Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Baguio (1945)

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Baguio (1945)

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~~... that elements of the 129th Infantry were the first to enter Baguio during its liberation in 1945?~~

ALT1:... that General Yamashita, who had evacuated his headquarters from Baguio, due to Allied advancement to capture it, returned to Baguio later in 1945 in order to surrender?
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rover (yacht), see diff
Comment: Namespace started out as a redirect in 2012, and content was added to replace the redirect that was entirely uncited. Content was then replaced with cited to reliable source content.

Created/expanded by RightCowLeftCoast (talk), ~~Randelearcilla (talk),~~ Nick-D (talk), and RioHondo (talk). Nominated by RightCowLeftCoast (talk) at 12:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC).

I'd note that the creator of this article, Randelearcilla (talk · contribs), is almost certainly the latest incarnation of a long running vandal who's been badly affecting articles on the military history of the Philippines for years, so I'd suggest that they not receive any credit for this nomination per WP:DENY, especially as RightCowLeftCoast appears to have entirely reworked the article. Nick-D (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I have struck the individual from the list. I agree all of the content created by Randelearcilla was subject to WP:BURDEN, but it did instigate this improvement, if that means anything.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:52, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

"to surrender in it" -- surrender in WHAT? EEng (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Surrender in the city; he left the city, only to return and surrender in it.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 04:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Hook reads like it's the headquarters, not the city. Better fix it. EEng (talk) 17:45, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Better?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:43, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

I modified it a bit more (was feeling lazy before, sorry). But there's a problem: the article doesn't say he returned specifically to surrender, just that he surrendered there. EEng (talk) 20:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

So then does the edit that the above editor made to the hook solve their concern? Seriously, General Yamashita was taken to Bataan to surrender at the American Residence in Baguio, specifically to surrender. If that needs to be made more clear, the step by step, process of Yamashita making radio contact with the Americans, meeting with a party of the 32nd Infantry Division, then flown to Baguio for the formal surrender ceremony, that is outside of the scope of this article but more inside the scope of Yamashita's article to get so overly detailed. The aftermath of Yamashita returning to Baguio to surrender is within the scope, IMHO.

Does it seriously need to be stated that The American Residence, is in Baguio? There is a wikilink right there that will indicate to the reader that it is. I am not making this up.

If this is all that is holding this DYK up, then this is such a small detail.

As Administrator Nick-D stated this article is nearly a complete rewrite from the 19 September version of this article, and well cited.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 22:04, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

How about this as ALT2: ...that the Battle of Baguio involved the U.S. 33rd & 37th Infantry Divisions, and the guerrilla organization USAFIP–NL?

--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:53, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Full review needed. (I see no evidence that a review based on all the DYK criteria has ever been done, just hook quibbles. Now that those seem to be settled, it's time for an actual review.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:18, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

This article is new enough and long enough. The hook ALT2 is well cited and I have struck the others. I detected no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

As Alt 2 is being used, perhaps an SSI of either

33rd ID, or

37th ID can be used.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:05, 5 November 2014 (UTC)