Talk:Yolmo language
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Lauren Gawne; et al. (25 April 2019). "A grammatical overview of Yolmo (Tibeto-Burman)" (PDF). WikiJournal of Humanities. 2 (1): 2. doi:10.15347/WJH/2019.002. ISSN 2639-5347. Wikidata Q71424678.{{cite journal}} : CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)![]() |
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Disambiguation of Tibetan language
edit@Uanfala: Thank you for bringing my edit into question. Can you help me with the disambiguation? It's in the sentence "The name 'Yolmo' is derived from the Tibetan language and is defined as a 'place screened by snow mountain or glaciers'." Linguistic details are way outside my knowledge, but I've been gleaning what I could from the article, various links, and some of the sources.
In the introduction, the article says, "It has a high level of lexical similarity to...Standard Tibetan (66% lexical similarity)." Since the origin of the Yolmo People was only 200–300 years ago, and since the level of similarity with Standard Tibetan is so high, it seems that the most likely candidate for disambiguation is Standard Tibetan. Would you agree? — Gorthian (talk) 20:30, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for bringing this up here. Your suggestion is sensible, but it implies it is the standard, Lhasa-based variety of the language that is the source of the word, rather than, say, any of the varieties spoken closer to where the Yolmo live. And this is an assumption I'd be very cautious to make without a source explicitly stating it. Uanfala (talk) 21:01, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
- Do you know any possible sources for where their name came from? Unfortunately, there's no citation for the statement in the article. Some of the article's sources go into great detail about the "family tree" of the language (like what's in the infobox), but I can't tell if that's any help: would those languages be the likely origin of the name? I'm keeping in mind that whatever link is decided on for Tibetan language in this case, it's going to be only an approximate guide for readers (the choices of available articles are limited); but it's important to choose the right direction to steer them in. — Gorthian (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- I think a dab page listing several closely related varieties is the best direction we can steer readers for now. As for sources, Loztron might possibly have an idea. Uanfala (talk) 08:09, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Dab pages are not supposed to be linked to from articles, per WP:INTDAB:
With few exceptions, creating links to disambiguation pages is erroneous. Links should instead point to a relevant article.
That's why I came across this in the first place. A compromise of some sort may be necessary eventually, but now you've given me hope that Loztron can help. — Gorthian (talk) 15:38, 27 July 2016 (UTC)- I'd be inclined to say simply that this name is the local endonym and cite Clarke 1980. This is in contrast to 'Helambu Sherpa' which is the Nepali language exonym for which you can cite Desjarlais 1992. That way you avoid any reference to 'Tibetan language' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loztron (talk • contribs) 12:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- Dab pages are not supposed to be linked to from articles, per WP:INTDAB:
- I think a dab page listing several closely related varieties is the best direction we can steer readers for now. As for sources, Loztron might possibly have an idea. Uanfala (talk) 08:09, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Do you know any possible sources for where their name came from? Unfortunately, there's no citation for the statement in the article. Some of the article's sources go into great detail about the "family tree" of the language (like what's in the infobox), but I can't tell if that's any help: would those languages be the likely origin of the name? I'm keeping in mind that whatever link is decided on for Tibetan language in this case, it's going to be only an approximate guide for readers (the choices of available articles are limited); but it's important to choose the right direction to steer them in. — Gorthian (talk) 00:35, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Drafting WikiJournal of the Humanities paper
editOver the coming month I'll be improving this page and then submitting it to WikiJournal of the Humanities as a review paper. If you stop by and would like to join in, you're more than welcome! Loztron (talk) 01:45, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
I've been working on this for a while and have reassigned it as a B class article. It's now under submission with WikiJournal Humanities Loztron (talk) 04:15, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
This is now an article on WikiJHum, and I've updated the text on this page [1] 08:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Text in first person
editI don't do much editing on Wikipedia but my impression is that most text isn't written in the first person. The "Language Contact" section here is though, which felt a bit weird. It was added by @Loztron: at 08:23 on 16 May 2019. I guess the 'I' in the section might be Loztron but then again that isn't super clear and I guess the section should be rewritten somewhat to remove the 'I'?. Dgse87 (talk) 11:34, 4 December 2019 (UTC)