Greetings fellow editor
editHello, I notice that you are claiming that the USNVGT is active online. Can you shed some light on your claims? In case you were unaware that team ceased to exist decades ago. They had a trademark to the name but it has expired many years ago.
During the sale of Twin Galaxies from Walter Day to the new owner, some of the intellectual property was not handed over including the USNVGT. They have not had a single event, game, contest, tournament etc. since the 80's. Remember, friend, e-sports teams actually compete with other teams. datagod (talk) 🍁 19:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The modern USNVGT hosted events and a panel at the Mo Game Con in August 2017, at least one tournament was held by them in 2015 in Texas, member Lon Mcdonald has played hundreds of exhibition games of Joust over the past many years under the USNVGT name and the January 2017 issue of Play Meter Magazine had a multi page feature on the team's modern efforts.
- You are gaslighting using your inane one sided fued with Patrick Scot Patterson to make abusive edits of Wikipedia, claiming he is using the site to self-promote when the edits you are removing were input by numerous other parties. I asked him if he was using Wiki in any way and he was unaware of anything about it.
- But everything I posted to answer your question could be found quite quickly. You either do not wish to put forth the effort or you want to play stupid in order to justify your Rudy-like behavior toward a person who wouldn't care if you walked under a piano tomorrow.
- I will be reporting your vandalizm to Wiki should it continue. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Good sir, you make big claims but you didn't post any links to prove them. The USNVGT has been out of business for 7 years now. That is not current. Even their trademark has expired. Organizations that are serious will make sure to hang on to valuable intellectual property. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:23, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
You are claiming not to be Mr. Peterson, but you know his intimate thoughts. You are defending him in multiple articles, making sure his unsourced claims are restored. You claim to be on intimate speaking terms with him. Your IP address homes in directly to an area of town in Denton Texas that has storage units and Section 8 housing. You even mention his best friend Rudy. But of course you are not him. He would never use wikipedia or sock puppet accounts to support him. Regardless, your activity is being monitored and your ban is justified. datagod (talk) 🍁 01:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- you are claiming not to know Patterson and to claim to know his thoughts. You are removing him in multiple artciles in a clear conflict of inteest because you don't like him. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Mr. Petersen denied publicly today knowing anything about wiki edits at all. So you, anonymous user, either can't keep your lies straight or your didn't speak to him. Which is it? Is he lying about talking to you or are you lying about talking to him? In either case you have shown yourself to be untrustworthy and irrelevent. datagod (talk) 🍁 21:56, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- i dont see post by him but i asked him in email. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
editHi, I'm Serge, an Admin here on Wikipedia. I've seen you multiple times now restore unsourced information to Wikipedia. This is against policy. Wikipedia's entire premise is writing according to what can be verified by reliable sources. And the burden to find sources is on the person who is adding or restoring content.
Please do not add/restore any more unsourced content. See WP:REFB if you need help with how to add sources. But if you don't stop, you'll be blocked from editing or locked out of editing certain articles. Sergecross73 msg me 23:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Why is user Datagod able to edit articles about a person he knows in the first place? I was reverting his vandalism and conflict of interest. He hates Patterson and is trying to erase entries that have existed on wiki for many years. He should not be allowed to doo that by way of ur own rules. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- All I did was issue you a warning for restoring unsourced content without a source, which is not allowed on Wikipedia per WP:V and WP:BURDEN. You violated this. I did not warn Datagod of this because they did not violate this.
- That is the only thing I acted on, not anything else. You'd have to ask the other people about the other comments. I personally cannot make any sense of anything else going on between you too. You both seem to be throwing a ton of baseless, evidence-less accusations at each other instead of constructively discussing your disputes. FYI, this almost always tends to get both parties indefinitely blocked from editing Wikipedia, so I hope you both change how you're acting. Sergecross73 msg me 21:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you again for your patience. I am definitely trying to be constructive with the discussion below, hopefully we will agree upon a credible source that can be added into the articles. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- why user Datagod not ban? He reverted long standing wiki info about a person he does not like over and over and over and over but i get ban for trying to stop his vandalism? 35.135.179.48 (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, 35.135.179.48. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template);
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- why my reply deleted?
- I have no conflict of interest with any edits. I was reverting edits doen by Datagod, who does have a confilict of interest because he knows and hates the person whose name he is trying to delte from wikie. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I hate nobody. I wrote a declaration for the conflict of interest on my talk page. Please review at your earliest convenience. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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Making Wikipedia Better
editHello anonymous user 35.135.179.48. It was strongly suggested that we come to a talk area where we can continue our discussion.
I am afraid we may have gotten off on the wrong foot. My edits were simply to remove unsourced claims and links that have a conflict of interest.
You claim to be a very close friend of Mr. Peterson, perhaps even the eager young historian that he so fondly spoke of before. As you know, editing Wikipedia articles to include links to paid promotions and articles that you or Mr. Peterson wrote yourself (and received a well deserved small compensation for) is known as a conflict of interest. You failed to disclose this conflict. There are forms you can fill out. Back in 2017 another anonymous account who claimed to be the best friend of Mr. Peterson was also doing the same thing with the USNVGT page. Making unsourced edits, removing edits by others that went against your narrative. The USNVGT as you know played a vital part of the early history of e-sports -- especially under the guidance of Walter Day. Somehow Mr. Peterson claimed he was the new owner, and all of a sudden the wikipedia article was modified to point back to his own personal website, his youtube channel, etc. All of which are against the guidelines for self promotion and conflicts of interest. An anonymous account made the changes, yet on social media Mr. Peterson complained daily about how the wikipedia editors are "out of touch" and "don't understand video game history" etc. Denying any direct involvement, yet within minutes the anonymous account would make changes on wikipedia and he would complain about other editors reverting his changes.
Of course I am not saying you are the same anonymous account. I am just discussing how strange it is that TWO anonymous wikipedia editors both claim to be best friends with Mr. Peterson while also modifying articles to put him in a positive light and link back to his websites and social media accounts.
I would also like to point out that this particular IP address geo-locates to the local library where Mr. Peterson does most of his video work. It is an attractive historical building, so kudos to him for upping his game that way.
If you would like to explain how this is not a conflict of interest, and if you like to provide proper citation for your links we can certainly work together on that and fix up the articles so they are no longer violating the policies.
I look forward to working with you on this matter. Feel free to reach out to me on this platform any time. datagod (talk) 🍁 15:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- why my reply deleted?> 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- you lie. i never said i know him or are friends. only person with conflict of interest and narrative here is you. yuo are using your negative feelings on Patterson to justify deleting mentions of him. you also hide my 1st reply here because it didnt' fit your narrative. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 17:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- i also not at library and dont know why you lie 35.135.179.48 (talk) 19:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Citation and linking Discussion
edithttps://www.espn.com/espn/thelife/videogames/blog/_/name/thegamer/id/5184078
https://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/13/collector-finds-multiple-copies-of-lost-akira-game-boy-game
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/denton-man-goes-pro-as-video-game-expert-and-historian/88705/
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/gamer-community-not-happy-with-nras-statement-on-gun-control/
https://cw33.com/news/preserving-rare-pieces-of-history-history-is-one-mans-lifelong-goal/amp/
i just google only took a second
so i guess if you are going to like and claim not to know him and claim it about citations then I expect you to add all of these to the relevant artciles before i show wiki mods the links that prove you know Patterson or at least did and harbor a deep personal resentment of him and violated wiki policy with your eidts
Lets start with Man vs Snake. It was an interesting movie with some great characters in it. If you believe that Mr. Peterson's review should be added on the page, please provide the link here and we can discuss how to properly add the link. I am assuming you have a live link or an archived link. I could not find it when I checked which is why I removed the reference and comments made by Mr. Peterson. If he worked for a company that paid him to write the movie review that should be disclosed as well. I know it can be frustrating when sites like G4 or EC3 shut down and delete their articles, but we should be able to work together to comb through the internet archive and find the article that way.
Here are some suggestions that we could add to the page:
Den of Geek - Review of Man vs Snake [1]
IGN - Review by Chris Tulley [2]
What we can do with this article is look up the scores that were set at the event and make sure we link to the appropriate notable source. For example, if the scores were tracked by Twin Galaxies or Aurcade, we can link to those. Or if a writer created an article, we could link to the article. What is important is that we have links to relevant sources and not just fluff.
Why you delete my post with the source huh huh huh?
LIAR
https://www.classicarcadegaming.com/forums/index.php/topic,3182.msg47366.html#msg47366
List of scores from event reported onn
You post an interesting link. It is a classic arcade forum with posts describing the event that occurred many years ago. I don't think it qualifies as a credible source.
Points to consider with regards to links:
Reliability Forum posts are generally not considered reliable sources on Wikipedia because they lack editorial oversight and fact-checking processes. The information presented in forum posts may be anecdotal, speculative, or biased.
Verifiability Wikipedia requires information to be verifiable from reliable sources. Forum posts may not meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability, as they are often user-generated content without proper citations or references.
Neutrality Forum posts may reflect the opinions or experiences of individual users rather than neutral, objective information. Wikipedia aims to present information in a neutral manner, so relying on forum posts for content may introduce bias.
that is excuse that is a report by a third party person reporting on the show. look those scores up in your galaxy website and confirm again rather than excuse yourself.
review was added years ago i do not have a link now an no idea on if he was paid for it. don't pretend you removed it for any reason other than it was his name because you said different when you removed it claiming it was him selfe promoting
Please, lets stick to the topic at hand and not get into personal attacks. I want to make the article better, and so do you. Please provide the information and we can both come to an agreement on how to make sure the article complies to the rules and does not contain irrelevant link. Also, if you use four tilds at the end of your comment, it will make things easier to read. datagod (talk) 🍁 20:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- so now you dont' want to be negative? are you pretending for the wiki mods that your removal of Patrick Scot Patterson's content was anything but personal attacks against him?
- why are you ignoring my notes about conflict of interest? you know him, so you should not be editing him out of pagesa ccording to wiki rules
- talk to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 35.135.179.48 (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Friend, I don't "know" him. I know of him. He has been on several TV shows (Frankenfood, Collector's Corner, etc.). His largest show that I know of to date was an episode of the the Completely Unnecessary Podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfkvp9kteZE where they covered his efforts to sell undumped rare prototypes from various gaming systems.
- So lets get back to business. Please provide some links and we can format them for the articles. datagod (talk) 🍁 20:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- that is a lie. you are known for hating on him all over socil media for years and years. you like and say i know him and now you lie and say you dont. you only claim now that cuz you want to lie to avoid a ban for breaking wikie rules.
- are u saying for the record that you have never met him or talked to him directly or engaged in business with him or made posts on social media about him? cuz i can find links to cite those if you want 2 35.135.179.48 (talk) 21:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please let us get back to fixing the articles and stop with the personal attacks. datagod (talk) 🍁 21:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- why u not answer? cuz you know you are busted right?
- you know Patterson and harbor a bad opinion of him and u edited articles with him it in with a conflict of interest. u are avoiding the question because you know you qualify for ban 35.135.179.48 (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please let us get back to fixing the articles and stop with the personal attacks. datagod (talk) 🍁 21:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
If you could just calm down a bit and look at the history, you will see I have not deleted anything. There are other editors who are trying to keep things clear. I will take a look at the links you posted. If they are third party independent sources and not paid articles written by Mr. Petersen, then by all means feel free to add them to the original articles. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- you deleted metnions of patterson on many articls and tried to on the mario one but got warned by an editor. your story has kept changing and you will not answer my questions to you about conflict of interest honestly or in full. you claim not to know him but you can be found on kick starter yelling at him an interacting directly. your you tube has videos that talk about him and describe interactions withh him. your edits of material about him is a conflict of interest. you know him and have some issue with him personally and you are gasslighting exchuses here 35.135.179.48 (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- all those are third party none are written by him. if you add them to the articles approrirate then i wil lchange my opinion on you. but i bet you wont because you hate him. 35.135.179.48 (talk) 13:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- If you want to add content to Wikipedia, then it is your WP:BURDEN to find the sources that WP:VERIFY it, and place them in the article. The responsibility is yours, not anyone else's.
- Read WP:REFB if you need help on how to do add sources to articles. But you've got to cut it out with this combative commentary line this. Wikipedia is a collaborative project. If you can't collaborate civilly with others, you'll be blocked from editing. Sergecross73 msg me 13:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
editPlease stop. If you continue to assume bad faith when dealing with other editors, you may be blocked from editing. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. You are very close to being blocked again. Ad Orientem (talk) 22:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- i do not understand this web site then. Datagod can be found all over social media Kick starter and youtube trashing Patterson for years. Even stating that he knows him well. His mass deletion of anything related to Patterson is a clear conflict of interest and clearly vandalizm but i am the only one being punished for it. why? 35.135.179.48 (talk) 13:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- We cannot police what goes on off of Wikipedia. That's outside of our scope. We only can control what happens here. On Wikipedia, Datagod is within his right to remove unsourced content on Wikipedia. If you restore the content with reliable sources that verify the content, that would be an appropriate response. Please focus on trying to do that rather than hurling evidence-less accusations at Datagod. Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- but his hatred of patterson is a conflict of interst as described. not asking you to police what happens, but he knows patterson and there is online banter between them directly. he is too close to the subjec tof Patterson to be making any edits regarding him.
- i have provided a series of easy to find links in this discussion that he or any of you could quickly add to any article but we know he won't.
- but i will stop telling ht etruth bout Datagods motivations if that is what you want. but he has to stop doing it toward me and Patterson to. He keeps tcallin ghim by wrong name on purpose for example. hurls accussations and i don't see you scoliding him for them. just me 35.135.179.48 (talk) 13:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Because you're the one editing in violation of our policies and guidelines. Maybe Datagod does hate Patterson. Maybe he regularly talks about how much he hates Patterson on social media. That's not a conflict of interest though. Multiple users, from different geographical locations and ISPs, have attempted to remove the promotional edits you've done for Patterson over the last 7+ years. You always pop up a little while later to try to restore them. This gives every impression of a promotional conflict of interest. At the very least, no one spends 8 years protecting a non-notable individual on Wikipedia without some sort of personal investment in it. If Datagod has a COI for "hating" Patterson, it's clear you have a COI for "liking" Patterson. (Hating or liking Patterson is not a COI either way). -- ferret (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Wiki editor specifically said this sort of thing was conflict of interest but it only sems to apply to me 35.135.179.48 (talk) 13:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- We cannot police what goes on off of Wikipedia. That's outside of our scope. We only can control what happens here. On Wikipedia, Datagod is within his right to remove unsourced content on Wikipedia. If you restore the content with reliable sources that verify the content, that would be an appropriate response. Please focus on trying to do that rather than hurling evidence-less accusations at Datagod. Sergecross73 msg me 13:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Endorsed. The IP has not given me a single response to me that indicates they understand the issue or intend on changing their problematic approach. Sergecross73 msg me 15:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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