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kindly review this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvesh_Amte (User talk:shubhamghodke3904)

(talk page stalker)@Shubhamghodke3904:Has this person won any national or international level competitions?--PATH SLOPU 11:52, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

This account(shubhamghodke3904) seems a sock of Sunilbutolia. Am I right?--PATH SLOPU 12:05, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

@Path slopu and Onel5969: I cant tell, but it is unusual for another editor to ask for other editor to ask for review of the article which is not created by them - see here by Sunilbutolia and now again by Shubhamghodke3904 who is the creator of the page. I includes Onel5969 here as Shubhamghodke3904 also ask Onel to review the page. Onel what is your take on this? CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

The editor of the page is (shubhamghodke3904) and I am asking to review just because it has many days since he created that page, previously I created page for Jayant Rajora (skater) both skaters are friends. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 14:43, 6 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

Sunilbutolia We have about 5.7K article waiting to be reviewed. So it is not usual for an article for the article not being review in the first month after the page is created. My question why both you asking for review on the same page? Do you know shubhamghodke3904? CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:47, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't know him personally, but he found me online. Take action as per wikipedia guidelines. Thank you, ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 16:03, 6 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

Sunilbutolia What did you meant by "he found you online" pls elaborate on that. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:13, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi CASSIOPEIA He (Shubham Ghodke) found me on [Jayant Rajora] page then he searched my name on Google, he got my instagram ID on Google, then messaged me on instagram. I can show you screenshot. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 00:58, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

Hi Sunilbutolia, I believe this - Jayant Rajora is the page you mentioned above. If not pls correct me. Also pls forward Instagram URL and screehot as you indicate above. Do you guys have any conversation outside Wikipedia about Sarvesh_Amte or other article? If so pls elaborate please. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

• Hi Cassiopeia, I can't say that I get asked to review articles all the time, but it does happen occasionally. But you're right, this seems a bit unusual for an editor, other than the one who created the article, to ask for me to review it. I don't really have time to look into it over the next few days (you know that thing called real life), but methinks that Path slopu may be correct on this.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:39, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Onel5969 Thank for replying. Did not mean to ask you to review but just to inform you and seeked your thought since editor had asked you to review the article. Thanks again Onel for talking the time share your thought on this matter.03:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

@Onel5969:& CASSIOPEIA:-I suspected the accounts as socks on another reason also- didn't you noticed their signs? Its fonts and styles are too identical. It may not a reason because the styles may copied, but it creates a doubt. Regards.--PATH SLOPU 05:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

@Path slopu: I had noticed prior your message but thanks for pointing it out. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:21, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

look at this screenshot of 5th october,

File:7oct 2019 sunil.jpg

if you find nothing in this screenshot, then I would like to leave wikipedia. I am wondered how do you think about editors?

signature may be copied, I also copied mine from Hindi wiki (Admin Sanjeev) Thank you. ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 07:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbuto

@Sunilbutolia and Shubhamghodke3904:, It seems you guys are connected via some social media contact and I am not sure you both know each other as editor address each other as "brother". I would suggest both of you to communicate anything about Wikipedia in Wikipedia talk page / user talk page / article talk page / project talk page / etc. If you need help anything about editing, go to WP:Teahouse for help. For [[WP:Article for Creation] (draft page) - go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and for general questions go to WP:Help desk, for technical questions go to Wikipedia talk:Village pump and you can type {{Help me|question}} on your talk page and an admin will answer your question at your talk page. Since I am involved in this discussion, I will not review the page but will leave it to other reviewer to look at the article. Kindly be patient as I mentioned before there are 5.7K articles in the reviewing pool at the moment and the average waiting period is about 5-8 weeks. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear CASSIOPEIA, I am satisfied with your answer. I always request you and Onel5969 to review any page, Thank you, ☆★Sunil Butolia (✉✉) 09:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)sunilbutolia

@Sunilbutolia and Shubhamghodke3904:I agree with CASSIOPEIA, please try to confine discussions on Wikipedia in Wikipedia itself rather than other social media (only my opinion, its your choice). If you were mistaken as socks, I apologize. Discussions like this are usual in Wikipedia, it is only for conserving the policies. So don't worry, don't quit editing. I'm confining this discussion here. Also wait for the reviewing as CASSIOPEIA mentioned.--PATH SLOPU 13:03, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear CASSIOPEIA i am extremely sorry, i had copied style of @Sunilbutolia:, so kindly forgive me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user 01:06, October 8, 2019

Dear CASSIOPEIA i am sorry to take help outside of wikipedia , pls forgive me this time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user 01:10, October 8, 2019

Shubhamghodke3904, Greetings. If you need help in Wikipedia, keep the conversation in Wikipedia. There are plenty of helpers in Wikipedia as long as you are civil, polite, many would land a hand to help you. Best. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear CASSIOPEIA you are such a good soul, thanks for your valuable reply, i will follow as have you have suggested me. (User talk:shubhamghodke3904)

@Shubhamghodke3904:Hi greetings, I'd like to give a small advice too. Please sign with four tildes ~~~~ after your every posts on talk pages.-PATH SLOPU 14:51, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for all the pings today...

I reported a sock to SPI and they have posted all over about how you are my sock and all this other nonsense. Hope it didn't spam your email too much :). Sincerely, Kb03 (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kb03 and Mz7: Hi, No worries Kb03. I was a little confused to receive the message and now and thank you for letting me me know the the editor is a SOCK . Mz7 has kindly taken care of the matter. thank you and have a good day. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:15, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism on article page Divya Dwivedi

Hi there CASSIOPEIA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Dwivedi The subject is politically sensitive and there is vandalism on the page. Please place it under protection. There is an ongoing current event regarding the subject that is controversial. I will revert the vandalism now.Speculative Boting (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Speculative Boting Greetings. The vandalized edit has been removed and editor was warned. Page can be protected if there is multiple editors makes vandalized edits. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you CASSIOPEIA. You are most vigilant! May be there won't be so many incidents but the page views jumped to nearly 3000 yesterday. Speculative Boting (talk) 05:40, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Speculative Boting Thank you for your kind comment and thank you for your contribution. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Dear CASSIOPEIA

There is continuing troublesome edits on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divya_Dwivedi

There has been significant aggressive changes since https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Divya_Dwivedi&oldid=920019654 this version. It includes ip edits and aggressive edits by a single user upon older content which had been reviewed by administrators. Could you please restore the article to a version before the aggressive edits began and place it under lock?Speculative Boting (talk) 04:31, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Speculative Boting pls read Talk:Divya Dwivedi. You need to read the said links and discussion the issue with the involved editor. WP:IS (independent ), WP:RS (reliable sources) and WP:NPOV (neutral point of view) need to be adhered so, pls follow the guidelines. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi CASSIOPEIA, I will do so. Thank you for the intervention and resolution. I hope that a solution can be reached quickly. Speculative Boting (talk) 05:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Help on discussion on naming

Talk:Jesus water miracle § Title Hi greetings, I am asking you for a help. If you like please consider this discussion about the naming of an article. The article is about a hoax. Your suggestions may help. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 15:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Path slopu Commented and cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:20, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

G13 of never-submitted AfC drafts

Hi. I recently came across a log entry for Draft:Magaret Lin Xavier, which I remembered as a promising draft, so requested undeletion and clicked the AfC submit button (it was promptly accepted). It seems that the original contributor (who hasn't been active since) forgot to submit their draft. I'm wondering, since you placed the G13 tag on the draft, does G13 tagging usually involve a brief inspection of the quality of each draft, or is it more of a semi-automated batch process, without time for individual analysis? --Paul_012 (talk) 16:37, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Paul 012 Greetings. The article was refunded which meant was check by admin prior deleted under G13 and added Bangkok post for source after then it is accepted. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 20:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Not sure that answers my question, but thanks anyway. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:21, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Sign

Hi, you forgot to sign on Talk:Jesus water miracle. Once a ping is messed up, (here mainly due to missing sign), it cannot be fixed. you have to ping again in a new line or in edit summary. --DBigXrayᗙ 09:24, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

DBigXray Thanks for informing. I just xsigned it. Thanks again. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:47, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey I'm looking for some help

Just started first article "List of Canadian ufc fighters" and I have been trying to get it done. But it is my first article so I'm bit confused on how some of the links and stuff works. It says my article is orphaned and I need to add more links but I'm not to sure how to do that:/ I see u edit some ufc stuff think you can help me? Got these one the page This article currently links to a large number of disambiguation pages (or back to itself) (check | fix).Please help direct these ambiguous links to articles dealing with the specific meaning intended. Read the FAQ.(September 2019)

This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions.(September 2019)

Want to make sure it works good I tried to check some of the stuff out but in too tired for today. :/ any help would be appreciated Tsims23 (talk) 09:15, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23, Greetings. Pls see the changes I made on the HW on table setting and I have added a ref column for example. (1) Pls remove all the links "double brackets" on Nick name section and (2) please add sources (inline citation) on the ref section of the info claimed in the row. (3) Lastly, I notice you copies and pasted some of the text from other articles in Wikipedia for such you need to give proper attribution - WP:PATT, in a dummy edit and in the article talk page, to the original author as they info you added is not your work. Once you have done that, pop back if you want me to review the article for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 10:06, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your help I will try my best tomorrow to get things looking better and I'm not really to sure how the links work on here yet gunna watch some videos. And should I give refrence to all the wikipedia pages I used too and if so how would I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsims23 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23 For proper attribution - see WP:PATT. Make a dummy edit and state "proper attribution to original authors of xxx page, xxx page, xxx page. Do that the same in the article talk page . For references (inline citation) - use horizontal format of Template:Cite Web if the source is from digital/web. For more detail info then pls read referencing for instruction/info. Since most of the fighters do have pages in Wikipedia, you would find the sources easily on their page. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 11:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA, Im a bit confused on what this < br > is what should i be putting in there? and also i tried to like a like to Harold Howard in heavyweight but it keeps saying its a missing or empty title im confused, im looking at other fighter pages to see how they have theyre refs done it seems to work for them but not mine and i entered it the same way. Wikipedia has the most complete bio for this fighter do that's what was used for info as with most of the others, I also looked them up on sherdog the matches and organizations are there but sometimes doesnt give the note worth detail. sorry bout not editing soon has been unexpectedly busy lately. thanks again for the help (Tsims23 (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC))

Hi Tsims23, the "br" nested inside <> = line break. Pls see Help:Wikitext. For references, do read referencing /inline citation for info and instructions. For web source, you can use "horizontal format" Template:Cite Web. You can also use Wikipedia:VisualEditor to input the reference by just input the URL and it will filled the rest of the parameter/info accordingly. Please read Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide on how to set up Visual Editor and info.

I dont understand what you meant by "like to Harold Howard in heavyweight but it keeps saying its a missing or empty title". Kindly reword so I may help. I also added a column for ref on HW section. Pls input info of the content (the row) claimed. If you not sure how to do it, then give me the source (URL) of the content claimed and I will add the ref/inline citation in for you as an example. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk)

CASSIOPEIA sorry about that spellcheck I ment to say I tried to link a link to harold howard in the notes section(Can be seen as a little 8 at the end of the note). But when I did, it says it was an empty link or empty title(tried to also link another says same thing. They are at the bottom in references). I gave it one but I dont know it that's how its suppose to work. I'm using another wikipedia page for code refrence or I would have even come close to getting this far lol. I wanted to make a copy of this one just for canadians instead https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_UFC_fighters . I was teting to enter references how they have them. They dont have a reference column. I am also gunna have to get another buddy to help me I think. Gunna see if i can try and understand some of this stuff :) Tsims23 (talk) 04:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23 Thanks for the explanation, but I still not sure what issues you are facing exactly, but i have added a ref on Harold Howard to reflect the content claimed. Pls see the ref column. To add the source, as i say pls use "horizontal format" Template:Cite Web and read WP:REFB. Also Pls copy the table parameters on HW and replace them on the rest of the weight divisions. (remember to add an extra line starting with a pipe "|" for ref column". I hope I answer you questions. If not pls pop back here. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:26, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA No worries and thank you for the help very much I will begin to enter references in the format you have displayed. And it's not much to worry about anymore but down in the reference tab you can see that i have one that says it has no title but I see what u did so I dont think that will be an issue. I do want to know tho how do I get it so that I can actually make this searchable on Google because I have to search it on wikipedia only. Just wondering that's what I'll be doing last basically. Just gunna try to finish it up asap I'll start adding refs tomorrow. Thanks again for the help :). Tsims23 (talk) 07:58, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23 OK, pop back here if you need further help. I am always here. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:51, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA I have entered every fighter and just have to do minor edits if your free and willing think you can go over it and also help me so that when i search it on google it actually shows up. thx for ur help so far.

Tsims23 Greetings. what you provided are not independent source (sherdog/tapology/ufc/figther home page and etch as the sources are associated with the subjects). We are after independent, relable sources such as any manjor newspapers, mma junkie, mma figting, In the cage, ESPN mma, bloody elbow, Combate, Low Kick mma, MMA DNA, Sherdog (article pages and not the fighter databases/fight records), MMA Mad, Asia MMA, MMA Mania, MMA Suka, MMA Basil,Kimura.se and etc. Any way you would find the sources are from the fighters' pages, or you could search on Google just type "xxx fighter vs. xxx fighter results". Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:17, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA I know exactly what ur saying I plan on adding 2 references per person, I put the sherdog reference in as it is the first reference for every fighter profile on the site(I guess we use them as a reference to all mma stats on wiki) I do plan on entering more links I just disnt have the time the other day. Also wanted u to have a look over it just to make sure I didnt messup before I went and added another 98 references. Just wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to go back and fix too much :) however for some fighter sherdog is the only thing that they might have I'm talking bout the obscure fighters that dont yet have a wikipedia page. Most all of there notes that If listed(ex.Has 7 fight win streak), notable wins and appearances are all just from looking at sherdog. So I will have to wait till those guys get but more popular and get some news attention Tsims23 (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23 Good day. First of all pls read Help:Wikitext which I have sent you earlier which would help you on "Wikipedia mark up text" on your editing and communication with other editors. Do add an extra ":" (one space indentation) from the previous message when replying on talk page for this is the common communication protocol for message thread. Secondly, you can link the the article for red link text by placing a "|" after the read text and place the exact page. Example UFC FN 23 you can either do this UFC FN 23 or UFC FN 23 (pls see in source editing mode). You can find all the UFC events here - List of UFC events. I have added extra column after the fighters' record so you may add the source (Sherdog) there. As for the second ref column (far right) you can put the source for specific info claimed for "Notes" or "Notable wins". Do copy the HW table template on the top and paste on all other divisions and add extra "|" after the "MMA record" on the table parameter (see HW for example). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:49, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA why would u want to delete the article I made Tristan Connelly he personally asked me to make it for him on twitter. I used legit sources to — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsims23 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Tsims23 Hi pls see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tristan Connelly where I have given my reasons and comments. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:18, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Help!

Hi- I am trying to archive my talk page. I did it successfully for the first but I can't figure out how to add a second archive. I have created the page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NEDOCHAN/Archive2) and I have a the box on my page- can you help? NEDOCHAN (talk) 13:39, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

NEDOCHAN, Greetings. See Help:Archiving a talk page and get it set up to archieve automatically as per set parameter. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:48, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

I am useless- I have tried....can you edit my talk page to show me?NEDOCHAN (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

NEDOCHAN, Good day, you are not useless. Dont ever say that, we just learn to do thing bit by bit. Done as requested and see your talk page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:53, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Cass - us grammarians are not renowned for our technical/coding ability. :) NEDOCHAN (talk) 08:06, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

NEDOCHAN, sorry, I often edit few pages at the same time and I am thinking way too faster than my finger hitting the keyboard.:) Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

New message from Harshil169

Hello, Cassiopeia. You have new messages at Talk:Divya Dwivedi.
Message added 17:52, 11 October 2019 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Harshil ^{want to talk?} 17:52, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

I didn't vandalize a damn thing

Please quit harassing me for putting in factual information AmThBeautifulScotThBrave (talk) 21:25, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

AmThBeautifulScotThBrave Greetings. MMA fighters' fight record at Sherdog.com based on Wikipedia WP:MMA guidelines, "Do not use your interpretation of a fight result in the record, as the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Any result that is not referenced or that is not the same as in Sherdog, must be returned to how it is described in Sherdog.", see - Demetrious Johnson at Sherdog. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:12, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

NPPSchool

Hey Cassiopeia, I know it's only been a week since I copied answers in NPPSchool and had my NPR and AFC rights removed but in this time I've extensively fought vandalism, created few articles and read many guidelines and policies including WP:GNG, WP:SNG, WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:NOT and a few more. I've also requested the AFC rights via the talk page after going through WP:AFCR. Hence, I'd like to enroll back into NPPSchool and resume my training so that I can learn more under your guidance. Pls let me know about your decision. Andrew Base (talk) 14:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Andrew Base Greetings. I have written a few long messages to you (along with a few involved parties) on your talk page under the message title "Draft:Daya Reddy" which I have edited on October 4, 2019 which I still stand by "It will server you best as Girth's put it "spend a few months doing counter vandalism, maybe write some content by expanding some articles you're interested in" and if you show show a commitment to learn and provide good contributions after six months, with min additional 2,000 mainspace edits in the time frame, then re-enrolling back to the NPPSCHOOL program would be a possibility. Dont need to rush but do what is necessary as Wikipedia is always here. All the best". Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:18, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Kindly review new article

Dear admin pls kindly review this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarvesh_Amte User:Shubhamghodke390415:27, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Shubhamghodke3904, Hi Shubhamghodke3904, As indicated in To review a new page message that I have indicated the reason that I would not review the page. Please read. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:06, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Kazuma Kaya

Dear User. You have drafted during Summer the article Kazuma Kaya, for the reasons indicated here ("Undersourced, incubate in draftspace"). As previously said to you by @Binbaksa:, this Japanese gymnast (already world champion) was sufficiently notable as a gold medallist in a major event, and the content of the article, was perhaps kind of stub-like, but enough to be published. Please, take into consideration the guidelines and the Sport criteria before making obstacles to new and necessary articles.--Arorae (talk) 15:08, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Arorae. Pls note this vision is when I moved the page to draft space where the source provide point to - see Here-1 to no information to support the content claimed. Do note "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.' see WP:PROVEIT and WP:BURDEN which inline with the Wikipedia:Content policy of Wikipedia. Reviewers has the right to move the page to draft space if the news page has not source to support the content claim - see WP:NPPDRAFT. As as of today, still no source to support the content claimed in the article. Thank you.00:16, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #386

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Upcoming: Monthly workshop in Buenos Aires, Argentina, October 17th
  • Upcoming: Talk about connections between Wikidata, Wikipedia and OSM, Bordeaux, France, October 17th
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  • Upcoming: WikidataCon 2019 and side events: Wikibase workshop, iNaturalist workshop, October 24th to 27th, Berlin

• Press, articles, blog posts
  • My message to video game databases: We(kidata) come in peace, by Jean-Frédéric (the subject is broader than just video games)
  • Lei (Nico) Zheng, et al. (2019) The Roles Bots Play in Wikipedia. Proceedings of the ACM: Human-Computer Interaction, Volume 3, Issue CSCW, Article 215 (November 2019), 20 pages. DOI: 10.1145/3359317 (also blog post).
  • Lina M. Rojas-Barahona, et al. (2019) Spoken Conversational Search for General Knowledge. Proceedings of the 20th Annual SIGdial Meeting on Discourse and Dialogue. ACL Anthology ID: W19-5914 + arXiv:1909.11980

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Tech News: 2019-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use more advanced editing tools on the mobile web. You can turn them on and off in your preferences in the mobile version. [1]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 October. It will be on all wikis from 17 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are no longer supported. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They will not get security support. You can't read Wikimedia wikis in Internet Explorer on Windows XP or Windows versions that are older than Windows XP. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them made the wikis less secure for everyone else. [2]
• In the future section headings might have a share link. This is to make it easier to link to the section. You can read more and discuss.

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23:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Stub class

Pinehouse Photography Club Good day. Im just curious how an assessment of a page changes and how this works? Thank u hagd!! --Dreerwin (talk) 13:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Dreerwin Good'y. For content assessment, pls see Wikipedia:Content assessment. I have change the class from stub to start. Let me know if anything else I could help. cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:26, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! CASSIOPEIA Quick question - does page quality affect it showing up on google...it doesn't show up anymore or is that because it was put up for deletion? Thanks again! --Dreerwin (talk) 04:17, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Notability

As far as what I have understand from WP:GNG, if a topic is notable, it is not essential to have sources, it is good to have verifiable sources for it. There are thousands of pages without a single source, I am not sure why a village page can't have a Wiki without sources? Draft:Jaswantgarh (Udaipur) Meeanaya (talk) 05:20, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Meeanaya. Greetings. As per WP:GNG- "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is "presumed" to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." verifiability - All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA, the page got approved through WP:AFC, this is the second time when you have moved my pages to draftspace and it was approved within 24 hours. First one was Bajajnagar, Udaipur Thanks Meeanaya (talk) 18:42, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Meeanaya. Good day, when I moved the page to draft it is this version-1 where by no sources were provided and this is adding AfC script and not a move.Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:52, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Reza Sholeh Page

Hi thank u for your suggestions ive made the changes you mentioned :https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reza_Sholeh&oldid=921601425. I haven't received any mail after that on this topic , so i use the icon Move on the top of the page, now can you please tell me whether the page is published completely or not Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samansedighii (talk • contribs) 18:38, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

• Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
• Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
• Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

lillee jean trueman draft article

Hi Cassiopeia, i am the original author of this draft article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lillee_Jean_Trueman someone else is maliciously editing my draft and then submitting it for review without my approval or knowledge and then posting about it on twitter ridiculing that its failing to be approved (pretty sure that its the same person on twitter thats doing these rogue submissions). I'm fairly new to editing/post on wikipedia. do i have any recourse or protections? The user Smon477 has twice edited my article and resubmitted it without my permission. I'm NOT done correcting and updating it according to the instructions i received after submitting it back in Jan. I don't know what to do to protect my work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattm80 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Mattm80 Good day. Anyone can edit Wikipedia and they can submit the article for review without the need to ask for approval from anyone even the creator. However, you could remove the unsouced content especially those are deem controversies. You could aslo place a warning template on their talk page (choose either unsouced or disruptive template) via WP:Twinkle, starting with level one and increase the warning level with subsequent disruptive/unsourced edits. However, if the edits are not considered vandalism, pls do not revert the edit more than 3 time within 24 hours in the same article for you will be "blocked" - this is important to note). We could report the editor after the fourth warning to WP:AIV. Pages can only be protected if the pages are vandalized by multiple editors especially in a short time frame. For the article mentioned, as it is only involved one editor, no protection is needed/granted. By the way, you nee to read WP:Your First Article and referencing to familiar yourself on how to write an article. Also a subject needs to deem notable in order to merit a page in Wikipedia. At current stage the page mentioned fails the notability guidelines.17:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Mattm80 Since yo are a paid editor, you need to disclose your conflict of interest (COI) (1) on the article's talk page and (2) on your user page. Pls read WP:PAID and follow the instructions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 17:34, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Articles for creation

I currently hold new page reviewer rights. I am considering applying to be an AFC reviewer. I have read WP:AFCR, but I learn best when someone teaches me how to do it. Would you mind teaching me the skills I need to learn while reviewing potential articles? Interstellarity (talk) 17:59, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Interstellarity Greetings. I noticed you have your permanent NPP reviewer right this month. There is some fundamental differences on reviewing a new page as compared to review a AfC page even the ultimate goal is the same. There is the WP:NPPSCHOOL and I am one of the trainers and if you want to enroll then let me know. To say that, my course (every trainer have different formats/topics) material/topics could be used for AfC or NPP except school of thoughts/attitudes and workflow are quite different. If you just want to ask a few questions here and there, you are welcome to just list them here. However, if you are seriously want to know about reviewing articles and all the notability guidelines and its related subjects, then I do suggest you to take up the course. Do note there will be assignments and material to read, similarity to that of CVUA you have done. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 14:43, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA, Do you recommend enrolling in WP:NPPSCHOOL? I'm fine with doing assignments just like in WP:CVUA. Interstellarity (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Interstellarity Yes, I do. I will do a extra "AfC review workflow/process" on diff sub page at the after you have finished the NPPSCHOOL course so you familiar with the different review workflow and criteria btw AfC and NPP. Let me know if you still want to enroll so I may set it up for you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

CASSIOPEIA, I would like to enroll. Interstellarity (talk) 15:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity See HERE and welcome to NPPSCHOOL. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:14, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

UFC Fight Night: Blachowicz vs. Jacare

Earlier I edited this page and I changed it because the UFC website says the entire card is on ESPN2 and not ESPN+. I was just wondering why you changed it back. WWEFan1926 (talk) 04:35, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

WWEFan1926 Greetings. Please note that as per the sources the event is named "UFC on ESPN+" - see HERE-1 and HERE 2]. And all the fighters pages and as well as the page content info is based on UFC on ESPN+ 22. Please note Wikipedia is not about the true but what is based on sources - pls see Wikipedia:But it's true!. If there are sources indication the change of UFC on ESPN, then we change the page name. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:56, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Dominick Reyes won by TKO

Dominick Reyes won against Weidman was announced a TKO, stop putting KO. Rjrsurprise (talk) 13:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Rjrsurprise Good day. Please note that the "method" on the fighter table is as per Sherdog.com - see HERE, as it is based on Wikipedia WP:MMA guidelines. Please do not interpret the method yourself and do note Wikipedia is not about the true but what is based on source - pls see Wikipedia:But it's true!. If you continue to change it back then you will be blocked. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:38, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Greg Hardy

I moved the "Domestic violence charges and suspension" section to after his football career and before the MMA career. It was weird having the MMA career section, that section, and then his MMA record. Hope that works. Udar55 (talk) 16:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Udar55, OK and thanks. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

No problem. And thanks for all of the work you do on MMA stuff! Udar55 (talk) 16:44, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Udar55, Likewise . CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:50, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Sports notability

I opened a section in the talk page for WP:NSKATE to clarify my changes that were reverted if you want to take a look. Sunnyou31 (talk) 17:50, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Sunnyou31 Greetings. You might want to post a link -Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports) in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Figure Skating as those who are interested and familiar with the sport might want to join the discussion. Secondly, any changes of the name need to supported by sources. Thirdly, if the discussion outcome is yes then you it would be idea to also includes the formal names, so editors/reviewers would know it is the same org for most of us who are do not have in dept background knowledge in Figure Skating. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The API sandbox and help pages now show more clearly when API modules are marked as internal. API modules marked as internal were probably internal before. It was easier to miss. You should look for non-internal alternatives. [3]

Problems

• There is a translation tool we use on wikis with more than one language. For a few days it did not create pages for new languages when someone translated a page. The languages did not show in the language bar. This has been fixed. [4]
• The history and diffs can show wrong content. This is because of a cache problem. It will soon be fixed. [5]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 October. It will be on all wikis from 24 October (calendar).
• Reference Previews will be a beta feature on all Wikipedias and some Wikivoyages. It shows you a preview of the footnote when you hover over or click on the number. It has been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 October. See how to join.

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14:29, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #387

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Upcoming: WikidataCon 2019 on October 25-26. If you're not attending, you can follow most of the sessions remotely with live stream.
  • Upcoming: Wikidata's seventh birthday, on October 29th. You can organize an event in your area and add it to the list!
  • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Finding GLAMs campaign cont. with OpenRefine demo, 22 October. Agenda
  • Upcoming: Wikidata and Archival Metadata : opportunities and challenges for heritage institutions by Baptiste de Coulon in Study day on Linked Data, Brussels, Friday November 22th, 2019.
  • Past: Several sessions at Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2019 (11–13 October):
    • Wikidata content oriented projects, talk by Mārtiņš Bruņenieks (video)
    • Using Wikidata as an Educational Platform, talk by Nebojša Ratković (video)
    • Beyond the basics: Intermediate Wikidata tools, workshop by Asaf Bartov (not recorded)
    • Your first Wikidata Lua infobox, workshop by Tobias Schönberg (not recorded)

• Press, articles, blog posts
  • Querying Wikidata RDF with SQL using RDF2X
  • Ozymandias in Canberra - how the Atlas of Living Australia could be enhanced using Wikidata
  • Knowledge Graph Consolidation by Unifying Synonymous Relationships - Jan-Christoph Kalo, et al.
  • PhD thesis: Candela Romero, Gustavo (2019). Publicación y enriquecimiento semántico de datos abiertos en bibliotecas digitales (in Spanish).
  • Wikidata Wordmap

• Tool of the week
  • The Wikidata Wor(l)dmap is showing translations of the same concept on a world map. To use it, type a word (for example "water") in the search field, then observe the map. You can zoom in the map. The data comes from Wikidata item labels and the coordinate location property of the language.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata won an Open Publishing Award (description).
  • Panandâ, a mobile app powered by Wikidata (and Wikimedia Commons), was selected as one of the five finalists in the App for Social Good category in the Android Masters 2019 competition organized by Google Developer Group Philippines. The final event will be held on November 16.
  • Issue with Wikidata Query Service: aggregate variables can no longer reuse the names of other variables (T235540).
  • You can translate labels in the background image of Wikidata front page by adding translation to this file

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: image backside, frontside image, gender educated, image with frame, line(s), minimum temperature record, glacier status, number of processor threads, reason for preferred rank, creator's signature
    • External identifiers: Professional Football League of Ukraine player ID, Rotterdam City Archives actor ID, FreeBSD port, Bluetooth Declaration ID, Bundle ID, Dictionary of Sculptors in Britain ID, Wolfram Language quantity ID, Steam bundle ID, FantLab author ID, NAD place ID, Eu-football.info referee ID, WorldReferee.com referee ID, FantLab award ID, FantLab publisher ID, FantLab work ID, FIG gymnast (no licence) identifier, WorldFootball.net competition ID, Rijksmuseum Research Library authority ID, Basis Wien person ID, Basis Wien institution ID, Basis Wien event ID, Basis Wien object ID, NARCIS researcher ID, Turkish Football Federation Team ID, Czech Fortuna liga player ID, 90minut.pl team ID, Soccerbase team ID, Transfermarkt.com match ID, AAAS keyword ID, Kinematoscope film ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: MOHW HospID, graph diameter, ICP filing, aspect, key col, key col of
    • External identifiers: FlashScore.com match ID, GHR Conditions ID, Eu-football.info coach ID, Soccerbase referee ID, Edvard Munchs correspondance person ID, Neliti Journal ID, Broadway Photographs person ID, National Marine Biological Library authority ID, Auckland War Memorial Museum Online Cenotaph Serviceperson ID, iNaturalist place ID, dp.ru persons ID, IISG ID, ifixit ID, Wolfram Language entity type, CinemaRx person ID, Kinématoscope - Literary work, Kinématoscope - Film director, Kinématoscope - Writer, Stathletics-ID, BDFutbol team ID
  • Query examples:
    • Map of châteaux in the French world heritage site "the Loire Valley between Sully-sur-Loire and Chalonnes" (source)
    • Graph of the personal relationships between Tekken characters and their fighting styles (source)
    • Timeline of the chief ministers of Haryana and Maharashtra (source)
    • Language representation of descriptions in Wikidata for objects connected to Ksamsök (source)
    • Cricketers who have ever played on an Indian Super League team (source)

• Development
  • Fixed the DuplicateReferences gadget that was broken due to refactoring work needed to make pages load faster and development easier (phab:T234094)
  • Wikidata Bridge: restricting the length of string value inputs (phab:T229241)
  • research delayed kicking in of Bridge (phab:T233305)
  • enable/disable save button depending on Bridge state (phab:T230342)
  • More work on reducing the resource loader modules
  • More work on tainted references

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

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