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Hi! I've noticed you've made some great work with indigenous pages, awesome! keep up the good work!! The template {{First Nations in Saskatchewan}} is perfection.

I have also noticed that you've removed the {{SKDivision#}} template from some pages, such as the Star Blanket Cree Nation page. I don't mean to be a weenuk (as my Anishnaabe friends would call me), but I created those navboxes with the intention of linking all communities in the area. To have the page Regina, Saskatchewan have a navbox link to Star Blanket is very useful, I think. I know reserves are not "technically" a part of the province, and statistical divisions are all-but-useless, but I think it a good idea to have this inter-linking.

Cheers! FUNgus guy (talk) 06:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey, I'm a pretty new editor so I'm really glad someone's looking! I've had multiple arguments offsite about the relevance of Prairie Canadian census divisions, which always devolved into people citing Wikipedia as evidence, so the situation has grown into a bit of a personal vendetta. But I think their continued use in articles is totally understandable because, well, they're also the divisions shown on all current Prairie Canadian locator maps, and as you mentioned, the alternatives are pretty unclear.

I've been putting together a bit of a plan to do a good job winding up what I think is the overuse of these divisions:

• Update any outstanding late-2000s cartographic materials with more up-to-date ones, using TM projections (distortion-minimizing & favoured by provincial governments) and whichever second-level subdivision boundaries are most locally relevant (i.e. the ones you see signed on the highway)

• Write about more relevant divisions to replace them - most recently I've been concentrating on NWT land claims, see Gwich'in Tribal Council

• Keep making navboxes

I don't have the permissions to edit the most-transcluded locator maps (i.e. Alberta), and I'd like to run their visual style by others first, but you can see a preliminary (and census-division-free, thanks to GNWT open data) effort at Module:location map/data/Canada Northwest Territories.

You're right that a regional context should still exist, though! In Alberta, I think the province's current slate of seven Land-use Planning Regions are a cinch to replace Census Divisions in most articles, as they're legally relevant and have existed intact for quite a few decades. Unfortunately, I'm less familiar with Saskatchewan, and open data is less available there. I don't think SARM divisions are the answer (especially wrt indigenous and urban geography) due to the limited scope of that organization, but I'm not exactly sure what else exists. I'll keep looking into it.

Also, good catch, or at least you've inspired me - I'm going to amend the tribal council section by adding the location of their head offices. Since the council names are probably unfamiliar to most readers (including me), this should provide an appropriate level of geographic context without being cluttered.

Awmcphee (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I live in a Territorial District, which is another basically-meaningless dividing of land. No county-level government, just a regionality. But it kinda means something, the courts and school boards are divvied up by those lines. I have NO idea what it's like in the prairies, do people relate to their Census Division in the same way I acknowledge my District?

I've kinda moved east-to-west creating templates and navboxes, so I've had some discussions regarding Census Divisions/Subdivisions and unorganized territories. General consensus seems to be that StatsCan divisions are good enough as subdivisions. You are welcome to re-open that discussion, or start a new one, if you'd like to continue your vendetta :) I had not heard of Alberta's region-creating process, nice. I just finished Saskatchewan and started looking at Alberta. What is an Improvement District, really Alberta?

As I move east-to-west making navboxes, I've done my best to include indigenous entities (my favourites are {{Kenora District}} and {{MBDivision19}}). I created stub-pages of the FNs and reserves as I went, but I would not mind assistance if you know any other resources I could cite, as they have no content other than the gov sources I could find (INAC, StatsCan).

And if you need any help in what you're doing, ask away. You seem to be good though, if you can code your way through the locator maps :) FUNgus guy (talk) 06:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

As far as I know, CDs in all three prairie provinces really are purely statistical, as prairie judicial districts and school districts have always been independent of municipal boundaries (save a "county" system introduced in Alberta only, and now mostly defunct). In my experience, their cultural significance is also nil, as you might expect from their purely numerical designations - even intently studying Alberta local government, I would struggle to name a single one correctly. Since Alberta's municipal affairs portfolio has historically been fairly activist, boundary changes over the last century have caused frequent changes in CD boundaries as well (although in southern Saskatchewan they've been more stable). The general quirkiness of the prairie single-tier system, and the frequency of these boundary changes, would explain to me why Statistics Canada has historically not even bothered trying to implement meaningful CDs on the prairies.

The organization of Northern Manitoba is still a bit confusing to me, as, like Saskatchewan, there's a very sharp contrast between the municipal south and the almost-entirely-unincorporated north, but like Ontario, there are multiple [numbered, not named!] census divisions covering that unincorporated area. From what I've found so far, the Government of Manitoba uses a different scheme to divide its unincorporated area than Statistics Canada does - see the 'Northern Affairs Regions' at the Manitoba Land Initiative.

As for FN sources... I unfortunately don't have anything really special to offer, besides a habit of double-checking band websites and Facebook pages for tribal council membership and other information (i.e. Salt River's recent withdrawal from the Akaitcho treaty process). Geographic Names of Saskatchewan has been an extremely useful source for me, as it has a special and very well-researched focus on Indigenous linguistics and history, but books of place names in other provinces are less helpful. Some minor bands in regions with active land claims might remain permastubs, as they still legally exist for enrollment purposes but have handed off much cultural and administrative significance to larger land claim governments. Awmcphee (talk) 01:37, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Most of the discussions I've had were in reference to the StatsCan divisions of Newfoundland and Labrador, e.g. this page. I think the same questionability of the Census Division existed, but you raise some really good points. I mean, my only counterpoint would be we're an encyclopedia. What else are we to use? Making templates for all of Saskatchewan would be unwieldy. And that's coming from me, the one who created the "places adjacent to" template for Unorganized Kenora District.

I like the idea of Alberta's region-creating process, and the SARM whatever in Saskatchewan, but CDs in Manitoba were weird bc a number of Regional Municipalities had merged, and a good number of the new RMs now straddle two CDs. I mean, I'm used to putting (part) in templates (Shoal Lake 40, for example, straddling Ont/Man border, with two separate StatsCan links). If there is a better way to regionalize the prairie provinces, I'm all ears. You took the terrible FNs in southern/central/northern Saskatchewan templates and made one complete template of awesome.

So yeah, if you can think of a better way for me to inter-connect regions in the prairies, please please please let me know. Otherwise, I might just re-create this same disaster in Alberta soon :) FUNgus guy (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I've found that Manitoba tourism regions and Association of Manitoba Municipalities regions are nearly the same, so I've created a harmonized shapefile which incorporates both sources. Check Template:Manitoba Eastern and Template:Manitoba Interlake. Awmcphee (talk) 20:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Very nice!! FUNgus guy (talk) 02:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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I noticed this edit to North Battleford. Where did you get the "CAN SK North Battleford" map? I saw another one you added to Biggar, Saskatchewan. Did you make them? I really like them and would add more to articles if I knew they existed. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 22:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Correct, I make these myself when I have the time! They're all integrated with Wikipedia's location map module, so they can be called in a variety of situations, particularly infobox pushpin maps. The code that powers them is not too complicated - check Module:Location map/data/CAN SK Val Marie for an example (the entire page is automatically generated, I only wrote the 8 lines of text at the bottom). Alberta is 100% complete, Saskatchewan 40%. You can find my current progress at Commons:Category:Maps of Saskatchewan rural municipalities.

Saskatchewan is slow to finish because of unique data availability issues, but county-level graphics for everywhere else in North America could be generated much faster. Do you have any thoughts about extending this kind of graphic to other jurisdictions? Awmcphee (talk) 01:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I've created a number of articles in Southern Ontario, but those areas are already covered. I've also created a number of articles in Mississippi that might benefit from a more detailed map. Let me look at the module and see what I can do. Thanks for the great info! Magnolia677 (talk) 16:59, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, love your work. Could you extend your work to the Regions of Nunavut? It has maps, but they're way more garish compared to yours, and I love stylistic unity, and plus, there's only 3 subdivisions, should be pretty quick. :) Also, will you ever do any work on Manitoba's rural municipalities like you have done for Alberta counties (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypress_County) and Saskatchewan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Municipality_of_Maple_Creek_No._111). Manitoba's the last province without a clean and crisp 2nd level subdivision map.

Thanks for the positive feedback. Every time someone posts something nice on my user page, I go on a 2-week editing binge. This is not a joke, I'm just easily flattered. Check out Kitikmeot Region, Kivalliq Region, and Qikiqtaaluk Region! Awmcphee (talk) 07:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Nice maps!

You make some really eye-catching maps I've noticed. I'm wondering if you find some free time if you might take a gander at making a map for the Ontario Provincial Highway Network using this dataset? Cheers - Floydian ^τ _¢ 05:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I second the comment: Nice maps! I logged into my Watchlist this morning and saw a slew of your edits, and I think you did well! cheers, PKT(alk) 16:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I guessed my mass edits would get some attention. Glad for the affirmation - I started in Alberta but this is my first time doing maps out east. Awmcphee (talk) 19:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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I hope you're doing well. I liked the map that you made for the Edmonton Metropolitan Region page, and I wanted to see if you'd be willing to make one that shows the members of the Edmonton Metropolitan Transit Services Commission. It'll be a while until they release a logo, or any infrastructure/vehicles are branded with their information, so a map showing the members would really help to liven up the article. Thanks for your time!

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Ah, this is the one that Strathcona County conspicuously didn't participate in. Classic Strathcona County!!! Find it at Commons:File:Edmonton Metropolitan Transit Services Commission map.svg. Awmcphee (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hey, could you please re-upload all your election cartograms in SVG format, as you did for the Polish Senate election? My computer is having a hard time trying to open them. Julio974◆ (Talk-Contribs) 19:43, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

No way around it, I'm about to say something cringe: because I sell my work commercially, I withhold some files from Commons. Right now, I don't want to release print-quality versions of my national cartograms, for business reasons. Poland is the exception because I support the Polish opposition. Awmcphee (talk) 03:37, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

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You should bring your awesome mapmaking skills to make some based Saskatchewan and Manitoba locator maps please

Hi, great work. Are you ever going to replace the locator maps of SK and MB (that use irrelevant census divisions) like you did for Alberta? As an Albertan, I love your work that's enabled Wikipedia to appreciate Alberta's counties in their full glory, but now maybe we should show love for our other prairie provinces too. I'm sick and tired of seeing those nasty gross vomit-inducing census "divisions" in Saskatchewan and Manitoba as if that's our county equivalent :)

70.77.224.98 (talk) 12:10, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Working on it - I am a Saskatchewan resident. (For my excuse as to why I haven't done it yet, see here.)

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I was doing some work and I realized the maps for the economic regions of Manitoba, ie Parkland Region, Interlake Region, Eastman Region have all changed according to the mapping done from the 2021 Canadian census. I was wondering if you would be able to or interested in generating new maps to align with the new regions? Words in the Wind(talk) 04:59, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Saskatchewan Provincial Ridings

Hi. I see your work on the pages for the new Saskatchewan provincial ridings. I am currently working on a project to give some of these pages some much needed TLC and also updating them for the new boundaries coming into effect the next election. I am already getting started on these and I appreciate the new maps...one less thing for me to try to do myself. If you are interested in helping with this, let me know and we can chat more on this talk page. One issue of technicality...the new maps should not replace the current maps on the riding articles at this time, because the new boundaries do not come into effect until the writ drops (which won't be for another year and a half). Thank you! Brycecordry (talk) 06:00, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Glad others are willing to put some work into these articles!!! Re: timing I have no strong opinions for when this should be done as we are indeed currently in a state of uneasy co-existence between the two maps - I believe that both major parties are in the habit of re-constituting their riding associations and organizing "founding conventions" *as soon as* the final report comes out. But the current MLAs do technically represent their current territories only (you just wouldn't know it from the mailers and advertising that are already leaking across riding boundaries) so I see the legalistic argument for keeping already-existing ridings with the old maps.

I would like to help out but unfortunately I have started doing real-life contracting in a very closely related field so I have been hanging back out of CoI concerns. Awmcphee (talk) 06:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Best of luck in your endeavours. If you find a specific issue with something I write please let me know. Brycecordry (talk) 23:08, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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