- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 13:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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River Poddle
- ... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift of Gulliver's Travels and his friend Stella - and a pool on the same river gave Dublin its name? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)- ALT1:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift
, author of Gulliver's Travels and A Modest Proposal,and his friend Stella, within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
- ALT1:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift
** ALT2:... that Dubh Linn, a peaty pool on the River Poddle where it joins the Liffey, gave Dublin its name, and the same river was also the city's main source of water for over half a millennium? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- ALT3:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for Dublin homes and industrial users for over 500 years, and had its own tax to manage flooding risk from the time of Charles II? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- ALT4:... that the River Poddle's role in the growth of Dublin is referenced multiple times in James Joyce's Finnegans Wake, and that the name of the city comes from a pool on that river? Source: Joycean aspects - D'Arcy, Anne MArie (2013). "Vartryville: Dublin's Water Supply and Joyce's Sublation of Local Givernment". The Joyce Studies Annual. 2013: 252–294, Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)
- ALT5:... that the River Poddle, main water source of the city of Dublin for over 500 years, was later so polluted by industry that it allegedly killed cattle and horses drinking from it? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc., Pollution - McEntee, Don; Corcoran, Michael (2016). "5 (The Poddle)". The Rivers Dodder & Poddle (Dublin City History Engineering, 3) (1st ed.). Dublin, Ireland: Four Courts Press. pp. 51–63.
- ALT6:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of satirist Jonathan Swift and his partner Stella Johnson within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
- ALT7:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for half a millennium for Dublin, the city being named from a "dark pool" on the river? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
- Comment: Expanded in recent days, 5x per DYK Check (and that's without 1036 additional characters not counted by DYK check per known issue with bulleted lines).
Sorry for so many hooks, but there are many angles to the Poddle. 7th nomination, QPQ applicable and performed a couple of weeks back - Template:Did you know nominations/Konrad Rupf
5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC).
This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are largely cited inline (but not ALT6), the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. You have had exactly five DYKs and now need to do a QPQ. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks Cwmhiraeth. I will add referencing to ALT6, which is a cut-down version of ALT1, based on Reviewer feedback. This is my 7th nomination (1 in 2019, 3 in 2020, 3 in 2021), I think, and I have done 4 reviews to date,
so I was offering Template:Did you know nominations/Konrad Rupf for this case, but- I am happy to do another too. My record is at User:SeoR#DYK and GA work. SeoR (talk) 12:47, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Cwmhiraeth, new QPQ review added, Kolja Lessing, will take away the previous one. I hope this helps. SeoR (talk) 17:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks Cwmhiraeth. I will add referencing to ALT6, which is a cut-down version of ALT1, based on Reviewer feedback. This is my 7th nomination (1 in 2019, 3 in 2020, 3 in 2021), I think, and I have done 4 reviews to date,
Thank you. This nomination is good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
SeoR, I went to promote this, but see that there are a number of "citation needed" tags. These will need to be sorted before it can run. MeegsC (talk) 14:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Replacing tick. All hooks approved apart from ALT6. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
SeoR "and the powers were later in turn transferred to Dublin Corporation." in the The Poddell (Poddle) Commission section appears to be unreferenced. It might be in reference 29, but that reference is a broken link. SL93 (talk) 02:07, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks SL93, strange how quickly a link can go dead - I have now replaced it with a reference to the law itself, which I finally located in volume form, and added a second reference to cover both that point and the onward transfer of powers to Dublin Corporation. SeoR (talk) 12:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)