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WZZM
edit- ... that a Michigan TV station rescued and restored a weather ball (pictured) that had been sitting for years in a scrapyard? Source: Heibel, Lawrence R. (March 28, 2002). "Weather ball may sit on pole by station: WZZM TV-13 is seeking a zoning variance to build the new home for the stainless steel sphere". The Grand Rapids Press. p. A25. (Available upon request)
- ALT1: ... that the owner of a Michigan TV station ordered its news director out of bed to give him personal election reports? Source: https://search.proquest.com/docview/216739809
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sud 777
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article nominated two days after promotion to GA. Passes Copyvio check. Picture is free use. QPQ done. AGF on ALT0 offline source. I prefer ALT0, it's more interesting. Riley1012 (talk) 21:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Aid climbing
edit... that in 1993, Lynn Hill became the first person to free climb The Nose (pictured), one of the most famous aid climbing routes on El Capitan?
- Source: Outside Magazine, PlanetMountain, Gripped Magazine
- Reviewed:
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving nomination. Article is long enough and promoted to GA 1 day before DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and copyvio-free (excluding quoted section). Hook is interesting and well-sourced. Image meets criteria. QPQ not needed. Good to go. Thank you for you nomination Aszx5000! Kimikel (talk) 02:35, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Poking my nose in while promoting hooks to prep - this hook seems to not really be about the bolded subject, which is aid climbing. The hook reads as though the bolded article should be Lynn Hill or maybe free climbing. Is there another hook possible that focuses more directly on aid climbing? Premeditated Chaos (talk) 22:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos:, I understand your point but I offered that hook as the whole affair was one of the biggest moments in modern rock climbing history. Some alternatives are:
- ALT1 ... that Jim Bridwell's 1975 aid climbing route, Sea of Dreams, was the first "if you fall, you die" pitch on El Capitan (pictured - same as above) ?
- ALT2 ... that the aid climbing routes on the Great Trango Tower (pictured) are some of the longest vertical big wall climbs in the world?
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Great trango tower - Source: Great Trango Tower: The Biggest Big Wall, Big-Wall Climbing: What is it, Which Wall is the Biggest, and Why is This Climbing Different?
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- Would any of those work? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 13:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I think either of those would work nicely. I leave it to the promoter to pick between them; I'll strike ALT0. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Premeditated Chaos, just to clarify, you have reviewed and approved ALT1 & 2? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I think either of those would work nicely. I leave it to the promoter to pick between them; I'll strike ALT0. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos:, I understand your point but I offered that hook as the whole affair was one of the biggest moments in modern rock climbing history. Some alternatives are:
- Poking my nose in while promoting hooks to prep - this hook seems to not really be about the bolded subject, which is aid climbing. The hook reads as though the bolded article should be Lynn Hill or maybe free climbing. Is there another hook possible that focuses more directly on aid climbing? Premeditated Chaos (talk) 22:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Goodboy Galaxy
edit- ... that Goodboy Galaxy was the first commercially released title for the Game Boy Advance in over 13 years?
- Source: Yin-Poole, Wesley (28 August 2021). ""First commercial GBA game in 13 years" smashes Kickstarter target in less than a day Goodboy, Galaxy". Euro Gamer. Retrieved 27 June 2024. / McFerran, Damien (27 August 2021). "The Game Boy Advance Is Getting Its First Commercial Release In 13 Years, Goodboy Galaxy". Nintendo Life. Retrieved 27 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liechtenstein at the 1936 Summer Olympics
- Comment: From the roster of recent AFC graduates; as promised on this article's talk page; on behalf of creator Oz346. (Stay tuned as I get another nomination of my own up and running.)
Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 09:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC).
- Note that this is under an AFD so any review may have to be deferred.
- Review needed now that AfD has closed as "Keep". BlueMoonset (talk) 00:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Since the AfD is out of the way, safe to say I can review this. It's long enough, new enough, etc, cited in article, QPQ done. All good. JuniperChill (talk) 08:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Review needed now that AfD has closed as "Keep". BlueMoonset (talk) 00:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Sam Salz (American football)
edit- ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team never played organized football?
- ALT1: ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team may never be able to play in a game because of his religious beliefs? Source: Sabbath runs from sun down on Friday to an hour past sundown on Saturday which means Sam can only compete in Saturday night games for the Aggies.
- ALT2: ... that football player Sam Salz wears the jersey number 39 and a Chabad "A&M” kippah under his football helmet? Source: donning a “Chabad A&M” kippah under his helmet while wearing the number “39” to symbolize the 39 tasks and items that are avoided during Sabbath, known in Hebrew as lamed tet melachot.
- ALT3: ... that by rule Sam Salz could not even try out for the Texas A&M Aggies football team but he is on the team? Source: the rule was that to try out for the team, it was required to play high school football on a varsity level which Salz didn’t do. So, he got creative. Getting on the team There was a field right next to the Aggies’ training facility, and Salz, an obser- vant Jew, went there every daytotrain,asidefromShab- bat. He worked on taking hand-offs, catching, and doing footwork.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cosmic Ray (film)
- Comment: There may be other hooks in there. I avoided the claim of first or only orthodox Jewish football player in NCAA Division I because of verifiability.
Bruxton (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- This is only a preliminary review for now as the article needs a copyedit when it comes to wording and missing punctuation. However, the article does seem long enough and is adequately sourced and a QPQ has been done. My preferred hook is ALT1, but it doesn't exactly match the article or the source so it might fail at WT:DYK or ERRORS. ALT0 could probably be modified to say he never played organized football before signing up as the current wording might be too vague. ALT2 might need additional context especially for readers from countries where Judaism is not a common religion: my suggestion would be to propose a new hook that explains his 39 jersey and how it related to the Sabbath. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for checking out this nomination.. I did some copyediting but it is hard for me to find my own errors so I would appreciate you calling them out. For hook ideas I prefer that someone click the article to discover rather than getting in the weeds with specificity in the hook. For fifth and sixth hook ideas:
- ALT4: ... that a wide receiver on the Texas A&M Aggies football team wears number 39 to symbolize the tasks or items which Jews should avoid during the Sabbath?
- ALT5: ... that American football player Sam Salz wears number 39 to remind him of "lamed tet melachot"?
- Bruxton (talk) 15:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 sounds good to me. The article is improved but the wording still seems a bit weird (for example, "As a young boy Salz never watched college football because it is played on the Shabbat and he is an observant orthodox Jew." and "He was not invited to join the football team so he practiced by himself within sight of the football team and eventually earned a roster spot.") I don't have access to the NYT source; is 2003 mentioned in that article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Excellent. You can archive a link to read text it by putting the url in archive.ph. Here is a link to the NYT article. I got 2003 from "Salz, 21, became obsessed with playing college football at a young age, for reasons he can’t exactly pinpoint." It is a 2024 article and 2024-21 is c. 2003. Regarding the two sentences, I do not see the weirdness to their structurel; if you do please edit them. Bruxton (talk) 23:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just me not being a native speaker but something feels off about the first sentence to me, but it could just be that it's correct to a native speaker but sounds weird to a non-native one. The second one could probably be rewritten to something like "As he was not invited to join the football team, he practiced by himself within sight of them. He eventually earned a roster spot." Maybe something like that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I reordered the first sentence you called out and I used your language for the second sentence. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I think about it, ALT4a is quite long. Would it be okay if it got shortened to ALT4a ... that a Texas A&M Aggies football wide receiver wears number 39 to symbolize the tasks or items which Jews should avoid during the Sabbath? "Football" could even be dropped if possible, but given American football's relatively niche popularity outside of North America, just "wide receiver" without context might not make much sense, hence the addition of "football" (or even "college football" if really needed). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I am ok with any change that helps advance this nomination. Bruxton (talk) 01:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Cool. I'll think about hook options over the next few days but as long as the copyediting has been completed I can probably complete the review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I am ok with any change that helps advance this nomination. Bruxton (talk) 01:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I think about it, ALT4a is quite long. Would it be okay if it got shortened to ALT4a ... that a Texas A&M Aggies football wide receiver wears number 39 to symbolize the tasks or items which Jews should avoid during the Sabbath? "Football" could even be dropped if possible, but given American football's relatively niche popularity outside of North America, just "wide receiver" without context might not make much sense, hence the addition of "football" (or even "college football" if really needed). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I reordered the first sentence you called out and I used your language for the second sentence. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just me not being a native speaker but something feels off about the first sentence to me, but it could just be that it's correct to a native speaker but sounds weird to a non-native one. The second one could probably be rewritten to something like "As he was not invited to join the football team, he practiced by himself within sight of them. He eventually earned a roster spot." Maybe something like that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:03, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Excellent. You can archive a link to read text it by putting the url in archive.ph. Here is a link to the NYT article. I got 2003 from "Salz, 21, became obsessed with playing college football at a young age, for reasons he can’t exactly pinpoint." It is a 2024 article and 2024-21 is c. 2003. Regarding the two sentences, I do not see the weirdness to their structurel; if you do please edit them. Bruxton (talk) 23:47, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 sounds good to me. The article is improved but the wording still seems a bit weird (for example, "As a young boy Salz never watched college football because it is played on the Shabbat and he is an observant orthodox Jew." and "He was not invited to join the football team so he practiced by himself within sight of the football team and eventually earned a roster spot.") I don't have access to the NYT source; is 2003 mentioned in that article? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:18, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for the delay in reviewing. The article meets requirements for newness and length, and I did not find any close paraphrasing. QPQ has been done and verified. All major statements in the article match the sources, and all hooks are mentioned in the article and verified in the sources. There is one statement in the article, however: the "thought to be the only orthodox Jewish football player in NCAA Division I" fact might change in the future, so the mention in the article may need a qualifier. I also note that one of the sources says he's the first known orthodox Jewish college football player, but given the recent brouhaha over "first" hooks it might be the safest option not to go with that. Some variation of ALT4 (I will leave the exact wording to the promoter) is probably the best option here as the most unusual or interesting; my original preference (ALT1) is unsuitable due to not being directly mentioned in the article, as well as not meeting the "unlikely to change" criterion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Good catch I attributed the statement Bruxton (talk) 04:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I think there should be no more issues here. The only approved option here is some variant of ALT4; I will leave it to the promoter on what wording to use, or whether to mention Salz by name in the hook. I do wonder if a hook that goes "that in 2023, the Atlanta Jewish Times suggested that Sam Salz is the only Orthodox Jewish player in NCAA Division I college football?" or even "that The Times of Israel suggests that Sam Salz may be college football's first known Orthodox Jewish player?", but given both are "first" or "only" hooks and thus are likely to be a whole can of worms, they're only food for thought and the nomination can proceed with ALT4 or some variant. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
The fact that he's an orthodox jew playing football is the story, so we'd be silly to shy away from mentioning that in the hook. I think we'd be OK with a "first" as long as we qualify it with "believed to be" or something to that effect. The Jewish Times says "Salz is believed to be the only Orthodox Jew to play Division I college football this season (if not, the first-ever)", which seems like an appropriate level of hedging. As for the 39-based hooks, I'm torn between the significance of 39 being lost on most of our readers vs piquing their interest ("what's so special about 39?") RoySmith (talk) 13:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Elsewhere, Black Kite said:
- "Suggests" and "known" and "may be" are really vague though, aren't they? You would have thought that given the ridiculous amount of statistical trivia about the game, there would be a definitive source.
- I'm sure they keep all kinds of statistics about on-field performance, but I wouldn't expect they have data on the religious affiliation of every player. And even if they did, who's to say what an "Orthodox Jew" is? It's kind of a self-identify thing. RoySmith (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- The issue here is all the recent brouhahas with "first" or "only" hooks and how much scrutiny they get. If we go with that angle, we want to be sure we're right and not have to have another long discussion about how we promoted a factual error, even if objectively this was the more interesting option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure they keep all kinds of statistics about on-field performance, but I wouldn't expect they have data on the religious affiliation of every player. And even if they did, who's to say what an "Orthodox Jew" is? It's kind of a self-identify thing. RoySmith (talk) 19:17, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Diesel (donkey)
edit- ... that after disappearing in 2019, Diesel is "living his best life" with a wild elk herd?
- ALT1: ... that after disappearing in 2019, a donkey is now "living his best life" with a wild elk herd?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bad Dürrenberg burial
gobonobo + c 02:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article checks out for newness, length, and plagiarism; on the shorter side, but still long enough to be counted for DYK. Well written and well sourced. Hook is interesting and cited; I personally believe ALT1 to be the more interesting of the proposed hooks. QPQ done by editor. Overall checks out, however article is currently nominated for AfD, so until that process has been completed the review is on hold. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Passing this now that article has survived AfD. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC) Sims2aholic8 (talk)
- Not a review, but the fact that Diesel is a suspect in a lion mountain homicide strikes me as even more interesting than the proposed hooks. Bremps... 22:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Adding an alt here:
- ALT2: ... that the escaped donkey Diesel is "living his best life" with a wild elk herd?
- @Bremps: I really like the "living his best life" quote. Maybe there's a way to incorporate both. Something like...that an escaped donkey "living his best life" may have killed a mountain lion? I'm reluctant to go with a "may have killed" hook though, since others have pointed out that the article is already pretty heavy on speculation. For what it's worth, this reference indicates that donkeys killing mountain lions is rare, but not unheard of. Maybe Sims2aholic8 has an opinion now that the article has survived AfD. gobonobo + c 01:08, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- User:Gobonobo I get it, I also like to cleanse my DYK hooks of speculation. If you're willing to stomach the "possibly", that's not a bad hook. Bremps... 02:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I also really like the "living his best life" quote, so definitely keen to place that in the hook. Also completely understand the reluctance to lean on speculation here re. the mountain lion, but it is a very interesting aspect of this story. Potentially something along the lines of that an escaped donkey "living his best life" with an elk herd was reported to have killed a mountain lion? I think it's important to note why he's living his best life (i.e. with the elk herd); without that caveat I'm not sure how relevant the quote is to the hook. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 08:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- User:Gobonobo I get it, I also like to cleanse my DYK hooks of speculation. If you're willing to stomach the "possibly", that's not a bad hook. Bremps... 02:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Wong Sau Ying
edit- ... that after Wong Sau Ying (pictured) attempted to assassinate a British colonial official, the police and press began to associate the bob cut with anarchism?
- Source: Harper, Tim (2021). Underground Asia: Global Revolutionaries and the Assault on Empire. Harvard University Press. pp. 509–510. ISBN 978-0-674-72461-7.
Grnrchst (talk) 09:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting and clears Earwig, length, QPQ, and formatting, but can you provide a quotation directly in the reference to verify the claim? Orchastrattor (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: It's tricky, because this hook is summing up two full pages of information. It's not something I can easily quote. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: the bit about the bob cut would be the only thing that needs verification, is the claim paraphrased directly from the author or does the source simply give some individual examples? Orchastrattor (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: Here's a couple excerpts from the text. It goes further into this in preceding and subsequent paragraphs:
--Grnrchst (talk) 09:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)The colonial public was chilled by her [Wong Sau Ying's] exacting premeditation. The ‘bobbed-hair woman’ had arrived in Kuala Lumpur only that morning. Some reports said that she came from Canton; others that she was from Penang, and fluent in Malay. They were, above all, obsessed by the way she looked. [...]
The year 1925 was when the ‘Modern Girl’ became a global phenomenon, and in this the women of Asia took the lead. [...] There were stories of ‘bobbed-hair riots’ as far away as Mexico City, of rival ‘anti-bobbed-hair leagues’ and ‘bobbed-hair defence leagues’. [...]
The ‘Modern Girl’ was increasingly linked to a dangerous, disordered modernity; to nihilism and to anarchism. As one expatriate journal put it: ‘The now notorious “bobbed-haired” lady might just as well have turned up in Venezuela or Tibet for all the relation that her “mission” had to events in Malaya... Politics virtually do not exist in this country.’ The Straits Times brayed for a system of ‘identity tickets’ to indicate who was a loyal subject of His Majesty King George V and who was not. There were suddenly other sightings of ‘strange’ young women in Kuala Lumpur. [...]
At the root of the case was her ‘new style’.
- @Grnrchst: passes V and neutrality then, approved! Orchastrattor (talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Orchastrattor: Here's a couple excerpts from the text. It goes further into this in preceding and subsequent paragraphs:
Cobra Crack
edit- ... that when Didier Berthod failed to make the first free ascent of Cobra Crack (pictured) in 2005, he quit climbing and became a Franciscan monk, but returned in 2024 to make the 20th ascent?
- Source: Climbing Mazine, PlanetMountain
Aszx5000 (talk) 13:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 03:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Berthod's becoming a Franciscan monk is not mentioned in the article Aszx5000. Personally, I would be inclinde to remove the last nine words of the hook per WP:DYKTRIM. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29:, I have added his vocation to the article now; no problem trimming but I think the fact that he returned to ascend it is a great part of the story (and hook)? Aszx5000 (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Berthod's becoming a Franciscan monk is not mentioned in the article Aszx5000. Personally, I would be inclinde to remove the last nine words of the hook per WP:DYKTRIM. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Matahi Brightwell
edit- ... that Matahi Brightwell (pictured) introduced the waka ama (outrigger canoe racing) sport to New Zealand?
- Source: [1] "Mr Brightwell was made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for starting waka ama in Aotearoa, a sport he picked up – along with his name and his wife Raipoia – while he was building the ocean-going waka Hawaikinui in Tahiti."
- ALT1: ... that Matahi Brightwell (pictured) left the eyes of Ngātoro-i-rangi blank? Source: [2] "When Mr Brightwell created Ngatoroirangi, he was so upset by the negativity that he left the sculpture's eyes blank."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sofiya Vakman
- Comment: Welcome any suggestions for alternative hooks or improvements to the hook or article. There's also a free picture of the Ngātoro-i-rangi sculpture (currently in the article) that could be used as an alternative to the picture of Brightwell, although I'm not sure it'll show up well at 100x100.
Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- Article is long enough and created a day day before DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and free from copyvio. QPQ done. Hooks are both interesting; personally, I think ALT0 works better from a DYK perspective as it's more accessible to someone who doesn't know what Ngatoroirangi is. Image meets criteria. Thank you for your nomination Chocmilk03! Kimikel (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hercules (1973 ship)
edit- ... that on 20 July 1982, the neutral oil tanker Hercules was scuttled after being struck by an Argentine bomb during the Falklands War?
- Source: "June 8 .... that afternoon Hercules was attacked without warning in three different strikes by Argentine aircraft using bombs and air-to-surface missiles" from: Sohn, Louis B.; Noyes, John (25 October 2021). Cases and Materials on the Law of the Sea. BRILL. p. 82. ISBN 978-90-04-48042-1. and "20 July: The VLCC Hercules has her seacocks opened ... it had been decided that the unexploded bomb aboard was too dangerous to defuse and thus sinking was the only alternative" from:Ambrose, A. J. (1983). Jane's Merchant Shipping Review. Jane's Publishing Company. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-7106-0261-9.
- ALT1: ... that the neutral Liberian oil tanker Hercules was attacked three times by Argentine aircraft during the Falklands War and eventually scuttled? Source: As above
- ALT2: ... that the neutral oil tanker Hercules carried an unexploded bomb into a Brazilian port after being attacked by Argentine aircraft during the Falklands War? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/War Tank America
- Comment: ALT0 if it can be run on 20th July, others if not.
Dumelow (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC).
- Approving all hooks on good faith. Article is long enough and was created same day as DYK nom. Article is presentable, well-sourced, and free from copyvio. Hooks are interesting and sourced; the exact pages are unavailable online. QPQ done. Thank you for your nomination Dumelow! Kimikel (talk) 22:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Ashin Munindabhivamsa
edit- ... that Myanmar’s junta Min Aung Hlaing publicly apologized religious leaders for the firearm death of Shindan Sayadaw, a prominent scholar monk who was shot by the Tatmadaw soldiers in June 2024? Source: VOA Burmese, The Irrawaddy
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hypochrysops piceatus
- Comment: The subject was also nominated for ITN as RD.
Htanaungg (talk) 10:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The article appeared in the news before, and the hook does not seem interesting because these types of killings are common. Considering the reply of the nominator. I feel life ALT2 is more interesting. TheNuggeteer (talk) 00:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @TheNuggeteer: Thank you for the review. Per WP:DYKNEW, I’ve mentioned in the comment that the subject is listed only in RD section of the ITN, not bold link.
- Although this type of killing may be common elsewhere, it is a rare case in the highly religious country that a prominent religious figure was shot dead by the ruling junta’s soldiers. Plus, it is very few that the junta apologized publicly; he would never show his weakness in public.
- I’d like to nominate another ALTs:
- ALT1: ...that Myanmar’s junta Min Aung Hlaing publicly apologized for the firearm death of Shindan Sayadaw, a few days after his spokesman blamed the opposition armed groups for the case?
- ALT2: ...that the assassination of Shindan Sayadaw in June 2024 led to a confrontation between the Burmese military and the religious leaders?
- Regards, Htanaungg (talk) 03:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Software maintenance
edit- ... that maintenance of existing software is estimated to cost more than three times as much as its development? Source: various, see article
(t · c) buidhe 00:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough (promoted to GA yesteday).
- The article is long enough.
- The article is well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. Earwig at 4.8%, copyvio unlikely.
- The article is presentable.
- The hook is cited to a reliable source (I assume Ref9 in the article), the source is not linked in the DYK.
- Images are in public domain.
- QPQ done.
Looks good to me. Vacant0 (talk) 11:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest
edit- ... that Tali (pictured) was the first artist to represent Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest in thirty-one years when she participated in the 2024 contest?
- ALT1: ... that only three songs which have represented Luxembourg in the Eurovision Song Contest have been performed in the country's national language? Source: [5][6]
- ALT2: ... that although Luxembourg has won the Eurovision Song Contest five times, none of the winning artists representing the country have been native Luxembourgers? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres
Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- @Sims2aholic8: Article is long enough and listed as GA same day as DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and free from copyvio. All hooks are interesting and sourced. The problem I have with both the nomination and the article is the use of a user-generated blog as a source. This needs to be either replaced in both the article and nomination before approval.
- @Kimikel: Thanks for pointing that out! I've now replaced this reference with a new more reliable source, which should hopefully satisfy your concern. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 17:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm really not trying to be difficult so I apologize, but this also appears to be a blog (it says as much here). I'm just going to go ahead and approve ALT0 and ALT2 since they meet the criteria. Thank you for your nomination Sims2aholic8! Kimikel (talk) 20:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: Thanks for pointing that out! I've now replaced this reference with a new more reliable source, which should hopefully satisfy your concern. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 17:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Hannibal von Degenfeld
edit- ... that Hannibal von Degenfeld (pictured) played the leading role in establishing the Bavarian Army in 1682, before leading it to the Battle of Vienna a year later?
- Source: Staudinger 1904, p. 575: "der Begründer des jungen Heeres Freiherr von Degenfeld" and Wheatcroft 2009, p. 168: "...all the main players planned the decisive battle that would settle the fate of Vienna. The duke represented the Habsburg forces and the Emperor; General Hannibal von Degenfeld took the place of his master, Max Emmanuel, the Elector of Bavaria."
- ALT1: ... that in a military career spanning 25 years, Hannibal von Degenfeld (pictured) served Venice, the Dutch Republic, Denmark–Norway, and Bavaria as a commander? Source: summary of the article
- Reviewed: Eurovision Song Contest 1989
Constantine ✍ 16:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC).
- All the sources are offline or in German, but just about everything else is in order. Long enough and new enough. I myself prefer the first hook. A few minor quibbles: (1) A couple of sentences in the Venetian service subsection aren't sourced. (2) Is the Life section break really necessary? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend: which sentences are not sourced? Constantine ✍ 13:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Third sentence, first paragraph of Venetian service, first, second and third sentences, second paragraph. (If the sources at the end of each paragraph are supposed to cover their entire respective paragraphs, it's inconsistent with how the rest of the article is sourced.) Clarityfiend (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is exactly the case. I didn't follow a specific pattern of reference for each sentence, e.g. also last parts of both paragraphs in the 'Dutch and Danish service' section... Constantine ✍ 15:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Third sentence, first paragraph of Venetian service, first, second and third sentences, second paragraph. (If the sources at the end of each paragraph are supposed to cover their entire respective paragraphs, it's inconsistent with how the rest of the article is sourced.) Clarityfiend (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Clarityfiend: which sentences are not sourced? Constantine ✍ 13:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Rozelle–Darling Harbour railway line
edit- ... that the former Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line features the largest brick railway viaduct in New South Wales?
- Source: 'The 28-span Jubilee Park Viaduct is significant as the longest section of brick arch viaduct on the NSW system.' https://www.hms.heritage.nsw.gov.au/App/Item/ViewItem?itemId=5045444
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Since opening this nomination, I have moved the page from Rozelle–Darling Harbour railway line to Rozelle–Darling Harbour Goods Line. The former title reflected general – but not mandatory – convention on articles for Australian railway lines, while the latter reflects the line's common name. As such, this nomination links to what is now a redirect, while the hook itself links to what is now the article's primary title. The article remains the same; it has simply been moved on relatively minor technical grounds. Will Thorpe (talk) 07:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Will Thorpe (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC).
- @Willthorpe: Redirects are not allowed on the main page and I'm not quite sure what your comment's trying to say, could you fix the link?--Launchballer 16:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Launchballer The subject of the nomination is the main page, not the redirect. The title of the article (Rozelle-Darling Harbour railway line) reflects Wikipedia convention on the naming of rail lines in Australia, while the hook and article body (Rozelle-Darling Harbour Goods Line) reflects its common name. Happy to amend if necessary. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I’ve actually now requested the article be moved to its common name, which is what is used in the nomination. Cheers, Will Thorpe (talk) 01:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, interesting, no copyright problems, hook cited on article, all good. The light is now green. JuniperChill (talk) 21:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Windy Zhan
edit... that Windy Zhan (pictured) is a member of the Hong Kong Cantopop girl group After Class who has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- Source: "詹天文成功考入美國伯克利音樂學院 繼姚焯菲後到海外升學". am730 (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 4 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "After Class...成員...詹天文(Windy)...,她在5歲時已隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "與顧嘉煇王力宏做校友 詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄". Mingpao Weekly (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "5歲開始隨女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習聲樂"
- "聲夢小花|詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄 Windy音樂造詣高5歲學聲樂【多圖】". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Archived from the original on 18 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "Windy在5歲起跟隨專業女高音歌唱家王珊、戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- "《聲夢》詹天文獲伯克利音樂學院取錄成顧嘉煇王力宏師妹 5歲跟名師學聲樂屢獲獎". Headline Daily (in Chinese (Hong Kong)). 5 April 2024. Retrieved 26 June 2024.: "TVB歌唱節目《聲夢傳奇》首季參賽者詹天文(Windy)雖然沒有得到三甲名次,但憑出色歌藝被選中加入女子組合After Class...,5歲已跟專業女高音歌唱家王珊及戚芷君學習正統聲樂"
- Reviewed:
Will629 (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2024 (UTC).
- Hello, Will629. The nomination is timely and the article is long enough with no copyvios detected. Several entries in the Discography table, as well as the Awards and nominations table, appear unsourced, though. These would require references. I think it can use some tweaking for catchiness; how about this?--NØ 19:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have struck the first hook so ALT1 will be considered by the promotor, no further action required. Thank you for correcting the issues so quickly. Foreign-language reference accepted in good faith, this is good to go. Welcome to the English Wikipedia and best of luck here!--NØ 20:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much again!--Will629 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Will629 and MaranoFan: is this unusual or interesting enough? Out of interest, I just looked at a number of other famous singers—all had started before the age of seven. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much again!--Will629 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have struck the first hook so ALT1 will be considered by the promotor, no further action required. Thank you for correcting the issues so quickly. Foreign-language reference accepted in good faith, this is good to go. Welcome to the English Wikipedia and best of luck here!--NØ 20:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- MaranoFan, thank you very much for your prompt review. I have corrected the issues and your question suggestion is very good, thank you! May I ask what do I need to do for using your ALT1 suggestion, as I am new for DYK in English Wikipedia. Thank you!--Will629 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Windy Zhan (pictured) of the Hong Kong girl group After Class has been learning and practising vocal music since the age of five?