User talk:Buster7/Archives/2008/December

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Alastair Haines in topic A book we might both be interested in

We can do it! :)

Hey Buster!

You are the coolest dude. You got your man elected as pres, I'm sure things are going to be fine with me. Thanks for rallying the troops.

I don't think we're going to have similar difficulties in future, but you never know.

What projects are you working on at Wiki right now? Alastair Haines (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice to see you're back and working away. Alastair Haines (talk) 00:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

East-Flemish

Hi Buster, Thanks for your message on my userpage. I'm glad someone found the way to my little wikia. I would be more than happy with any kind of assistance, considering that right now I'm still on my own. Dialects in Flanders seem to be dying slowly and while there are several dialectbased events with usually a high degree of popularity I don't get the impression that they're doing much good. I myself believe that our language is a part of our cultural heritage and should be kept alive. Nychus (talk) 13:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Nice words at patriarchy

Thanks for perfectly helpful words at Patriarchy. One of the best things about it was that you didn't take sides. Keep up your great wiki-ing. I think I have met a man perfectly suited to settling things with cool, calm words of reason. How many ways can we contribute at Wiki? Let me count the ways ... :) Alastair Haines (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


Seperate but Equal

Regardless what we think about it and notwithstanding close linguistic and cultural connections between the Netherlands and Flanders, 'ethnically Dutch' does not seem to be the usual way of referring to the Flemish community.. User:Iblardi....--Buster7 (talk) 20:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

The Honeymoon

"The Honeymoon" of article involvement can last only as long as fellow editors (mutual collaborators) have a respectful give and take, a mutual respect, grounded in civility and candor. It is always good to see agreement by quality editors. They are the best ambassadors---helping to dispense and disperse a high level of Wiki participation and results. Weening Wikipedia editors from adversarial conversation should be high on all our agendas as we wander WikiWorld.--Buster7 (talk) 20:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Surely an improved article is the most desirable outcome form anyone/everyones point of view.--Buster7 (talk) 15:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Consensus

You have a better memory than I do! Look at the bottom of this. Most of my comments were in Archives 29-32 - if it is not in Archive 29, I wrote many comments here, look at my Oct. 6 19:48-19:52 comments specifically on consensus. I hope you find what you are looking for. Frankly, I did not think i wrote anything so special, anything that is not clear in our WP:CON policy. What i mean is, if you are looking for anything to quote, you should just quote that policy. If you really think I wrote something that provided an especially clear and constructive explanation, may I suggest that you edit it as appropriate and see if you can find a place to add it to the WP:CON policy ... and if you think the answer is yes, make a proposal on the talk page for the policy and, well, seek a consensus to make an addition to the policy page? Slrubenstein | Talk 22:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit request

Hello, there. I am contacting you because you say you are a copyeditor. I was wondering if you would be interested in copyediting Highlander: The Series (season 2). It has recently undergone Peer Review and only a lack of copyediting is currently preventing it from going to FLC. It has already been half reviewed and the copyeditor left notes on the talk page, which you might find useful, should you take the job, which would be to complete the copyedit. Your time would be greatly appreciated. Have a merry Christmas, Rosenknospe (talk) 16:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

(ReTrieved)...I got your request and will check it out after the Holidays. I am happy to see that I will be following in the footsteps of a dear Wikifriend, Alastair. He has big feet. I will do my best. Early Jan, I'll do some editing and you can see what you think. Best to you and yours.--Buster7 (talk) 00:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your quick answer ! Another editor has taken a look at it in the meantime, so I'm bringing it to FLC right now because I've been waiting for that for more than a month and I'm an impatient kind of person ;D but please do have a look when you have time, I'm sure the prose needs a good polish to be really shining and it's not like FLC is so quick. Have a nice Christmas time, Rosenknospe (talk) 18:12, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Christmas cheer

Much appreciated! Thank you. Happy Crimble! — Writegeist (talk) 18:28, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Gosh

Oh ... you're welcome. :0)(olive (talk) 19:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC))

Brussels-Halle-Vilvoorde

Hello, your copyediting in the article Brussels-Halle-Vilvoorde is much appreciated. However, in one part something is not right anymore. As my English is not as good, and as I do not want to ruin your work, I thought it would be best to make my remarks here on your talk page.

Old version

... and, in the Flemish Halle and Vilvoorde areas surrounding Brussels, six municipalities with between 30% and 50% French speakers (as determined by the latest linguistic census from 1947) would be granted extended facilities (linguistical, but also political rights).

The French-speaking parliamentarians tried to add these 6 municipalities to Brussels, which was fiercely resisted by the unanimous Flemish parliamentarians.

Latest version

... and, in the Flemish Halle and Vilvoorde areas surrounding Brussels, six municipalities with between 30% and 50% French speakers (as determined by the latest linguistic census from 1947).

As these six municipalities would be granted extended linguistic and political facilities, the French-speaking parliamentarians tried to add them to Brussels, which was fiercely resisted by the unanimous Flemish parliamentarians.

Problem

In the latest version the first sentence misses a verb and misses a contents. In addition the suggested cause-reaction is not true. The French-speaking parliamentarians try to add them anyway.

Suggested solution

Is the following a correct solution?

... and, in the Flemish Halle and Vilvoorde areas surrounding Brussels, six municipalities with between 30% and 50% French speakers (as determined by the latest linguistic census from 1947) would be granted extended linguistic and political facilities.

The French-speaking parliamentarians tried to add them to Brussels, which was fiercely resisted by the unanimous Flemish parliamentarians.

Kind regards Kvdh (talk) 06:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


Yes, Kvdh. Your solution is accurate. I misinterpreted/misread the changing status of the French speaking municipalities and took it to refer to the Flemish speaking ones. Bedankt, goed gadaan! ;-)...--Buster7 (talk) 07:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, then I'll implement the change. Nice Dutch, almost perfect (it's gedaan and not gadaan) ! Regards Kvdh (talk) 14:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't speak Dutch. I speak Flemish 'Stekese taal!--Buster7 (talk) 05:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Copy/edit request

This time is Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Monaco). There is not too much text on it, but an extra two eyes is always good.

Bedankt, Miguel.mateo (talk) 06:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Done...for now...always glad to help. --Buster7 (talk) 06:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

That was fast! Thanks! If you're bored, you can take a look at Euro gold and silver commemorative coins (Finland) as well ;) Thanks and happy new year! Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The rest of the story

On the User Page; User:Collect/personas, in his second example, Collect makes inferences to the persona of an unnamed editor as a "jump-in-and-anger-the-other-guy" type. Buster7 is the un-named editor. The following is the entire conversation for whatever its worth and is retreived here to be used when it is appropriate;

((:What I like most about the Sarah Palin article is that it puts me in touch with knowledgable editors like you. Your comments regarding the goings on at the rape kit thread are educational and informative. I also Wholeheartedly agree with your comments about editor:C-----t. There is something more than meets the eye there. I have some derogatory and self-created (by him) information that I would like to reveal regarding C-----t. But, I would like to create a situation where most of the editors that have worked to formulate a quality article are present. Unless C-----t pushes too much, I will probably wait till closer to the election. (I feel like Sam Spade/Private Detective). Sometimes the things that are found in an editors "contributions" can be very interesting.--Buster7 (talk) 23:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

::If you do have some kind of relevant information, I'd caution you to take it to administrators sooner rather than later and avoid revealing it in a public context. It will lose a lot of credibility if you try to use it to torpedo the guy instead of going through the proper channels in a timely fashion. You might even get into trouble for it. As for my own sentiments, I just find the whole thing very frustrating. It's very hard to AGF. I feel if I were not devoting time to the article then a lot of massaging and reinterpreting and excluding of the sources would be taking place.User:_________Editor is blanked to protect identity...available upon request of 2 administrators (User talk:_______ same) 00:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

:::please see [[1]] here....and advise ASAP. What to do.....and when....it explains alot...confidential, please...I have shown only _________(Editor is blanked to protect identity...available upon request of 2 administrators) since he also has expessed problems --Buster7 (talk) 04:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

:::Just now shared with admin LessHeard vanU...thanks for advice--Buster7 (talk) 05:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Much as I would like to view that as a gloves-off admission of an obstructionist editorial style, it looks more like a sarcastic commentary on typical edit-warring. I don't like the guy too much, and have suspicions about his motivations, but I really don't think you're going to get anywhere with this. I wouldn't even bother bringing it up.User:_________Editor is blanked to protect identity...available upon request of 2 administrators 15:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::Your right. I didn't get anywhere but frustrated. Thanks for confiding and guidance. I'll drop it and move on.--Buster7 (talk) 16:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC) ))

This correlates with [[2]]. As anyone can plainly see my communication had nothing at all to do with angering another editor. It had much more to do with sharing information about a pain-in-the-butt editor. Had I known that there was a RfD initiated I would have actively participated. (If only any administrator had given me some proper instructions!) It would seem that Cumulous Clouds was not alone in his paranoia. Maybe, had I known of our mutual situation, we could have compared notes.--Buster7 (talk) 05:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Cumulous Clouds has decided to retire. Another editor bites the dust.
Suddenly, [3] is not so humorous!--Buster7 (talk) 14:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Dutch heraldry

The Low Countries were great centres of heraldry in medieval times. One of the famous armorials is the Gelre Armorial or Wapenboek, written between 1370 and 1414. Coats of arms in the Netherlands were not controlled by an official heraldic system like the two in the United Kingdom, nor were they used solely by noble families. Any person could develop and use a coat of arms if they wished to do so, provided they did not usurp someone else's arms, and historically, this right was enshrined in Roman Dutch law[1]. As a result, many merchant families had coats of arms even though they were not members of the nobility. These are sometimes referred to as burgher arms, and it is thought that most arms of this type were adopted while the Netherlands was a republic (1581-1806). This heraldic tradition was also exported to the erstwhile Dutch colonies.[2]

Dutch heraldry is characterised by its simple and rather sober style, and in this sense, is closer to its medieval origins than the eloborate styles which developed in other heraldic traditions.[3]

A book we might both be interested in

The link is to a page where Barak's Audacity of Hope is listed alongside Peter's, both at the same (low) price. ;)

I use libraries not book stores. I'm not selling anything. I've not read Oborne yet, I just trust the man who recommended him. Alastair Haines (talk) 15:30, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

  1. ^ J.A. de Boo. Familiewapens, oud en nieuw. Een inleiding tot de Familieheraldiek. (Centraal Bureau voor Genealogie, The Hague: 1977)
  2. ^ Roosevelt Coats of Arms: Theodore and Franklin Delano at American Heraldry Society. Accessed January 20, 2007.
  3. ^ Cornelius Pama Heraldiek in Suid-Afrika. (Balkema, Cape Town: 1956).