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(talk page stalker) I am talking to a bot as well. I was actually happy to get a notice. No one else has stopped by for quite some time. ツ All the best, Fylbecatuloustalk 11:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Indeed... the "talk" page can be a lonely place! One as fancy, dancy as yours, though, feels very inviting. It's the least that a "talk page stalker" like you could do, of course. [grin] Seriously, though... nice talk page.
Y answered at your talkpage, likewise: Thank you muchly Fylbecatuloustalk 22:43, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 22:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
K. Thank you. Perhaps I should try to become a patroller after all this time. I am on Simple Wikipedia. But that is because I write articles there and am a trusted user. LOL. Here, all I do is create new subpages. (There is another one you have not found yet... ) And I do realise I am answering back a templated message. ツ Here, I can haz image too...Fylbecatuloustalk 22:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Pink cat
You may be interested in an article on pink cats I have just cobbled together. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 14:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Ritchie333, absolutely I am interested. This cat is so darling I am talking baby talk. ツ I could just hug... I think I will soon adapt this for Simple English Wikipedia. Thanks. (Meow...)Fylbecatuloustalk 01:39, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Ritchie333, your very nicely cobbled together pink cats are now on Simple Wikipedia. Your article has received proper attribution, of course, but I also tipped my hat to you in my edit summary for the talk page template. Kind regards, Fylbecatuloustalk 16:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know much about Simple Wikipedia, but my children have looked at its page on cats. If I can confirm that it's a good place that has things suitable for children and educational for them, I'll take a closer look. The only concern I have is if you tell a bunch of children about the pink cat dyeing incident, somebody might copy it. (WP:BEANS and all that). Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 16:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for reviewing my article on Verónica Cruz Sánchez. I had forgotten to go back and put in the links to other articles in Wikipedia and appreciate the reminder. With Mexico, I never put them in as I am going, as I am never sure if the links will be in Spanish, or in English. Usually it is a mix and I have to look them up to see if there is a direct link for Mexico. They're in there now :) SusunW (talk) 20:46, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
YSusunW, awesome! I have thusly removed my issue tag. All the best and happy editing. ツ Fylbecatuloustalk 21:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
A1 and A3
Hi Fylbecatulous, may I remind you of the instructions not to apply A1 and A3 tags in the first few minutes after an article is created? Sometimes those deletion tags drive away the very second edit that would have made the tag itself superfluous.I agree that Sandip Narwade would have been correctly tagged if you had waited a bit longer, but just two minutes after the article is created means we may well get no further edits from that editor. Thanks and happy editing ϢereSpielChequers 21:21, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
WereSpielChequers, Please accept my apology. I am aware of the guidelines, but I most assuredly rushed this one. I usually wait an hour before even considering what needs to be done...My bad. With no excuses. Thanks for the reminder. Happy editing to you as well. PS. There is something wrong with my page format. My last several new posts have landed at the top. Not you, but my page format, apparently. I shall sort that out instead of page curation for a bit. All the best. Fylbecatuloustalk 21:29, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
WereSpielChequers, I am so sorrowful that I have just tried my best to undo my wrongs. I have taken off the speedy delete tag from the article and have deleted the automatic notice that page curation places at the editor's talk page. The last thing I want to do is drive off anyone or hurt anyone's feelings. (The talk page now has another notice regarding an autobiography article, but I am not sure what that is about). At least I have reverted myself. In further contriteness, Fylbecatuloustalk 21:44, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, it is a difficult one to balance, I tend to hover at the very front of the queue when I do newpage patrol, but then I'm mainly concerned about deleting attack pages as fast as they come in and I usually leave anything "goodfaith" to others. I did long ago suggest a delayed action goodfaith tag so that if there were no further edits after a certain number of hours the A1 or A3 tag would go live, and in the meantime other taggers would ignore the article but the creator would be blissfully unaware that if they didn't do a further edit in x hours the tag would be added. But I guess that would be complex to code. ϢereSpielChequers 21:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again with much gratitude. Fylbecatuloustalk 22:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
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Hi - regarding the removal of the citation needed in the Bicolor Cat page - the reference given simply shows that T S Elliot wrote a poem about a group of cats who happened to be bicolor. He called it The Song of the Jellicles. All the reference shows is that T S Elliot used the term, it does not show that the word is used in the UK to describe a bicolor cat.
Hi, I am also going to answer on your talk page because I can't sent you a notification ( WP:PING ) since you are editing unregistered. Therefore you might not see this unless you are watching my page. You have pointed out a flaw in the sentence that I had not noticed. See what you think of the change I made. I wish you happy editing. Fylbecatuloustalk 15:28, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
to not say "meow" but a kind of " 'eow" sound. Cats tend to look round for the "other cat" and ignore me. Dogs don't seem to grasp that it's me that's making the sound, and they go on the alert. Humans just get confused. Sometimes, on a hot summer night, I lie on a garden wall and get shoes thrown at me. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 21:39, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Fylbe defending herself against cats, dogs, 'eows and various tossed items of attack...
Xanty, such wonderfully funny advice in typically non sequitur fashion. How I now wish to lie on a garden wall at night, practising my eows and fending off dirty shoes. Alas, where I live we are not allowed strays of any sort. You all would qualify for the 'animal control' cage. ツ Thusly, I hereby award you this howlingly good graffiti image as reward for bringing me laughter. Fylbecatuloustalk 15:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Wow! Thanks! That's good- very artistic in its use of "accident"- I think it's not a B***sy (blanked out the name 'cos copyright) but I'm not an expert (or even an amateur) on the subject. His work seems to be more precise and tighter and this is better. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 19:10, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
'eow
Tortitude
Hello, I am looking to improve the wiki article for tortoiseshell cat. I'd like to find sources information on tortitude and was wondering if you could help? Popish Plot (talk) 18:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Popish Plot, thanks for asking. I am going to bring the discussion to the article talk page. I was sad it had to be deleted in the first place. I know it is true as a behaviour but several other good editors and I could find nothing before. Many cat related sources are not trustworthy, since we all just love our felines and want to express experience over what is scientific. I will try. ツ Fylbecatuloustalk 20:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes I already brought it up as a new topic on that talk page. But I also saw it being discussed in the past and you were bringing up good points so I wanted to bring it to your attention here on your page. I was looking for sources that are specifically published studies not just a cat fan website or something less reliable. I am not going to try to prove whether tortitude scientifically exists yes or no, but just prove that it is a phenomenon that many tortoiseshell cat owners feel they have tortitude. I don't think it's a minor trivial non notable thing but a widespread belief. And I won't do original research, just look at research already done by cat experts. Popish Plot (talk) 15:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Y: moved this conversation to talk:Tortoiseshell cat and answered further there. Left message on editor's talk page to inform, I have finally answered...
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Ah, women...
Ar, I have one of those days when I think women are stupid, false, narrow minded and hysterical and only care for their precious feelings, while try being seductive - and go on crying on peoples shoulders, oh, feel sorry for me ... Hafspajen (talk) 19:05, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
This was said about me after I revealed my gender and my most unhappy illness to Hafs. (Xanthomelanouss' talk page)...So much for no sexist or derogatory comments on women; the gender gap and empathy. Bye, Hafs (I haz three diffs to prove it...)
Vigilant helper
Very sorry to see you so hurt. About 7 December: I hope you saw the recent revelation, but it is probably deleted by now. I think the person involved may have assumed that you had guessed something about them; those remarks had a special relevance to that person. I think it looks like an accident that the person seemed to be including you in their tirade, and I think it wasn't at all what they meant to imply. (please feel free to delete this message. I'd send email to you, but you don't have it enabled. Feel free to email me if you'd like to communicate more.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 12:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Sminthopsis84, thanks for this note. Here is another diff with more of the story from a talk page archive: [1]. At this time, I don't suppose it matters now that I have linked to it. The entire section is relevant. For a long time I licked my emotional wounds, because I felt it was only me that was exposed to this and was losing a friend I cared for very much. Now I know otherwise. Others have endured as I did. (and even the poor cat). sigh... Yes I did see the recent revelation, which makes it all the more mystifying ~ why? I just enabled my email, at least for awhile. Feel free to use it if you wish and I may as well do so. No need to expand this further here. Paw pats and purrs to you, Fylbecatuloustalk 12:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Fylbecatulous; you have email from me now. It is certainly mystifying how people can write material that is so easily misunderstood by their audience, but not understand that when they re-read it themselves, even when the problem is pointed out. Paw pats and purrs to you too. (The paw pats remind me that I must trim somebody's claws, a black-and-white rotund somebody's; he doesn't alway understand where cloth ends and skin begins.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Like your kittycats
I like your kittehs, I also like your editing window message. Curious if your comments at Drmies page were a caution (which I am listening to...I may or may not take the sound advice being offered) or if they were an expression that you personally would oppose an RfA if I filed for one. I truly am testing the waters because I know I have made some enemies. I haven't decided how much drama I'm willing to put up with (though my tolerance for conflict is, obviously, pretty high), which is why I'm floating some trial balloons. Montanabw(talk) 16:27, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Montanabw, my caution to you was everything in general and nothing personal. If you can take the heat, please attempt the journey to adminship in a hot-air balloon. ツ My tolerance for conflict is in the negative numbers. Hence my edit window message. The person who appeared just up above this section did not respect it and their comments are thereby redacted and replaced with the hearts and flowers images. Thanks for inquiring further. Have no fear. My claws occasionally come out if I am treated with meanness. I have been known to oppose candidates for incivility and meanness in general. I do not sense that in you. Here is my diff for the latest "selection process", Richie333 (who has visited my page and we share a similar interest in pink cats) : [2]. See how gleefully I support them? I promise the same for you. I am in your corner just for keeping a duck box. It is arduous to keep track of evidence and similar behaviour and why ever you are, you were watching one of the two editors banned from my page. Wishing you all the best, in solidarity. Fylbecatuloustalk 23:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Feel free to shoot me an email if you have further comments - or make them publicly here, either is fine with me. You might also be interested in the LTA page that came out of the duck box discussion. I still have issues with returned users who hide their previous identities, but I've decided that sock-hunting is crazy-making so best to focus on current behavior. And that seems to work just about as well - or not. Montanabw(talk) 01:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Apology
In a fit of frustration, I said something very insensitive a while back that hurt your feelings. I was cynical and I was wrong. I want to apologize again. I am sorry. Cullen328Let's discuss it 02:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Cullen328, I apologise that I have not forgiven you already. I am sorry for being so sensitive and for letting this go on so long. Wishing you peace. Fylbecatuloustalk 12:24, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
regarding your decline to my changes to Krishna Iyer's Page.
can't buy me WikiLove...
regarding your decline to my changes to Krishna Iyer's Page.
hello, i have made changes now and its about him, so i dnt think you can actually rate it to be not constructive. i have added few of his personal data and his photograph too. please do not decline Krishnamadhu (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Ysigh... another editor declined. alas.
this is again regarding my decline!
there is no source for Krishna! so i just took a step to make it! If the details are here other websites can look into Wiki is what my idea was. FYI, i am Krishna's cousin! :) so the decision lies to u! :) :) and by the way i feel there was nothing faulty or ambiguous about him. so please consider. the information was edited only for the well being of the person and not for any other purpose! sorry if i am breaking the rule! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnamadhu (talk • contribs) 14:04, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Krishnamadhu, It was another editor who declined your second changes. So my decision stands even more. If you are his cousin, you have a WP:Conflict of interest by our rules. I am going to put some information on your page about that. Being a close relative is not a reliable source. Fylbecatuloustalk 14:24, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
GM food RFC
Note about this RfC where you !voted or commented. I tweaked the statement to make it more clear that it is about eating GM food and health. I'm notifying each person who !voted, in case that matters to you. Sorry for the trouble. Jytdog (talk) 21:18, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Y Have commented and !voted at the most crazed RfC ever. Hence the fierce cat...
Current RfC at WT:RFA
Hi Fyl, quick question, the answer will help me in my role as closer. At a quick glance, it looks like everyone who voted recently voted "No", except you. Did you see the thread because you were watching or dropping by WT:RFA, or did you see it as an RfC or WP:CENT notice? - Dank (push to talk) 17:02, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Dank, Okay, so here's my history for today and this is probably more than you are seeking: first, I finally !voted at the dastardly GM food RFC (see above on this talk page with the snarly cat): diff:[3] because I have commented and have been following it. Next I checked on the MoS proposal that is still open on the Village Pump proposals, where I have heartedly taken part. Nothing new there, except it needs closing: [4]. So I always follow the WP:CD template that lives at the VP. So first I !voted oppose in the BRD RfC.:[5] and then lastly I chose to !vote in the banning IPs from RfA.: [6] I definately support having IPs register to take part in the process. So my short answer is "I followed the trail from WP:CD". Do I have my comment or vote backward from what I need (???) If so I will repair it. Thanks.ツ Fylbecatuloustalk 17:32, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Add: I definitely read all the comments with the !votes before casting mine. Sometimes I will say "echoing someone" or "per someone". This time I didn't but to some extent I was echoing Ritchie333's comments. Fylbecatuloustalk 17:39, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Heh, thanks, that's great, more than I needed :) I was wondering if there was a pattern that everyone from WT:RFA was supporting and everyone from WP:CD was opposing, but things have gotten more complicated since then. I've made my proposal to close. - Dank (push to talk) 17:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
To clarify ... my intention here wasn't to challenge your vote in any way, I just wanted to understand better what was happening in the RfC, whether it was everyone in one place thinking one way and everyone else disagreeing, or something else, to help me start writing a closing statement. You've probably noticed from my comments there that I favor the opposition to some extent, but the supporters are saying very important things too, things that shouldn't get lost along the way. Thanks for voting. - Dank (push to talk) 20:31, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Your deletions of my changes to the Luigi Rosselli entry
Fybecatulous regret you've deleted all my work today on the Luigi Rosselli page, these were edits in progress and I was just about to start doing the hotlinks and updating the references in detail -- in response to half a dozen notes of concern that wikipedia placed on the earlier version of the article. Could you consider delaying your deletions until after editors have been able to respond to your concerns? Regards and thanks from DandelionzDandelionz (talk) 12:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Dandelionz, this is a biography of a living person. Feel free to add content that is sourced at the time of addition. Birthdates, naming parentage and ethnicity are never to be added without a reliable source. Please read the links I have provided. When you are adding more content without sources to an article that already is lacking citations, that does not seem helpful. I have the article on my watchlist now, so I will assume good faith and look forward to seeing your additions. I have trimmed some of the worst promotional phrasing, and have removed two of the issue tags. All the best, Fylbecatuloustalk 12:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for this info. I will now transfer all discussions re my editing to my talk page and the relevant article talk pages. Dandelionz (talk) 22:54, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
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I learned a lot from your edits on the Nightowls music band page.... ----Cityside189 (talk) 21:56, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Cityside189, thank you and I am happy to meet you. I read your user page; you have had an amazing beginning here! Wishing you all the best, Fylbecatuloustalk 12:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Apology and Understanding
This is the wrong version. Any sysop is requested to change this talk page into another wrong version. Thank you. Fylbe.
N/A
Hi Fylbecatulous,
I want to say is I am sorry for the edits. I did not mean to deliberately vandalize the edits for Spike Dudley, Shannon Hoon/Blind Melon, and Layne Staley/Alice In Chains. Please don't judge me for this. If you're interested here are resources the information I edited. Layne Stlaey mentions tha the lived with Hoon in this video at 3:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emt_WlEqlfU. Spike Dudley height is 5"5 as it said in this website and other search engines http://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=162. The No Excuses video was in 1996 as it was the copyright date https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r80HF68KM8g. Please forgive me. If you have any questions or want to discuss this please feel free Kingzwest (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
infobox-3: This user speaks several dialects of parameters...
Thank you for correcting my mistake regarding the background field. I had never noticed the field before when editing other biographies, and to be honest I thought its insertion was a mistake made by the non-native English speaker who created the article.
While looking into the reasons for having the field, I discovered there were 15 pages in Category:Infobox musical artist with missing or invalid Background field. So as pennance I fixed all the pages and cleared the category. You learn something new every day! AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:58, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Athomeinkobe, you are welcome. That category guarantees me enough work every morning to last through my coffee. ツ Most editors use an infobox by copying from another article and never read the template itself for instructions. It is funny, really, that is takes precise coding to provide the pretty background colours. All the best and happy editing! Fylbecatuloustalk 12:29, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
The Babys
A persistent editor appears to be constantly looking to revert the article to reflect their point of view. They are also aggressive. Stedbeat (talk) 13:58, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Stedbeat Yes; it continues. Alas, I do not engage in edit wars. Hopefully the article will be page protected again soon, as it has been before. Thanks, Fylbecatuloustalk 13:53, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Checking... (please have a look at this discussion) adding link to discussion for myself; been unavailable since 17th, sadly sorry) Fylbecatuloustalk 12:44, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Stuck
I iz done. Commented in both AfDs. Some proof / style repairs to both articles. Do not really have cats invested in these races. Being cats, they would just eat the tuna fish... Fylbecatuloustalk 14:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Magic cures for linkrot
Fylbecatulous Thanks for all your help with The Nightowls article. I’ve learned a lot by looking at what you’ve done.
I was wondering if you could explain a few things so I can learn more.
When I add a URL - I see that you expand the reference with codes like Cite weburl= or Cite webtitle =, the access date, author etc. Your notes say someone about “filling in a bare reference”? i.e. the Nobody But You single & the reference to the Austin Monthly-Austin Amplified. Or wherever the URL for the Nigthowls Website is used.
I see coding with the words ref name=
ref name=ten after the link to the Soul Music article
ref name-apple1 after the Get Up single release note
I just added a reference to The Nightowls from a review that I found on this UK website – propermusic.com. I’ll take a look at how you update this. I really want to tout that it’s a UK site due to the international exposure, especially because they are playing the internationally know Austin City Limits Music Festival next week.
Next I want to work on an article I found - “Music of Austin, Texas” – which I’m very into. It’s very extensive but needs some work. There are a lot of notes on things that have Wikipedia articles that are not coded as such. I want to add some information i.e. Black Fret is a 2 yr old philanthropic organization modeled on the “patronages of Opera, Museums” etc. – but with a focus on supporting musician. It’s comprised of some “movers & shakers’, connected people with deep pockets etc. & they’re building a 2 million dollar endowment. They provide grants & give great support to musicians throughout the year.
Thanks again for your guidance and help.
David R AustinTx (talk) 00:55, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Good morning, happy to help.
A little reading and access to a couple of tools will give you the freedom and knowledge to be the excellent editor you desire to be.
I am a big fan of tools here. Much can be done manually, but for example WP:HOTCAT makes mincemeat out of adding categories for me.
A. So a bane for Wikipedia is linkrot or "bare urls". Here is a link:(click through): WP:LINKROT. This explains the concept of avoiding and repairing citations with bare urls.
B. Then this link that gives one all the templates WP:Citation templates, but that page is eye-wateringly complex and one must copy and paste and fill in each citation by hand.
C. But there is a template tool for this that makes this almost automated.
a. In your editing window there should be a toolbar with helps such as 'bold', 'signatures', 'special characters' to just click to add in your edit. At the very right end should be a choice named "cite".
b. If not go to Your Preferences > Gadgets> and under gadgets is refToolbar, adds a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates. (HotCat) also lives there...) Tick the box to add refToolbar and save. This gives you the "cite" template on your toolbar.
c. When you click it now a templates window will now be there (mine is on the left side) with four options. So click one the one you need (probably for you 'cite web' or 'cite news') and click 'show extra fields'. Just fill in the fields you want by copy/paste; preview and insert into article.The magic is done :)
D. Here now is the most amazing news of all. Go to the 'Revision History' of The Nightowls and where I changed the last citation format, my edit summary says "Filled in 1 bare reference(s) with ReFill" Click on Refill (in my edit summary if you want) and you will have info on that tool. There is a solf-direct to https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/, the tool itself. This is how one can repair in an instant an already bare url (if the editor has put in enough fields). It will even group the like references under the same name for you. I keep Refill bookmarked https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/.
a. So on the reFill tool enter The Nightowls in the 'page name'; 'en' is already default for English Wikipedia.
b. Untick the choice for "Do not add access dates' that is ticked by default.That way you also get the access date in your citation and if it is now a 404 error reFill will leave it out. You only have one bare link in your article but the tool will repair twenty or more all at once.
c. So I already tested the one for your last citation. Sure enough, it is a good reference...so if you want to give this a try I will leave it for you to practise. Your new reference in the reFill tool will be in yellow and blue and have a button that says 'preview/save on wiki' and choosing that will take you back to your edit window where you can preview and save, same as all other edits.
Now you will have the same edit summary as I did...
Sorry to be so wordy... All the best as always, David, Fylbecatuloustalk 12:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Fylbecatulous!! I'm going to look thru every thing you suggested. and no - you can never be to wordy when it comes to giving someone guidance on Wikipedia! I've been finding with Wikipedia - when you go to look up a topic or code - It has so much information it can be overwhelming. I start clicking thru various links on something I'm trying to figure out & then find I'm really deep into something & lost sight of what I was searching for LOL. Your guidance on my questions is very helpful - it tells me what I need to focus on especially the tools that are available to use for learning how to do this. It's a bit to digest so I'm going to look thru it all & then use the reference I added to practice on. This is something important for me to understand as I begin to edit more - adding URL references is something so commonly done. I'm going to pass this info on to Cityside189. He has also done a lot of work on The Nightowls article & I see where he posted you a thanks as well and - like me - has learned a lot by looking at your work on it. Thanks again!! David R AustinTx (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
David, thank you. :) Actually, you can just start with step letter "D" and repair your reference. I just gave you the background pages for reference. But there would really be no harm in just doing your references however you already are; saving them and then going back and repairing them with https://tools.wmflabs.org/refill/. <smiles>. we each learn to edit one step at a time. I will soon be here four years and I still pick up new tricks... Fylbecatuloustalk 20:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
*Another problem with trying to read a bare url is it is just alphabet soup. Until it is properly formatted with the publisher, author, article title and dates, it really has no meaning. This was part of the problem with the article in the beginning. If you look back in the history, no one could tell that many of the sources were good when they were just bare links to their websites. Fylbecatuloustalk 19:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Adding Images - pixel question
Fylbecatulous Thanks for adding the picture to the Nightowls article! As you saw, I tried editing the code you entered for the previous image & by just replacing the file name - but it didn't seem to come out in the preview so I reversed it. Thanks again for being proactive & doing it. I don't understand the "px" i.e. 400px for this or the 275px for the other pic. I looked at the detailed information about the pics & it has a bunch of pixel sizes - but I don't see how they relate to the 275px or 400px?
Thanks to your previous guidance, I was able to add a new URL and run the refill template to fix it.
As you saw, the band is doing very well. I went to see them at ACL & they had a large enthusiastic crowd. They've extended their tour & have been picked for SXSW again. That's a huge deal - over 8,000 artist apply from around the world & only 2,000 get selected.
I know you like cat pictures – I have one I want to send you. Maybe I can use this as a test to see if I understand the “px” question. I’m having trouble even finding this pic to look at the details. I get to some screen where it looks like it’s for searching Wikipedia Commons – but when I tried searching for the Nightowls - it just showed the BOTG & Stubbs pics – not the new one. This also doesn’t work for my cat pic.
Thanks again as always for your guidance & help.
David R AustinTx (talk) 22:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
David R AustinTx, Good morning! Yes, I upgraded the article class and importance ratings on their talk page for the Musicians WikiProject workgroup and added them to another WikiProject. If someone doesn't come along and assess the article for the second WikiProject I will do it myself. I feel they are now of mid importance . Fylbecatuloustalk 12:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
1. The pixels (px) part of the formatting give the image a size on the article page. I originally increased the size for the infobox one so it would be bigger, since that image appears dark unless you click through to see the entire image. (that is what the thumbnail setting does) So for the first one in the member section from 2014, making the size 275px (same as infobox) gave it a nice look in that section, not too small, not too overbearing. But your new image that I just added (performing at ACL 2015) was much too small at 275 px. It was the size of a postage stamp and the band looked lost in the woods. So I increased it to 400px so it would fill more of the section. I almost made it 425px. Test it yourself in "show preview" and if you like it a bit larger change it to 425px.
2. Finding your images on Commons. The last you added you placed in a category for "musicians from Texas". Hurray! I added it to two more categories and also added your earlier ones to three. When they become important enough and you have enough images, the band name can have its own category. (Like R.E.M. or Earth, Wind & Fire). The categories is how anyone hunts down an image on commons so the more categories the better. My cat Fearless is in eight categories :)) So you have a user page, talk page and contributions page on Commons just like here. Go to one of your description pages on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nightowls_BOTG.JPG and there is a section named "file history". The fifth box in the row will say "user" You have a talk page and a contribution page with content. Click through to your contributions and voila! there are your four images safe for you to see and edit. I see a cat image but I am not going to look. You may surprise me. Many on my pages are gifts from others. Thanks again :)) Fylbecatuloustalk 12:31, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
3. Oh! I always forget something. Any image on Commons that you like or want to be able to find again; you can haz watchlist there for images just like here for whatever. Just click on "watch" at the top of the page for the image to add it. Then right above that row is another row that has "watchlist" for you to see what has happened or just admire. :)) Fylbecatuloustalk 16:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
beautiful Natasha gift with fish necklace is residing in my Wikilove and gifts with a menagerie of kittens, cats, puppies and a monkey ツ thanks...
Fylbecatulous OK So I tried various ways of coding to add my cat pic by looking at others & nothing worked. All I got was a white box with the file name and a description. I tried using various combinations for the pic like this Natasha _super_model_cat.XXX|thumb|various px|put left to align. I didn't how to write this without it picking up the coding or the pic file name showing with no image (is there a way to do this?) - so i left off the words FILE, jpg & brackets. I wanted to say "My cat Natasha as a young super model wanna be". Maybe you can edit it & show me what I should have done?
Anyway it's a picture of Natasha - my beautiful Seal Point Siamese cat I had in NYC. She’s 4 in this picture & was modeling a friend’s fish charm bracelet. It’s not a great pic – but since I’ve moved here 2 yrs – I have boxes full of pictures – this one of the few I had sitting around. She passed away in 2013 at the ripe old age of 20.
On The Nightowls – Ryan said to really thank you for all the work you’ve done on their article. I really want to thank you in general for all your help & guidance. As a newbie I find the world of Wikipedia overwhelming. I’m cutting my teeth on this article and gaining confidence in editing. I consider you a mentor. I’m looking at the page statistics & it had a big spike in views the last couple of days since the SXSW announcement.
I try to research things 1st but it’s so hard to navigate & even find where to look at information. For instance on the ACL picture. As you saw I tried adding it, but it wasn’t coming out, so I reversed it. Then thankfully you added it. Trying to understand, I studied the 2 pics in the article, not knowing what the “px” was – Thinking it had something to do with the pixel - I studied the 2 pictures & tried to figure out the relationship. As I usually do, I had trouble trying to even find help & then I get lost in the Wikipedia world. So I turned to you to ask more about this subject. I hope you don’t mind. My take away on this is that the px is actually the size of the display & has nothing to do with the pixels? But then my research gives me another question. On the ACL there are several “other resolutions” listed, I clicked on each one to to see the differences – does that mean you can modify the pixels? Also on your last point about watching the pics. I know about watching an article – but I couldn’t find “watch” to click on when viewing the pic.
Today I got lost in the Wikipedia world of Projects and Categories. It’s easy to do. I’d looked at Musician’s project article when you 1st started editing The Nightowls and was very impressed with what the group does. Yesterday I looked at what “Class C – Mid Level Musicians” was about – I’m very pleased and honored that you that deemed them worthy of this category.
I also looked at the Rhythm & Blues project. I reviewed their template & standards for the articles. Looking at back at your early edits, I didn’t understand at the time, but I remember you making edits to follow “standard musical artist articles”. I now understand what you were doing. I saw on that project that it was assessed on 10/22. It looks like a “bot” did it. It was given a quality of “Unassessed Class” and the importance as “Unknown Class” not sure exactly what this means. Since it was a bot, I assume no person looked at it. It was added to the 4,567 articles with this class. But at least it wasn’t flagged as anything bad.
Good morning, David R AustinTx, on Wikipedia, I imagine there is a cure for anything. ツ To keep example code from becoming real on a page, use this markup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_markup#Nowiki.. That entire page is a good one to keep bookmarked; it even has a section on images. BTW, the only reason your image did not format correctly when you added it was that you have to just copy and paste the entire code that Commons gives it. You didn't have the " _ _ _ _' on your formatting. I am going to sign here, so I know you get notified (further chat to follow)... Fylbecatuloustalk 12:45, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
1. Resolution: Yes, the pixel format for our articles is just to size for style in a particular article. As I said, your new image in The Nightowls could be reformatted to 425. The thumbnail setting allows one to click through and see the close-up version. If you don't format as a thumbnail, then images appear as my two black and while cats at the top of this talk page. They just sit there flat and do not have captions either. On Commons; I iz pretty much a newbie, but I believe the different resolutions are automatically created in the process of uploading. One can click and view each resolution. Of course, the 1,280 × 538 pixels one has the best detail and clarity. Just as an aside comment, one may sometimes use a low-resolution image of a non-free image file to illustrate an article..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bellbookandcandleposter.jpg, for example.
2. Bots and WikiProjects: (short version). A bot noticed that I had added the template for the R&B and Soul WikiProject. When it went to the article it had to assign as "Unassessed" because I deferred assigning class and importance. It appears the bot runs every day and the project seems quite active and since the article got listed on their project page perhaps someone will assign ratings soon. It is kinda proper to let those in a Project do their own assessments. I could have instructed the bot to "auto assess" the class parameter, but it does not assign importance and a human still needs to check the class rating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Types_of_bots#WikiProject_tagging_and_auto-assessment_bots (lol). If someone does not come along in a while I can do the ratings. The C class is obvious, and for the Musicians workgroup I am happy to place as mid importance because it is true, but I had rather that project assign importance by their parameters.
3. Thank you very much for your gorgeous Natasha modeling the fish necklace. A treasure !! Meow and paw pats. (My Fearless lived til she was 13. She was a rescued feral and had her challenges with social graces....) Also I appreciate very much the thanks from Ryan in the band. I am an avid fan of some singers and bands and it gives me secret pleasure to have improved or written or safeguarded their articles. These are amazing times that what we contribute gets page views and the public is actually reading what we contribute. Happy editing, Fylbecatuloustalk 13:53, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
beautiful Natasha gift with fish necklace is residing in my Wikilove and gifts with a menagerie of kittens, cats, puppies and a monkey ツ thanks...
Trouble fixing Bare URL
Fylbecatulous I'm having trouble fixing a bare URL in The Nightowls article. You've told me how to do this using the Refill tool & I've done it before. I've bookmarked your talk page with the instructions & looked at that. I'm trying to fix the one I added today - but the tool is saying "no references found" and the URL is not being fixed. I've double checked the URL I added & it seems code OK. Not sure what's going on, can you see what the problem is - I'm going to be adding a number of references. THANKS!
...I repaired the citation in two steps so you could see and so ReFill could read it. It has to be absolutely bare for the tool to read it.
...if you want to try the brackets, here is the one for cite web: {{cite web |url= |title= |author= |date= |website= |publisher= |access-date= |quote=}}. Here they all are at WP:CIT; cite news, books, whatever you might need. Always happy to help. ツ
Fylbecatulous Thanks! With you doing the double step - I Now I see what I did wrong - I shouldn't have used the brackets, just the ref codes & URL. I want to add more ref around their Good as Gold Album which had lots of press at the time & currently just says they released the album. They are going on their Dec tour through the SE next week & during that time will be recording a new EP at Al Green's studio in Memphis. & look for a major label. Which is why I want to beef up their 1st album. When the EP comes out I'm going to break up the history into sections for each album. I'm working on an article for another Austin band. Now that I have a better idea of what a standard musician article should look like, I'm going to draft it in a Word doc before adding it to Wikipedia. When I put the various music categories - I know it will pop up as a new one, so I want it to be complete as possible. Next I'm going to create one for Black Fret - a 2 yr old organization established to be a Patron of the Austin music scene - modeled on the concept of Patron groups that support museums, symphonies etc. It has 1,300 members - all movers & shakers in Austin with many ties to corps here like Dell. They're building a 2 million dollar endowment to give grants to musicians. They also promote bands with showcases & through social media. I can't afford to join - their most basic ann membership is $1,500 and they also do lots of fundraising events & members contribute a lot more $. However I can help them as a volunteer - especially building articles on Austin Bands. The Nightowls were one of the 10 grant nominees this year & they're going to award $100,000 in various size grants at their annual ball this friday. They're a really great org & something sorely needed for Austin & they really deserve an article. I'll have to look at other charities to see how they are formatted. I'll also give them some music categories. Thanks again for all your help!!! Also the note about where Natasha's pic is - I was looking for it the other day to show someone & looked at your talk page & didn't see it in my comment. You have lots of great cat pics.
Hi David, this all sounds good. When you create a new article and hit "save page" it will be live in article space immediately. See Special:NewPagesFeed ツ Take a peek but don't let it scare you. It shows how many edits you have made and any glaring issues with your article wll show up in red. So the more complete it is, the less likely it will be pounced upon for quick deletion or WP:AfD. It is still better to just publish into Wikipedia instead of trying to get it accepted though Wikipedia:Articles for creation. That process can break one's heart. They have a backlog like crazy and if you get a very critical reviewer... I patrol pages on the new pages feed and many patrollers are generous and patient and will help and just give you the green check. This is why I only create new articles on Simple Wikipedia. I have patroller rights there so my articles are automatically accepted and I also patrol new pages of other editors. Fylbecatuloustalk 13:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
BENN JORDAN
This article has been tagged for deletion and is quite dubious as the musician clearly wrote it himself, is not notable, and has 18 seperate articles for purported releases that are unsourced, not notable
or never actually released. Total Puff Piece. Please assist by locking page to amateur editors, and ensure the deletion process runs its course on the talk page
@Fylbecatulous: I'm requesting you to join this Afd discussion. Your comment is valuable to us. Please help us reach a consensus. Thanks -Khocon (talk) 19:12, 14 December 2015 (UTC)