- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 03:49, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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Keshawn Banks
- ... that Keshawn Banks' only NFL appearance came in the playoffs? Source: PFR
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Keshawn Banks; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs), this will be ready once the "Reviewed" section is filled in. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Cunard: Apologies for the delay; completed a QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
Verified. Thank you! Cunard (talk) 09:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Not very interesting to a non-American who doesn't know what playoffs are, BeanieFan11. Are any other hooks possible? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Busy now. Requesting @Gonzo fan2007:, who came up with the hook, to take over. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, 90% of DYK hooks are not interesting to me initially because I don't know what they are about... until I click on them. "Playoffs" is linked and is a well-known English word that means, even in British English (see for example English Football League play-offs). It is quite unique and interesting that a player's only game was a playoff game. Over 100 million people will watch the Super Bowl this coming weekend. It is interesting to broad audience. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Are you really saying that you don't know what 90% of Wikipedia:Recent additions is about?
- As I understand it Gonzo_fan2007, the American "playoff" concept is substantially different from the rest of the world's, as it refers to determining the winners (?) of a division. Personally, I think that not being able to understand the words of the hook is much worse than simply not understanding the intracacies of the context...but I may be wrong. So I won't be promoting this hook, and another promoter can decide. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:50, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, not what I said. I said that I don't know what makes most hooks interesting until I engage with the article. The first DYK hook today is
...that Phomen Singh (pictured), an early Indian migrant to New Zealand, sold sweets and chutneys out of a suitcase?"
Why is this interesting in the least bit? Millions of people have sold trinkets out of their suitcase. I could argue that outside of New Zealand/India, this hook isn't interesting at all. But then, I clicked on the article and realized he was one of the first immigrants to New Zealand and started a successful business. The hook is meant to draw you in. Playoffs is linked in the hook and the article is clearly interesting to a broad audience. Playoffs isn't any different, its a single elimination game played at the end of the season or competition. That's the Cambridge Dictionary definition of the word. And the football (soccer) article I linked above is almost the exact type of playoff system. Semi-finals lead to a final and a champion. It would be like a 2nd tier soccer player not playing his whole first year and then making his only appearance in the most important game of the year for the team. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, not what I said. I said that I don't know what makes most hooks interesting until I engage with the article. The first DYK hook today is
- AirshipJungleman29, 90% of DYK hooks are not interesting to me initially because I don't know what they are about... until I click on them. "Playoffs" is linked and is a well-known English word that means, even in British English (see for example English Football League play-offs). It is quite unique and interesting that a player's only game was a playoff game. Over 100 million people will watch the Super Bowl this coming weekend. It is interesting to broad audience. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Busy now. Requesting @Gonzo fan2007:, who came up with the hook, to take over. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Cunard: Apologies for the delay; completed a QPQ. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs), this will be ready once the "Reviewed" section is filled in. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Keshawn Banks' only NFL appearance during his rookie year came in a single-elimination game? - if there really is concern that "playoffs" if too "US-centric", I guess this could work. Also povide clarification he is a rookie, maybe to provide more interest. I don't agree with that concern, but trying to find some compromise. As any fan of sport can attest, it is trul interesting that a rookie's first and only game came in the most important game of the year. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)