Talk:Yaroslav the Wise

Change "Kiev" to "Kyiv"

Please see the discussion of this on Grand Prince of Kiev. Generally, Kiev should be left as is. --Nasageek16 (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Grave

The grammar is atrocious, I'm sure I'm not the only one who found it impossible to comprehend.

Concur. It now reads: "As been known except own dust of prince in 1939 there were displayed the remains of unknown woman without head and the man’s skull, which possibly belonged to the famous ruler’s son. This time in the tomb, that had been uncovered at court, medical experts and anthropologists presence, there was nothing but a chest with prince ashes. Skeletons that mentioned in a record of 1939 disappeared.[6]" It was not written by a native speaker of English, and I don't know what they're trying to say. 71.171.89.90 (talk) 14:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I think it means something along the line of; 'In 1939, aside from the ashes of the Prince, were the remains of an unknown headless woman and a man's skull, possibly that of the famous ruler's son. When the tomb was reopened in court, in the presence of medical experts and anthropologists, all that remained was a chest with the Prince's ashes; the skeletons measured in a record from 1939 had disappeared. Dpchalmers (talk) 01:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Tomb image

I have readded this image as it is quite obvious that the tomb of the subject of the article is relevant, if anything the other images are less relevant. Arniep 15:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Crests

Please check Talk:Vladimir_I_of_Kiev#.22Trydent.22_of_Vladimir_.28Volodymer.29_and_Co, it appeares the crets are original research abakharev 10:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Missing from the Main Article

Please add the following; "Jaroslavl (Iaroslavl / Yaroslavl) I, the Wise", was also known as "The King of Austrveg" = King of the Eastway.

Beard of Yaroslav

It's strongly recommended to read some Kievan Rus sources and to find that wearing a beard was a normal practice in that period. No matter what Ukranian nationalists and other people who are not friendly with history think about it.--91.76.142.167 22:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

In that period princes of Kievan Rus hadn`t a beard. It is historical true. I can show their signets from 11th - 12th sentures. It isn`t Ukrainian nationalism, it is true. Then, in 13th centure, the beard really become a normal practic (together with moustache without beard), Galicians had beards too. In reality, the tradition of moustache witout beard and a long herring is from Kyiv, perhaps from Vikings or Goths because Slavs had a beard.

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Varangians

My encyclopaedia says that the mercenary Varangians had the decisive role in the victory over Svatopelk--Revery (talk) 16:28, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably yes. Olof the swedes sent 15000-20000 men to Yaroslavs aid.

Request Move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Yaroslav the Wise. Favonian (talk) 21:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

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Yaroslav I the Wise → Yaroslav the Wise — More common name. Weird to have both nickname and regnal number.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 21:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Support. per nom. —dsergienko (talk) 21:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
• I almost moved this, but we have a dab at Yaroslav the Wise. Agreed that we should either have the formal name or the nickname, not both, but I'm not sure which. Whichever name we choose should be in the lead; I tried to improve it, but am not sure I got it right. — kwami (talk) 00:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• Support. Yaroslav the Wise appears to be the common name (going by a gbooks search) and this article also appears to be the primary topic. Jenks24 (talk) 02:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• Comment. It's not weird at all to have both a nickname and a regnal number. In fact it's common practice when referring to monarchs with a nickname. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment Few if any people ever use the nickname and regnal number at the same time. Nobody says "Yaroslav the First the Wise" and no one says William the First the Conqueror.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 20:45, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose as per previous entry - not weird at all and covers name fully. SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:32, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• Support. per nom. GreyHood ^Talk 19:26, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• Support but the present form complies with the standard WP system of nomenclature. It should therefore be retained as a redirect. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

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epithet

Well, what made Yaroslav "wise"? There's no explanation here how he got his epithet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.92.237 (talk) 03:50, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Grand Prince of Kiev and Novgorod?

Maybe, Grand Prince of Kyiv (Kiev) and Prince of Novgorod! View: "Велий кънязь КыЂвьскии" and "Князь Новогородьскии". Князівна (користувач) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Князівна (talk • contribs) 14:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Lead is ridiculous

Article leads are supposed to have one (1) extra pronunciation... rarely you will see two. This article has FIVE and it really clutters the lead. With this many they should all go in prose in a "names" section. Goodness the second sentence even adds two more. A total mess of names. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:06, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2022

Kyiv not Kiev Bohdan Martynets (talk) 10:08, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done Not in historical articles. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Chatbots

It seems most of the lead was written by an editor now indeffed for using AI chatbots to add to the leads of a bunch of articles including this one. I did notice something looked off about the text they added (also without any wikilinks). Mellk (talk) 01:23, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Therefore, you want to remove the whole paragraph and create a new one? Raulois (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

No, this is not necessary. It needs to be checked for mistakes and that it correctly summarizes the information. Mellk (talk) 04:38, 29 July 2023 (UTC)