Template:Did you know nominations/State visits to the United States

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:58, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

State visits to the United States edit

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Kalakaua is received by Ulysses Grant during the state visit of Hawaii in 1874.

... that King Kalakaua of Hawaii was the first foreign leader to head a state visit to the United States?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/United States national kabaddi team

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 01:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC).

New enough, long enough, neutral, hook referenced. Some might object to the no. of pics, slide-shows etc, but not me. Earwig 53%, but only finds quotes and "the President of the United States". All the refs for the hook say Kalakaua had the first "state dinner", but I suppose it isn't a state visit without that. Link Hawaii in the hook? Johnbod (talk) 14:00, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I think we should omit the word "foreign" because it is redundant. See the definition of a state visit in the article. Surtsicna (talk) 14:14, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

What you say is obviously true, but none the less I think the hook reads more naturally as it is, and avoids a sort of mental booby-trap where people might think "What about the President?". You will see the media is currently full of "redundant" "foreigns" re the change of president. Johnbod (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Really? People would wonder if the US presidents visited the US? I must be overeestimating our readers' intelligence. Surtsicna (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

They might be confused for half a moment, however intelligent. A lot of editors do overestimate the intelligence, or age, of many of our readers. Johnbod (talk) 04:42, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

On reflection, the caption would be better re-arranged to: "Kalakaua of Hawaii is received by Ulysses Grant during his 1874 state visit". Johnbod (talk) 18:08, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

The hook uses the word "state" three times which seems excessive. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:48, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Only twice, no? Johnbod (talk) 13:07, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing, Cwmhiraeth. I've fixed it by replacing "head of state" with "leader". LavaBaron (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2016 (UTC)