User talk:A. B./April 2007

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Operationmajoritypower

Hi there. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have removed the warnings and apologised. Obviously I should have headed to bed 10 minutes sooner than I did. Regards, Flyguy649^talk_contribs 19:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I knew without a doubt your warnings were not malicious. You were not alone. Those edits of Operationmajoritypower's at first looked very fishy -- one of those change-the number-slightly vandal attacks which I think are especially insidious. When I looked closer, they turned out to be totally legit. I saw he'd merely reversed the order of the stats. I only happened to see your warnings because I did the same double-take myself on another of his edits and looked at his talk page. Fortunately, it wasn't my bed time yet! --A. B. ^(talk) 19:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that Operationmajoritypower has also started to use the edit summary to note the changes. It might have helped. Thanks again, Flyguy649^talk_contribs 19:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

movie reviews

How were my links to MovieMirth wrong? In the guideline of external links that are ok it says reviews and articles are fine. All my MovieMirth links were to movie reviews about bad movies. How did those violate any rules?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.134.41.88 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi. A couple of other editors tried to explain this to you and left you links to these important Wikipedia rules which should have answered your questions when you read them in March:

• Spam Guideline
  • This in turn talks about Conflict of interest Guidelines
• External Links Guideline
• What Wikipedia is not, in particular:
  • "Wikipedia is not a soapbox" (i.e., self-promotion and advertising)
  • "Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files"
• Blocking Policy
  • As it stands now, you're not yet blocked, but if you add any more links you may lose your editing privileges

The other two editors also told you not to add these links again, but you did so anyway.

Even if your links were encyclopedia-quality, they still would be inappropriate because you are not allowed to add links to your own site -- it's a conflict of interest and doing this is considered spamming and dealt with as spam.

You are welcome to ask for a second opinion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam if you still disagree after reading those rules. --A. B. ^(talk) 21:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Mr. A.B. - I won't add any more links to Wikipedia. My only remaining question is whether users of my sites are allowed to add links or will they be removed as well (even if appropriate)? I do not want any future linking done by others to affect my status any further. Will my sites ever be taken off the "blacklist"? Thanks. -AnxDet

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anxietydetective (talk • contribs) 03:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd say from looking at the history, it's unlikely these links will come off the blacklist. Multiple editors communicated to you that this sort of linking was unacceptable.[1][2][3][4][5] You might have gotten one last chance but then we found you had been spamming other wikipedias as well.[6][7][8][9] Once that happens, it's fairly standard for sites to get blacklisted since it's so hard to manage cross-wiki spamming otherwise.

I suggest you check out Dmoz -- I think you'll find it a much better place to list your links. I hope this helps. --A. B. ^(talk) 04:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so basically I got my less severe final warning... didn't add any links after that, then you guys found out the extent of links I had previously added and upped the warning to blacklisting? -AnxDet
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anxietydetective (talk • contribs) 05:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

We had not previously realized you'd had used 3 different accounts or that you were adding links on other Wikipedias. You did not, however, lose your editing privileges, which would have been the next step after the warning you got. As a means of dealing with multi-wikipedia, multi-account spamming, your links were blacklisted; that's a form of software blocking to keep any more from being added to any of our Wikipedias. --A. B. ^(talk) 05:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Anthony Minnuto

An article that you have been involved in editing, Anthony Minnuto, has been listed by me for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Minnuto. Thank you. --A. B. ^(talk) 20:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

PS You originally tagged the article 3 months ago.[10]

Thank You for the heads up. I added Strong delete. Rgds, - Trident13 21:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flags of ethnic groups -- suggestion

Hi. I don't mean to sound critical in my comments at the AfD about your nomination of this article but I really do encourage you to follow the AfD procedure's notification requirements (proper edit summaries) and suggestions (notifications to contributors) in the future. From my own experiences with articles I've taken to AfD, I found I've had better luck when I do this. --A. B. ^(talk) 15:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I was planing on doing that. I generally do not nominate large articles for deletion (it is generally nonsese, pov fork, and etc). -- Cat ^chi? 16:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I understand. I did make a "dummy edit" to the article so I could put the AfD in an edit summary. Also, I left a message about the AfD at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology#Broader question about flag articles raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flags of ethnic groups (wow, that's a long wikilink!). You may want to chip in there with your thoughts.--A. B. ^(talk) 16:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculous

Well sorry about the treatment you got on John T. Reed. Someone there has already got my prize for the most pathetic sysop I have ever come across but I'll leave you to guess which of the several sysops I mean... :) --BozMo talk 20:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll survive but it was pretty unimpressive. I guess constructing the "Question of the Day" above was my therapy. --A. B. ^(talk) 13:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you for the support vote in my recent RfA. Although it wasn't successful I appreciate your vote of confidence. Anyway, I'm continuing on with editing Pacific War-related articles and hopefully you'll see several of them on the FA nominations page in the future. Cla68 23:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Southern Thunder

Haha, yes, nice catch. I know it's a bit unorthodox, but it was a sort of a test to see if articles like that could stand (Wikipedia:WikiProject Vandalism studies). Most vandalism that we know about is usually non-wikified, but there are some instances where that is not the case. Just recently there was an article about a mullet festival backed up with sources pointing to event calendars, proving the festival existed. What we didn't find out until after a long time was that the Mullet Festival was in fact about fish, not hair styles, so the entire paragraph was false and had illuded us for the longest time. I was testing something like that, but I honestly forgot about it. May I ask how you found it? And just so you know, that article is the only test one I've made. --TinMan 03:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

About 10 weeks ago, I was checking out Category: Appalachian culture and saw this article. I deleted it from the category and noted Davidson County, North Carolina was hardly in the hills. Then I looked at it a little more and tagged it for notability.[11][12]. Yesterday, I went through my contribution history, checking the status of articles I'd tagged for notability this year and prod'ing the ones that were still tagged and inadequately referenced.

So this was purely a chance catch. --A. B. ^(talk) 12:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

PS, I've done a little work on your McMurdo-South Pole highway project, too.[13][14] --A. B. ^(talk) 12:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Appalachian English

Thanks for the encouragement! I've gotten diverted into ecology and climate topics, but I'm sure I'll come round to the Appalachians again. It is interesting how American regional topics of many kinds generate heated opinions and debate, sometimes seeming to edge into a dogmatic us-vs-them kinda thing. Maybe that's part of why I'm looking at ecology geography pages now -- much less hot-headedness over there! But I'll return -- my wikipediaing seems to flit from subject to subject semi-randomly. But the geography, culture, history, etc, of the Appalachians and the United States in general has been a long-term interest. Thanks again! Pfly 18:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC) ken

Im sorry for hurting your feelings it just cracks me up when people try to discuss my own ancestry as if its is their own in Southern -Ohio we are very very very very very different then places like Northern-Ohio dialect religion ancestry . Don't take it personal I forget how sensitive Yankees are Im sorry.Your saying hey Southern-Ohio is not the South. But let me tell you more then 75% of the people of southern-ohio are Southern Appalachian ethnicity like myself. the rest are Irish-German immigrants from the 1700-1800's that came frome virginia and kentucky come here check it out just don't call any-one a yankee.Im done with this website .

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.73.98.222 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 18 April 2007

If this was meant toward me, I'll just say that my paternal line is 1600-1700s Virginia, 1800s Tennessee, Arkansas, and Missouri, and leave it at that. Pfly 04:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Fighting against lyrics

So why the need to hate on my site so much when there are tons of other lyrics sites out there just like mine that are doing the same thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Contemporary_Christian_music#Christian_Lyrics_Network (Jonathan 18:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC))

Spam whitelist - what do you think?

At User:Eagle 101's request, I have gone to various editors seeking a consensus on this discussion, as I personally know the artist whose site it is - therefore, there is a small issue of WP:COI. Please take a look and leave your thoughts there.--Vox Humana 8' 23:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Defender of the Wiki Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		No one more deserving of the Defender of the Wiki Barnstar for fighting Spam on Wikipedia, is you. Thank You! Hu12 05:49, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Workers' Voice

I notice that you've prodded the Workers Voice article. I don't disagree with this, but there are several other things of this name which are notable or appear to be, so I've created a disambiguation page at Workers' Voice and suggest that instead of deleting the existing article, you redirect it to the new disambiguation page. Warofdreams talk 01:34, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Why not let's wait and see if the prod is contested - if not, we may as well redirect the article rather than deleting it. Warofdreams talk 03:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Link deletion

Explain to me with good reason why you deleted a link on the microphone page about microphone comparison case study. I expect good reason
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.245.61 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 23 April 2007

See[15] --A. B. ^(talk) 18:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Current_requests
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.234.62 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 26 April 2007

Arbitration request removed by arbitration clerk[16] with the comment "m complaint filed by blocked user evading block". Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration page temporarily protected from further disruption by anonymous IPs.[17]--A. B. ^(talk) 19:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Fotolia

• I replaced it because the author and his/her anon counterpart removed it counter to policy, that's all. I'm actually going to bed and don't have the energy to debate right now. Maybe later ^_^ JuJube 13:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

RE

I placed the tag because it was already deleted once: recreation of deleted articles is not a good thing by itself. But, well, if you can make it into a good article, go ahead. ~_^ 夢の騎士^{Yume no Kishi - Talk} 13:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Shadowbot

If you would get on IRC again... :P In any case if you get on IRC and shadow approves you (which I think he would knowing what you have done) you can add domains to the bots blacklist. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 05:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

OK. I just learned I have to be away for a while.--A. B. ^(talk) 13:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)