- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:05, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Ignacio Garriga
Garriga in July 2019
... that Ignacio Garriga (pictured) is the only politician of African descent in the Spanish far-right political party Vox? [1]- ALT1:... that Ignacio Garriga (pictured) is the first politician of African descent in the recently formed Spanish populist party Vox? [2]
- Reviewed: Janice Kavander
- Comment: I'm not sure if this article satisfies the length requirements, excluding the citations and the infobox it is only 1,608 characters long (I mesured it on Microsoft Word)
Created by Inter&anthro (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC).
- This is just a drive-by comment, but the DYKcheck tool says the article currently has 1821 characters of prose so I guess that should be fine. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:41, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
New and long, properly written (but for one issue I'll highlight further on), properly written, no plagiarism. Hook is well formatted BUT:
- 1) I worry about the description of Vox as a far-right party, which seems about as neutral as calling the US Democratic Party far-left. Our article on the party goes with "right-wing populist", while noting that this is interpreted as a far-right position by this and that author; in any case, the debate could be averted simply by calling Vox "right-wing populist" (which would include far-right populist labels, if they apply) in the hook and the article. Note that the nominated article on Garriga quotes his own belief that Vox is not at all far-right.
- 2) I worry about the hook being centered on a factoid that (per the article) Garriga himself describes as annoying. This is after all a BLP.
Also: QPQ not yet done, though nominator appears to have had several earlier nominations.Dahn (talk) 06:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)- @Dahn: sorry about the politically charged hook, I've re-worded it now so that it follow's DYK and Wikipedia's neutrality and BLP standards better. Probably says more about my own personal political bias than anything else. Since Template:Did you know nominations/Chance Rencountre I don't think I've every used the Oscar Parkes review, hopefully it is an adequate replacement for unfinished DYK nomination of Janice Kavander. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
@Inter&anthro: Please allow me to apologize: there was a QPQ done, but for some reason I hadn't noticed it. I struck out my comment, and you can of course use the Parkes review with another nom, as nothing invalidates its use. The ALT is better than the original version, I suppose ("first" rather than "only" arguably moves away from the cliche that Garriga detests); "populist" over "far-right" is indeed the better descriptor. Dahn (talk) 06:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Inter&anthro:@Dahn: the QPQ consisted of offering an alt hook. A full review of a nomination is necessary to satisfy the QPQ requirement. Yoninah (talk) 14:35, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: I though I had reviewed the whole article in the Janice Kavader DYK, but no worries, in case that that is not enough you can use this one from a while back or I can review another DYK nomination. Inter&anthro (talk) 17:32, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
@Inter&anthro: Hmmm. Yes, you are right, it is a full review. I don't know what I was seeing. Sorry about that. Restoring tick for foreign-language source per Dahn's review. Yoninah (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Dahn: sorry about the politically charged hook, I've re-worded it now so that it follow's DYK and Wikipedia's neutrality and BLP standards better. Probably says more about my own personal political bias than anything else. Since Template:Did you know nominations/Chance Rencountre I don't think I've every used the Oscar Parkes review, hopefully it is an adequate replacement for unfinished DYK nomination of Janice Kavander. Inter&anthro (talk) 14:19, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Gonzalez, David (15 December 2018). "Así es Ignacio Garriga Vaz de Concicao, el polémico "Negro de Vox"" (in Spanish). El Cierre Digital. Retrieved 13 September 2019.
- ^ Gonzalez, David (15 December 2018). "Así es Ignacio Garriga Vaz de Concicao, el polémico "Negro de Vox"" (in Spanish). El Cierre Digital. Retrieved 13 September 2019.