Talk:Xander Mobus
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Maplestrip in topic Trimming the article
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Trimming the article edit
As I cannot bring myself to refer to anyone by just their last name without any honorifics, I request fellow editors to trim the article to conform to Wikipedia's encyclopedic nature (I have already done so, but my edit was reverted because I referred to the subject by his first name). Specifically, I am requesting editors to eliminate any grammatical errors or take out repetitive sentences.--Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Nearly all articles on Wikipedia, with very few exceptions, refer to people by their last name (like, just check articles like George Harrison or Rowan Atkinson). The lead section is supposed to sum up the rest of the article. Because the rest of the article is still rather short, it indeed looks like it's just repeating itself, but that can't be fixed by trimming the lead section. Lastly, I'm not sure what grammatical errors there are, though feel free to fix them. ~Mable (chat) 10:29, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- "See talk page - this is how lead sections work." No. Redundancy is bad. If you want to talk about Xander's career, then do it in his career section, and not on the lead paragraph. By reverting my edit, you're saying that redundancy is ok. Just because the article is short at the moment, that's no excuse for repetitiveness. I'm not gonna have an edit war with you, but I hope you reflect upon what you're doing. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thing is, what you're saying is that pretty much all lead sections should be only one line. The purpose of a lead section is sum up information in the rest of the article. Take, for instance, today's featured article: Fantastic Adventures. Skipping the first line, every following line in the lead section already appears in the article in some form. Does that mean that it can all just be removed because it is repetitive information? Similarly, the information that Mobus is to voice the main character of Persona 5 is already in the career section, but because of how widely it is reported, I decided it is important enough information to repeat in the lead section, as a significant role (more so than his voice work for Dust or Disgaea). If you want to get more input, though, you could ask somewhere like the Video Game WikiProject. I'm only human, so I can make mistakes, but I personally feel like this is a pretty clear-cut situation. It just looks a bit repetitive because the article still needs more expanding. ~Mable (chat) 11:17, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Or we could take out the career section and jam everything into the lead paragraph. The article is too short at the moment to even warrant a separate section as of this moment. I hate redundancy and repetitiveness, and I believe that there's no exception nor excuses to justify that. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 11:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thing is, what you're saying is that pretty much all lead sections should be only one line. The purpose of a lead section is sum up information in the rest of the article. Take, for instance, today's featured article: Fantastic Adventures. Skipping the first line, every following line in the lead section already appears in the article in some form. Does that mean that it can all just be removed because it is repetitive information? Similarly, the information that Mobus is to voice the main character of Persona 5 is already in the career section, but because of how widely it is reported, I decided it is important enough information to repeat in the lead section, as a significant role (more so than his voice work for Dust or Disgaea). If you want to get more input, though, you could ask somewhere like the Video Game WikiProject. I'm only human, so I can make mistakes, but I personally feel like this is a pretty clear-cut situation. It just looks a bit repetitive because the article still needs more expanding. ~Mable (chat) 11:17, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- "See talk page - this is how lead sections work." No. Redundancy is bad. If you want to talk about Xander's career, then do it in his career section, and not on the lead paragraph. By reverting my edit, you're saying that redundancy is ok. Just because the article is short at the moment, that's no excuse for repetitiveness. I'm not gonna have an edit war with you, but I hope you reflect upon what you're doing. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- While it's short at the moment, it is useful to use a structure with sections from the start, so that you don't have to rearrange the entire article once it gets longer. Writing a lead for a very short article is indeed hard to do - you can't really sum things up without repeating everything - but again, if one tries one's best to follow the structure the article will have when it's longer, one doesn't have to redo everything later on.--IDVtalk 13:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- The lede is designed to summarize the contents. When there isn't much content, it's fine to forego sections and just have a few paragraphs. Sections are more useful when there's content to separate. In any event, fixed. On another note, does anyone have more detailed coverage for this voice actor? If not, the content goes up for merge/deletion. czar 17:22, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- A lot of news websites reported on Mobus being the new announcer of Smash Bros. and the protagonist of Persona 5 more detailed is hard to find. I know he's done plenty of interviews, but I sadly wasn't able to find any done with traditional reliable sources. For what it's worth, I agree with IDV on structure being important. Nobody wants to spin out a lead section into multiple sections. ~Mable (chat) 10:07, 11 December 2016 (UTC)