Template:Did you know nominations/Impact of Yuna Kim

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 00:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Impact of Yuna Kim

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South Korean figure skater Yuna Kim, 2014

• ... that South Korean figure skater Yuna Kim, who has had an impact on figure skating, was called "Queen Yuna" by the press and her fans? Source: Limb, Jae-un (January 31, 2005). "Grace and Beauty, at a Price". Korea JoongAng Daily. Hersh, Philip (February 25, 2020). "Ten Years Later, Queen Yuna's Iconic Crown Glitters with Transcendent Brilliance". NBC Sports.
  • ALT1: ... that South Korean figure skater Yuna Kim, who has had an impact on figure skating, had "no rival in terms of artistry" and that music was as important a part of her skating as her elements were? Source: Bae, Young-eun (March 26, 2009)."Figure skating queen' Yuna Kim's three 'secret weapons". The Dong-a Ilbo
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George C. Brownell

Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 18:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Impact of Yuna Kim; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• The target article (Impact of Yuna Kim) is not linked in either of the hooks. If this is a hook about that article, it should be linked and bolded in the proposed hook(s). Aoba47 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Aoba47, that was a silly mistake. I've corrected both hooks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, and it happens to the best of us. Aoba47 (talk) 16:32, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

• Passerby comment: the hook article still isn't bolded in the above two hooks, but more generally, I would suggest that those extra wikilinks are distracting from the DYK'd article even if it was bolded. Maybe it's better to just remove the other wikilinks? I would definitely assume many casual readers would click on "Yuna Kim" instead expecting that to be the DYK article. Suggested:
  • ALT0b: ... that Yuna Kim had a major impact on figure skating, and was called "Queen Yuna" by the press and her fans?
  • ALT1b: ... that Yuna Kim had a major impact on figure skating, and had "no rival in terms of artistry"?
• I've also shortened these somewhat - I'm of the "short and punchy" school of thought, especially since casual readers may not know what "elements" mean in a figure skating context. SnowFire (talk) 21:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
  • Also, if we're being pedantic, I'm not a huge fan of ALT1 / ALT1b - I presume she did have rivals in the sense that she wasn't just skating alone, but rather in competitions. And her competition probably disagrees! If kept, it'd probably be best as an attributed opinion, like "one journalist wrote that her artistry had no rival." But of course, phrasing it like that shows that this claim isn't really THAT impressive. SnowFire (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance with the bolding, too. I like the first hook, but with this feedback, I'd like to withdraw ALT1b and replace it with this:

• • • ALT 2: ... that Yuna Kim had a major impact on figure skating and was instrumental in bringing the Olympics to Pyeongchang in 2018? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 05:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
      • ALT 2: ... that Yuna Kim had a major impact on figure skating and was instrumental in bringing the Olympics to Pyeongchang in 2018?

@Figureskatingfan: Apologies if this is not the right way to do this, but I like this ALT better. I'd suggest framing it as

Yuna Kim had a major impact on KOREAN figure skating and was instrumental in bringing the Olympics to Pyeongchang in 2018?

Because then it'd make her impact unique to this sport (as opposed to all the other skaters who have had major impact on figure skating - Korean figure skating is as big as it is now BECAUSE of Yuna, as has been mentioned in this article repeatedly). Editor120918756 (talk) 07:56, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

@Editor120918756:, I disagree with your change to ALT2 because as you well know, Kim's influence went far beyond figure skating in Korea. We could say "...a major impact on the sport of figure skating", but that might be too long and redundant. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:17, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I prefer ALT2 without that modification, Yuna Kim was significantly influential in more than just Korea. toobigtokale (talk) 14:44, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

toobigtokale, I'm also good with ALT2. It's been a while since any movement on this; would you mind approving, please. Thanks and best, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

ALT2 without modification. Restating it for clarity: ALT 2: ... that Yuna Kim had a major impact on figure skating and was instrumental in bringing the Olympics to Pyeongchang in 2018? toobigtokale (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)