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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

James G. Blaine Society edit

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Blaine Society promotion for Oregon

Created/expanded by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

  • In none of the three inline citations does it actually say he became a hero. I would suggest amending the hook to "Governor Tom McCall gave the James G. Blaine Society a boost when he..." WilliamH (talk) 22:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
  • "Hero" was my word choice, not a direct quote. Have amended hook as you suggest.--Orygun (talk) 01:20, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I've checked everything on this, and all is fine. But because the hook you have doesn't mention the postcard image, I'd like to propose a slightly different hook and image: Maile66 (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Alt 1 ... that Governor Tom McCall gave the James G. Blaine Society a boost, and inspired "ungreeting cards", (facsimile pictured) when he invited tourists to visit Oregon, "but for heaven's sake don't stay"?

facsimile of Blaine Society Ungreeting card

  • If image isn't used in DYK, then I'd recommend using the original hook. The ungreeting cards were different format from the ungreetings road sign message above, but I think either image would go with following hook text if image is used in DYK.--Orygun (talk) 04:40, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Alt 2 ... that in 1971, Governor Tom McCall gave the James G. Blaine Society and its "ungreeting" message (facsimile pictured) a boost when he invited tourists to come visit Oregon, but then added "but for heaven's sake don't stay"?
I like your Alt 2 hook. BTW, you have to note "pictured" in parentheses when an image is with a hook. The article itself doesn't mention road signs or ungreeting messages. It specifically says cards. So does the reference cited. Can you fix that, and make sure it's referenced? And the road sign shows up better reduced than the postcard, if this ends up being the lead hook. Maile66 (talk) 11:25, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
  • The Alt 2 hook, at 222 characters, is over the maximum for DYK. I'd suggest avoid having two uses of "but" in very close succession in the final version of whatever hook is ultimately proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  • For clarification purposes - Alt 2 was written by Orygun, and I'm waiting on them to respond. And thanks for catching the length, BlueMoonset Maile66 (talk) 00:55, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Orygun, I struck out words in Alt 2 that took it over the 200 limit. We really don't need those extra words, and it brings it down to an acceptable length to strike them out. But we still need a referenced mention in the article about ungreeting messages. Maile66 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Looks good in terms of length. When it's finally approved, though, please make sure there aren't any struck out sections remaining (remove them from Alt 2 if that's the one you want to use) so it's easier for the promoter to read and to copy the final hook into the prep area. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:35, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I didn’t include image of real Oregon ungreeting card in article because of copyright issues. For the article, I created two new images. For one I added a typical JGBS message to a Public Domain postcard from 1915; and for the other, I designed a JGBS message into a traffic sign format. Both highlight the JGBS messages, but neither is an original JGBS image. Given the fact that the images are generating issues for the DYK submission, I recommend dropping the image from DYK and just going with the original hook (modified to change "hero" to "boost" as WilliamH recommended in first note above). Hopefully, that will simplify DYK approval.--Orygun (talk) 05:02, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Good to go, with original hook, and no image, per request of author. The following has been checked in this review:
  • QPQ done June 16, 2012
  • Created on June 17, 2012, with 5, 408 readable prose.
  • Original hook is short enough at 107 characters, and referenced
  • Well written article about a humorous situation, with NPOV
  • Duplication Detector run, no copyvio found
  • Every paragraph sourced
Maile66 (talk) 11:24, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
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