Talk:William Peverel

Adelina or Avice?

This William (the Elder) was reputed to indeed have married Adelina, but was she the daughter of Roger of Poitou, Earl of Lancaster? William's son, William the Younger, married Avice de Lancaster who is reputed to be the daughter of Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Lancaster, aka Roger of Poitou. Surely, they can't both be his daughter?! Iandelg 15:39, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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The following question is copied over from Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities, with some editing of the links:

At William Peverel, the author suggests that William Peverel married Adelina, daughter of Roger of Poitou.

However, Adelina is not listed as one of Roger's children at Roger of Poitou.

Furthermore, sites such as rootsweb.com and [familysearch.org suggest that Adelina is not the child of Roger of Poitou.

Rather, these sites show no parents for Adelina, wife of William Peverel (father); they propose that it was his son, also named William Peverel, who married Avice, daughter of Roger of Poitou.

Is it your opinion that the author of William Peverel misassociated the father and son in regards to the families into which they married?

I recognize that www.rootsweb.com and www.familysearch.org are subject to errors because, like wikipedia, their content is supplied by volunteers and hobbyists (non professionals).

Perhaps you have access to more fact-based information that could clear up this conundrum. Xelaquetzal 02:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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The source is possibly this webpage, which, however, offers nothing stronger than From her surname she may be supposed to have been the daughter of Roger de Poitou. However, this webpage states: She married Lord of Nottingham William Peverel the Elder before 1075 and bore him a daughter Adeliza b. c. 1075, citing J.R. Planché, The Conqueror and His Companions (London, England: Tinsley Brothers, 1874). Assuming that this is reliable, she cannot plausibly have been Roger de Poitou's daughter, as the latter was born around the year 1058, and only married about the year 1083. He could hardly have been a grandfather at age 27. I've removed the dubious assertion of parentage.  --Lambiam 08:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, the Poitou connection is just a random guess. The Complete Peerage is not sure about her parentage. You may consult genealogics.org for details or follow this link to soc.genealogy.medieval. --Ghirla^-трёп- 14:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Welsh border

Articles on villages (and castles) on the Welsh border in north Shropshire and south Flintshire (as it was) refer to William Peveril having lands in that area. Can some one who knows about the subject please add something of this to the article? Peterkingiron (talk) 13:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)