete these drafts, which will ultimately lead to the clearing of the backlog of drafts within the project.
From December 1, 2020 to January 15, 2021, there were no articles promoted to Featured Article status.
There is currently one featured article candidate:
For the next steps of the 2018 Global FT project, we're likely to finish the 2018 Pacific hurricane season FT by the end of the year. Hurricane Bud (2018) is likely to become a Featured Article (FA) around the first anniversary of the 2018 Global FT task force, which will be in June 2021, while Hurricane Olivia (2018) is the most likely FAC next in line. Sooner or later (which might happen before Bud or Olivia is FA), Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season will be completed, and subsequently nominated for Good Article (GA) status. After that, 2018 Pacific hurricane season might be nominated for Featured Topic (FT) before the timeline or the article is nominated for FA, based on the likely order of completion provided by Hurricane Noah on December 22, 2020 with some changes due to priorities after that time. We also began to focus more attention on the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season FT, as evidenced by Hurricane Beryl and Hurricane Chris (2018) becoming GAs by the time of this issue of The Hurricane Herald, as well as the merger of Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael into Hurricane Michael (despite the merge moratorium which was enacted in November 23, 2020 - this was made possible by getting the consensus for an exception to the merge moratorium), which boosted the prospects of Hurricane Michael becoming a GA by the time of the next issue or the following one. Our next step in the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season FT, as it is currently planned right now, is to have Hurricane Leslie (2018) promoted to a GA. In the Western Pacific, the creation of Effects of Typhoon Mangkhut in the Philippines is still being planned out, while Cimaron, Trami, Kong-rey, and Son-Tinh are in line to be nominated for GA later on - and Jebi may well become a FA by the next issue. In the North Indian Ocean, Cyclone Titli was recently created and likely to be expanded later on. In the Southern Hemisphere, Cyclone Owen is currently being worked on to become a GA someday, while Berguitta, Josie, Keni, and Liua are still under construction. For the Mediterranean, Cyclone Zorbas will be expanded upon and nominated for GA, some time after this issue.
If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to Hurricane Noah or any other member of the 2018 FT task force. WikiProject To-Do
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Storm of the month and other tropical activity for December through January 15, 2021 Storm of the month for December – Cyclone Yasa Afterward, Yasa underwent an eyewall replacement cycle as it neared Fiji, causing the storm to weaken. Early on December 17, Yasa made landfall on Bua Province on Vanua Levu, as a powerful Category 4-equivalent tropical cyclone on the SSHWS (Category 5 severe tropical cyclone on the Australian scale). Following landfall, Yasa quickly weakened, dropping back to tropical storm-equivalent status within two days. Afterward, Yasa moved in a southward direction while continuing its weakening trend, falling below tropical cyclone status on December 19, and dissipating on December 24. Yasa killed 4 people in Fiji and left another person missing. As of this writing, the damage estimates for Yasa are still being calculated, but Yasa had caused extensive damage on Vanua Levu, likely becoming the most destructive tropical cyclone to strike Fiji since Winston in 2016.
Storm of the Year 2020 – Hurricane Eta Eta was a powerful and long-lived hurricane that devastated Central America in November 2020. The twenty-ninth tropical depression, record-tying twenty-eighth named storm, twelfth hurricane, and fifth major hurricane of the extremely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, Eta originated from a vigorous tropical wave in the eastern Caribbean Sea on October 28. On October 30, the system organized into Tropical Depression Twenty-Nine, before becoming a tropical storm on the next day, at which time it was given the name Eta by the National Hurricane Center (NHC). On November 2, Eta became undergoing rapid intensification over the western Caribbean, as it progressed westward, with the cyclone ultimately becoming a Category 4 hurricane on November 3. Later that day, Eta reached its peak intensity, with 1-minute sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 922 mbar (hPa; 27.23 inHg), it was the third-most intense November Atlantic hurricane on record, behind the 1932 Cuba hurricane, and Hurricane Iota, which struck the same region just two weeks later. However, satellite data suggests that Eta may have reached Category 5 intensity at the time of its peak intensity, since reconnaissance aircraft failed to sample the hurricane's strongest winds at the time of its peak intensity. Despite this, in their post-storm report, the NHC maintained Eta as a powerful Category 4 hurricane. Six hours after reaching its peak, Eta underwent an eyewall replacement cycle, causing the storm to weaken somewhat. At 21:00 UTC on November 2, Eta made landfall south of Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, with maximum sustained winds of 140 mph (225 km/h) and a central pressure of 940 mbar (hPa; 27.76 inHg). Following landfall, Eta rapidly weakened to a tropical depression by 00:00 UTC on November 5. Despite the mountainous terrain, Eta's low-level circulation survived, and Eta retained tropical depression status for another day, during its two-day trek across Central America, before degenerating into a remnant low overland later on November 5. On November 6, Eta's remnant low moved north over water and regenerated into a tropical depression, before turning towards the northeast. Afterward, Eta reorganized into a tropical storm over the Caribbean on November 7, as it accelerated toward Cuba. On the next day, Eta made landfall on Cuba's Sancti Spíritus Province as a tropical storm, before quickly emerging into the Atlantic and turning westward. Over the next five days, the system moved erratically, making a third landfall on Lower Matecumbe Key in the Florida Keys, on November 9, before slowing down and making a counterclockwise loop in the southern Gulf of Mexico, just off the coast of Cuba, with the storm's intensity fluctuating along the way. Afterward, Eta turned north-northeastward and briefly regained Category 1 hurricane strength on November 11, before weakening back into a tropical storm several hours later. On November 12, Eta made a fourth landfall over Cedar Key, Florida. Eta weakened after making landfall, before eventually re-emerging into the Atlantic later that day. Afterward, Eta became extratropical on November 13, before being absorbed into another frontal system off the coast of the Eastern United States on the next day. In all, Hurricane Eta killed at least 211 people, left 120 people missing, and caused at least $7.9 billion (2020 USD) in damages, with the vast majority of the deaths and damages occurring in Central America. Just two weeks later, Central America was struck by Hurricane Iota as a high-end Category 4 hurricane, making landfall near the same location as Eta, which further exacerbated the disaster in the region. Member of the month (edition) – Jason Rees Jason first created an account on Wikipedia in August 2006, after tracking Hurricane Katrina and countless other storms in 2005. Since then, he has written four featured articles and 21 good articles. Recently, Jason has done great work expanding and cleaning up Cyclone Yasa, one of the strongest storms ever recorded in the South Pacific basin. He is also an active content creator, currently writing Cyclone Meena. Overall, Jason has done an outstanding job expanding the scope of tropical cyclone articles in the Southern Hemisphere basins, such as the South Pacific, where there is, sadly, a shortage of active users. We want to thank him for his wonderful work, and thus award him the Member of the Month award for this edition. New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions! A year in review: WPTC's accomplishments in 2020 2020 has been a hard year for many of us. Depending on where you live, the COVID-19 pandemic began as early as January. In most of the world, the pandemic ramped up in February and March, reaching its first peak in April–May. A second wave struck in June–August, which saw cases dramatically increase across the globe, while the third and largest wave began around October. However, during this pandemic, through lock-downs and online learning, as well as the the insanely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, our WikiProject saw a huge influx of new editors showing interest in editing tropical cyclone articles. Here, we will take a look at the stats: New WPTC members since January 1, 2020: AC5230, CycloneFootball71 (Previously Weatherman27), Chicdat, Hurricaneboy23, Chlod, Destroyeraa, NOOBSKINSPAMMER, HurricaneMichael2018, JoeMT615, MarioJump83, Buttons0603, Robloxsupersuperhappyface, ChessEric, Allen2, Mazum24, Modokai, CodingCyclone, Gumballs678, Janm 7, Cyclone Toby, Hurricanehuron33, Hurricane21, TornadoLGS, Iseriously, Jupiter50, ARegularWisconsinite, CyclonicStormYutu, ARay10, Gex4pls, Nioni1234, Dannisom, HurricaneCovid, Skarmory, Moline1, HurricaneIcy, Beraniladri19, HurricaneEdgar, Miguel 04012010, Cyclonetracker, Dam222, Hi 022828, Elijahandskip, TovarishhUlyanov, Animem 1, Shift674, Super Cyclonic Storm Corona, ThePelicanThing, FinnTheHurricaneFanatic, 8medalkid, Vida0007, TFESS, Doge1941, Tropical Storm Angela, HurricaneKappa, KingLucarius, Hurricanestudier123, 2 0 D a r t h S a n d M a n 0 5, iBlazeCat, FuturPDUCTIONS, SputtyTheSputnik, AveryTheComrade, Poxy4, SovietCyclone, Gummycow, Chong Yi Lam, German2k2k, Wikihelp7586, StopBoi, Final-Fantasy-HH, TheActiniumSpoon, Ididntknowausername, New GAs since January 1, 2020: Hurricane Erin (1995), Typhoon Halola, 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Kirk (2018), Effects of Hurricane Wilma in Mexico, Hurricane Audrey, 2018 Atlantic hurricane season, 1916 Pensacola hurricane, Paleotempestology, 1934 Atlantic hurricane season, 1916 Virgin Islands hurricane, Cyclone Indlala, Typhoon Cecil (1985), Meteorological history of Hurricane Florence, 1929 Bahamas hurricane, 1938 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Olga (2019), 1923 Atlantic hurricane season, 1893 San Roque hurricane, 2006–07 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season, Typhoon Zeke, Typhoon Amy (1991), Typhoon Yunya (1991), Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Caribbean, Typhoon Sarika, Typhoon Warren, Typhoon Holly (1984), Typhoon Eli (1992), Typhoon Alex (1987), Typhoon Irving (1982), Tropical Storm Bolaven (2018), Tropical Storm Sanba (2018), Tropical Storm Nanmadol (2017), 2018 Pacific hurricane season, Hurricane Dolores (2015), Typhoon Percy (1990), Tropical Storm Ampil, Typhoon Jebi (2018), Tropical Storm Ewiniar (2018), Hurricane Barry (2019), Tropical Storm Bertha (2020), Tropical Storm Arthur (2020), Hurricane Chris (2018), Typhoon Louise–Marge, Cyclone Ava, Hurricane Beryl New FAs since January 1, 2020: Tropical Storm Ileana (2018), Cyclone Chapala, Racer's hurricane, Hurricane Humberto (2019), Tropical Storm Zelda (1991), Hurricane Lane (2018), 1916 Texas hurricane, Hurricane Willa, Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian, Tropical Storm Vicente (2018), Hurricane Hector (2018), Hurricane Walaka Sockpuppetry in WPTC, by LightandDark2000 Due to recent incidents involving sockpuppetry within WPTC, I invited some editors to address the problem of socking inside the project. MarioJump83! Sockpuppetry is a serious offense committed by various users on Wikipedia. Our own WPTC is not immune to this travesty. WPTC has seen its fair share of abuse from serial vandals and LTAs throughout the years. From 2013 through 2018, IPhonehurricane95 vandalized dozens of tropical cyclone articles and created more than 200 sock accounts. For several years, mostly spanning a two-year period from 2013 to 2014, IPhonehurricane95 defaced numerous tropical cyclone articles, mostly ones that he had once contributed to, were major storms, or were storms in an active tropical cyclone season. He also attacked essentially every single active editor on WPTC at the time, and he went on to attack every single Admin and CheckUser who had ever blocked him, in addition to making making racist remarks and threats of harassment. He eventually went cross-wiki, forcing the intervention of Stewards. In July 2014, he began including graphic 9/11 images in his vandalism, which further damaged the image of the project. IPhonehurricane95's vandalism inspired several copy-cat vandals, including one who has continued to plague the project to this day. This is a problem with LTAs and serial vandals – those who aren't stopped quickly enough and early on often bring bad publicity to the project, in addition to elevating the risk of copycat inspiring knock-offs. In 2016, IPhonehurricane95's socking spree dramatically decreased, with the LTA disappearing in 2018. Sockpuppetry on WPTC has not been nearly as bad since then, but sockpuppetry persisted on WPTC afterward, even to this day. Recent LTAs that WPTC had to deal with include Fly High in the Sky and Wyatt2049, and possibly Evlekis, with the later two engaging in a campaign of vandalism claiming fake Category 5 upgrades (or Category 0 downgrades) "from God" that attracted a lot of bad publicity. Recently, some users dabbled with socking, which got them into trouble. With the recent breaches of trust on WPTC and the confirmation of socking by CUs in several of the newer members, some members of WPTC have called for WPTC members to be vetted by CUs. In the past year alone, a few editors who had recently joined the project came out as sockmasters who went on to become LTAs, further adding to the pressure on WPTC. Personally, I feel that the newer users who joined within the past 6 months with a history of disruption should be examined by a CheckUser, but long-standing CU policy is to not investigate anyone unless there are serious allegations of sockpuppetry (with evidence). This policy exists for good reason, and these requests for blanket CUs may very well be turned down, if proposed. Sockpuppetry is not only bad for the reputation and integrity of the project. It is also harmful to the well-being of editors on the site, especially when they become the targets of attacks. In addition, sockpuppetry breaks the trust of the community when the said offender is a trusted and valued member of the community, no matter the level and duration of the offense. Those editors have to work hard to regain the trust of the community, and in some cases, trust may never be restored. Perhaps equally as bad, sockpuppetry leads to false accusations of the practice and claims of intentional bad faith against both reformed ex-sockpuppeteers and non-socking editors alike. This further damages the reputation of the site, while unnecessarily inflaming tensions between editors on the project and damaging the cohesion between the community. These aspersions also hurt well-meaning editors on the site, and can have the unwanted consequences of embittering them or prompting them to go into retirement. While there are users on WPTC who are dedicated to rooting out and combatting vandals and sockpuppeteers on the site (including some who are a part of the Counter-Vandalism Unit), this is a responsibility that the entire project needs to bear as a whole, since socking is an issue that affects the entire project in one way or another. Editors should be willing and able to investigate potential cases of socking and other types of abusive behavior, while maintaining good faith at the same time. Sockpuppetry is serious issue and an ongoing challenge to the project. Equally as bad are unfounded allegations of the abuse against editors with a long-standing history of being a net-positive. However, together, as a community, we can combat this menace to safeguard the integrity and accuracy of WPTC articles, and make Wikipedia a healthy, productive environment. ~ LightandDark2000 🌀 The Renewal and Growth of WPTC, by LightandDark2000 WPTC had its humble beginnings in the early days of Wikipedia. The WikiProject was founded by Jdorje on October 5, 2005, during the heart of the record-breaking and devastating 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. The founding of WPTC provided a place for editors who had an interest in tropical cyclones to collaborate. Over the next few years, dozens of users flocked to WPTC, growing the ranks to over 60 active members by 2011. This was the first generation of WPTC editors, many of whom had been active on Wikipedia within a few years of its founding in 2001. The first WPTC editors worked hard on improving the quality and quantity of tropical cyclone articles, attaining 100 Good Articles (GAs) and several Featured Articles (FAs) by January 2007. The number of existing TC articles grew each month, with the project boasting 1,000 articles by January 2008. However, as the years passed by, long-time members of the WPTC gradually began dropping out. Reasons included entering college, a busy work schedule, loss of interest in the subject, and retirement from Wikipedia, among other reasons. By January 2011, more than 120 members had either become inactive or had left Wikipedia entirely. By the end of the year, WPTC membership had hemorrhaged to the point where roughly 19 users remained in the WikiProject. As of this writing, the first 13 members on the WPTC roster can be considered the remaining "core" of this first generation that has stayed with the project throughout the years. But the initial WPTC Golden Age was over. The flow of new recruits fell off sharply, and overall interest declined. WPTC would remain at this reduced level of membership and activity for years to come. More users continued to join the WikiProject over the next several years, albeit on a significantly reduced scale. Even then, the vast majority of the work done on tropical cyclone articles were largely carried out by a "core" of roughly a dozen experienced editors who stayed on with the WikiProject throughout the year, even as tropical cyclone activity shifted between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. However, this reduction in the numbers of active users meant that many more articles ended up being neglected, or suffered from reduced quality. The flow of new GAs and FAs slowed down, and new FACs almost ground to a halt. Some long-time editors, such as Hurricanehink, continued to hammer out TC articles, while recruiting and mentoring new members. The second generation of WPTC editors began showing up in 2013 through 2016, including Nova Crystallis, Typhoon2013, Master of Time, KN2731, and me. (I had edited on Wikipedia for several years before then, but I wasn't officially a part of WPTC prior to 2014.) While new editors continued to join each year, others kept on leaving, and the size of the roster remained around the same size. On a Featured Article review, one of the reviewers even remarked that WPTC was no longer as lively as it once was, with much of the activity having died down. Working on WPTC grew depressing at times, with some of the active editors moving on to other topics when their basins of interest went inactive (usually when the northern hemisphere seasons came to an end). Articles suffered from quality control and content issues in numerous places, especially articles on storms outside of the North Atlantic and East/Central Pacific hurricane basins, where most of the activity from experienced editors was historically concentrated. Articles for storms in the Southern Hemisphere were the hardest-hit, with only a few editors, such as Jason Rees, continuing to work hard on them year-round. As usual, the vast majority of work fell on a tight-knit group of roughly two dozen editors, most of whom were senior editors who had been present since the early days of WPTC. At times, I wondered whether I would ever see the day in which we would have enough active editors on our roster to bring WPTC back to its former glory. From 2016 to 2018, more users joined WPTC, including ChocolateTrain, Hurricane Noah, and MarioProtIV, some of whom would later play a key role in revitalizing tropical cyclone articles or WPTC on some level. In 2018, Hurricane Noah helped restructure some of the internal dynamics of WPTC, including the creation of specific task forces for certain topics and also designing a new award system, in order to help motivate WPTC members and also to help coordinate the work between other editors more effectively. That same year, he kicked off a massive campaign to get more articles to GA and FA status, By late 2020, more than two dozen articles had been brought up to GA or FA status, and WPTC saw its first potential Featured Topic Candidate in more than 6 years (the 2018 Pacific hurricane season). After 2019, the number of new members gradually increased, and activity picked up across the WikiProject. A third batch of new editors showed up between 2018 and 2019, tripling the WPTC roster to 60+ active members. These editors included FleurDeOdile, CycloneYoris, EBGamingWiki, Sandy14156, SaiTheCyclone, DavidTheMeteorologist, JavaHurricane, and others. In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic struck. Despite the ensuing lockdowns and other fallouts from the pandemic, WPTC saw an explosion of new editors that same year. This 4th generation of editors was, by far, probably the largest influx of new membership that WPTC had ever seen. By the end of the year, the active membership roster had exploded from 69 to 124 active members. Our newer members from 2020 include AC5230, CycloneFootball71, Chicdat, Hurricaneboy23, Chlod, Destroyeraa, MarioJump83, ChessEric, Modokai, CodingCyclone, Cyclone Toby, TornadoLGS, HurricaneCovid, Skarmory, and many, many others. The wait was finally over. New life had been breathed back into WPTC. It was almost as if the good old days of the WikiProject were starting to return. While we've had our ups and downs this year, the influx of new editors infused WPTC with much-needed new blood and also helped relieve the senior editors of some of the burdens they've had to bear for years. Our hope is that the vast majority of these new editors will stay with us going forward, even as tropical cyclone activity cycles on and off across the world. Even after the pandemic-related lockdowns end. In closing, I want to thank my fellow WPTC editors for my experience. When I first started as an IP editor on Wikipedia more than a decade ago, I never imagined that WikiProjects existed, not to mention one specifically tailored for tropical cyclones. I had a rough start here, with a bitey reception from most of the others who communicated with me, while also struggling to learn some of Wikipedia's fundamental policies (particularly citations). However, I eventually eased into the place and the others warmed to me, and my proficiency in editing improved as I spent more time on Wikipedia. The truth is, whenever I came under pressure in other areas of Wikipedia, whether it is from hounding, witch hunts, attacks, or other hostile behavior, I've always retreated back to WPTC. Why? Because I've always felt much more welcome here. And safe. In some ways, WPTC has become my home on Wikipedia. I've gotten so much more out of here than I had expected to as well. My time on Wikipedia helped sharpen my writing (and typing) skills, which was a rather nice bonus. I've also made a number of new friends here (some of whom I've grown rather close with), all of whom I enjoy working with. Thank you, all of you, for everything. Thank you for showing me what the Wikipedia experience should be like, and thank you for being willing to befriend me. I look forward to continue working with you all and growing with you in the years to come. May you all have a wonderful 2021! ~ LightandDark2000 🌀 My stress, by MarioJump83 Hello, this is my first opinion piece on Hurricane Herald as MarioJump83. In this opinion piece, I want to explain why I'm not as active as I'm hoping for in recent weeks. I do not plan to ever make this opinion piece at all, but I had to speak out about my issue with my activity in order to balance this edition of Hurricane Herald as well as to prevent attempts at adding my work-in-progress opinion piece to this issue because I'm planning to package that opinion piece with a long-finished but unfortunately delayed opinion piece. I want to apologize for delaying my work-in-progress opinion piece numerous times, given there are numerous issues about it, one of which (stress) will be addressed in this opinion piece. Since last December, I have repeatedly have been on semi-wikibreaks. Wikipedia, as I know it, is a serious business. I was no longer the "nice guy" when I got my MoTM. Stress has been building up as I faced college exams as well as my father's stroke which happened on December 17, 2020. I attempted to break this semi-wikibreak once as I requested to change my name from SMB99thx into MarioJump83 for a breath of a fresh air (some days before that I requested deletion of my userpage for the same reason), and did some AfC reviewing spree in January 2 and 3. But as it turns out, it was quite a failure as three AfC submissions I accepted ended up being in jeopardy, with me trying to save the last one standing. I think these experiences ruined my chance to become a permanent new page reviewer, pushed me back into my semi-wikibreak once more and I had to enroll myself into New Page Patrol School in hopes of getting back into what I wanted. As such, I decided to commit into content creation as I was granted page mover rights (temporary) on January 4. As of now, I'm trying my best to come out on this second semi-wikibreak, bringing myself out of trouble that I didn't intend to participate in and planning to become autopatrolled some day as the college exams are winding over. Wish me and my family for the best in the coming weeks, anyone! I'm hoping that it will happen after the release of this issue, if not later. By the way - even when I'm still stressed - I am going to wish everybody Happy New Year and Happy 20th Wikipedia anniversary! (Don't forget that we also reached edit number 1,000,000,000!) |
Hello, Chikdat! Thank you for reviewing the draft for Dr. Andre Waismann I've been working on. Please advice as some of your requests are not clear to me As to the citations tags, I totally understand and I will work on adding additional sources or removing poorly confirmed info. But this message is obscure to me: "This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject." Could you please, detail, which parts are not neutral? I basically listed the facts without using any words related to emotional characteristics. Or did you mean the same information that wasn't properly cited? אור פ (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- I can't find any at all anymore. You should resubmit it. Since technically I'm now WP:INVOLVED, I won't review it again, but I'm sure someone else will. And if it's accepted, remember this: Many of our best articles started as mere AfC drafts. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
CoVLP
Just wanted to send a note that your rejection of CoVLP was incorrect, as it is a subtopic of COVID-19 vaccine, not the same topic. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
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Keep at it with Owen, ok? You'll make it eventually! Just follow the advice of Jason, MarioJump, and Hink and you'll do fine. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 16:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you. I know that one day Owen will become GA, but sometimes I become frustrated about how long it's taking. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Deniz Unay
Hi chicdat I spoke with experienced editors on the Wikipedia online support chat page. I took all necessary warnings into consideration and reviewed my source links. Creating a wikipedia page is really difficult and confusing for a living person. But if you study the article Government agencies Science article references National and International news agencies and resources Non-governmental organizations In addition, when Deniz UNAY's works in many fields are searched on google, the results Assign a lot of work and living in Turkey also signed article published nearly one in 15 languages I hope you will re-examine it taking into account all my efforts greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 11:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've accepted it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat, you shouldn't have accepted this draft. It was highly promotional in nature, and the creator is suspected to be an undisclosed paid editor in violation of the Terms of Use of the Wikimedia Foundation. For now I've cleaned up some of the fluff. Please be mindful of such drafts in the future. Thanks. JavaHurricane 14:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
hello Chicdat I wrote you about my article today Subsequently the article was accepted and approved But within a few hours I got this warning and I'm shocked I really can't believe i don't mind In a previous review that was rejected, it was called copy content. then corrected back i hope this is a mistake This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. (February 2021) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 14:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I encourage you not to reply to this message per WP:DENY. The draft has been placed by a user with nigh-unmatched knowledge of undisclosed paid editors, by the way. JavaHurricane 15:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Is this a true vandal? WP:DENY covers "True vandals and trolls..." This seems to me like another poor, misunderstood newbie. With careful coaching, a new editor can be turned around towards good faith. Some users are "block first, ask questions later." If I were an admin, I would use blocks sparingly and try to coach/mentor new editors - like I'm trying to do right now. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Draft is now at AfD. JavaHurricane 04:28, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
pls help me
Hello again I went to the Wikipedia support chat page regarding the latest status of the article, unfortunately, no one helped. In addition, shortly after the article was approved, it received a warning in the form of a paid article and the content of the article began to be deleted. i don't know what to do and i'm very worried can you please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 17:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Emremer. Something sad has just happened. Your article is about to be deleted. There's nothing you can do. But there is one thing. You can create an article on another topic. Like, for instance, improve J Mascis + The Fog. This article. I created it. It got deleted. I moved on. And – I learned. One last thing. I am not an admin. (So many users think I am. Maybe I should run someday.) 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Hii
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniz_Unay My article has been approved I want to say the following about the article I have been working on this article for more than 4 months I took into account all rejections and also got information and support from editors in wikipedia support chat You can see developments on this subject on the Talk Page In addition, the other day, this article was rejected in the form of a copy, and this error was corrected, now the article has been unfairly deleted. There is no charge for this article I don't know how to defend myself on this issue I also added the best resources about Deniz UNAY, if you look at google searches, dozens of valuable resources can be found. Please don't be so cruel and unfair I hope you can help greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 19:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- See my above comment. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Itamar Medical
Hi there, why did you rejected my new draft after I corrected all asked? this is why resubmitting is for, isnt it? Shanisun (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but after enough resubmissions, it eventually comes to the point where the draft is rejected. By the time this happens, usually all hope is lost of the draft becoming an article. I can think of one rejected draft that became an article: Medical Women's Association of Nigeria.
Anyway, in May, Davidwr rejected it. You resubmitted it. I came over to your draft, and I re-rejected it. Now you have submitted it again. I will review it, but if you continue resubmitting it then you'll eventually see it here. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Chicdat, so because it was submitted in the past, than it wont be approved? even though all is corrected and I added many many many more sources so its very "clear" this company qualifies? it doesnt seem fair... at the end the whole point is to give the right chance to a worthy articles, isnt it? what do you want me to do now? did you review it or just reject because of the past? (i'm confused so im trying to better understand). Shanisun (talk) 11:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat also, I think its importent you will know that I am the new head for this article after the person who managed it before, left. Shanisun (talk) 11:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Shanisun, you're a very eager editor, but if you really want help, you should ask at our help desk. The editors there might even be able to accept it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat I have. This is after they help and guided me... Shanisun (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, yes. I'll send you some useful links on your talk page. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat I have. This is after they help and guided me... Shanisun (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Shanisun, you're a very eager editor, but if you really want help, you should ask at our help desk. The editors there might even be able to accept it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) It's not just the sources. You also have problems with the tone. WP:NPOV comes into view. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:44, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat also, I think its importent you will know that I am the new head for this article after the person who managed it before, left. Shanisun (talk) 11:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Chicdat, so because it was submitted in the past, than it wont be approved? even though all is corrected and I added many many many more sources so its very "clear" this company qualifies? it doesnt seem fair... at the end the whole point is to give the right chance to a worthy articles, isnt it? what do you want me to do now? did you review it or just reject because of the past? (i'm confused so im trying to better understand). Shanisun (talk) 11:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- working on it right now. Thank you! Should I resubmit after or ask you first? Shanisun (talk) 12:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Right now, please. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- working on it right now. Thank you! Should I resubmit after or ask you first? Shanisun (talk) 12:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I can fix it no problem.. can you point out please? My aim is simply to get it 100% best and fit. Shanisun (talk) 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- See my comment above, about the help desk? 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bawk to me! I did see it and replied on it. I even chatted on live help chat and did what all asked me. Cant you please try and help since you are the reviewer? Shanisun (talk) 11:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sure! I can help you all you want. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much.. im lost and I dont want past mistakes to hurt the chances... if you can please just tell me whats the problem with the tone, it will be great... regarding the sources, I fixed it for sure and added in depth sources. Shanisun (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Avoid words described in this page. That's about it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Shanisun: Resubmit it right away, please. I will review it again. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:08, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have... I can't breath :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanisun (talk • contribs) 12:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done. I've accepted it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I want to celebrate!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
- You are very welcome. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- I want to celebrate!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
- Done. I've accepted it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have... I can't breath :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanisun (talk • contribs) 12:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Shanisun: Resubmit it right away, please. I will review it again. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:08, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Avoid words described in this page. That's about it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much.. im lost and I dont want past mistakes to hurt the chances... if you can please just tell me whats the problem with the tone, it will be great... regarding the sources, I fixed it for sure and added in depth sources. Shanisun (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Sure! I can help you all you want. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Bawk to me! I did see it and replied on it. I even chatted on live help chat and did what all asked me. Cant you please try and help since you are the reviewer? Shanisun (talk) 11:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- See my comment above, about the help desk? 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Chicdat, can you help me understand which sources led you to accept this draft at AfC please? All of the sources I've spot-checked at random are either press releases or interviews. Which ones have you based notability on? Best, Darren-M talk 10:06, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- None. Shanisun pressured me into accepting it. This is happening again, with Deniz Unay. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:08, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I have sent this back to draftspace. Best, Darren-M talk 13:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- If you are so easily pressured into accepting blatant spam drafts, Chicdat, perhaps you should not be reviewing them. CUPIDICAE💕 15:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- It won't happen again. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Husky (rapper)
Hi Chicdat,
I'm a little confused why the sources provided for Husky don't qualify. I include articles directly about the subject of the article from the NYT, the Guardian, and BBC in the article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/russian-rapper-husky-faces-jail-over-gig-on-car-roof
- Looking back at this link - seems like it might be broken, but here's another link at The Guardian connected to it that vouches for that (something I can fix in the draft too): https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2018/nov/22/moment-russian-rapper-husky-arrested-impromptu-car-roof-gig-video — Preceding unsigned comment added by Бундист (talk • contribs) 19:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-46292459
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/russia-rapper-husky-prison.html
As well as articles from well-known, popular, and independent Russian language news sources (Meduza and Kommersant) on the artist's overall trajectory in the country: https://meduza.io/feature/2017/02/03/pochemu-haski-novaya-bolshaya-zvezda-rossiyskogo-hip-hopa
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4511586
I would love some clarification about why these don't qualify.
Бундист (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- A few of these sources aren't actually super reliable. I don't mean that they're terrible, but that they need other sources to support them. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate on this? The BBC, the Guardian, and the NYT are all listed as reliable sources on Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. How are these not reliable - what standard are you using? Бундист (talk) 17:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am with Бундист in here. These are clear RS. MarioJump83! 03:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Can you elaborate on this? The BBC, the Guardian, and the NYT are all listed as reliable sources on Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. How are these not reliable - what standard are you using? Бундист (talk) 17:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
AWB
It looks like you're doing a lot of semi-automated stuff. You may try to request AWB permissions here: Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser. Note that this is not linked to the adoptee page, just a suggestion. MarioJump83! 01:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I will apply. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:01, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Owen
While Owen maybe an early December tropical cyclone, I do not really regard it as unusual, as it's well within the cyclone season for that region. I also note that we have had Liua, Owen, Rita and Yasa form within the Coral Sea over the last few years before late December which is why I removed it as a trivial fact.Jason Rees (talk) 14:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I see your point. Three consecutive seasons kind of breaks the "rare" part. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Tali Rubinstein
Hello Chicdat,
Thank you very much for taking the time to review Draft:Tali Rubinstein! I have been working on getting more secondary sources, and feel that it's in a pretty good place now and was hoping to get some feedback. Do you think it's in a good enough place now to resubmit? Or do you think it needs more work? I was comparing it to a similar page ([[2]]) and it looks like the sources are as good if not better than this published article. Thanks again! Haveitall07 (talk) 06:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haveitall07, yes! You can resubmit. MarioJump83! 07:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
- Great, thank you! Haveitall07 (talk) 07:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Kuhl irrigation (Himachal Pradesh)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi, I've accepted the draft Kuhl irrigation (Himachal Pradesh). You had previously declined it as lacking reliable sources, which is strange, as the sourcing was excellent as far as I could see. If there's anything in particular that you don't find reliable there, you can tag it with {{better source}}. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm new to reviewing; currently I'm taking a break from it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
46th issue of Hurricane Herald newsletter
The Hurricane Herald
The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the member list. New members will automatically receive this newsletter. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from January 15–February 28, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are MarioJump83, Destroyeraa, HurricaneCovid, CycloneFootball71, HurricaneEdgar, Skarmory, Typhoon2013 (editor's pick for member of the month), and our member of the month, LightandDark2000! Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions, including past MoTMs and SoTMs, can be viewed here. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments
New articles since the last newsletter include:
New GA's include:
I, MarioJump83, the interim coordinator of 2018 Global FT's WPAC squad, feels bad with what is going on as I felt we are taking a step back with the ongoing real-life difficulties regarding important members of our task force. KN2731 had to take a wikibreak because of the compulsory service in Singapore and will likely be gone for two years; Destroyeraa's activities were highly inhibited by multiple illnesses, school exams, "bullying" issues, and series of winter storms this month; Hurricane Noah almost took a two-month-long wikibreak because due to college studies, which Noah is committed to (he also left the WPTC Discord for a couple of months, due to toxicity). I don't really like to take a lot of responsibilities within the 2018 Global FT task force, as I had joined with the intent of helping GA's that involves this year, i.e. like what I did in Cyclone Ava and Cyclone Owen as of now, but with so many of us were forced out of commission due to these problems I mentioned, I and LightandDark2000 had to take much of the responsibility within the task force. Because of this reason, I strongly recommend you, readers of Hurricane Herald, to join this task force to help take pressure off from us. Note that this is not a formal invite, as Wikipedia is free and anyone can edit, but this is what we have to deal with in this current situation, especially because of our real-life problems and commitments. Let's hope that we, including you, can make this through with what we can do!
If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to LightandDark2000 or any other member of the 2018 FT task force. WikiProject To-Do
Storm of the month and other tropical activity for the rest of January and February SoTM for January – Cyclone Eloise Eloise caused numerous disasters throughout numerous countries, specifically, in Madagascar, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Eswatini, and Mozambique. Mozambique was the hardest-hit. In Madagascar, Eloise destroyed 190 homes and caused the death of one person. In South Africa, Eloise caused the deaths of 10 people, four of which were children, in addition to being responsible for making another 7 people go missing. In Zimbabwe, Eloise caused damage and destruction to nearly a thousand homes, some of which were badly affected by Idai two years ago. Three people were also swept away by flooding from Eloise and were presumed to be dead. In Eswatini, over 1,500 people were affected by the storm, two of whom were killed. Eloise also damaged the water system and flooded the gravel roads and low-lying bridges. In Mozambique, the residents compared the cyclone's impacts to Cyclone Idai, which had catastrophically devastated the country two years earlier. This storm caused psychological trauma and mental health crises among the residents of the country. Eloise caused nine deaths in Mozambique, but massive amounts of farmland were flooded, and the storm also damaged over 30,000 houses, the majority of which were destroyed by the storm. 579 classrooms and 86 health centers had to be repaired after the storm. SoTM for February – Cyclone Guambe Guambe caused widespread flooding in Mozambique, which displaced over 27,000 people and worsened the ongoing crisis in the region. Prisoners had to be transferred away from the cyclone because of potential flooding. There were no deaths recorded and damages were unknown, however the worst part of Guambe wasn't there yet. South Africa were also flooded by Guambe, which might have been caused by the secondary low-level circulation center (LLCC) of Guambe. This secondary LLCC had caused Guambe to slow down, which probably had devastating effects on Bazaruto Archipelago National Park's marine life, as 186 Spinner dolphins were probably killed by the storm. After Guambe re-emerged into the Mozambique Channel, no additional damage to human property was reported, thus marking the end of Guambe's impacts on land.
Member of the month (edition) – LightandDark2000 LightandDark2000 joined Wikipedia as an IP editor on May 2, 2009. Although a couple of users encouraged him to make an account early on, he decided to continue editing articles from his IPs for the next few years. He registered his user account in May 2012 and spent another year on Wikipedia as an IP editor, before fully transitioning over to his account in the summer of 2013. He received an invitation to join WPTC in March 2014, which he accepted. Ever since joining WPTC, LightandDark2000 has been a regular editor on tropical cyclone articles and one of Wikipedia's most active rollbackers, putting him on the forefront in the fight against vandals and LTAs, and actively steering the WikiProject out of stagnation. He also defended WPTC from numerous vandals, including the likes of the LTAs IPhonehurricane95 and Lightning Sabre. In late 2014–early 2017, LightandDark2000 largely moved out of WPTC into MILHIST (as well as taking a 3-month WikiBreak in the fall of 2016—due to college work and stress from on-wiki hounding), before returning to WPTC in September 2017, following the devastating landfall of Hurricane Harvey in Texas. From there, LightandDark2000 regularly contributed to tropical cyclone articles, as well as articles on other storms and natural disasters, before taking a series of WikiBreaks in late 2019 through mid-2020, due to college work and real-life activities. However, LightandDark2000 returned in July 2020, just as the extremely-active North Atlantic hurricane season got underway. By the time the last issue of The Hurricane Herald was released, LightandDark2000 had made a full return and was ramping up activity, even as WPTC was beset by a series of problems within its membership, ranging from blocks to stress-induced WikiBreaks. During this time of crisis, LightandDark2000 stepped up very quickly - first, he helped out a number of users who were struggling with personal issues on the WikiProject. Then, he joined 2018 Global FT (currently the Interim Coordinator, with Hurricane Noah and KN2731 stepping aside due to real-life commitments). From there, he conducted his first GA review, which was for Hurricane Beryl. After that, he took on a major role in the writing of the previous issue of The Hurricane Herald, which as of this writing is the biggest issue of Hurricane Herald ever published, at an excess of 50,000 bytes, as well as being the most visually-balanced Hurricane Herald issue since the first issues of Hurricane Herald (if it were to be viewed using a 1920×1080 desktop using Legacy Vector). For these reasons and his contributions to the WPTC in the past, we will finally thank LightandDark2000 for all of his contributions by rewarding him with the Member of the Month for this edition. It's quite sad that he didn't get this award since the restart of Hurricane Herald in late 2018 to this day, but now, he has the opportunity to win the award for the first time. We are hoping to see more from LightandDark2000 in the future. For example, he joined the 2021 Cyclone Cup (and also volunteered to take on the role of a judge, if necessary), a new competition for WPTC members based on the WikiCup! New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.
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Special thanks to David Roth, Keith Edkins, Hylian Auree and HurricaneSpin In this section, we want to thank these first-generation WPTC members for being able to stay in here for years before 2020. They (David, Keith, Hylian and Spin) are one of greatest content creators in WPTC history, helping to build and shape WPTC for what it is now today. Without them, we don't know if WPTC would be like today. David Roth's expertise, Keith Edkins' maintenance activities, Hylian's and Spin's content creation skill helped a lot in the early days of WPTC and we hope some of us can replicate what they can do in today's WPTC. Member of the month (Editor's Pick) – Typhoon2013 Typhoon2013 first edited Wikipedia in August 2013, and ever since joining Wikipedia, Typhoon2013 has been one of the most prolific editors in Western Pacific basin. Since last November, Typhoon2013 has been working very hard on getting tropical cyclone intensity lists of Western Pacific basin done, lending a hand in creation of named storms lists of C, P, R, and S (alongside finishing List of named storms (T) which I was unable to complete because of college), as well as finishing storm lists of Pacific typhoon seasons from 1980 to 1964. For the efforts Typhoon2013 has done leading to the publishing of this newsletter, I, MarioJump83, as one of many editors of Hurricane Herald, will be picking Typhoon2013 as the Member of the Month (Editor's Pick) and thank him for his contributions to build a bedrock foundation for the rapidly-growing Western Pacific coverage of the Wikipedia. We wish Typhoon2013 best of luck at college! My experience here on Wikipedia - by Destroyeraa Was planned to be published in 44th edition of Hurricane Herald, however due to some issue (and per Destroyeraa's request), I have delayed this opinion piece further into this edition. At this point, I do not want to see this opinion piece getting delayed further into May 2021 as I really, really want this OP, alongside my OP below to finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. MarioJump83! I created my Wikipedia account on January 18, 2020. I seems so long ago. My first edit was creating my user page, and my first mainspace edit was on Hammonton, New Jersey. My first autoconformed edit was on my userpage. By then, I was editing about myself and roads. My first tropical cyclone edit was on January 30, on Tropical Storm Nestor, which got reverted. I also edited about the coronavirus epidemic before it became a worldwide pandemic. I edited List of United States tornadoes in April 2020, but got bitten on the talk page, though my love for tornadoes kept me editing pages. I also began editing numerous cyclone pages, and joined WPTC on May 19. It was sad that no one noticed that I joined, and no one welcomed me on my talk page for five months already. I submitted my first article, Tropical Storm Bertha (2020), which was accepted. I was still rather new, and mistook Chicdat as an admin. It was June already. Still, no one welcomed me. Finally, on June 5, Hurricanehink took notice of my edits and welcome me! Around the same time, I downloaded Twinkle. I found the CSD function very cool, and I admittedly didn't read WP:CSD and misused it. One month later, I met my first real vandal, which turned out to be a Force Thirteen kid who was messing around changing everything to Force Thirteen without leaving a source or an edit summary, which most people will take as vandalism. It turned out to be pretty rough, and did not end well for both of us. I was still learning at that stage, as shown here. After that, my experience here got much better. Perhaps it was the "learning-the-ropes" phase that is the hardest for all Wikipedians. I created and wrote some good articles, with my first being Hurricane Dolores, promoted on September 24. I also developed a good relationship with many of my fellow Wikipedians, including the editors/writers of this newsletter and many other newer and older users. Then came the sock block. I'll not get into much detail about that, though I will be forever indebted to the countless users who vouched for me and who welcomed me back to the community with open arms. Thank you. I am glad to be here today.~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 My experiences of tropical cyclones and tropical cyclone editing before joining WPTC - by MarioJump83 I planned this OP way back to September 2020, but because of issues with length and college (also even stress - detailed in my previous opinion piece My stress), I decided to delay this opinion piece until now. I also intend to publish this opinion piece alongside Destroyeraa's OP above, thus pushing back the date where I can publish this opinion piece further. Thus I fully apologize for delaying this opinion piece for way too long. I was unable to spend my time on building this opinion piece because of these issues and thus getting this opinion piece complete in time. By the way, this will be the final opinion piece I will write for Hurricane Herald - I'm done with it after two opinion pieces as SMB99thx and two opinion pieces as MarioJump83. It was so much fun creating opinion pieces, but I don't want to have opinion pieces for four straight issues already since the 43rd edition! I'm still editing Hurricane Herald in the future, but not writing opinion pieces any further - ...unless you're inviting me to write an opinion piece in my user talk page, which I'll do my best to comply. Hello, WikiProject Tropical cyclones! I want to tell you about the reasons why I liked and loved tracking tropical cyclones and my experience regarding editing tropical cyclones before I joined this WikiProject. First of all, I have been watching tropical cyclones but on-and-off since 2012. That year, Hurricane Sandy as I remembered it got significant coverage on my country, Indonesia (Badai Sandy). That hurricane was the first tropical cyclone that I had ever known in my life (it's possible that Hurricane Katrina had significant coverage in my country, but I didn't remember anything at all about it), and without it I would never known about tropical cyclones by myself. When that hurricane was about to be finished, I visited the article about 2012 Atlantic hurricane season on Wikipedia, and it was the first article about tropical cyclones that I have ever read on Wikipedia. From that day, my interest on tropical cyclones grew but it was limited to the Atlantic hurricanes only. When 2013 started, if I'm thinking about tropical cyclones I frequently visited 2013 Atlantic hurricane season, and in particular the Seasonal summary section, which drew my eyes into when I didn't edit tropical cyclone articles yet. In November 2013, however, as I'm becoming an uncle of one (now three), Typhoon Haiyan showed up. That typhoon which devastated the Southeast Asian brother country of Philippines caused my interest on tropical cyclones to grow outside of Atlantic hurricanes. Now I'm finally aware of what's happening in Pacific, and it was the first time that I learned that tropical cyclones are everywhere in the world, not just Atlantic. That time, I read 2013 Pacific typhoon season as well as 2013 Pacific hurricane season (I don't remember reading these kinds of articles before that). When I read about it, I also visited 2013 Atlantic hurricane season once again and I was shocked by that it wasn't active! As such, I didn't watch tropical cyclones that much for most of 2014 and 2015. Hurricane Patricia didn't convince me enough to watch tropical cyclones again. In 2016, things changed again that led me to make my first edits on tropical cyclones in Wikipedia. Once Hurricane Matthew came and with it significant coverage on Indonesia that I have never seen since Hurricane Sandy, I finally watched tropical cyclones full-time for the first time. That hurricane was the cyclone that finally got me going for the tropical cyclones (not just the recent seasons, but the older seasons and also SHEM) and my quick-growing interest on tropical cyclones led me to find what made me uncomfortable. That led me to make my first edit on tropical cyclone-related articles in Wikipedia - which was to add Central Pacific to a navigation template about leading tropical cyclones in March 7, 2017. Later that month, I made a second edit, which was to remove a year from a link to Hurricane Omar. These additions are quite "cosmetic" (as said by ChessEric about Hurricane Michelle GA), but soon enough in the next month I found more things that made me more uncomfortable - they are legitimate vandalism. The first edit I made in that month was to revert a vandalism on Hurricane Andrew (I edited it again after that, which was to change mb to mbar). On the next day, I fixed another vandalism in 1954 Atlantic hurricane season. That isn't the end yet, as I found one more vandalism in Hurricane Dennis, and I promptly fixed them. As I'm getting more invested on tropical cyclone articles, I've eventually heard and found out why some articles didn't have (XXXX year) in them - and it is because that they are primary topics. When I see some articles like Hurricane Linda (1997), which I thought they are primary topics (I eventually realized that they are not, and I have not requested moving these articles under WPTC banner ever since), I sought the same treatment in these kinds of articles that I thought was primary topics and thus I requested moves in many of these said articles under that thought. I believed that these requests will garner support by most of the WPTC members (which I thought will think for the same), but never did I know that these requests gained overwhelming opposes, primarily from WPTC members - and they talked to me about it. Of course, I panicked and I have to withdraw some of these nominations. That didn't stop me from editing more WPTC articles, and I started to do these requested moves again soon after. This is probably the most successful things I have ever done through my pre-WPTC membership career in the WPTC realm. After withdrawing some of these nominations, I began to work on a split of 1940–49 Pacific typhoon seasons article by starting the discussion on one in May 14. Two weeks later, as I said before, I started requesting more of these nominations in a batch on May 27 - which was wildly successful (only one of them were failed, and that was Tropical Storm Bret of 1993). In a month after these nominations, and with the consensus for split, I finally worked on the split itself. 1940 Pacific typhoon season and 1949 Pacific typhoon season has been split from the article much more earlier, with Hurricanehink creating an article for the 1940 season in May 23, 2014 and Typhoon2013 split the 1949 section from the article in December 19, 2016. I continued what Hurricanehink and Typhoon2013 has been doing, with copying content from the original article into the respective season articles. First, I reverted them to the original before Hurricanehink merged them. Afterwards, I copied the respective sections from the original into respective articles and removed the respective sections in the original article. From the IDs, you can notice that I did this not in order. Afterwards, I moved the original article into 1941–44 Pacific typhoon seasons without moving it's talk page, which I want to admit was a mistake and made a major ramifications (I even started a RfD, which should not happen) in my attempts to get it back without getting it's talk page removed later in October 2020. Once moving the article, I created redirects for the recently moved article (which includes 1941 Pacific typhoon season, 1942 Pacific typhoon season, 1943 Pacific typhoon season, and 1944 Pacific typhoon season, all of which eventually turned into articles), and quickly changed redirects of the respective storms into the newly restored articles. It was a massive effort that day on June 27, 2017, and the experience that I never forgotten. After that month, I returned into requesting moves once again for the third time, riding on the recent wave of successes. I requested the moves of Hurricane Norman (1978) and Hurricane Liza. Hurricane Liza move request was successful but Norman did not. By that point, the frustration from WPTC members are showing up and by the time I requested moving Typhoon Ida (1958) into Typhoon Ida, I had to be stopped. I also moved Typhoon Pamela (1976) into Typhoon Pamela without any discussion, but you know my intentions by that point, and the move was soon reverted. I had a talk with Yellow Evan regarding these actions, and I soon relented, never requested any moves ever since. I didn't do much for the rest of the year - the most notable moves are moving disambiguation pages Tropical Storm Noru and Tropical Storm Banyan into Typhoon Noru and Typhoon Banyan, respectively. Moving on to the next year, I did not do much once again. Most of the activity that year was working on the most of Tropical Storm Son-Tinh (2018) article. Keep in mind that I plan to return working on that article as a part of 2018 Global FT efforts, and that happened because KN2731 is going to take a break for most of this year. Onto the 2019, I did something that I think planted the seeds for my future MoTM run and vast WPTC growth in 2020. Most of the activity in general involves creating links to the future articles, but I also fixed redirects for most 1930s seasons and created redirects for the rest of 1960s decade for NIO basin. I planned something greater than that, however, but because I had to use my phone and not my laptop (it was broken) I wasn't able to do so. That plan was a factor leading to me joining the WPTC in July 2020 (after I realized about the benefits of joining the WikiProjects) and I began realizing the plan as soon as I got my laptop back. What I did for the most of August 2020 and September 2020 was mostly set in stone back in the previous year, if you don't notice that. If I didn't plan it back in the day, I don't think I would ever got that MoTM (it would have been Destroyeraa most likely). That was a story. It is a long story. It took me pains to get myself established in WPTC, but now here I am. If anyone could have invited me back in the year 2018, I would have rejected it like CyclonicallyDeranged, whom I believe has been driven out of Wikipedia. But coming to this year, I realized the benefits of joining the WikiProjects and now, as said by Hurricanehink, I became a vital editor for WPTC. |
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Your decline of Roger Baxter-Jones
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Hi Chicdat, thanks for reviewing my draft of Roger Baxter-Jones. I have reasonable experience in creating pages and am quite active on AfD discussions so am familiar with what is required, so I was surprised that you declined to publish the page, given it squarely satisfies WP:GNG. I appreciate the workload you'll be under so understand why you provided only a template explanation for your reasons, but the draft indeed includes 5 "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject", including a scholarship in his name at one of the world's most reputable (ie notable) mountaineering associations. The subject existed prior to the internet so sources are limited but those cited are completely satisfactory. Could I ask you to please reconsider or provide more reasoning? Thanks in advance, Cabrils (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please find another reviewer. For the time, I am not reviewing AfC submissions. Thanks, 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Precious
lists of huricanes
Thank you for quality list about cyclones and hurricanes such as list of extremely severe cyclonic storms and list of Category 2 Atlantic hurricanes, for gnomish work such as short descriptions, for your determination about Cyclone Owen, for giving an admin a barnstar, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
You are recipient no. 2559 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- What? Thank you so much! 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:23, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind it comes from the cabal of the outcast. It's so rare that our poor admins get praise, - you stand out! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm an unofficial member of WikiProject Giving Users Barnstars Because They Deserve Them. Admins deserve barnstars because without them, Wikipedia wouldn't exist, and couldn't exist. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agree. You see I am also an unofficial member of that group. Today's precious went again to someone who gave praise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- That's right. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agree. You see I am also an unofficial member of that group. Today's precious went again to someone who gave praise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm an unofficial member of WikiProject Giving Users Barnstars Because They Deserve Them. Admins deserve barnstars because without them, Wikipedia wouldn't exist, and couldn't exist. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind it comes from the cabal of the outcast. It's so rare that our poor admins get praise, - you stand out! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Thoughts
I know I pinged you to this discussion, but since I didn't want to get too off-topic there I just thought I'd say that if you see obvious voting in the "wrong" section, it's generally better/easier to just move it to the correct section rather than essentially striking their vote (or as a third option, ping the user on the talk page and let them know they need to move it). Primefac (talk) 12:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Right after this, the user added another support to the correct place, but did not remove his/her misplaced support. Therefore, I removed it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:37, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Timeline of the 2021 Pacific hurricane season
A tag has been placed on Timeline of the 2021 Pacific hurricane season requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Blablubbs|talk 11:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand this. I've changed the redirect target, Blablubbs. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- That works too. :) Blablubbs|talk 11:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
It is rare indeed to find a person willing to reconsider their position on important topics. Given the conversation and this, I was quite astonished. People just don't do that. Kudos to you for having an open mind willing to consider contrary views! --Hammersoft (talk) 12:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I reconsidered after reading hundreds of comments, Wikipedia:RfA reform, etc. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) ...and I posted this out of sequence, not seeing the barnstar you left on my talk page :) Thank you! I'm always reminded that text based communications are severely limited. If I could write well, I would be a famous author, but alas! I try. It's the best I can do :) --Hammersoft (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- I understand. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Goni vs Yasa
You state that Goni was more intense than Yasa, except offically per the JMA and FMS it wasnt and that's what we have to use on Wiki.Jason Rees (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikibreak Enforcer
You know why I edited your user talk page while my Wikibreak Enforcer is still on - I deactivated JavaScript. This is the trick that Hurricane Noah used to revert his Wikibreak Enforcer. I am not going to do so, as I am planning to continue my wikibreak. Regarding why I decided to log in on this day, this is because I want to help BrownieKing to complete the Draft:Typhoon Vernon (1993), as I did with Cyclone Sarai. That's just a little tip I can tell you about if you happen to be on a wikibreak and decided to go off from wikibreak earlier. I'm going to activate my JavaScript and logging out once more. By the way, you can complete the adopt page without me. When I come back in May 1, I will check. Thanks, MarioJump83! 11:24, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well, I never knew that before. Going back to work on List of Atlantic tropical storms now. --🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
RFCs
RFCs run for 30 days, after which time the bot removes the {{rfc}}. An uninvolved editor still has to formally close the discussion, but the listing itself is removed. In other words, please don't edit war with the bot! More information is at WP:RFC. Primefac (talk) 12:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- And this RfC ran for 30 days. Okay now, an edit war is now 1 revert. Yes, yes, yes... 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- It wasn't a chastisement, I was mainly worried that you would continue reverting the bot and wanted to explain why you shouldn't. Primefac (talk) 16:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Amendments
I appreciate the work in shortening shortdescs, but is "Amendment to the U.S. Constitution" in any way helpful as a description of an article named (for example) "Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution"? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 15:44, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Alright - no. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 20:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Asking for help with the draft of an article you previously declined
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Greetings, Chicdat (talk · contribs) !
Previously you declined the draft of an article I suggested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Qrator.Radar. I did my best to re-write the draft in a neutral style, living out everything that could be even slightly considered a peacock language you referred to. Once again, I revised the sources and made sure only independent, reliable, and public sources are present in the references. If, in your opinion, the current draft of an article is still not good enough, could you please help me with making it more encyclopedic or at least tell me how I could try again to make it better to comply with the Wikipedia standards and rules.
Thank you for your time and effort, Shapelez (talk) 11:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Did you not see the notice at the top of my talk page? @Shapelez: Please contact another reviewer. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar | |
Happy 10,000th edit! Remember, it's not about how many edits you make, but the quality of the edits. I would say your edits have certainly gotten better. I wish I could be on here more these days and join in some collaborations - life gets busy for all of us. Happy editing, and again as always, feel free to reach out if you have any questions, or if you just wanna chat about Wiki. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you for saying that my edits have gotten better! I know that they have, and that I'm a lot more experienced now than when L235 revoked page mover and rollback. (But I still don't have page mover and rollback.) And I display service awards, but I don't want to show them off, so I hide them and use <small>to make them look less showy. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, giving you a ping just so you respond. Hurricanehink 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for what you said for RexxS --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I'm absolutely sure that RexxS wouldn't have disappeared if only ArbCom wasn't so harsh. Poor RexxS, I hope one day he comes back, but if he doesn't, I wish him good look in the real, real world. I'm almost crying... the best editors don't realize that we've lost one of our best editors. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am as absolutely sure that he left before arbcom did anything, harsh or not. See the date when missing began. Arbcom looks detrimental to the interests of the project, in all cases I looked - which admittedly is few, because it's always such a waste of time. I didn't look at this one, because he was gone before it started. I didn't look at Flyer's but saw her retirement statement. Boing! described it best. He - and other best editors (Bish, Giano ...) do realize. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's even worse, he left before anything even happened. The mere fact of having an Arbcom case drove him out of Wikipedia. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's too easy. Not "an arbcom case", but that one, which Boing! described so well (after you, you may have missed that), and he the same (before, and that whole page is worth studying). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I never saw those diffs before. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's too easy. Not "an arbcom case", but that one, which Boing! described so well (after you, you may have missed that), and he the same (before, and that whole page is worth studying). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's even worse, he left before anything even happened. The mere fact of having an Arbcom case drove him out of Wikipedia. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am as absolutely sure that he left before arbcom did anything, harsh or not. See the date when missing began. Arbcom looks detrimental to the interests of the project, in all cases I looked - which admittedly is few, because it's always such a waste of time. I didn't look at this one, because he was gone before it started. I didn't look at Flyer's but saw her retirement statement. Boing! described it best. He - and other best editors (Bish, Giano ...) do realize. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I've been to arbitration, and then I had to look at every bit (including that an arb suggested a user needed to be banned, citing a diff where that user uncollapsed an infobox and placed it in the normal position, and don't think that's an April fool, - and - to make things worse - none of his colleagues objected, his vote made the majority for the banning, and I spent an awful night. Next morning, another arb had changed his vote, saying he didn't want a prolific content editor banned with his vote). I will never do that again: in case I get called to arbitration, I'll not participate. Life is too short. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Shortdesc helper
I have turned it off. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have turned it back on. I care too much about keeping my mainspace total at 60%. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | |
Hey,I've seen your recent contributions on the "Chicken". I actually think they are pretty nifty. ValeAliz 03:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC) |
- @ValeAliz: Thank you. That's the first barnstar I've got for my chicken work. Mostly WikiGnomish, but I appreciate your kindness. Adding that to my (former) userpage now... 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Short descriptions
Hi, thanks for your efforts to add short descriptions to articles that are missing them. I don't know if you've seen the discussion here? Based on the responses so far, you might want to avoid using the word "disambiguation", as it's felt not to be well understood outside the Wikipedia editor community, and hence not appropriate as a short description.
A separate issue is that surname pages are not considered to be dabs at all, and definitely shouldn't have a short description that describes them as such. Surname pages mostly have the short description "Surname list" already, which is created automatically from the {{Surname}} template. You can see it if you're using the Shortdesc helper gadget. The existing wording is fine and doesn't need to be changed. An editor has reverted many of your recent changes on that basis, so you should stop work on that particular task. Regards, MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @MichaelMaggs: Thanks. (When I came up today and saw eighty-two notifications, I was thinking, have I been blocked or ANI'd or something?) Yes, I'm almost always bold in my edits, which leads to a lot of people reverting me. I've enabled shortdesc helper - and made three thousand edits with it - so I see that it was automatically added, but is it okay if I change it to 'Wikipedia list article'? 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat, not for surname articles, as the consensus seems to be that the existing default of "Surname list" is best - which it what it already says in most cases based on the {{Surname}} template.
- If you wanted to work on adding SDs to articles (and I strongly recommend it!) you could try this Petscan search for level 5 vital articles that are missing a SD. Where it says "Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Mathematics", change "Mathematics" to any other section listed at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5 that interests you.
- If you're looking at a page with no Wikipedia short description, the Short description helper will show you instead the Wikidata version. You can tell it's Wikidata not Wikipedia as it gives you an "Import" option next to it. If that looks OK you can just import it, but often the text can be improved, in which case use "Edit and import". See WP:HOWTOSD for advice on writing a good SD. The best place to ask/discuss ideas is at the Wikiproject Short descriptions talk page. Thanks for working in this area! MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I once tried that petscan. It was too enormous for it to load, but I can try again. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- And I succeeded! I have to say, you are a lot better than SuggestBot. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat, thanks! Let me know if I can help as you work through. We are 51.789 % complete, according to the progress bar. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I purged it, and now it's 51.79%. I think I might have added that 0.001 percent. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Chicdat, thanks! Let me know if I can help as you work through. We are 51.789 % complete, according to the progress bar. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- And I succeeded! I have to say, you are a lot better than SuggestBot. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I once tried that petscan. It was too enormous for it to load, but I can try again. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Short descriptions on math articles
You have added the incorrect short description "Type of graph theory" to a number of graph theory articles. I don't think that's what you meant to add; can you please fix? -Apocheir (talk) 23:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have fixed them all. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
flooding the edit request queue
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Chichdat, I have no idea why you have filed so many edit requests such as the one at User talk:BrandonALF/Whatlinkshere.js but these are not needed and are disruptive to the edit request process. Please revert your changes as you are polluting the request queue. 1) Almost all of these are other editor's personal pages - if you want to talk about that page bring it up with the page owner. 2) Your requests are incomplete as they don't specify what is needed to be done. 3) These are not necessary to improve the encyclopedia. — xaosflux Talk 13:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Additionally looking at pages such as User:C5d1582c40616e3581c5f59c8ee11145c5bf6b64bfd6cb687842ecc058225e43/common.css - editing the page isn't even the "best" way to deal with this, assuming it needs to be done at all - the page should be speedy deleted; in such a case you can tag the talk page for speedy delete and note it is for the main page - we have substantially more volunteers that can process the speedy deletion queue than the interface request queue. — xaosflux Talk 14:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Alright. I'm sorry for this, I didn't know it was wrong. Please speedy delete these double-redirect css/js/json pages. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 14:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I nuked all of your requests to clear the protected requests queue, if you need to nominate some for speedy you can do so again (having lots of things in the speedy delete queue isn't an issue). — xaosflux Talk 17:55, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Alright. I'm sorry for this, I didn't know it was wrong. Please speedy delete these double-redirect css/js/json pages. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 14:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Cyclone Owen
Hey Chicdat, I noticed your work on Cyclone Owen and I see the GA is taking a long time. I'm currently wrapping up Tropical Storm Hernan (2020) for one, but as soon as I'm done I could help out on improving or expanding the page if you'd like. JoeMT615 (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- @JoeMT615: Thank you for offering to help with Owen! MarioJump83 (I'm sure you've heard of them, you practically can't be part of the project without doing so) mostly finished up Cyclone Owen for me, but there still are some things I have to fix. If you'd really like to help, a) Talk:Cyclone Owen could be a nice read, as well as giving you some ideas to start off on, and b) Whether we succeed or not, you can count on a Teamwork Barnstar on your talk page afterwards. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, I'm glad to help. I read through most of the talk page (yikes) and then took a look at the to-do section. I've restructured and added to the lead, and will help when I can with the rest. I think once those tasks you listed are done (and we double check the grammar), we should be good to go on re-nominating it for GA. JoeMT615 (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I like how you use "we" to refer to our making Owen a GA. Anyway, did you read the last section? Please be cautious about creating Talk:Cyclone Owen/GA3 just yet, since (as you read) Jason Rees does NOT want me to be another WP:IDHT user. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, I'm just saying we should finish those tasks is all, and we could always get a different reviewer once everything's done to make sure the article's definitely ready and to ensure Jason doesn't think we're bludgeoning it. And of course I'll use "we", I don't want to take sole credit for anything. JoeMT615 (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- What have we done? We have fixed the grammar (that's you), we have expanded the sections (that's MarioJump83), we have created the article itself, (that's me), and we will get the article to GA (that's all of us). 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:22, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, I'm just saying we should finish those tasks is all, and we could always get a different reviewer once everything's done to make sure the article's definitely ready and to ensure Jason doesn't think we're bludgeoning it. And of course I'll use "we", I don't want to take sole credit for anything. JoeMT615 (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I like how you use "we" to refer to our making Owen a GA. Anyway, did you read the last section? Please be cautious about creating Talk:Cyclone Owen/GA3 just yet, since (as you read) Jason Rees does NOT want me to be another WP:IDHT user. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, I'm glad to help. I read through most of the talk page (yikes) and then took a look at the to-do section. I've restructured and added to the lead, and will help when I can with the rest. I think once those tasks you listed are done (and we double check the grammar), we should be good to go on re-nominating it for GA. JoeMT615 (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
Your U2 nominations
Hi Chicdat. I declined all of your recent U2 nominations because they were all redirects pointing to a renamed user's new username. U2 explicitly does not include redirects pointing to a renamed user's new username. There is no need to delete these pages. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 13:38, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- @K6ka: What deletion criterion would apply to these pages, then? 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 09:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- None. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I'll stop trying to get them deleted as part of clearing Special:DoubleRedirects. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- None. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | ||
It appears that you're away, because of exams I believe (hopefully not grounded). Here's me wishing luck to you! I am also going to reminder you that please do not involve yourself in administrative areas until I'm letting you. MarioJump83! 11:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much. Soon I will be finished with that adopting. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank You
@Chicdat:, I am back from the edge of oblivion. I want to thank you for your endorsement. It was very kind of you, and very much appreciated. Cheers! NonhumanAnimalAutonomy (talk) 11:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- @NonhumanAnimalAutonomy: You are so very welcome. Hang on... 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Casque (anatomy)
Hi! I see that the casque (anatomy) article has apparently been deleted. I find it extraordinary that nobody thought to post a courtesy message at WP:BIRD letting us know that this article was up for deletion. Can you please point me to the deletion discussion? I'm curious to see the reasoning behind the delete. Thanks. MeegsC (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- @MeegsC: It was never an article, it looks like. Casque (anatomy) does not show any deletion log. I believe this is why WP:BIRD was not notified. Thank you for letting me know. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I see. So it's actually a page to be created, which explains the lack of a deletion message. There was no deletion! So now I have another question. Why are you unlinking? Please read WP:Red link. MeegsC (talk) 11:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I thought it had been deleted. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- @MeegsC: I've reverted my silly unlinking. The next step is to create the article on it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Chicdat! MeegsC (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- And it's started: casque (anatomy). Lots more to come. ;) MeegsC (talk) 12:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for creating it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- I reverted your changes on the section headers. Those are pretty standard headers; see the GA article Trinidad euphonia, for example. For one thing, the things you had listed as "External links" were actually the article's references. External links are different. (See WP:External links for more info.) MeegsC (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, now I know. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- I reverted your changes on the section headers. Those are pretty standard headers; see the GA article Trinidad euphonia, for example. For one thing, the things you had listed as "External links" were actually the article's references. External links are different. (See WP:External links for more info.) MeegsC (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, thank you for creating it. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- And it's started: casque (anatomy). Lots more to come. ;) MeegsC (talk) 12:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Chicdat! MeegsC (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I see. So it's actually a page to be created, which explains the lack of a deletion message. There was no deletion! So now I have another question. Why are you unlinking? Please read WP:Red link. MeegsC (talk) 11:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)